Tuesday’s TPS Report: Brea Dress

Our daily TPS reports suggest one piece of work-appropriate attire in a range of prices.

Cynthia Steffe Brea DressHmmn: both Zappos and Bloomingdale’s have this Cynthia Steffe dress on nearly identical sales today (was $255, marked to $179.99 at Zappos today and $178.50 at Bloomingdale’s). Zappos has sizes 0 and 2, Bloomie’s has sizes 8 and 10 left. I like the structural details on this dress — the darts, the seams, the defined waist. I particularly like the way the back and the sides are dress (at least on top) are black — I think the effect would be very slimming. Nice. Cynthia Steffe Brea Dress

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  1. Motoko Kusanagi :

    I like this! Sadly, at 33 inches in length, it would be scandalously short on me for the office :(

    • downstream :

      hmm…the model says she’s 5’5″, and the dress looks like it’s an OK length on her.

      Related, her waist size is 26″, which is almost normal-ish for a model (still small but not ridiculous like a 24″ or 25″ waist)

    • Divaliscious11 :

      Agreed. Really cute but too short….

  2. Gorgeous! I have something similar from the gap (with a fuller skirt) and I love the structural details and silhouette.

  3. Dear Mamabear & Brooklyn Esq.,

    You are both fired. Because after yesterday, I now want ALL THE ALEXIS BITTAR.

    For reals.



    • Anon in sf :

      I know. I discovered that brand about 2 years ago, and have slowly been building up my collection, mostly of things from the “Miss Havisham” line — think metallic stone encrusted pieces. I love it, and always get tons of compliments when I wear the pieces.

      • I really want the Miss Havisham horseshoe necklace (link to follow), but a lot of the reviews say that the chain is just too thin for the necklace and that it breaks fast. I have a few other pieces of his but no necklaces. I know if I buy from nordies I’ll be ok, but I really like it and don’t want it to break. Any experience with the necklace?

    • If you want to be poor, you should check out the day about two-three days ago that Kanye and I had a tumblr battle for Hijabeng (Ru) where we helped her shop for bracelets. You can see a lot of it on her tumblr because she reblogged it or we both tagged it with her name.

      • Because my tumblr is a mess, I recommend looking at Kanye’s and TCFKAG’s tumblrs for ALL THE JEWELRIES (with no spaces).

        tcfkag.tumblr. com/tagged/hijabeng

        wailingbeansidhe.tumblr. com/tagged/hijabeng

    • I adore Alexis Bittar. I only wish it went on sale more often. There are three pieces that I am really lusting after right now, but they are pretty expensive. Does anyone other than Nordstrom carry it?

    • Went to 2 Alex Bittar stores in NYC and fell in love. I wanted everything. My SO was enamoured by the giant mountain lion (I think) in the window in the Soho store.

    • Ditto. I’m now dreaming of crystal encrusted pretties.

    • Oh sad, I’m fired. Ah well, at least I’m wearing my (only) Bittar bangle and looking FAB today. ;)

    • Brooklyn, Esq. :

      Sorry, gurl. But isn’t it great? :)

  4. I wonder if the Zappos model’s real name is Mika.

    • Susan (edna_mode_nyc) :

      Was wondering the same thing.

      Would be better if they measured the garment from shoulder to waist for each size. I am a long-waisted person, and suspect that the waistline on this dress would hit too high, causing a Regency-pregnancy look.

  5. My tuchus would never fit this. In court now! Yay!

  6. Love this color.

  7. This time just C :

    After last week’s tell-your-deep-dark-secret thread, I decided to make some changes in my life and have started the change process. Thank you to this awesome community of support.

    • Good for you making healthy changes! Not related to my secret, but I have also decided to make a healthy change – not giving up sugar entirely but dramatically cutting back by eliminating chocolate peanuts. Too much stress in my life has meant carrying the bag of chocolate peanuts to my bedroom when I get home from work. Now I just have to figure out how to always have healthier options in the house.

      • I am really trying to reduce sugar too. I have a fro yo addiction (not to mention an Almond Joy problem. And do we really have to talk about Snickers?). Good luck to ya.

        To C: congratulations!

      • I gave up sweets, candy, and hot chcoolate. I’ve been eating an absurd amount of carrots, they satisfy my need for sweet and crunchy.

        • Wow, switching to carrots is some serious commitment. I switched to apples and fresh ground peanut butter. Maybe carrots one day.

        • The crunchiness makes all the difference! Sometimes I think I snack not because I’m hungry, but just because chomping is a nice bit of stress relief. I used to chew gum for this reason, but always forget to buy more when it runs out.

          • Agree. And having carrots with hummus makes it more of a treat a not a chore! It’s the crunch I’m after too.

        • If you want variety, try banana chips! They are sweet and crunchy and I keep them in my desk with my other emergency food :)

          • I get masala banana chips. They are delicious.

          • Rosie, those sound delicious. Now for a bit of google fu…

          • If you are in the DC area, I highly recommend Patel’s grocery store in Rockville. We also get a large assortment of microwavable meals there for a dollar each. The masala banana chips we like come in a huge bag that is silver on one side and clear on the other and are $4-5–they don’t have that much salt or oil, so they seem fairly healthy.

          • beware – banana chips can secretly be bad for you – they’re usually covered in oil and sugar. very high calorie content.

        • I lost a ton of weight once on carrots and fat free pretzels. Sweet and salty :)

      • I have totally given up refined sugar, and while it was a struggle at first, I’ve totally broken the habit. I feel awesome, and I’ve lost 10 lbs. I really never thought I’d see this number on the scale again, even after (unsuccessfully) doing Weight Watchers.

        • I just started trying this! I have been getting mild headaches off and on, and was thinking that it might be due to sweets. No sugar since yesterday, and so far so good (no headache). Not sure I can keep it up completely, but I am going to work on it slowly!

      • On a related note, today is the bring your kid trick or treating around the office day, and out department put our candy next to the printer. Ughhh I want m&ms….

    • Congratulations! I’m doing the same thing (not related to my secret) but have been trying to make some changes in my life over the last week or so and I’m happy to say it’s starting to make a (slight) difference already!

      This community is amazing for supporting each other :)

    • Susan (edna_mode_nyc) :

      Good on you for making some changes.

      I’ve also been motivated to make some changes (must remember to sign up for MFP), but I’ve finally cut out Trader Joe’s Chocolate Almond Clusters. They were my major weakness and I’d go through 2 containers/week. Way too much sugar.

    • Kontraktor :

      Yay for changes. I am making some too. I am trying to lose about 5lb. Last week I walked a ton. Yesterday my husband and I walked 1.5 mi and I even ran 1.5 mi straight. I didn’t think I could do that. We will walk maybe 2-3 mi. tonight and try running again Wednesday and Friday. We are planning a large dinner on Saturday so I am also planning a looong walk for the morning. We already eat pretty well, but I cut out Chees-its (used to bring a small baggie to work) and am trying to not eat random small things after dinner (like a couple of cookies with tea). I am hoping we/I can keep this up!!

  8. Happy Mole Day!

    (none of my friends celebrate Mole Day so I’m hoping someone around here does).

    • lucy stone :

      I am having flashbacks to Chemistry for Engineers. Happy Mole Day!

    • Thank you so much! I was trying to figure out why something about 10/23 was tugging at my memory – I thought maybe I had forgotten a friend’s birthday – and you made me realize it’s because it’s Mole Day.

      Happy Mole Day!

      • Ok. Now I am curious. What is mole day?

        • It celebrates Avagadro’s Number, which is 6.02 x 10^23. Chemist use it as a measurement of atoms. It’s like Pi Day (3/14).

          • Sigh – explanation incomplete. Avagadro’s number is a mole of “things”. It’s a huge number, which makes it good for measuring atoms, b/c you can get an actual real world weight for a mole of atoms, like a mole of gold, or silver, or what have you.

          • I love that you had to come back and expand on your explanation.

          • To further clarify, there are 6.02 x 10^23 atoms in a mole. So if someone sells you a mole of gold, you are buying 6.02 x 10^23 atoms of gold.

            If you talk in moles rather than in atoms, you can express your numbers more easily because they are smaller, which is helpful for calculations and constants in chemistry. For example, the constant R = .0821 kg-L/mole-K. If you were to express it in moles instead, you would have to divide it by 10^23, which would be a much much much smaller number (.0821 x 10^-23).

          • I got a point of extra credit in chemistry for calling my chem teacher at 6:02 on 10/23. (Calls were invited). He laughed in class because apparently everyone called at 6:02 am, not 6:02 pm…

          • I finished and realized that I hadn’t made the connection between Avagadro and mole :)

          • To futher expand upon Viv – it’s really helpful for all of that stoichiometry (chemical accounting/conversions).

          • Fact: stoichiometry is one of my most favorite words.

          • Related: you can have a mole of anything (not just atoms). To wit, what if you had a mole of moles? http://what-if.xkcd.com/4/

          • I love that we have so many smart women on this blog. I am so *not* a science or math person, my eyes glazed over at 6.02 x 10^23…..but I can definitely appreciate the Mole Day sentiment in theory!

          • @jessBee, wow. That is beautiful.

          • Every. Single. One. of the new “Xkcd What If”s are Brilliant and High-larious. He also often references or ends up talking about nuclear weapons/explosions, which is my day job, so I get irrationally excited about jokes relevant to my job on the internets.

    • Thank you for the reminder!

    • Mole Day! Not as tasty as Pi Day, unfortunately, but still worth celebrating :)

    • That is so wild. I actually remember this was highschool chemistry class.

  9. Atlanta ladies, I tried to send up a meetup planning email last night, but oddly, can’t tell if it worked. If you didn’t get it, please let me know! Or reply here with your preference among the following:

    -Drinks THIS Friday
    -Brunch Saturday
    -Brunch Sunday
    -Drinks NEXT Friday
    -None of these options work for me! I will propose something else in my reply.

  10. Toronto ladies! I sent an email out about a possible meet-up. If you didn’t get it or want to be on the list, email me at toronto [dot] [this site] @ gmail dot com and I’ll add you.

  11. phillygirlruns :

    initial review:

    i bought the suzi chin/maggie london dress that was featured last wednesday, 10/17. based on the reviews, i ordered two sizes – the larger of the two came yesterday.

    quality-wise, the dress is great – the jersey is heavy and very substantial, the neckline is interesting and the dress feels very well-constructed. i was not crazy about the belt – it’s a double-stand skinny belt, which by itself is neat, but feels and looks pretty cheap. the dress looks fine without a belt, though, and i have several i could swap in.

    sizing though? weird. it fits me fine in my lower body, but the top is just…oddly large. it may be a function of the dolman sleeve and more structured fabric, but it feels huge through the shoulders and not in a flattering way. i think the next size down will be too small on my lower body, but we’ll see when it comes.

    i like the dress enough to try it out in petites just to see if that helps. for reference, i’m short (5’3) but not petite, hourglassy at 32DD-28″ w-35″ hips, wear a 4 or 6 in j.crew and ann taylor. i bought a 6 and an 8 and have tried on the 8 so far.


  13. Since this is apparently the Meetup thread ;o)

    SF Meetup
    Sun Nov 4
    Rosamunde, 2832 Mission Street, SF
    Near 24th & Mission BART

    Beer and Sausages and Bad-Ass Chicks! (Vegetarian sausage options available)

    • e_pontellier :

      Meetup thread! NYC this Thursday, 8pm, Grey Dogs on W 16th st btwn 7th/8th aves!

  14. With all the hoopla around inaccurate data on law school employment rates – is there a place to get accuarte data on employment stats on recent grads? I am looking specifically for firm placement for T14 programs.

    • No. Best thing (if you are thinking about law school) is to contact some current 3Ls at those schools and ask what their sense is of hiring for recent grads. It will be anecdotal, but perhaps more accurate than “data” that schools put out.

    • Law School Transparency breaks down the reported numbers into better pictures of how many students are really captured by the data law schools divulge.

    • Chicago is very transparent; they have full data on employment for the past couple of classes on the website.

    • Blonde Lawyer :

      This may be less helpful where you are looking at T14 rather than regional law school/law firms but I suggest picking your market, picking your preferred firm size, and looking at all those firm’s websites, scrolling the bios of the newer attorneys. You will see what schools they have hired from, what activities those students participated in, how many attorneys they hired that year, etc. It can take up to a full day to research all this but it can be really eye opening. When I did this, I realized my preferred market was hiring WAY more local in-state not tier 1 students. The few “big for the area” firms were hiring tier 1 but also hired from my local in-state school. I went with local in-state (cheaper). But, the market I was looking at was VERY unique so absent research showing the same results, I would assume your mileage will vary. You can also use linked in to view other people from your potential school. You will probably only see name and title but you will get a hint if it says xyz, JD versus, xyz, attorney at big firm, or xyz, solo firm. You have to read between the lines but it can give you a more realistic picture than what career services sells you.

    • I don’t think data can keep up with market conditions so I second Viv’s suggestion. Also, talk to recent grads in addition to students as some firms are playing the “let’s wait until after the bar exam to hire them so we don’t have to pay for that” game.

  15. Fey and sudden :

    Also, thanks so much for the pore advice (no pun intended :) I think I’m going with the mint masque someone recommended.
    Do any of you attach expectations to an outfit when you’re searching for it? I’m having a hard time summing up what I mean. Let me try: for example, say you have a big date coming up or a speaking engagement with a networking group. But instead of being rational and saying, oh I’ll wear something I already have that’s nice and appropriate, you create a quest. You say, “I must find a shirt that will make me sexy, but mature, but not overdressed” or “I must find a skirt that is adorable, and slimming and graceful.” You then enter on a shopping rampage, trying on everything, and finding nothing, because you’ve attached so many adjectives to the object.
    I guess not so much of an advice question as a “I wonder if others do this” or suggestions on how to get better at not doing so.

    • So clearly I’m not working this morning since I’m all over this thread but yes, I do this and sometimes it makes it impossible to find something. I try to minimize it by doing two things:

      1) Imagining the image I’m trying to portray at all times (i.e. for work, professional but still feminine and relatively youthful, and I try to enumerate exactly what that means to me… so pencil skirts, silk blouses, colourful blazers etc., or for dates, sexy but not too scandalous, which usually results in something short and tight on the bottom, but relatively conservative on the top). I keep lists of items in my phone at all times, so if I get a hankering to go shopping but don’t really need anything, I’ll try to get something off that list

      2) Sometimes for a big event i.e. date, networking event, I’ll feel better if I have something new so I either try to get a new accessory for my existing clothes OR I’ll look at my closet to try to imagine the kind of outfit I want to wear. Then at least I get an idea of the kind of thing I’m looking for and it makes it easier to envision what I’m looking for when I’m in a store.

      But sometimes, when I’m shopping, I’ll just end up frustrated because I’ve put such ridiculous adjectives on what I’m looking for. I usually go home with nothing and end up pulling an outfit I already have from my closet and it works perfectly. (I should probably take this as a sign to shop less).

    • I used to do this all the time. I now own too many clothes, many unworn with the tags still on. What I do now is treat clothes and shoe shopping like an activity, like going to the museum or the movies. It is deliberate and NOT an emergency. It helps me objectively consider whether I truly like something or not. I would say I don’t buy a single thing 97% of the time.

      • I annoy my friends with my insistence on only buying if I really love an item. I can come away from a full day of shopping with nothing, which is fine by me, as the hunt is most of the experience anyway.

        I once heard the advice that you should never buy a new outfit to get your picture taken in (like, professional photography setting) because you might not notice if the fit is off until it’s too late. I’ve adopted this mentality for most occasions after too many events where I bought a new dress, only to find myself readjusting it the whole time. Having a smaller closet of well fitting pieces ensures I know whatever I put on will look nice, and then stretches me to creatively style what I have so I don’t end up pairing the same items together every time I wear them.

        • I like going shopping by myself WAY MORE than going with friends or family. Some people or too slow or too fast or too tired or too hungry or blah blah blahhhhhhhhhhhhh. Shopping is me time.

          • Agreed. I like shopping at my own speed. If I do go shopping with friends/family, it is mostly of the, “let’s split up and we’ll meet back here for lunch” variety.

          • I agree completely! I take occasional shopping trips to Baton Rouge and the outlet mall that is on the way but when I take someone else it becomes this grueling day. I get in and out of stores pretty quickly and walk away if I’m not interested. But I have sat for hours while my friends tried on clothes. And I come home late and exhausted.

          • This is my BFF on a shopping trip:

            I like this. Do you like it? Yes? I don’t know. I think it makes me look hippy. I’m not going to get it. Would you mind if we went back to that first store? I want to try that on again. Do you like it? I like it. You do like it? Yes? I think I should get it, right? I’m getting it.

            I was going to wear that thing today but when I put it on I hated it. It is awful. Why did you let me buy it? We should go back to that fourth store and try on that one. Can you go after work?

      • Susan (edna_mode_nyc) :

        I have the same problem with too many clothes (many still with tags on them.)

        At this point, I’m more than happy to be a shopping chaperone to friends– I’ll hold (hand)bags, take photos if my friend wants to (so she can decide which looks better later on), find errant salespeople, or go find the sizes myself if there’s nobody working on the floor that I can see.

        I’ve done this for a dear friend’s out-of-town relative who has relocated to NYC and wanted to update her wardrobe from sporty-Floridian to soignee, sophisticated NYC corporate. We hit 12 stores and joked that if this were a movie this would be her fashion transformation montage sequence, like the one in “The Devil Wears Prada.” :-)

        • SHOPPING CHAPERONE. This is what I am. All the satisfaction of hunting down stuff without buying it.

    • Kontraktor :

      I don’t know if I create a quest per se, but I definitely find myself thinking I would like something new more often than I should. I mean, yes there are occasions where perhaps I don’t really already have something. But most of the time, I make the event out to be something more special than it is and say, ‘Oh well I need a new suit/blouse/whatever’ for that. I then look around a lot and don’t find anything that is that affordable, and then I remind myself that I probably have something already I can pick from…

    • Maddie Ross :

      Yup. And spend too much money on the quest. And end up with several items that are fine, but just seriously not me. Oh, and even better is when in the end I wear something I already had in my closet.

    • I think one way to avoid this is to not shop for event-specific outfits (wedding dresses and similar excepted).

      If I am shopping for item A (office suits) and I come across item B (dinner dress), for which I am not shopping, I try to be open to item B. If item B is otherwise appropriate (price, color, fabric, fit, goes with things I already own), then I will buy it even though: (1) it is not what I was looking for, and (2) I may have no immediate need for it (i.e., I have no dinner date coming up but I do in general have dinner dates in my life). Then the next time I need a dinner dress, I have it.

      This is admittedly not a perfect system.

    • Yes. I don’t think of it as a shopping emergency though – it’s those pesky expectations. My flying into a tear about outfits usually means I’m nervous/etc./[insert feeling] about that event in question and trying to distract myself. If I can get to the bottom of THAT, I usually find an outfit is either in my closet or a far less loaded purchase.

    • I do this. Well, something similar. I create an item in my head, i.e., a black sweater with X sleeves, X neckline, and X material and then get mad when I can’t find it. This drives my husband absolutely CRAZY.

    • For me, it’s less about having unrealistic expectations and more about pretending that clothes will make me something that I’m not, or will make something happen that I want to happen. When I had a food service job when I was in school, I had the hardest time not buying completely impractical clothes. I didn’t want to be working at a restaurant, I wanted to be working in an office. So I absolutely pined over “office clothes.” Sometimes I bought them even though I couldn’t wear them. In the winter, when I’m just SO TIRED of winter, I pine over, and sometimes buy swimsuits even though I hardly ever go swimming, even in the summer. I’ve really tried to nip this insanity in the bud, but sometimes when I’m unhappy with something in my life, it pops back up.

      That said, I’ve always dreamed of having a dress that would make me look like Jessica Rabbit (how ’bout those expectations!!). I have a very hourglassy figure, and have never really felt comfortable showing it off. Maybe someday.

      • Yep, that’s what I’m trying to keep in mind – buy clothes for the life I have, not the life I want. On the other hand, sometimes it’s useful to think about what the clothes I am drawn to say about the life I want, and see if I can change things. Although that usually does not mean starting with buying out the Boden catalog.

    • I do that every time I’m a guest at a wedding. For some reason, I have a really hard time wearing “work clothes” to a wedding. I’m working on it.

      I think I heard about this book here, but Shop Your Closet by Melanie Charlton Fascitelli was an excellent read for me. The chapter she does on fashion made me realize that I’m drawn to classic looks and I need to quit trying to make trendy clothes work on me because then I’m uncomfortable and adjusting them constantly. It’s a great read and has me super pumped to clean out my closet.

  16. Does anyone have any experience with shoes from the Spanish Balearic islands? I am thinking of Avarca Pons sandals (link to follow) for wearing with casual dresses/skirts and pants around town or while traveling during the summer. Curious to hear any reviews.


  17. applesandcheddar :

    How was the DC meetup? I’m really bummed I missed it, but I was out of town. Hoping there is another one soon!

    • I may be biased, but I thought it was great! Hope you can make it next time.

      • Jenny, I emailed the DC corpor— yahoo address and offered to organize the next one – not sure if you are still checking that address.

        • Thanks! I haven’t checked in a couple of days, but I will do so and get back to you.

  18. Interview logistics help! :

    I have an interview tomorrow that I am super excited about- yay!

    It is a firm job, located four floors down (same building, same lobby) from my current firm job. I’m having a lot of anxiety w/r/t the need to check in at the front desk in the lobby and have security walk me to the elevator with a key card for the interview-firm’s floor. And the leaving of the interview, where I may well enter from the interview-firm’s floor into an elevator with people from my current firm. It’s a 12 story building that my firm occupies half of, so it seems realistic or even likely that I may run into somebody.

    Any thoughts on how to handle this?

    • After the interview, can you take the stairs?

    • I would definitely wear a disguise.

      • Scratch my suggestion. Go with the disguise. And a foreign accent.

        • momentsofabsurdity :

          Find an interview buddy and synchronize your watches. Switch briefcases and wigs with one another in the elevator. Subterfuge is key.

          • Susan (edna_mode_nyc) :

            Hire a team of lookalikes with the same briefcase as you. Think Thomas Crown Affair (starring Pierce Brosnan and the incomparable Rene Russo.) :-)

    • And the reason I suggest stairs is because I would imagine it would greatly reduce the likelihood of running into someone.

    • At least in the town that I work in attorneys from different firms end up meeting to talk about cases, to collaborate on pro bono or bar activities or for any number of other reasons. I would not think it odd to see one of my collegues headed into any of the other firms in town.

      • this. And if anyone asks when you get into the elevator, just say “oh, a meeting.” then quickly deflect: how was lunch? or, what are you doing for lunch? , etc. you could have been meeting a friend who works there, could be anything. Good luck with your interview!!

    • lucy stone :

      Is it plausible that you would be meeting with an attorney from that firm for work? Or do you have a classmate that works there that you could say you stopped in to say hello to?

    • You should be able to address this with your contact person at the firm you are interviewing with. Simply call/email and remind them that you submitted your application in confidence, and given that your current firm shares a building with them, would there be some way that you could handle the logistics to minimize the chances of an awkward encounter with your current colleagues.

      • Mountain Girl :

        This is an excellent idea. The disguise is more fun but this would probably be the approach I would take.

    • AnotherLadyLawyer :

      Same elevator bank? If your key card will work, I’d go with that. We have a other firms in our building and if you were in the same elevator bank, you could go to any floor, but couldn’t get into the floor… So you could try that? Aside from that, maybe you could call the receptionist or the recruiting person from the other firm and explain and ask if there is some way they can get you to their floor without going through security (maybe you can pick up a key card early or just have them leave all necessary cards with the security desk with a note). As for leaving the interview, I have to be honest, I would be a bit terrified of the same thing and would probably try to figure out a way to take the stairs (can you do that? even if you have to walk all the way to the bottom of the building?). Sorry for all the stress, but congrats on the interview!!!

    • I don’t have any bright ideas for going in, but as for coming out and getting on the elevator with people you know: if they ask, just say you were visiting a friend who just started working there (or dropping off something related to a volunteer gig, or some other story). My experience is that as long as you don’t act as though anything’s out of the ordinary, they’ll do/think the same.

    • Blonde Lawyer :

      re-delivering a package that was wrongly sent to your office? Also, could you just call the person who scheduled the interview with your concerns? They know you work upstairs. Maybe instead of “checking in” the scheduler can be waiting for you in the lobby and take you directly to a conference room to wait.

      A while back, I went to therapy at the same place as several of my clients. The office housed multiple therapists so there was a good likelihood of running into a client in the waiting room. I told my therapist my concern and she worked out with reception that I could walk in, waive to reception (who knew to expect me) and proceed directly back to the staff kitchen and wait there until my appointment. They kept my credit card on file for my co-pays and I would call when I got home to schedule my next appointment instead of doing it at the window on the way out. If someone saw me, it looked like I was there for business, not an appointment.

    • Interview logistics help! :

      Thanks everyone!

      I had written a longer response but got the posting too fast error. In sum, thanks for the great ideas and I think I will contact recruiting.

  19. Almost There :

    The Halogen plaid suit at Nordie’s from a few weeks ago that I have been stalking has finally gone on sale! YAY!


    • Almost, you are the bestest in the whole world! I completely forgot about that suit, but I am desperately in need of a full suit that fits me, and the Taylor pants are the only pants that fit me (after a trip to the tailor). I am buying this right now. Thank you so much for the heads up!!

      • Almost There :

        Glad someone else is excited! I haven’t tried on the Taylor pants – can I ask what body type you have?

        • I am SO. Excited. ;o) I am the pearest of the pear. My widest point is the top of my thighs (i hate the term s-bags ;oP) and I HATE trying on work pants, they all look horrible on me. But the cut of the Taylor pants and the super wide waistband are awesome. I go a size up basically so they fit my thighs/hips, and then my amazing tailor takes in the waist band at the back so it smoothly goes over my b*tt and then the waistband ends up sitting comfortably on my low waist, w/ no muffin tops, etc.

          I have the taylor pants in multiple colors, but have been unable to buy a full suit (pants & skirt) from any other place, because i just cannot wear the pants. So, this is totally making me ridiculously happy right now. ;o)

          Ok, there is my pre-coffee novel about pants and my hips ;o) Thanks again!!

        • ALSO: just bought a full suit: Jacket, Skirt & Pants for under $200. Frugal/broke ‘r e t t e s take note. ;o)

        • That’s my shape too, and I can highly recommend the Taylor denim trousers.

    • Former MidLevel :

      I have been stalking this, too! Thanks for the heads-up.

  20. Almost There :

    Ok… one more question about that darn green shirt from last week –

    Do we think it is ok to wear said green shirt to a conference/career fair, with charcoal gray suit? I will be attending as job seeker, handing out resumes.

    • Kontraktor :

      I think it’s fine, but as you remember, some commenters insisted that a blue button down/something a little more stuffy would be better. So, you’re going to get a range of a opinions and it ultimately comes down to what you are comfortable with and what you want ot convey. Honestly, I feel in the hustle/bustle of a career fair, nobody is going to notice your shirt. Those reps are seeing so many people that what you wear probably won’t make much difference. I think if wearing a green shirt will help you feel more confident and more like yourself, wear it. If wearing a more stuffy/conservative choice won’t feel like you, assuming you want to put the most ‘you’ foot forward, don’t wear that. I feel we stress a bit too much about what to wear to interviews/events/etc. There are some general parameters to adhere to, so stick to those and you’ll be fine. I have gotten jobs and not gotten jobs and everything in between wearing a huge variety of outfits, so honestly I feel clothing decisions (like black dress vs. gray dress vs. gasp purple dress or something) are arbitrary. If somebody isn’t going to hire you because you wore a red top or something, they probably would have found some other pithy thing to reject you on anyway.

      • Almost There :

        Thanks for such a detailed answer. I just read all these materials (career office, law-job interview books, etc.) saying black-suit-white-button-down-pearls-2-in-heels that it makes me nervous. But wearing a button down shirt with my suit makes me feel very uncomfortable and way too stuffy (plus I think it makes me look chunky). It is just a little hard to trust myself when I haven’t done this very much, but think you’re right – if they don’t want green-shirt-wearing-me, I might not want them either.

        • Kontraktor :

          I think you will be fine. Your suit sounds really conservative, and the green top is as well- it’s just a bright color! But it has a high neckline, sleeves if you take your jacket off, etc. And you can pair with a more simple or conservative necklace. You will look great.

          Not like an anecdote of n=1 means anything, but I wore a bright pink dress to a final round interview and got the job. For another job, I had to do about 10 interviews (not kidding), and I wore a variety of suits, separates, and even just plain old skirts and blouses (gasp) and I was offered there too. Then again, I have not gotten offers when wearing a more traditional black suit/blouse. So… I truly feel it is arbitrary and the very specific details of clothing matter a lot less than we’d like to think.

          I’ve said a lot too on this site that I believe in the whole person concept when it comes to dressing. People can tell when somebody walks in and is well put together, green shirt or not. You put together a really sharp outfit where everything coordinates/is good quality/fits you well, and people will say… wow, how put together and refined she is, and not so much.. look at that ugly green shirt. At least that is what I believe.

        • I was one of the “wear a stuffy outfit” people and I say green top for career fair is 100% okay.

        • I refuse to wear a button down with my suit. I look stupid. Secret is sleeveless buttondowns!

          I”ve only had a few situations where I NEEDED the buttondown look. And that’s how I pulled it off.

    • Koktraktor is 100% right. And I vote wear the green shirt.