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		<title>Ten Things About&#8230; Getting Great Deals on Clothes</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 17:10:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#8217;s our confession/boast: almost everything we own was bought on sale. Our favorite Iisli sweater jacket? Tried it on at Bergdorf&#8217;s when it cost $430, snapped it up at a winter sale a few months later for $150; then loved it so much that we bought another one on HauteLook [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p><a href="http://redirectingat.com?id=4505X645619&xs=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fthurm%2F2111952075%2F&sref=rss" target="_blank"><img class="alignleft" style="border: 0pt none; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 10px;" src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2310/2111952075_416158ba16.jpg" alt="" width="180" height="129" /></a>Here&#8217;s our confession/boast:  almost everything we own was bought on sale.  Our favorite Iisli sweater jacket?  Tried it on at Bergdorf&#8217;s when it cost $430, snapped it up at a winter sale a few months later for $150; then loved it so much that we bought another one on HauteLook for $125.  We&#8217;ve gotten pants from Banana Republic for $6.99 and worn them a lot.  We once snagged an entire ball gown at an outlet store for $20 and wore it to our firm&#8217;s black-tie gala.  Alas, most of these amazing takes came from the days when we shopped the stores really regularly &#8212; since then, we&#8217;ve had to adjust our shopping habits for a life where a) we&#8217;re usually, you know, working when the stores are open and b) it&#8217;s harder to set aside time on the weekend to shop.  (<em>Pictured:  &#8220;<a href="http://redirectingat.com?id=4505X645619&xs=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fthurm%2F2111952075%2F&sref=rss" target="_blank">Closing Down&#8221; Sale 2</a>, originally uploaded to Flickr by <a href="http://redirectingat.com?id=4505X645619&xs=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fthurm%2F&sref=rss" target="_blank">johnthurm</a>.)</em></p>
<p>(A caveat before we start our tips &#8212; in our  minds there is a difference from buying good clothing at reduced prices, and buying cheap clothing.   Personally, we have <a href="http://redirectingat.com?id=4505X645619&xs=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fiacc.org%2Fresources%2FIACC_WhitePaper.pdf&sref=rss" target="_blank">serious</a> <a href="http://redirectingat.com?id=4505X645619&xs=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.counterfeitchic.com%2FArticles%2Fbazaar_ctrfeitrs.pdf&sref=rss" target="_blank">ethical</a> issues with shopping at stores that specialize in knock-offs.  (Hat tip to <a href="http://redirectingat.com?id=4505X645619&xs=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fbit.ly%2F2Qvfzj&sref=rss" target="_blank">Counterfeit Chic</a>, who covers the issue regularly.))</p>
<p>1.  <strong>The next time you&#8217;re actually out and about shopping, do a little legwork</strong> &#8212; learn your size in the brands you ogle online.  Are you a 7 or 7.5 in Cole Haan pumps?  Are you a size 8 or 10 in Tory Burch?  If you figure this out it&#8217;ll be much easier to snap up sales when you see them, whether they&#8217;re at online discounters like RueLaLa or department stores.</p>
<p>2.  <strong>Use online tools</strong> to help keep you aware of discounts.  We try to point you to a big sale if we see one, but a lot of the best deals (60% off) fall in the &#8220;lucky sizes&#8221; realm, when very limited sizes are left.  Particularly if you fall on either end of the &#8220;regular&#8221; clothing spectrum &#8212; an XS, a size 14 &#8212; then you should set up sale alerts because there are tons of great tools.  We love <a href="http://corporette.com/2008/07/29/tool-of-the-trade-shopittome/" target="_blank">ShopItToMe</a>, and we&#8217;ve heard good things about <a href="http://redirectingat.com?id=4505X645619&xs=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.savvycircle.com%2Fpage.php%3Fpage%3Dhome%26amp%3Btest%3Db&sref=rss" target="_blank">Savvy Circle</a> as well.  <a href="http://corporette.com/2008/12/08/tool-of-the-trade-shopstyle/" target="_blank">ShopStyle</a> can also be handy if you&#8217;re watching a particular brand of bags or shoes.</p>
<p>3.  <strong>Don&#8217;t pay for shipping</strong> more than you have to.  When we shop online, we haaate paying for shipping &#8212; it&#8217;s our number one pet peeve.  If there&#8217;s a minimum for free shipping ($75 or $200 are frequent numbers) then we will almost always try to fill our carts with at least that amount.  Bloomingdales had great sales recently and, the bag we wanted &#8212; a Treesje bag marked from $600ish to $180ish &#8212; would not have gotten us free shipping.  So we also bought a pair of Ralph Lauren shorts marked to $8 (we never wear shorts, but we always pack them on vacations, so the price worked well) and a Kooba bag (also marked to the $190 realm) that we were curious about.  We wound up returning the Kooba bag, but the Treesje bag and shorts were great deals, and we still got the free shipping.</p>
<p>4. <strong>Look for coupons</strong> before you checkout.  We almost always check <a href="http://corporette.com/2008/08/21/tool-of-the-trade-retail-me-not/" target="_blank">RetailMeNot</a> before purchasing anything online; we also get a lot of e-mails directly from stores, which frequently come with coupon codes.</p>
<p>5. <strong>Shop off season. </strong> That Treesje bag we mentioned?  White patent leather &#8212; it arrived the weekend after Labor Day, meaning we won&#8217;t get to wear it for nearly a year.  That&#8217;s ok, though &#8212; when Memorial Day rolls around we&#8217;ll be salivating for it.</p>
<p>6.  <strong>Know the returns policy. </strong>Particularly if you&#8217;re filling your shopping cart in order to get free shipping, you need to  be sure you know how long you have to return items.  Some stores are very friendly &#8212; for example, we bought a ton of white dresses from Nordstrom&#8217;s, on sale, when we got engaged &#8212; different sizes, different brands, etc. &#8212; probably spending about $400 on four or five dresses.  Nine months later, when it was time to get dressed for the rehearsal dinner, we tried on the dresses and wore the one that fit the best; we returned the rest without hassle. (Just to clarify &#8212; we don&#8217;t recommend you stretch it out to 9 months on a regular basis.  Rather, just know the returns policy so you aren&#8217;t surprised if it&#8217;s a 30-day policy and you thought you had 60 days.)</p>
<p>7.  <strong>Be flexible on the sizes. </strong>While in #1 we advise you to know your size, we also advise you to be a bit flexible on size when you&#8217;re ordering online.  A lot of great sales happen on clothes that have the wrong tag.  So if you see a size 8 and you&#8217;re a size 6, if the deal is right (and returns won&#8217;t be a hassle), give it a try.  (We would not necessarily advise this for shoes, though.)</p>
<p>8. <strong>Know what you wear regularly. </strong>Our weekend uniform tends to be black t-shirts and jeans, so we frequently check around for black t-shirts on the site that look worthwhile to us.</p>
<p>9. <strong>Consider buying multiples. </strong>If you see a deal on something that you already know and love, consider buying multiples, either in the same color or a different one.  We already mentioned our Iisli sweater, but we&#8217;ve done this a number of times &#8212; jeans, shoes, t-shirts, even bags.</p>
<p>10.  <strong>Understand that some things just don&#8217;t go on sale</strong>, while others might be able to be negotiated if you&#8217;re buying in person.  For example, we&#8217;ve never seen a classic Louis Vuitton bag on sale, and proudly bought ours at the store for full price.  On the other hand, they say that jewelry can be negotiated &#8212; for example, if you&#8217;re buying a good watch (Cartier, Rolex, etc.) from a reputable store it&#8217;s not uncommon for the sales person to give you a 15% discount.</p>
<p><strong>Readers, what are your best tips for getting steals online?  Any victory stories you&#8217;d like to share? </strong>Also:  if you like this story, please consider &#8220;Digging&#8221; it:  	<a href="http://redirectingat.com?id=4505X645619&xs=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fdigg.com%2F&sref=rss"><img src="http://digg.com/img/badges/100x20-digg-button.gif" alt="Digg!" width="100" height="20" /><br />
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		<title>Weekly Round-up</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 19:04:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Liking these posts? Follow Corporette on Twitter — this is the edited version of what we’re reading! (We also Tweet if we hear about a good sale.) - The NYT proclaims the return of the interview suit.  (To which we ask: did it ever really go away?) [NYT] (We&#8217;ve attached [...]]]></description>
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<p><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-1997" style="border: 0pt none; margin-left: 10px; margin-right: 10px;" title="christina-applegate" src="http://corporette.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/christina-applegate-264x300.jpg" alt="" width="211" height="240" />- The NYT proclaims the return of the interview suit.  (To which we ask: did it ever really go away?) [<a href="http://redirectingat.com?id=4505X645619&xs=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2F2008%2F11%2F13%2Ffashion%2F13INTERVIEW.html%3F_r%3D2%26amp%3Bref%3Dtodayspaper%26amp%3Boref%3Dslogin%26amp%3Boref%3Dslogin&sref=rss" target="_blank">NYT</a>] (We&#8217;ve attached one of our favorite interview suits of all time, the suit Christina Applegate wore in the movie, <a href="http://redirectingat.com?id=4505X645619&xs=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.imdb.com%2Ftitle%2Ftt0101757%2F&sref=rss" target="_blank">Don&#8217;t Tell Mom the Babysitter&#8217;s Dead</a>. Alas, we cannot find the scene where she rips apart her mother&#8217;s closet to find a suit (her character is 17 pretending to be 29), but we&#8217;ve posted a video below that might bring back some memories.)</p>
<p>- Some young workers are rebelling against traditional corporate attire and attempting to &#8220;express their inner soul&#8221; through their clothes (rather than their willingness to tow the line).  [<a href="http://redirectingat.com?id=4505X645619&xs=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.com%2Farticle%2FSB122654186690223299.html%3Fmod%3DdjemPJ&sref=rss" target="_blank">WSJ</a>]</p>
<p>- The Annual &#8220;Women to Watch&#8221; issue just came out from the Wall Street Journal, and the WSJ Law Blog offers their thoughts as well. [<a href="http://redirectingat.com?id=4505X645619&xs=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.com%2Farticle%2FSB122609301920009441.html&sref=rss" target="_blank">WSJ</a> via <a href="http://redirectingat.com?id=4505X645619&xs=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fblogs.wsj.com%2Flaw%2F2008%2F11%2F10%2Flaw-blog-lawyers-of-the-day-nicole-seligman-and-marcia-goldstein%2F&sref=rss" target="_blank">WSJ Law Blog</a>]</p>
<p>- Five easily drinkable wines for under $12 &#8212; for Thanksgiving or, you know, Thursday.  [<a href="http://redirectingat.com?id=4505X645619&xs=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thesimpledollar.com%2F2006%2F12%2F22%2Ffive-easily-available-wines-under-12-for-your-holiday-table%2F&sref=rss" target="_blank">The Simple Dollar</a>]</p>
<p>- Forbes offers its advice on ways to dine well during the downturn. [<a href="http://redirectingat.com?id=4505X645619&xs=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.forbes.com%2F2008%2F10%2F27%2Fdining-savings-downturn-forbeslife-cx_rr_1027food.html%3Fpartner%3Dalerts&sref=rss" target="_blank">Forbes</a>]</p>
<p>- Finally: new(ish) blog Sweet Hot Justice offers advice on when you have to donate to your client&#8217;s charity.  [<a href="http://redirectingat.com?id=4505X645619&xs=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sweethotjustice.com%2F2008%2F11%2F12%2Fdonate-to-a-clients-charity%2F&sref=rss" target="_blank">Sweet Hot Justice</a>]</p>
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		<title>Ten Things About&#8230; Dressing Professionally if You&#8217;re Busty</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 20:53:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-1874" style="border: 0pt none; margin-left: 10px; margin-right: 10px;" title="joan-h" src="http://corporette.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/joan-h-199x300.jpg" alt="" width="199" height="300" />A lot of times for our TPS reports, people will note that they couldn't get away with that, as they're too well-endowed to wear a certain dress.  It's one of the sad facts of clothes that most "professional" outfits seem to be intended for women shaped more like Jackie rather than Marilyn (or Betty rather than Joan, in today's parlance).  But well-endowed women have to dress professionally also!  Below, some tips... <strong>Please chime in and let us know if you have any others.</strong>

1. <strong>Know your bra size. </strong>If the girls are multiplying throughout the day (and your bra is giving you the dreaded quadra-boob effect) then your cup size is too small.  Alternatively, if your straps are digging into your shoulders, your band size is probably too big.  Take our advice -- go and get fitted at a reputable place like Nordstrom's.  (The absolute best place to get fitted, in our experience?  Department stores in London --  they have the best range of sizes and the most knowledgeable fitters.)  You may find that you're a 30F instead of a 34D.

<a href="http://click.linksynergy.com/fs-bin/click?id=j3wYAlndgaI&#38;offerid=21855.2893192&#38;type=2&#38;subid=0"><img class="alignright" style="border: 0pt none; margin-left: 10px; margin-right: 10px;" src="http://content.nordstrom.com/imagegallery/store/product/large/8/_5530168.jpg" border="0" alt="" width="147" height="225" /></a><img src="http://ad.linksynergy.com/fs-bin/show?id=j3wYAlndgaI&#38;bids=21855.2893192&#38;type=2&#38;subid=0" border="0" alt="" width="1" height="1" />2. <strong>Wear appropriate bras for work.</strong> You may think that a lacy balconette is fine to wear beneath your suits -- after all, your boss doesn't see it.  (Or so we hope.)  But your goal with underpinnings should be to minimize distractions -- a balconette bra might let things bounce around while you're rushing down the hall to your next meeting (not a terribly pretty -- or professional -- sight), or the lace pattern might show through your otherwise tasteful shirt.  Aim for seamless bras wherever possible, with full coverage.  Again, make sure that your bra fits and isn't creating quadra- or sexta-boobage.  Some favorites include <a href="http://click.linksynergy.com/fs-bin/click?id=j3wYAlndgaI&#38;offerid=21855.2893192&#38;type=2&#38;subid=0">Fantasie '4510' Smoothing Underwire T-Shirt Bra</a><img src="http://ad.linksynergy.com/fs-bin/show?id=j3wYAlndgaI&#38;bids=21855.2893192&#38;type=2&#38;subid=0" border="0" alt="" width="1" height="1" /> (pictured) and <a href="http://click.linksynergy.com/fs-bin/click?id=j3wYAlndgaI&#38;offerid=21855.2815323&#38;type=2&#38;subid=0">Le Mystere 'Dream Tisha 9955' Underwire T-Shirt Bra</a><img src="http://ad.linksynergy.com/fs-bin/show?id=j3wYAlndgaI&#38;bids=21855.2815323&#38;type=2&#38;subid=0" border="0" alt="" width="1" height="1" />.

3. <strong>Minimize if you still feel uncomfortable.</strong> If you're wearing the right size and an appropriately modest bra for work, and you're still feeling too busty, you may want to look into a minimizer.  Our $.02: in our experience these are uncomfortable for the day where it's going to be a long haul, and your breasts tend to look less natural.  But it may make you feel better, sartorially speaking.

4. <strong>Know your neckline</strong>.  The Jackies and Betties of the world can wear the crew necks and the mock turtlenecks -- those styles really are not flattering on the Marilyns and the Jackies of the world.  If you fall into the latter camp, you still have a wide selection -- v-necks, scoopnecks, boat necks, cowl necks, and -- if accesorized correctly -- turtlenecks.  (A button-down shirt, open at the collar,  creates the effect of a v-neck.)  Most of these look great beneath suits (the exception being the boatneck, which looks better on its own).

<a href="http://www.tkqlhce.com/click-3039637-10420955?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.oldnavy.com%2Fbrowse%2Fproduct.do%3Fpid%3D507590502%26tid%3DONAF86%26ap%3D2%26siteID%3D%25zp&#38;cjsku=507590502" target="_blank"><img class="alignleft" style="border: 0pt none; margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 5px;" src="http://www.oldnavy.com/Asset_Archive/ONWeb/Assets/Product/507/507590/main/on507590-50p01v01.jpg" border="0" alt="Women: Women's Basic Camis - Punk Pink" width="140" height="187" /></a>

<img src="http://www.tqlkg.com/image-3039637-10420955" border="0" alt="" width="1" height="1" />5.  <strong>Raise the eyeline in artificial ways. </strong>If you're well-endowed and trying to be professional, the <em>last </em>thing you want is to draw anyone's eye to your cleavage.  If you're wearing a v-neck that dips a bit low for work, <strong>first add a camisole. </strong>Go for something plain -- not lacy -- that will raise the neckline and cling to your chest (and not gape open).  Ann Taylor Loft makes some good ones; we're also fans of Old Navy's simple cotton camisoles (pictured and linked).  (Another tip:  never wear a nude camisole -- you don't want people wondering if that's your skin or a camisole they're seeing.  Go for white or black if you don't have one that matches or compliments your top.)  <strong>You can also use accessories to draw the eye upwards</strong> -- a pair of pearls that stops below your clavicle tends to draw the eyes there; a brooch placed on your shoulder also tends to draw the eye there.  Avoid pendants or long necklaces that hit you at your bust's widest point.

6. <strong>If you're busty, you may find that you prefer tops that have no buttons </strong>-- t-shirts and sweaters don't gape open, after all.  If you find that sweaters hug your curves a bit too much, try for a silky camisole beneath them -- it makes everything lay better.  (A cotton camisole will just stick to the sweater.)

7.  <strong>When buying things, buy them to fit your bust. </strong>If a button-down blouse is gaping in your chest, it's never going to look right -- just buy the next size (or two) bigger and then get it tailored.  Similarly, with dresses -- if the girls are smooshed then the dress will never fit properly.  (You can try it with a minimizer, but trust us -- just get the next size bigger.)  Some brands that are forgiving in the bust include <a href="http://www.rebeccaanddrew.com/" target="_blank">Rebecca &#38; Drew</a> (which has button-down shirts sized by bra sizes); Shoshanna dresses, David Meister dresses, Tahari, and Ann Taylor.

8.  <strong>Know your proportions. </strong>If your figure is an hourglass, do your best to work within that shape -- even if you long to wear A-line skirts, a pencil skirt may be more flattering.  Similarly, if you're more of an inverted triangle -- large on top with slender hips (or not much of a waist) you may want to try to wear an A-line skirt, to balance the top.  You may find that wearing outfits of entirely one color are more flattering.  Many, many articles have been written about this -- you may want to check out <a href="http://tlc.discovery.com/fansites/whatnottowear/fashion_tips/index.html" target="_blank">What Not to Wear's Fashion Tips for the Hard to Fit</a>, or Happygrrls' quiz, <a href="http://www.happygrrls.com/fashion/howtodressforbodytype.html" target="_blank">What Body Type Are You?</a> We're also partial to Jezebel's Sadie's tips on finding your personal style by <a href="http://jezebel.com/5025861/practical-tips-for-personal-style-or-why-not-to-listen-to-womens-magazines" target="_blank">finding an era in which your body type was in vogue. </a>

<a href="http://click.linksynergy.com/fs-bin/click?id=j3wYAlndgaI&#38;offerid=21855.2988354&#38;type=2&#38;subid=0"><img class="alignright" style="border: 0pt none;" src="http://content.nordstrom.com/imagegallery/store/product/large/6/_5709826.jpg" border="0" alt="" width="147" height="225" /></a><img src="http://ad.linksynergy.com/fs-bin/show?id=j3wYAlndgaI&#38;bids=21855.2988354&#38;type=2&#38;subid=0" border="0" alt="" width="1" height="1" />9. <strong>Buy suits with multiple buttons. </strong>When suit shopping, look for suits with at least two or three buttons on them -- a higher closure will mean your bust is more covered.  Avoid suits with a single button in the middle.  (If you're considering a double-breasted suit, please put it down, and stop shopping until the urge passes.)  Pictured: <a href="http://click.linksynergy.com/fs-bin/click?id=j3wYAlndgaI&#38;offerid=21855.2988354&#38;type=2&#38;subid=0">Lafayette 148 New York 'Everson' Jacket</a><img src="http://ad.linksynergy.com/fs-bin/show?id=j3wYAlndgaI&#38;bids=21855.2988354&#38;type=2&#38;subid=0" border="0" alt="" width="1" height="1" />, available at Nordstrom's for $398.

10. <strong>Try to find a professionally-dressed woman with your body type and watch her,</strong> both to get inspiration for outfits for yourself, as well as to learn which things don't look good.  Examples: Oprah.  Karen on Will &#38; Grace (sometimes too sexy, sometimes just right). Maria Bartiromo.  We'll try to keep thinking of suggestions...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-1874" style="border: 0pt none; margin-left: 10px; margin-right: 10px;" title="joan-h" src="http://corporette.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/joan-h-199x300.jpg" alt="" width="199" height="300" />A lot of times for our TPS reports, people will note that they couldn&#8217;t get away with that, as they&#8217;re too well-endowed to wear a certain dress.  It&#8217;s one of the sad facts of clothes that most &#8220;professional&#8221; outfits seem to be intended for women shaped more like Jackie rather than Marilyn (or Betty rather than Joan, in today&#8217;s parlance).  But well-endowed women have to dress professionally also!  Below, some tips&#8230; <strong>Please chime in and let us know if you have any others.</strong></p>
<p>1. <strong>Know your bra size. </strong>If the girls are multiplying throughout the day (and your bra is giving you the dreaded quadra-boob effect) then your cup size is too small.  Alternatively, if your straps are digging into your shoulders, your band size is probably too big.  Take our advice &#8212; go and get fitted at a reputable place like Nordstrom&#8217;s.  (The absolute best place to get fitted, in our experience?  Department stores in London &#8211;  they have the best range of sizes and the most knowledgeable fitters.)  You may find that you&#8217;re a 30F instead of a 34D.</p>
<p><a href="http://redirectingat.com?id=4505X645619&xs=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fclick.linksynergy.com%2Ffs-bin%2Fclick%3Fid%3Dj3wYAlndgaI%26amp%3Bofferid%3D21855.2893192%26amp%3Btype%3D2%26amp%3Bsubid%3D0&sref=rss"><img class="alignright" style="border: 0pt none; margin-left: 10px; margin-right: 10px;" src="http://content.nordstrom.com/imagegallery/store/product/large/8/_5530168.jpg" border="0" alt="" width="147" height="225" /></a><img src="http://ad.linksynergy.com/fs-bin/show?id=j3wYAlndgaI&amp;bids=21855.2893192&amp;type=2&amp;subid=0" border="0" alt="" width="1" height="1" />2. <strong>Wear appropriate bras for work.</strong> You may think that a lacy balconette is fine to wear beneath your suits &#8212; after all, your boss doesn&#8217;t see it.  (Or so we hope.)  But your goal with underpinnings should be to minimize distractions &#8212; a balconette bra might let things bounce around while you&#8217;re rushing down the hall to your next meeting (not a terribly pretty &#8212; or professional &#8212; sight), or the lace pattern might show through your otherwise tasteful shirt.  Aim for seamless bras wherever possible, with full coverage.  Again, make sure that your bra fits and isn&#8217;t creating quadra- or sexta-boobage.  Some favorites include <a href="http://redirectingat.com?id=4505X645619&xs=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fclick.linksynergy.com%2Ffs-bin%2Fclick%3Fid%3Dj3wYAlndgaI%26amp%3Bofferid%3D21855.2893192%26amp%3Btype%3D2%26amp%3Bsubid%3D0&sref=rss">Fantasie &#8217;4510&#8242; Smoothing Underwire T-Shirt Bra</a><img src="http://ad.linksynergy.com/fs-bin/show?id=j3wYAlndgaI&amp;bids=21855.2893192&amp;type=2&amp;subid=0" border="0" alt="" width="1" height="1" /> (pictured) and <a href="http://redirectingat.com?id=4505X645619&xs=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fclick.linksynergy.com%2Ffs-bin%2Fclick%3Fid%3Dj3wYAlndgaI%26amp%3Bofferid%3D21855.2815323%26amp%3Btype%3D2%26amp%3Bsubid%3D0&sref=rss">Le Mystere &#8216;Dream Tisha 9955&#8242; Underwire T-Shirt Bra</a><img src="http://ad.linksynergy.com/fs-bin/show?id=j3wYAlndgaI&amp;bids=21855.2815323&amp;type=2&amp;subid=0" border="0" alt="" width="1" height="1" />.</p>
<p>3. <strong>Minimize if you still feel uncomfortable.</strong> If you&#8217;re wearing the right size and an appropriately modest bra for work, and you&#8217;re still feeling too busty, you may want to look into a minimizer.  Our $.02: in our experience these are uncomfortable for the day where it&#8217;s going to be a long haul, and your breasts tend to look less natural.  But it may make you feel better, sartorially speaking.</p>
<p>4. <strong>Know your neckline</strong>.  The Jackies and Betties of the world can wear the crew necks and the mock turtlenecks &#8212; those styles really are not flattering on the Marilyns and the Jackies of the world.  If you fall into the latter camp, you still have a wide selection &#8212; v-necks, scoopnecks, boat necks, cowl necks, and &#8212; if accesorized correctly &#8212; turtlenecks.  (A button-down shirt, open at the collar,  creates the effect of a v-neck.)  Most of these look great beneath suits (the exception being the boatneck, which looks better on its own).</p>
<p><a href="http://redirectingat.com?id=4505X645619&xs=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tkqlhce.com%2Fclick-3039637-10420955%3Furl%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.oldnavy.com%252Fbrowse%252Fproduct.do%253Fpid%253D507590502%2526tid%253DONAF86%2526ap%253D2%2526siteID%253D%2525zp%26amp%3Bcjsku%3D507590502&sref=rss" target="_blank"><img class="alignleft" style="border: 0pt none; margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 5px;" src="http://www.oldnavy.com/Asset_Archive/ONWeb/Assets/Product/507/507590/main/on507590-50p01v01.jpg" border="0" alt="Women: Women's Basic Camis - Punk Pink" width="140" height="187" /></a></p>
<p><img src="http://www.tqlkg.com/image-3039637-10420955" border="0" alt="" width="1" height="1" />5.  <strong>Raise the eyeline in artificial ways. </strong>If you&#8217;re well-endowed and trying to be professional, the <em>last </em>thing you want is to draw anyone&#8217;s eye to your cleavage.  If you&#8217;re wearing a v-neck that dips a bit low for work, <strong>first add a camisole. </strong>Go for something plain &#8212; not lacy &#8212; that will raise the neckline and cling to your chest (and not gape open).  Ann Taylor Loft makes some good ones; we&#8217;re also fans of Old Navy&#8217;s simple cotton camisoles (pictured and linked).  (Another tip:  never wear a nude camisole &#8212; you don&#8217;t want people wondering if that&#8217;s your skin or a camisole they&#8217;re seeing.  Go for white or black if you don&#8217;t have one that matches or compliments your top.)  <strong>You can also use accessories to draw the eye upwards</strong> &#8212; a pair of pearls that stops below your clavicle tends to draw the eyes there; a brooch placed on your shoulder also tends to draw the eye there.  Avoid pendants or long necklaces that hit you at your bust&#8217;s widest point.</p>
<p>6. <strong>If you&#8217;re busty, you may find that you prefer tops that have no buttons </strong>&#8211; t-shirts and sweaters don&#8217;t gape open, after all.  If you find that sweaters hug your curves a bit too much, try for a silky camisole beneath them &#8212; it makes everything lay better.  (A cotton camisole will just stick to the sweater.)</p>
<p>7.  <strong>When buying things, buy them to fit your bust. </strong>If a button-down blouse is gaping in your chest, it&#8217;s never going to look right &#8212; just buy the next size (or two) bigger and then get it tailored.  Similarly, with dresses &#8212; if the girls are smooshed then the dress will never fit properly.  (You can try it with a minimizer, but trust us &#8212; just get the next size bigger.)  Some brands that are forgiving in the bust include <a href="http://redirectingat.com?id=4505X645619&xs=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rebeccaanddrew.com%2F&sref=rss" target="_blank">Rebecca &amp; Drew</a> (which has button-down shirts sized by bra sizes); Shoshanna dresses, David Meister dresses, Tahari, and Ann Taylor.</p>
<p>8.  <strong>Know your proportions. </strong>If your figure is an hourglass, do your best to work within that shape &#8212; even if you long to wear A-line skirts, a pencil skirt may be more flattering.  Similarly, if you&#8217;re more of an inverted triangle &#8212; large on top with slender hips (or not much of a waist) you may want to try to wear an A-line skirt, to balance the top.  You may find that wearing outfits of entirely one color are more flattering.  Many, many articles have been written about this &#8212; you may want to check out <a href="http://redirectingat.com?id=4505X645619&xs=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Ftlc.discovery.com%2Ffansites%2Fwhatnottowear%2Ffashion_tips%2Findex.html&sref=rss" target="_blank">What Not to Wear&#8217;s Fashion Tips for the Hard to Fit</a>, or Happygrrls&#8217; quiz, <a href="http://redirectingat.com?id=4505X645619&xs=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.happygrrls.com%2Ffashion%2Fhowtodressforbodytype.html&sref=rss" target="_blank">What Body Type Are You?</a> We&#8217;re also partial to Jezebel&#8217;s Sadie&#8217;s tips on finding your personal style by <a href="http://redirectingat.com?id=4505X645619&xs=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fjezebel.com%2F5025861%2Fpractical-tips-for-personal-style-or-why-not-to-listen-to-womens-magazines&sref=rss" target="_blank">finding an era in which your body type was in vogue. </a></p>
<p><a href="http://redirectingat.com?id=4505X645619&xs=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fclick.linksynergy.com%2Ffs-bin%2Fclick%3Fid%3Dj3wYAlndgaI%26amp%3Bofferid%3D21855.2988354%26amp%3Btype%3D2%26amp%3Bsubid%3D0&sref=rss"><img class="alignright" style="border: 0pt none;" src="http://content.nordstrom.com/imagegallery/store/product/large/6/_5709826.jpg" border="0" alt="" width="147" height="225" /></a><img src="http://ad.linksynergy.com/fs-bin/show?id=j3wYAlndgaI&amp;bids=21855.2988354&amp;type=2&amp;subid=0" border="0" alt="" width="1" height="1" />9. <strong>Buy suits with multiple buttons. </strong>When suit shopping, look for suits with at least two or three buttons on them &#8212; a higher closure will mean your bust is more covered.  Avoid suits with a single button in the middle.  (If you&#8217;re considering a double-breasted suit, please put it down, and stop shopping until the urge passes.)  Pictured: <a href="http://redirectingat.com?id=4505X645619&xs=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fclick.linksynergy.com%2Ffs-bin%2Fclick%3Fid%3Dj3wYAlndgaI%26amp%3Bofferid%3D21855.2988354%26amp%3Btype%3D2%26amp%3Bsubid%3D0&sref=rss">Lafayette 148 New York &#8216;Everson&#8217; Jacket</a><img src="http://ad.linksynergy.com/fs-bin/show?id=j3wYAlndgaI&amp;bids=21855.2988354&amp;type=2&amp;subid=0" border="0" alt="" width="1" height="1" />, available at Nordstrom&#8217;s for $398.</p>
<p>10. <strong>Try to find a professionally-dressed woman with your body type and watch her,</strong> both to get inspiration for outfits for yourself, as well as to learn which things don&#8217;t look good.  Examples: Oprah.  Karen on Will &amp; Grace (sometimes too sexy, sometimes just right). Maria Bartiromo.  We&#8217;ll try to keep thinking of suggestions&#8230;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>10 Things About &#8230; Interviewing</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 17:31:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We realize interview week is over at some schools; for others they&#8217;re still to come. Still, callbacks will be going on well into September and October, so we thought we&#8217;d share some advice on interviewing. Photo at left by SOCIALisBETTER, courtesy of Flickr. Interview Prep&#8230; 1. Make sure your resume [...]]]></description>
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<p>We realize interview week is over at some schools; for others they&#8217;re still to come.  Still, callbacks will be going on well into September and October, so we thought we&#8217;d share some advice on interviewing.  <em>Photo at left by <a href="http://redirectingat.com?id=4505X645619&xs=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fflickr.com%2Fphotos%2F27620885%40N02%2F2654393745%2F&sref=rss" target="_blank">SOCIALisBETTER</a>, courtesy of Flickr.</em></p>
<h2><strong><span style="color: #3366ff;">Interview Prep&#8230;</span></strong></h2>
<p>1. <strong>Make sure your resume is up to date and without typos. </strong>We recommend putting the &#8220;date printed&#8221; on your resume &#8212; it can just be a field in your footer.  This is especially helpful when you make changes to your resume, or if you interview with firms multiple years.</p>
<p>2.  <strong>Think about which of your personality traits to highlight. </strong>Try to recognize what it is about you that makes you a great catch for an employer.  Are you creative, an outside-the-box thinker?  A great manager?  Someone who pulls teams together?  These are the sorts of things that won&#8217;t appear on your resume and might not even come up through your references.  Now, once you&#8217;ve identified those traits, sift through your experiences to find examples of those traits in action, because showing is always better than telling when it comes to these things.  Armed with two or three stories, you&#8217;ll be all set to casually drop them in when you interview.  It&#8217;s a great way to prepare for those questions you can&#8217;t prepare for &#8212; (&#8220;What does your resume not tell me?&#8221;) &#8212; and it&#8217;s a great way to sound intelligent and charming but not rehearsed.</p>
<p>3. <strong>Research, research, research. </strong>Google  the firm or company.  Know the web site backwards and forwards.  If you&#8217;re interviewing with a law firm, search Westlaw for recent decisions (or briefs) that lawyers at the firm were involved with.  Check <a href="http://redirectingat.com?id=4505X645619&xs=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fabovethelaw.com%2F&sref=rss" target="_blank">Above The Law</a> for scuttlebutt.</p>
<p>4. <strong>Work an inside connection. </strong>Peruse Linked In to see who you know.  Figure out if anyone from your journal worked there last summer.  Ask the Career Office if they know of any alums.  Try to make a phone call or shoot an e-mail &#8212; if you know the person well it can be as simple as &#8220;I&#8217;ve got an interview this Monday with ____ &#8212; anything I should know?&#8221;  We once advised a friend to mention a recent case during her interview and she got the job.</p>
<h2><strong><span style="color: #3366ff;">During the Interview&#8230;</span></strong></h2>
<p>5. <strong>Lean forward &#8212; it silently conveys your interest. </strong>Simultaneously, avoid crossing your arms<strong> </strong>(it makes you seem closed off) and keep your focus on the &#8220;triangle&#8221; of the person&#8217;s face formed by their eyes and mouth.  Check out Lifehacker&#8217;s guide to other &#8220;<a href="http://redirectingat.com?id=4505X645619&xs=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Flifehacker.com%2F399895%2Ftop-10-conversation-hacks&sref=rss" target="_blank">conversation hacks</a>.&#8221;</p>
<p>6. <strong>Focus on the conversation and be sure to answer the questions asked.</strong> Sometimes doing a little preparation work makes you overeager to answer questions a certain way &#8212; be sure you&#8217;re not making that mistake.</p>
<h2><strong><span style="color: #3366ff;">After the Interview&#8230;</span></strong></h2>
<p>7. <strong>Keep detailed notes of who you spoke to &#8212; and what you spoke about.</strong> We had a friend who, during her OCI week, kept a spreadsheet that included the firm&#8217;s name/website/telephone number, the date of the interview, the name of her interviewer, 3 brief pros and 3 cons about the firm (in case someone from the firm called she wanted to remember quickly), the date of her callback and any information about it (hotel/flight reservations, etc), the name of who she interviewed with on her callback, and her general impressions from walking around inside the firm on her callback.</p>
<p>8.  <strong>Don&#8217;t pick up your telephone unless you know who&#8217;s calling.</strong> Of COURSE, firms aren&#8217;t fungible.  But the distinctions between the firms tend to get a bit blurry after a you&#8217;ve interviewed with 15-20 of them.  Our advice:  let everything go to voicemail unless you know for sure who&#8217;s calling.  This way you&#8217;ll absolutely be prepared to sound professional, intelligent, and 100% interested in the job.</p>
<p>9. <strong>Set up Google Alerts or Westlaw alerts if you&#8217;re interviewing for a legal job. </strong>If there&#8217;s a new development, you&#8217;ll want to hear about it, both to sound knowledgeable about the firm during your interview as well as to gauge your own interest in the firm.</p>
<p>10.  <strong>Send professional thank you notes. </strong>Check and check again to be sure there are no typos in the letter!  Be sure to mention the conversation you had (&#8220;It was great to hear more about X and Y&#8221;).  If you interviewed with multiple people, it&#8217;s acceptable to send one thank-you note to just one of the people &#8212; either via the hiring office or to whichever (senior) interviewer you clicked with the best.  For more advice on thank-you notes, check out this list of <a href="http://redirectingat.com?id=4505X645619&xs=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.quintcareers.com%2Fthank_you_letters.html&sref=rss" target="_blank">FAQs on Thank You Letters</a>.</p>
<p>We also suggest you check out the Daily Lawyer&#8217;s <a href="http://redirectingat.com?id=4505X645619&xs=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nylawyer.com%2Fdisplay.php%2Ffile%3D%2Fcrossroads%2F08%2F081208&sref=rss" target="_blank">interview</a> <a href="http://redirectingat.com?id=4505X645619&xs=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nylawyer.com%2Fdisplay.php%2Ffile%3D%2Fcrossroads%2F08%2F081908&sref=rss" target="_blank">tips</a>. <em><strong>Have we left anything out?  Comment away&#8230;</strong></em></p>
<p><strong>Liking this article?  Check out more like it in our <a href="http://corporette.com/category/careerism/interviewing/" target="_blank">Interviewing section</a> &#8212; including posts such as:</strong></p>
<p>- <a href="http://corporette.com/2008/08/11/reader-mailbag-part-i-what-to-wear-on-interviews-generally/" target="_blank">What to wear to your interview</a></p>
<p>- <a href="http://corporette.com/2008/08/18/the-hunt-interview-tote-bags/" target="_blank">How to accessorize for your interview</a></p>
<p>- <a href="http://corporette.com/2008/08/13/suits-of-the-week-the-basics/" target="_blank">Our thoughts and suggestions on basic suits</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>10 Things: About the Art Of Saying Goodbye*</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 17:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[*The Pat Benatar song is actually &#8220;About the Art of Letting Go,&#8221; not saying good bye, but so it goes. As the summer dwindles for summer classes of future MBAs and JDs, we thought we&#8217;d give some advice on how to say goodbye (and hello). While you&#8217;re still working there&#8230; [...]]]></description>
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<p><em>*The Pat Benatar song is actually &#8220;About the Art of Letting Go,&#8221; not saying good bye, but so it goes.</em></p>
<p>As the summer dwindles for summer classes of future MBAs and JDs, we thought we&#8217;d give some advice on how to say goodbye (and hello).</p>
<h2><span style="color: #ff0000;">While you&#8217;re still working there&#8230;</span></h2>
<p>1. <strong>Give people a head&#8217;s up that your last day is approaching</strong> &#8212; do your best to set up lunch, coffee, whatever. Until you&#8217;ve accepted your offer there is still very much an air of &#8220;let&#8217;s make the summers happy,&#8221; so now would be a good time to approach that Big Wig and see if you can set something up.  (Hint:  If you&#8217;re trying to organize something with the CEO or Executive Partner you may want to try to get a few other summers on board &#8212; it&#8217;ll be less awkward for you and it&#8217;ll be seen as more time-efficient for the Big Wig.)</p>
<p>2. <strong>Assess if you&#8217;d like to offer any of your time during your final year in school </strong>&#8211; law firms in particular have been known to quietly use 3Ls if there is too much work.  If you&#8217;d like to commit your time during your last full year of freedom, offer it up during lunch or coffee.</p>
<p>3. <strong>Make sure people in your summer class are organizing a thank-you present </strong>for your secretaries, as well as the recruiting office &#8212; flowers are nice, spa packages are better.  If no one is, spearhead the effort yourself.  If you had a very active summer, follow up with a hand-written thank-you note to the recruiting office.  Why?  It&#8217;s the gracious thing to do. (And no one likes working with an ingrate.)</p>
<p>4.  <strong>On your last day, try to do a personal drop-by to say goodbye </strong>to the people you enjoyed working with the most.  If anything comes up in the conversation, be sure to follow up on it.  Exchange e-mail addresses if possible &#8212; if there was a mid-level at the company you especially liked you may want to make sure you get his or her personal e-mail address, on the off chance they leave before you return.</p>
<p>5.  <strong>Be judicious about social networking sites</strong>.  It&#8217;s fine to use Facebook or MySpace to connect with the other students you summered with.  If you want to, it&#8217;s not inappropriate to use LinkedIn to connect, either. However, <strong>do not request to become &#8220;Linked In&#8221; with superiors </strong>at the company, unless you&#8217;d also ask them to recommend you to a future employer &#8212; it&#8217;s more serious than a casual link, and no one has really had time to assess the other person&#8217;s work.  Requesting to become linked to an mid-level or senior person you had lunch once or twice with, or wrote a memo for, is really not acceptable.  <strong> Similarly, be wise about your Facebook or MySpace page</strong> &#8212; if you&#8217;re going to connect with future work associates, take your cue from them.  If they don&#8217;t have drunken bikini shots of themselves on there, you might want to think twice before putting those on your own page.  (Although, really, we&#8217;re hoping you removed those pictures before you started the interview process.)</p>
<h2><span style="color: #ff0000;">During the long absence&#8230;</span></h2>
<p>6. <strong>Stay in touch with people you liked! </strong>Ask for advice, give them a general update on your life if you got to personally know someone well.  This can pay off professionally:  if you worked at a law firm this summer and got to know a first- or second-year associate very well, by the time you get back they&#8217;ll be a mid-level associate with (hopefully) good work to pass along.</p>
<p>7.  <strong>Use Google Alerts to stay &#8220;up&#8221; on projects you worked on during the summer. </strong>Did the deal ever happen? Did the case ever settle? Did the product ever launch?  Send an e-mail when you see an article on point to the bosses who supervised you.  Also use the service to stay up on other company news and gossip.  This way, if the firm wins a huge judgment, or the company posts huge profits you can congratulate the people you knew at the company (as well as being aware if layoffs happen or the stock price plummets).  Finally, you may also want to use Google Alerts for any newsmakers in your firm &#8212; it never hurts to e-mail the BigWig and say, &#8220;Ah, saw your op-ed in last week&#8217;s WSJ.  I learned a lot, and thought you&#8217;d be interested to read ____ as well.&#8221;</p>
<p>8. <strong>Don&#8217;t speak ill of your experience around campus. </strong>Remember, this is the company you&#8217;ll be working for; it will appear on your resume &#8212; you don&#8217;t want to contribute to a bad opinion of it, if one exists (and you certainly don&#8217;t want to create one).</p>
<h2><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>As you prepare to come back for the start of work&#8230;</strong></span></h2>
<p>9.  <strong>Send a personal e-mail to the people you worked with to let them know you&#8217;re coming back </strong>&#8211; even if everyone in your class is starting on the same date.  The onus of getting back in touch falls to the person with the least seniority &#8212; which is you.  Let them know you&#8217;ll be coming back soon; depending on the person you&#8217;re e-mailing you may want to ask if they have any good projects if they can hold them for your start date, or you may want to ask if there are any projects at the company you should avoid like the plague.</p>
<p>10. <strong>Whatever you do, during every part of this process, avoid e-mailing everyone at the company or law firm.</strong> You may have seen people who had worked at the company for years send around a mass e-mail saying good bye &#8212; THIS IS NOT YOU.  DO NOT DO THIS.  All you will do is make yourself seem self-important and lacking in discrimination.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Amazingly, everyone we know right now is either trying to get their eating under control (the Fourth of July was apparently a very happy one for everyone!) or outright diet. This can seem like a nearly impossible task if you&#8217;ve got cocktail parties, catered dinners, and three-course lunches on a [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p><a href="http://redirectingat.com?id=4505X645619&xs=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fthreadless.com%2Fproduct%2F1000%2FRunnin_Rhino%23zoom&sref=rss" target="_blank"><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-488" style="border: 0pt none; float: left; margin-left: 10px; margin-right: 10px;" title="picture-25" src="http://corporette.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/picture-25-300x218.png" alt="" width="212" height="153" /></a>Amazingly, everyone we know right now is either trying to get their eating under control (the Fourth of July was apparently a very happy one for everyone!) or outright diet.  This can seem like a nearly impossible task if you&#8217;ve got cocktail parties, catered dinners, and three-course lunches on a daily basis &#8212; especially since so many diet programs require you to cook (or at least eat specific foods that can take a ton of time to prepare).  What&#8217;s a working girl to do?  Here are our tips&#8230;</p>
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<p>1.  <strong>Go slow and choose realistic goals. </strong>Now is not the time to try that new fast/&#8221;cleanse&#8221;/diet pill you&#8217;ve heard so much about &#8212; particularly if you&#8217;re interning with the company for the summer in hopes of getting a job offer.  You need your wits about you and hormone/energy levels that are as stable as possible.  We&#8217;re huge fans of the <a href="http://redirectingat.com?id=4505X645619&xs=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.weightwatchers.com%2Findex.aspx&sref=rss" target="_blank">Weight Watchers program</a> (you can do the online-only program for $16.95 per month and never worry about fitting a meeting into your schedule) &#8212; it endorses the idea of having a calorie &#8220;budget&#8221; and encourages you to plan your food intake on a daily and weekly timeframe.</p>
<p>2. <strong>Try to adopt a &#8220;one big meal a day policy,&#8221; </strong>even if you&#8217;re not doing a program like WW.  For example, if you had a big lunch, have a salad for dinner.  To assess how big your meals are, you can always guesstimate calories using free resources like <a href="http://redirectingat.com?id=4505X645619&xs=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.calorieking.com%2F&sref=rss" target="_blank">CalorieKing</a> or <a href="http://redirectingat.com?id=4505X645619&xs=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.halfmysize.com%2Fcontent%2Fview%2F16%2F35%2F&sref=rss" target="_blank">nutritionals at restaurants</a> that have similar meals.</p>
<p>3. <strong>Skip the bread basket. </strong>We know it&#8217;s hard &#8212; all that yummy warm goodness just looking at you.  But one roll can be 200-300 calories, and that can add up very easily over time.  Particularly if you&#8217;re trying to limit yourself to, say, 1500 calories per day.</p>
<p>4. <strong>In fact, skip simple carbs as much as you can and focus on protein and fiber. </strong>We don&#8217;t subscribe to any sort of idea that carbs are evil, but we do think that when you&#8217;re on a diet you have to sort of think of &#8220;getting the bang for your buck.&#8221;  If you&#8217;re trying to limit your calorie intake per day, you want those calories to fuel you &#8212; to make you feel full for as long as possible, with as much energy as possible.  Let&#8217;s face it, those &#8220;100 Calorie Snacks&#8221; just aren&#8217;t likely to do that &#8230; but protein and fiber will.   So if you&#8217;re being taken to lunch, aim for lean protein sources (chicken, turkey, lean steak &#8212; shrimp and non-fatty fish are particularly low calorie on an ounce-per-ounce basis) and vegetables with as little added to them as possible. If you&#8217;re in the mood for dessert, look for fruit &#8212; berries are crazy high in fiber if you&#8217;re really trying hard.  (These are perfect examples of when dieting at a corporate job is a PLUS &#8212; all of these menu items tend to be terribly expensive if it&#8217;s coming out of your own pocket.)</p>
<p>5. <strong>Watch out for potential landmines. </strong>Here&#8217;s where it pays to understand the difference between cooking at home and eating out.  If you were making a tuna salad for yourself, you might use reduced-fat or low-fat mayo &#8212; a restaurant is highly unlikely to do that.  So even though tuna itself is low-fat, the mayo is packed with calories and fat.  Some items may be doused in butter (vegetables, pasta) or have butter baked inside it (we&#8217;re told that a lot of restaurants will hide a pat of butter in a burger to make it taste better).  Some ingredients may not even be on your radar screen as being problematic &#8212; for example, 1 cup of coconut milk has more calories than a Big Mac.  <strong>Always get your sauce or dressing on the side. </strong>We&#8217;d suggest spritzing all salads and vegetables with lemon wedges &#8212; which every restaurant has &#8212; and if you still need more flavor, dip your fork in the sauce/dressing before forking your food.</p>
<p>6. <strong>Stave off hunger with liquids. </strong>Actually, you may not be as hungry as you think you are if you just drink a bottle of water.  (Add lemon juice to your water if you&#8217;re bloating &#8212; it&#8217;s a diuretic and works wonders.  If you&#8217;re actually hungry, though, caffeine is great for tricking you into thinking you&#8217;re not that  hungry&#8211; we find more of a difference with coffee versus Diet Coke (even if it&#8217;s decaffeinated coffee) but that&#8217;s just us.  Watch how much milk you&#8217;re adding to your coffee &#8212; even that can add up over time.</p>
<p>7. <strong>Eat before you go. </strong>It may seem counterintuitive to eat MORE in order to suggest you lose weight, but a simple snack (50-100 calories) before you head to that catered cocktail party will help you keep a level head when the booze starts flowing and that cute actor/waiter starts offering yummy treats on a silver platter.  Some suggestions for low-cal but healthy snacks that will be filling: <a href="http://redirectingat.com?id=4505X645619&xs=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lightnfit.com%2Fproducts%2Flight_and_fit%2Flight_and_fit.html&sref=rss" target="_blank">yogurt</a> (mix it with <a href="http://redirectingat.com?id=4505X645619&xs=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FFiber-One-Cereal-16-2-Ounce-Boxes%2Fdp%2FB000S97K5G%2Fref%3Dsr_1_1%3Fie%3DUTF8%26amp%3Bs%3Dgrocery%26amp%3Bqid%3D1215734510%26amp%3Bsr%3D1-1&sref=rss" target="_blank">Fiber One cereal</a> &#8212; in addition to fiber you&#8217;ll add crunch), <a href="http://redirectingat.com?id=4505X645619&xs=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vitalicious.com%2Fvitatops_info.html&sref=rss" target="_blank">Vitatops</a>, <a href="http://redirectingat.com?id=4505X645619&xs=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2Fs%2Fref%3Dnb_ss_gw%3Furl%3Dsearch-alias%253Daps%26amp%3Bfield-keywords%3Draw%2Balmonds%26amp%3Bx%3D0%26amp%3By%3D0&sref=rss" target="_blank">6 raw almonds</a>, <a href="http://redirectingat.com?id=4505X645619&xs=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FMcCANNS-Instant-Oatmeal-Cinnamon-12-3-Ounce%2Fdp%2FB000FGXUOM%2Fref%3Dpd_bbs_9%3Fie%3DUTF8%26amp%3Bs%3Dgrocery%26amp%3Bqid%3D1215734402%26amp%3Bsr%3D8-9&sref=rss" target="_blank">oatmeal</a>, or strip cheese (we particularly love Trader Joe&#8217;s reduced-fat cheese).</p>
<p>8.  <strong>Implement a system for dealing with hors d&#8217;oeuvres. </strong>We heard of someone who had a system where, for each yummy treat she ate, she would eat 3 healthy ones.  Kudos to you if you can do that.  We just try to choose 3 unhealthy things that have our name on them if they pass us on a tray &#8212; and nothing else shall tempt us.</p>
<p>9. <strong>Don&#8217;t drink too many calories. </strong>Asking for wine spritzers doesn&#8217;t save that many calories, actually, but if you&#8217;re going to be drinking for 5-7 hours then it all adds up!  Amstel Light is our preferred low-calorie beer of choice (about 100 calories per bottle) &#8212; most bars seem to stock it.  Skip the juice mixer unless you&#8217;re sick and go with soda instead (vodka soda, whiskey soda).  If you&#8217;re really bent on sticking to your diet, don&#8217;t drink at all.  In our earlier article about what your drink says about you, <a href="http://corporette.com/2008/06/17/etiquette-flash-what-your-drink-says-about-you/#comment-62" target="_blank">commenter Zoe</a> noted that as a lightweight she tries to get to the bar early and &#8220;start with a lime and soda with lots of ice, because it looks like a G&amp;T&#8221; &#8212; this is great advice for the dieters, also.</p>
<p>10. <strong>Get whatever exercise you can.</strong> Take the stairs instead of the elevator.  Get off one subway stop earlier and walk the rest of the way.  Keep in mind that while cardio is great, <a href="http://redirectingat.com?id=4505X645619&xs=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.stumptuous.com%2Fcms%2F&sref=rss" target="_blank">toning work</a> will actually have more impact if you&#8217;ve got limited time &#8212; having more muscles increases your metabolism.  (It&#8217;s also easier to do without working up a sweat, meaning if you&#8217;ve got 15-45 minutes free, you can do that stuff without necessarily showering).  Even if you can&#8217;t get to the gym, do some squats before you take your lunch break, or push-ups.  Tighten your abs and/or glutes on elevator rides.  Do what you can.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>10 Things to Know About: Wearing Button-Down Shirts</title>
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<a href="http://www.anrdoezrs.net/r1101lnwtnvAEBEKHEIACBJJHHFJ?sid=TPblouses&#38;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.brooksbrothers.com%2Fwomen.process%3Fparent%3Dwomen%26pgname%3Dmiracleshirt" target="_blank"><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-16861" style="margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 5px;" title="1" src="http://corporette.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/1-207x300.png" alt="" width="124" height="180" /></a>Someone was telling us recently that they didn't wear button-down shirts, didn't even know <em>how </em>to wear 'em. So, here ya go...

1. If you're going for the crisp cotton look, go for non-iron. <a href="http://www.anrdoezrs.net/r1101lnwtnvAEBEKHEIACBJJHHFJ?sid=TPblouses&#38;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.brooksbrothers.com%2Fwomen.process%3Fparent%3Dwomen%26pgname%3Dmiracleshirt" target="_blank">Brooks Brothers</a><img src="http://www.ftjcfx.com/l3104qmqeki3747DA7B354CCAA8C" alt="" width="1" height="1" border="0" /> makes a great fitted non-iron shirt. <a href="http://www.jdoqocy.com/mm79ft1zt0GKHKQNKOGPOPKHOQ" target="_blank">Thomas Pink</a> (very high end, typically thought of as a man's store) makes amazing button-down shirts for women, also, with interesting prints and a lovely fit.

2. Collars should stay on the inside of the jacket, not splayed open on the outside.

3. If you have a white shirt, try not to put it in the dryer in order to avoid yellowing. Actually, in our experience the iron-free shirts look best when hung dry. (Just pull them taut, a bit, when they're wet and you're hanging on the hanger -- it always seems to help the fabric figure out where to go.)

4. If you've got a French cuff shirt, do not bother with those tiny knots you can buy at places for $10 -- you're wasting your money and time, because they take forever to put in. Instead, make an investment in a good pair of cufflinks -- Thomas Pink has great ones; Vivre also has some beautiful ones right now

5. Tucking: If you're wearing a fitted, button-down shirt (such as the ones from Pink) you can experiment with how it looks untucked. The key is that it can't be too long -- it should hit mid-hip, and no matter what should not be longer than your suit jacket. Silky shirts should always be tucked.

6. If you want a very clean look, there are some stores that make leotard-like button-down shirts. See, for example, <a href="http://www2.victoriassecret.com/commerce/application/prodDisplay/?namespace=productDisplay&#38;origin=onlineProductDisplay.jsp&#38;event=display&#38;prnbr=8P-165085&#38;page=1&#38;cgname=OSCLOBLOSAB&#38;rfnbr=3947">Victoria's Secret</a>.

7. Non-traditional style idea: Wear a short-sleeved button-down shirt beneath a vest or even a t-shirt. (We've given up trying to wear anything but silky button-downs beneath full-sleeve sweaters -- the static cling gets us every time.)

8. Non-traditional style idea, Part 2: Wear a camisole/tank top underneath the button-down shirt, tuck in the shirt, and only button it up halfway, so people can see the camisole beneath. See Allison Janey in West Wing.

9. Gaping: If your shirt is gaping, this could mean a few things. A) You need a larger size, and should take it to a tailor to get it to fit you the way you want it to. B) You need to wear a camisole beneath it, so when you turn to the side people don't get a view of your bra. C) You can experiment with Hollywood Tape and so forth to keep it from gaping -- we've found the camisole is just easier.

10. Beneath the white shirt: Wear a bra that matches your skin tone, and a white camisole, no matter how convinced you are that no one can see through it. We've tried the nude camisole, and trust is: white just looks better.

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<p>1. If you&#8217;re going for the crisp cotton look, go for non-iron. <a href="http://redirectingat.com?id=4505X645619&xs=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.anrdoezrs.net%2Fr1101lnwtnvAEBEKHEIACBJJHHFJ%3Fsid%3DTPblouses%26amp%3Burl%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.brooksbrothers.com%252Fwomen.process%253Fparent%253Dwomen%2526pgname%253Dmiracleshirt&sref=rss" target="_blank">Brooks Brothers</a><img src="http://www.ftjcfx.com/l3104qmqeki3747DA7B354CCAA8C" alt="" width="1" height="1" border="0" /> makes a great fitted non-iron shirt. <a href="http://redirectingat.com?id=4505X645619&xs=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jdoqocy.com%2Fmm79ft1zt0GKHKQNKOGPOPKHOQ&sref=rss" target="_blank">Thomas Pink</a> (very high end, typically thought of as a man&#8217;s store) makes amazing button-down shirts for women, also, with interesting prints and a lovely fit.</p>
<p>2. Collars should stay on the inside of the jacket, not splayed open on the outside.</p>
<p>3. If you have a white shirt, try not to put it in the dryer in order to avoid yellowing. Actually, in our experience the iron-free shirts look best when hung dry. (Just pull them taut, a bit, when they&#8217;re wet and you&#8217;re hanging on the hanger &#8212; it always seems to help the fabric figure out where to go.)</p>
<p>4. If you&#8217;ve got a French cuff shirt, do not bother with those tiny knots you can buy at places for $10 &#8212; you&#8217;re wasting your money and time, because they take forever to put in. Instead, make an investment in a good pair of cufflinks &#8212; Thomas Pink has great ones; Vivre also has some beautiful ones right now</p>
<p>5. Tucking: If you&#8217;re wearing a fitted, button-down shirt (such as the ones from Pink) you can experiment with how it looks untucked. The key is that it can&#8217;t be too long &#8212; it should hit mid-hip, and no matter what should not be longer than your suit jacket. Silky shirts should always be tucked.</p>
<p>6. If you want a very clean look, there are some stores that make leotard-like button-down shirts. See, for example, <a href="http://redirectingat.com?id=4505X645619&xs=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww2.victoriassecret.com%2Fcommerce%2Fapplication%2FprodDisplay%2F%3Fnamespace%3DproductDisplay%26amp%3Borigin%3DonlineProductDisplay.jsp%26amp%3Bevent%3Ddisplay%26amp%3Bprnbr%3D8P-165085%26amp%3Bpage%3D1%26amp%3Bcgname%3DOSCLOBLOSAB%26amp%3Brfnbr%3D3947&sref=rss">Victoria&#8217;s Secret</a>.</p>
<p>7. Non-traditional style idea: Wear a short-sleeved button-down shirt beneath a vest or even a t-shirt. (We&#8217;ve given up trying to wear anything but silky button-downs beneath full-sleeve sweaters &#8212; the static cling gets us every time.)</p>
<p>8. Non-traditional style idea, Part 2: Wear a camisole/tank top underneath the button-down shirt, tuck in the shirt, and only button it up halfway, so people can see the camisole beneath. See Allison Janey in West Wing.</p>
<p>9. Gaping: If your shirt is gaping, this could mean a few things. A) You need a larger size, and should take it to a tailor to get it to fit you the way you want it to. B) You need to wear a camisole beneath it, so when you turn to the side people don&#8217;t get a view of your bra. C) You can experiment with Hollywood Tape and so forth to keep it from gaping &#8212; we&#8217;ve found the camisole is just easier.</p>
<p>10. Beneath the white shirt: Wear a bra that matches your skin tone, and a white camisole, no matter how convinced you are that no one can see through it. We&#8217;ve tried the nude camisole, and trust is: white just looks better.</p>
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		<title>10 Things You Should Know about a Business Lunch</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[No, we're neither Debrett's nor Emily Post, but we know a thing or two about conducting ourselves properly at a lunch... we've also seen some truly bad manners.  Thus, whether you've been to a million or you're just starting out, 10 Things You Should Know...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p><a href="http://corporette.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/silverware21.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-46" style="margin: 10px; float: left;" title="silverware21" src="http://corporette.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/silverware21-150x150.jpg" alt="" width="150" height="150" /></a>No, we&#8217;re neither <a href="http://redirectingat.com?id=4505X645619&xs=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FDebretts-Etiquette-Girls-Fleur-Britten%2Fdp%2F1870520874%2Fref%3Dpd_bbs_sr_5%3Fie%3DUTF8%26amp%3Bs%3Dbooks%26amp%3Bqid%3D1211926841%26amp%3Bsr%3D8-5&sref=rss">Debrett&#8217;s</a> nor <a href="http://redirectingat.com?id=4505X645619&xs=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FEtiquette-Emily-Post%2Fdp%2F155709991X%2Fref%3Dpd_bbs_2%3Fie%3DUTF8%26amp%3Bs%3Dbooks%26amp%3Bqid%3D1211926874%26amp%3Bsr%3D1-2&sref=rss">Emily Post</a>, but we know a thing or two about conducting ourselves properly at a business lunch&#8230; we&#8217;ve also seen some truly bad manners.  Thus, whether you&#8217;ve been to a million business lunches or you&#8217;re just starting out, 10 Things You Should Know:</p>
<p>1. <strong>As soon as everyone at the table is seated, that napkin goes in your lap.</strong> If you need to get up at some point, the napkin should be folded and placed on your chair.  (Not the table &#8212; no one likes to look at a dirty napkin.)  At the very end of the meal, when everyone is finished eating, you should fold you napkin and put it beneath your plate, to the left.  This holds true even if you&#8217;re eating at a diner with paper napkins.</p>
<p>2. <strong>Your water glass is to your right.  Your bread dish is to your left. </strong>If you get confused, put your hands in your lap and touch the index finger of your left hand to your left thumb, and do the same with your right &#8212; your left hand should form a &#8220;b&#8221; (for BREAD) and your right hand should form a &#8220;d&#8221; (for DRINK). We&#8217;ve also heard to think &#8220;BMW&#8221;: bread, middle, water.</p>
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<p>3. If you are the host (or assisting the host, as it with many mid-level people), it&#8217;s good manners to <strong>make sure things are passed:</strong> butter, cream, salt &amp; pepper. Pass the salt &amp; pepper as a unit.  Even if someone only asks for salt.</p>
<p>4. If you&#8217;re confused about which silverware to use, <strong>use the piece of silverware farthest away from the plate</strong>.  When you&#8217;re done eating, the silverware should be laid on the plate diagonally in the upper-righthand corner, to signify to the waiter that you&#8217;re done.</p>
<p>5. <strong>Pay attention to what other people are ordering. </strong> Don&#8217;t be the girl on the diet who won&#8217;t have an appetizer even though everyone else is.  Also, don&#8217;t be that jerky guy to order an appetizer even though no one else did, and then sit there smacking your lips about how amazing the bisque is, when no one else GOT the bisque because we all thought it would be a nice, quick lunch.  (Not that we&#8217;re bitter or anything.)  It&#8217;s 100% acceptable to order an appetizer to start and an appetizer for the main entree &#8212; no one cares what you&#8217;re eating so long as you&#8217;re eating at the same time everyone else is.</p>
<p>6. <strong>When in doubt, cut your food with fork and knife.</strong> Huge piece of lettuce? Cut it.  The rule with fries is that if you&#8217;re eating the rest of your meal with a knife and fork, fries should also be eaten with the fork.  (E.g., steak frites.)  If you&#8217;re eating the rest of your meal with your hands, however, fries should be eaten with your hands.  (E.g., burger.)</p>
<p>7. Here&#8217;s the <strong>proper way to use a fork and knife</strong>, courtesy of <a href="http://redirectingat.com?id=4505X645619&xs=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.collegerecruiter.com%2Fcareer-counselors%2F2007%2F04%2Fyour_fork_is_not_a_shovel_busi.php&sref=rss" target="_blank">CollegeRecruiter.com</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>While there are several different ways to hold and use a knife and fork correctly, the most common method used in the United States is as follows:<br />
• When you eat, your fork is held in your right hand, like a pencil. (For all of your lefties out there, the fork is still held in the right hand.) The tines (your prongs on the fork) face up.<br />
• When you cut your food, switch hands. Fork goes in the left hand, knife goes in the right to cut. Using your index finger, point your fork with tines down to pierce your food.<br />
•	Switch the fork back in the right hand to eat.</p></blockquote>
<p>8. Proper etiquette is not always what you might think: olives with pits should be placed in your mouth, and the pit should be removed with your hand and laid on the side of your plate.  (Not hidden in your napkin or beneath your plate.) Asparagus is properly eaten with your hands, provided it is not covered in sauce.</p>
<p>9. <strong>Blackberries should be kept under the table at all times.</strong> You should excuse yourself from the table to use a cell phone.</p>
<p>10. All of the above goes out the window if the most senior person at the table is doing things differently.  Unless they&#8217;re the adorably-batty-head-of-the-company-in-name-only, follow them.</p>
<p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>Have more business etiquette questions? Write to editor@corporette.com and we&#8217;ll either a) answer &#8216;em, b) find someone who will, or c) do a poll.  Because we heart polls.  And etiquette.  And answers.  (In no particular order, clearly.)</strong></span></p>
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