Coffee Break – Green Three Row Nugget Torsade Necklace

Green Three Row Nugget Torsade Necklace I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again: I love a good statement necklace.  This one in particular looks great for those times you want to add a second or even third color to your outfit.  On the safe side it would be nice with a light blue button-front shirt — on the more playful side, though, I might wear it with a purple top or even a yellow springy one.  It’s $398 at Brooks Brothers. Green Three Row Nugget Torsade Necklace

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  1. I didn’t realize how badly I needed a green beaded necklace, especially this lush, saturated green. I shall now be on the hunt for one =).

  2. Littlest Attorney :

    Ohh! Love! But $398 is not in the budget currently. Has anyone seen anything similar at a lower price point, i.e. on etsy ?

    • Diana Barry :

      Ditto!

    • Amen! It’s gorgeous, but I find I hardly ever wear necklaces (earrings and bracelets yes, necklaces no)…and I still want this like whoa!

      • I’m just like you. I have some beautiful necklaces. I actually worked for Tiffany for a while, but I just don’t wear them. I have 4 bracelets on my right wrist. I only take them off at the airport. And I wear earrings, but I almost never wear necklaces.

        • Honey Bear :

          Just wondering, did you get an employee discount at Tiffany??

          • Yup. Back in 2001 I was laid off so I worked in seasonal sales at Tiffany from November to January. I got a 30% discount. 2002 was a very Tiffany Xmas. My brother still carries his Paloma silver credit card clip.

        • Honey Bear :

          That’s awesome! 30% is prety generous.

          • Yup. I got a 1% commission (paid out at the end of the month), too. They also paid more per hour than most other retailers.

            They definitely had a look they were going for with their seasonal sales group. Most of us had been laid off, but we were all educated and we were mostly blond. There was a definite dresscode, too. I was once sent to the back because they said my skirt was too short. I ran out at lunch and bought a new one.

            But, if nothing else, I tie a mean bow. We spent an entire day learning how to tie the bows. By the way, did you know that if your merchandise costs more than $500, it is wrapped in tiffany blue paper and the bow is the only thing that holds it together (no tape)? The only time I ever sold something that needed to be wrapped, I went to the shipping department to have it done.

            It was the hardest job I’ve ever had. But I’m still friends with a bunch of the other seasonals almost 10 years later. And some of the staff still recognize me when I go into the store (the one at Copley in Boston).

        • Honey Bear :

          Ha that’s crazy! (the bow training).

          So did that 30% also apply to the diamonds and not just the silver jewelry? I went there last week with my bf to look at rings and I tried on a 99k ring – wowza!

          • Probably, but my unemployed self couldn’t afford those items, even with the discount. I think the full-time staff have a higher discount. I know they get a 3% commission.

            I did buy some nice crystal for a friend’s wedding gift.

          • And after talking about Tiffany in this detail. I just amused myself by seeing the price inflation in just 10 years. One of my necklaces is now $300. And the keyring, which I don’t carry anymore because it kept breaking, is now $100. It was $50 in the winter of 2001/2002.

        • I loved reading about your job. So you had breakfast, lunch and dinner at Tiffany’s. Although I’m a lifelong New Yorker, I don’t think I’ve ever been inside.

          • I hadn’t thought of it that way, but… yes, I did. They had a small lunchroom behind the store area, although I usually preferred to roam the mall at lunch.

            I haven’t been to the NYC store since college, when I lived in NYC, but you should at least check it out. They actually have very reasonable prices on home goods.

      • Like whoa :

        Are your initials LM? This sounds SOOO much like something a good friend would write! – YM

    • soulfusion :

      right, I wouldn’t pay more than $50-60 for it. Although I do love it, just not at that price.

  3. SF Bay Associate :

    This necklace is gorgeous. I always love BB’s costume jewelry, but it is way, way too expensive.

  4. Very pretty necklace but ridiculously overpriced! You could find something similar on etsy or else (on the alchemy part of etsy) have someone make this for you for maybe $50 max! Another option is to take a 1-hour beading class at any bead store (just to learn how to do the clasp), pick up the beads and supplies, and make an identical necklace for way less.

  5. Advice needed :

    New job! Need to give two weeks’ notice at current job, but I’m going on a long-planned vacation next week. How to handle?

    • I would try to give a full two weeks notice after you return from your vacation. Is it possible to delay your start date a bit?

    • New job too :

      I agree, give 2-week’s notice after you return from vacation. Your new employer will understand. I was recently in a very similar situation, but my boss was out of town when I got an offer. I told my new employer that I’d have to wait a week to give my notice, so I couldn’t start until 3 weeks later. My new boss understood and actually seemed impressed that I would wait an entire week to give notice in person, rather than just emailing or calling.

  6. Ditto everyone – gorgeous but $400 for a beaded necklace? No thanks.

    Where do people buy interesting, professional costume jewelry? That seems like a good topic for one of those Basics pages that Kat’s been creating.

    • Talbots actually has a decent selection and regular sales. I also get a lot at local farmers markets and art fairs.

      • I stalk Ann Taylor, Banana Republic, and Anthropologie and hope that the pieces I like go on sale, or I can scoop them up when they offer a good coupon or flash sale. However, they’re all hit or miss. For example, some of my absolute favorite, interesting, frequently complimented jewelry pieces come from BR, but I can go months without seeing a single piece I’d consider buying. Also, very occasionally some good pieces will end up on Brooks Brothers’ clearance, at which point they’re often affordable. But lately the only stuff on clearance has not been my style.

    • somewherecold :

      I’ve seen some nice things at stores like TJ Maxx and Filene’s Basement.

    • North Shore :

      I’ve gotten quite a few Brooks Brothers necklaces when they end up in clearance. They’ll drop from $400 to less than $100 sometimes.

    • I’m able to visit a Woodbury-type outlet mall at least a few times a year, and I love the jewelry I’ve found at Off 5th (the Saks outlet). Nordstrom Rack would also be a great place, I’m guessing.

      Like Alex, I also get tons of compliments on the jewelry and sunglasses I picked up at Target.

    • If you like pearls (and I LOVE pearls) you can get really interesting jewelry made from freshwater pearls and sterling fittings for the price of decent costume jewelry. I scour etsy and craft fairs for mine, and recently have fallen in love with kojima pearls (don’t want to include link here) – sarah at kojima is currently offering a leather bracelet with freshwater pearls for only $55.
      (No affiliation – just a happy customer)

    • For anyone in New York, the Brooklyn Flea often has amazing, unique and reasonably priced jewelry! I often buy things there for myself and as gifts.

  7. Job applicant :

    Threadjack:

    If I left my last legal job for ethical reasons, how do I explain that in a job interview? Do I avoid the real reason completely and say “I’m looking for new opportunities, greater opportunities for career development, etc.?” I know it is very bad form to speak negatively of a past employer in an interview.

    Any advice appreciated!

    • Honey Bear :

      Do you mind expanding on what the ethical reasons were?

    • Whose Ethics :

      If your ethics were questioned by any authority (eg State Bar), then I think you have an obligation to say something. At the very least, you have an obligation to be honest and forthcoming when answering questions. This WILL come up – think about when you have to be added to your new firm’s malpractice policy.

      If you were questioning the ethics of the firm you left and preferred to leave rather than be involved with them and their ethics, then I think you play the “speak no evil” game.

      • Job applicant :

        I left due to my firm’s unethical behavior… not my own!

        Speak no evil is my plan… it just feels a little dishonest to conjure a reason for my departure that isn’t true.

        • I was once in a similar situation and scared what would happen if it came up in an interview. I didn’t want to address it head-on (“speak no evil” was my game plan too), but on the off chance that an interviewer somehow knew about the unethical behavior of my previous employer I didn’t want to risk him/her thinking I was complicit. The one time it came up in an interview, I think I said something like I left b/c it was time to expand my horizons. The interviewer pushed me on that and, long story short, eventually it came out that he had witnessed first hand (as opposing counsel) the very behavior that led to my quitting. Needless to say, I got an offer. Odds are you won’t be so lucky as to be interviewed by someone who has independent knowledge of what was going on at your old firm. However, don’t take “speak no evil” so far as to speak well of the firm in a way that could end up hurting you.

          This is a tough situation. But you got yourself out of the last tough situation (kudos to you for sticking to your guns and leaving, btw!) and you’ll find a way out of this one too. Good luck!

          • Job applicant :

            I appreciate the support and am happy to hear about someone who successfully made it through a similar situation! Did you have any interviews where you weren’t asked why you left?

    • Don’t raise the ethics issue. A friend’s dad told me that you should always be taking a new job to move toward something, never away from something – it’s more positive, more exciting, and more productive. Plus, the company you are interviewing with wants to know that you want to work for them, rather than just not for your last employer.

    • It is a little unusual to leave a job without a new one lined up, and it’ll be hard to explain why you did so – if you weren’t laid off, it’s obvious to the interviewer that something must have been seriously wrong. You could fudge and say you left for personal/family reasons, which they won’t legally be able to ask about, but that’s 1. kind of a lie, and 2. may make you seem uncommitted to your work. Similarly, just saying the job wasn’t a good fit makes you sound uncommitted and kind of flaky.

      So, I’d be vague but not to vague and say something to the effect of you didn’t see any opportunity for advancement within the structure of your old firm, and you chose to leave and look for a position that would facilitate your career development. It’s still seems a little weird that you left without first finding a new job, but I doubt they’ll push you on it, and at least the answer is technically true.

    • I’m not in law. I left my last job for a multitude of reasons, including a lack of room for professional growth and some unprofessional and unethical practices. In the interview I started off with the lack of professional growth and how excited I would be to work for a company with so much potential. I was then asked point blank if I was experiencing burn out from working for Unethical Company X. I agreed that I was but didn’t go into details, so I agree that speak no evil is a good plan, but don’t get married to it.

  8. LOVE! I shall be on the hunt for a knockoff.

    How do you all store your statement necklaces? I have tackle boxes for my smaller jewelry (one for silver, one for gold) and right now my statement necklaces are just loose in the drawer along with my tackle boxes.

  9. You might even be able to find something at Coldwater Creek that resembles this, for lots less. (Which also reinforces my sense that I wouldn’t call it a “statement necklace” – three-stranders are pretty classic and staid in my book. Not that there’s anything wrong with that, where appropriate.)

  10. Has anyone found anything like this in another color (blue, violet…)? I wear just about everything but green.

  11. With regards to statement necklaces at work, would a multi-strand, clear lucite necklace (like this http://www.etsy.com/listing/49435154/little-queen-necklace) be appropriate under a collared button front shirt ? I work in tech where most are business casual, only managers wear suits on a daily basis. Still, as an early 20s female at her first full-time job, I’m hesitant to dressing ‘too’ fashionable at work.

    • Honey Bear :

      I like that necklace a lot, but I would go with 3 strands tops.

    • I’m in engineering, which is also mostly business casual and I think a necklace under a collared shirt would be just fine.

    • very nice necklace, and I think it would be appropriate under a collared shirt.

    • I think the style is fine, but I’m cautious of wearing anything too sparkly at work because it’s distracting. Since according to the seller “it constantly catches and reflects and refracts light” this might fall into the too-sparkly category.

    • Cute! And thanks for the link to the seller – she also offers a 25% off discount with two or more pieces. I’ve been meaning to dip my toes into more funky necklaces and now I think I will!

  12. Does anyone have suggestions for a dermatologist in nyc?

    • I’ve used Noah Heftler. His office is on E 58th, it’s clean, it’s relatively easy to get appointments, his staff is good, he took my insurance, etc. My only complaint is that he didn’t spend a whole lot of time with me or carefully explain my prescriptions, but then again, I didn’t push too hard. He had me come back in every couple months for a while, where he basically just asked if I needed any refills. I was just in for acne, and while it got better with the combo of rx antibiotics, cleanser, and two creams that he prescribed, it never fully cleared up (though my new Olay device is actually helping!).

    • Dr. Z!

      (Just kidding)

  13. I’m interested in the trend in people saying that this is too expensive. It strikes me as a beautiful necklace and not such a crazy price point for a substantial piece of jewelry of good quality. (I assume it will last years and that if you are willing to spend $400 on it you do so because you know you’ll get a lot of wear out of it over the years.) I figure that anything you buy for $50 on Etsy is going to be a very different level of quality (both the craftsmanship and the quality of the materials). But maybe I’m wrong and a sucker for a brand name :)

    Kat, in the future I would love a post on the different levels of quality in costume jewelry. Why are some pieces worth $100 and some worth $600 if they look the same? Is it just about branding and marketing costs built into the price? How can we tell if it’s worth the money? With clothing there’s all the guidelines about seams, patterns lining up, lining, etc. Help us understand costume jewelry.

    • Honey Bear :

      That’s a great comment. For me, I don’t feel like BB is known for their jewelry, which is why I think this price is too expensive. However, I wouldn’t mind paying that much for a piece of jewelry from david yurman, or tiffany, or ippolita. I do think I’m a sucker for brand name, but I just dont think of brooks brothers as the place to go for jewelry.

      • I have go-to brand names for each item category.
        This is how my brain works and sometimes I have a hard time even entering some stores that I dont trust.
        I know I am falling a bit for marketing tactics but I just feel comfortable paying a premium for a brand that I believe is good at what they do even if that means buying clothes twice per year.

    • Consultant in NoVA :

      Expensive is also relative. I’m sure the readers of this site represent a wide range of incomes.

    • Great idea for a post!

    • It’s overpriced because the clasp isn’t even silver and the beads are dyed quartzite, which is inexpensive. You can look on firemountaingems.com to have a general idea of the price of different kinds of beads. In my experience, jewlery on etsy is not neccessarily low quality at all, especially if you search for items made with gemstones. Etsy sellers often use sterling silver findings (clasps, etc.) which hold up much better than the plated base metal findings often found in stores. I also often find nice, good quality jewelry at places like the novica website, coldwater creek, or banana republic.

    • I have a feeling that at this price that necklace is about 3000% profit for Brooks Brothers. I think someone on here a while ago linked to a WSJ article about how virtually all “designer” sunglasses are made by the same company and just have different names slapped on. This necklace is likely made in the same factory in China as ones costing much less.

      (I onced worked for a major appliance manufacturer where the only things that differed between different “brands” was a few very cosmetic items and the name plate.)

      • cubedweller :

        IA_Eng: please tell us more about the appliances – I’m about to redo my kitchen and really would like to know how to save some bucks on the appliances!

    • I agree with what others have said. Also: I spent about $100 at an auction on my pearls that I wear all.the.time (usually 1-2x/week) and I have some very nice silver jewelry that cost well under $400. This is the type of thing that’s going to come out less frequently – like most “statement” items.

      $400 for any individual purchase is a lot of money. I’ve literally never spent that much on a piece of clothing or decorative item for myself. I had a really hard time deciding to spring for a $500 ipad2 that I use daily as an incredible productivity and entertainment tool. Since there are so many of us posting as “E,” I will also note that I say this as someone with no debt and making ~$200k, and a combined household income of $450k. People are free to do with their money what they will, but if I can forgo a “want” and put away $400 toward my early retirement, that is a tradeoff I will make 99 times out of 100.

  14. The price surprised me on this, too. Not because I think $400 is too much for a necklace, period, but $400 for a necklace that could be worn only with certain outfits (and isn’t made of particularly valuable components, it appears – imitation rhodium plating and dyed green quartzite?) isn’t worth making work with my budget, even though I think it’s attractive and professional, and would like to own it!

    • Agree.

    • Yeah that’s my issue as well. For $400 one would expect something more than dyed quartzite and plated metal. Honestly I feel like I could go to a beading store and make this necklace for around $50 with similar materials, so I see no reason why anyone would pay $400.

    • The great thing about this site is that when Kat posts something way outside my price range, all the great commenters post inexpensive alternatives. I’ve never really looked at etsy before, I am definitely going to explore that site for jewelry. I hate spending a lot of money on costume jewelry.

  15. Bk foette :

    Beautiful!!! Anybody know of any shoes in this color? I have been looking for weeks.

  16. In-House Mouse :

    Etiquette question:

    I just rode up in the elevator with a woman who works in my building, but not at my company. I’ve seen her before, and she is always very well dressed (suit, heels, designer purse, hair and makeup done), and it is obvious she takes pride in looking good. But under the harsh overhead lighting of the elevator, I could clearly see her cleavage and more through her thin black t-shirt.

    I didn’t say anything to her, but now I am curious. Should I have told her that her shirt was sheer? If this was you, would you want a total stranger to tell you this?

    • I’m curious as well. I walked into work the other day behind a woman whose (jersey) dress was a bit sheer, and I’m pretty sure she had no clue.

    • I can’t begin to think how one would phrase such a notification. If she doesn’t know, she will be embarrassed and maybe be a little weirded out that you brought it up. If she does know, it would sound like you were calling her out for being risque.

    • I think I’ve seen this, or a similar discussion, before. And the consensus I took away from it was if the person is a complete stranger, you should only let them know if it was a problem they could fix immediately – like lipstick on the teeth. But it its something they can’t do anything about immediately, then you don’t say anything because that person then feels really self-conscious about it.

      I think it comes down to what you reasonably think the person could do about it in the specific circumstance.

    • another anon :

      That’s a tough one. I don’t know if I would say anything or not, but if it were me that was wearing something see through, I would want to know! But I just can’t think of a way to tell a stranger something like that. The best I can think of would be something along the lines of “I don’t know if you realize, but you might need a slip under that [shirt/dress/whatever].” But I don’t know if I could bring myself to actually say it.

    • No. I would not say anything, and I would not want to be told by a stranger. This is something she can’t do anything about short of going home to change. My rule is to only alert people to wardrobe malfunctions that are easily fixed; otherwise you just make them feel insecure all day.

      If she was a friend or close colleague I’d have told her, but only if I could also help her find a solution (like lending her my shawl or jacket).

    • I would definitely want to know, but I’m not sure how I would go about telling a complete stranger that an element of their outfit was too sheer. Maybe she was planning to put on a jacket once she arrived in her office?

    • I was once riding on the escalator behind a woman whose dress was see-through in the escalator uplighting. Like, I could see EVERYTHING. I was sure that when she went out into the bright light, the dress would continue to be sheer. I felt horribly awkward, but I did tell her. I pulled her a bit to the side on the platform at the top of the escalator and said “There is no easy way to say this, and I apologize for being awkward and forward, but your dress is sheer in the bright light. It’s something I would want to know so I could add a slip next time, so I’m telling you and I hope you aren’t offended.” It was indeed very awkward, but she thanked me, and I like to think that was the right thing to do. (Note: She was my age (late 20s), and I’m not sure I would have felt comfortable if she’d been substantially older or younger.)

      • If it were me, I would want to know, regardless of who told me. (As long as they were as respectful as you, Bridget.)

  17. a question I should probably know the answer to by now :

    Hi Corporettes,

    Is there a standard way of addressing people with two last names that aren’t hyphenated? For example, if someone writes her name out as Mary Jones Smith, do you address her as Ms. Jones Smith or as Ms. Smith? I usually assume that the middle word is the person’s maiden name, but with some names it’s difficult to tell whether it’s a maiden name of just that person’s middle name.

    • I would use Ms. Smith unless there was a hyphen, in which case Ms. Jones-Smith.

    • Hiatus815 :

      Does she always appear as Mary Jones Smith? Or is it ever Mary J. Smith or Mary Smith? I would look around and see if you can find her name mentioned elsewhere.

      I actually have a double last name with no hyphen, so I would want Ms. Jones Smith. I know people assume Jones is a middle name and call me Ms. Smith, so I make sure to always put my middle initial (so Mary K. Jones Smith), which I hope helps make it clear. I also don’t hesitate to (nicely) correct people who call me Ms. Smith (“actually, it’s Jones Smith, two names, no hyphen – confusing, I know!”).

    • I’m a Jones Smith too! People think it’s my maiden name/married name, but it’s not. Had two last names my entire life. I guess I just don’t get too bent out of shape if people call me Ms. Smith because I know it’s confusing, but I do correct them if they use Circe Smith instead of Circe Jones Smith. I had a partner once tell me that I should pick Jones or Smith, and that I could pick either one (how enlightened!) but having two names was too confusing. Then he never referred to me as anything but Circe Smith. Lovely.

      • Me too! My mother left out the hyphen on my birth certificate “on purpose,” even though she has one in her last name. I think she thought it would be easier to drop one of them later if I were so inclined, but I am not. And I have had nearly the identical conversation with a partner, as well–but he at least has continued to use both last names after kicking up a fuss.

      • I think my mom wanted me to use my middle and last name as a double last name… but the concept has always confused me.

        Sometimes it’s a cultural tradition, right?

  18. Need to vent. I posted in the co-worker office habits thread about speakerphone usage. Today on the T a woman made a number of phone calls, all on speakerphone. This was during rush hour. Then because I’d glared at her, she made a point of stopping to yell at ME before she got off the train.

    • Take the red line. The only place people can make calls is at MGH. :)

      • I do take the red line, from South Station to Quincy/Adams and the reverse. And if there’s such a rule, many people on my commute don’t know it. Though, until today, I’d never seen anyone use speakerphone.

      • Running out of cute screen names :

        I think the issue is reception, not so much a rule.

        • Yeah. I realized that afterward. But, man, would I love a rule! So jealous of the commuter rail with its quiet cars!

      • I don’t get reception anywhere from Alewife to MGH, and then after MGH to South, but I’ve seen other people who do and make calls (though never on speaker). I have AT&T, but maybe the people I’ve seen with service have Verizon?

  19. It’s a pretty necklace, but $400 for dyed semi-precious stones and imitation metal is too rich for my blood. I’m taking an introductory jewelry making class in July. I’ll use it as inspiration.

    • Have fun, but be careful: it’s a dangerous road you’re going down. You’ll never be able to look at another jewelry catalog without rolling your eyes at the mark-ups and saying “I could make that!” to the annoyance of your friends and family.

      (:

      • not to mention that buying beads can become a bit of an obsession…

      • I am thinking it would be just a great feeling knowing that you can really do something artsy as in catalogs!
        They don’t offer such classes in my country but you got me thinking into starting some craft of my own too. Several coworkers have been talking about being stylists etc. I will seriously look around for options.

    • Can I be your friend and take the class with you?

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