turtlenecks

Today’s reader question brings up an interesting question, we think:  What should the “casual but professional” uniform be for women?  Here’s the reader’s question:

In a couple weeks I’ll be wrapping up my MFA and have to do a public reading.  Publishers and agents are known for showing up at these end of year readings, so it’s really important for us readers to sell ourselves.  I’ll be reading from my teen fantasy novel (sorry, no sparkly vampires), and am worried about not dressing right.  I don’t want to be creepy all black goth girl fantasy writer.  Or super corporate hack looking.  I don’t want to look too dressed up or too casual.  If I was a guy I’d wear a suit jacket, dark wash denim and an ironic t-shirt (the wardrobe staples of screenwriters).  How do women on the creative side of creative industries dress? And does the “slacker but I own a jacket” guy look have a counterpart in female fashion?  Should it?  Also, if it matters at all, I’m totally broke.

So this raises a few questions in our minds.  First:  Should there be an equivalent “uniform” for women?  Think about the button-down plus jeans look — you see it on everyone from heads of state to moguls.  It conveys a very specific message:  “I am real — and I am here to work.  And perhaps knock back a few after work.”  It’s a friendly, approachable, I’ve-let-my-hair-down-but-I’m-still-a-professional look.  For our $.02, we think there probably should a standard uniform for women  — after all, it’s a question of effectively communicating a message.  It’s one of the tricky things about having so many more wardrobe choices than men — when there is no uniform, it means the message we convey with our clothes is never quite as neat and unmistakable as it can be for men. Which can be a problem, because it means we might be mis-communicating.  A little black dress that, to us, looks professional, can be — to some men — flirty.  Body-grazing khakis and a twinset can seem too matronly.

So the question becomes — what is the equivalent uniform for women?  Are jeans and a blazer the correct look?  Is it the trouser jean?  Button-down or turtleneck?  What shoes? What accessories?  Readers, we’re really curious — what would you wear to a semi-work event if the guys in your team planned to wear jeans and a button down?

We have no answers, obviously.  The best we can do for our  reader the author (congratulations, btw — we hope you have a great reading!), though, is to come up with a series of factors to consider for semi-professional meetings.

  1. First:  Where is the event going to be held, and what will the majority of people be dressed in? Here, if the reading is in a place like a bookstore or coffee shop, you have to expect jeans and the like.  It might be different if it’s a more formal reading at a university.
  2. Second:  What is your context — why are you going to be there, and what are you trying to convey? The answer is going to be different if you’re the person reading the teenage fantasy novel, versus the agent trying to convince the writer that they should pay you 15% of their earnings, versus the DATE of the agent or reader.  For the author, here, we think you’re trying to convey a) that you are a great writer of saleable material,  b) that you are presentable and friendly at a reading, and can be approachable (and loved) by your audience, which, here, will be the teens (and their parents), and c) that you’re a trustworthy, responsible person who an agent or publisher can take a chance on and not expect headaches.  For a), we don’t think there’s anything wardrobe-specific of note.  To convey b), we would wear something that didn’t show too much of your figure or your cleavage — we’d also avoid a high-end look that might verge on looking snotty.  In terms of conveying c), it seems to really be more in your actions — your tone of voice, your professionalism, and your follow-up.
  3. Third:  What’s flattering and weather-appropriate? This goes back to a basic judgment call — you exercise poor judgment if you wear a tweed suit in July, or a 3-sizes-too-tight dress that rides up.

Ultimately, we’d probably suggest a pair of dark-wash jeans (no holes), a black shrunken blazer, and either a fitted black t-shirt or a fitted babydoll ironic tee.  You might want to roll up the sleeves to expose a watch (even if it’s just a large Swatch) — that might help convey to any potential agents/publishers there that you are professional), and go with jewelry that is as funky/creative as you’re comfortable with.  Oh, yes, and heels.  If you can, you might also want to look into getting some personal business cards printed — Vista Print can be very cheap; so can your local Kinkos — just your name, cell phone number, and e-mail address (and perhaps your degree and a website address) can go a long way towards seeming professional and helping you get to the next step.  This military blazer from Delia’s ($49.50, pictured) could be cute (Military Blazer); or the smocked jacket from White House|Black Market is marked to around the same price (Elysée Smocked Jacketicon, now $49.98 (was $150)); you may also want to check Urban Outfitters.

Readers, what are your thoughts?

(L-3)

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Women: Ultrafine turtleneck - modern redToday’s reader mail comes from reader E, who asks how one dresses up an ultrafine turtleneck…

The thought of wearing turtlenecks hasn’t crossed my mind since I was in high school, but then I saw the ultrafine turtlenecks being sold at Gap. I was wondering how one would go about creating an outfit or dressing it up for work.

We like to wear turtlenecks beneath things — it helps us stay warmer, raises the neckline of otherwise questionable items, serves as a protective barrier between us and the clothes (less drycleaning = good) and also lets us get more use out of items that would otherwise be limited to one season. (Pictured above: Women: Ultrafine turtleneck – modern red, available at Gap for $24 — J.Crew also makes some nice tissue turtlenecks.)  In terms of styling, we suggest wearing it beneath…

  • A short-sleeved jacket. Some manufacturers purposely make jackets intended for wear only in the summer.  Some hints:  those jackets are bright white, beige, or made from linen.  Other jackets, though, are intended not only for wear year-round, but are almost always intended to have a layer with long sleeves worn beneath them.
  • A 3/4-sleeved jacket. You may want to play with the visual of the two sleeves so close together by adding a bracelet or cuff, worn on top of the turtleneck’s sleeve, but below the jacket.
  • A dolman-sleeved dress, a batwing sweater, or a cowl neck. Some of these items are safe for work, but sometimes it feels as if the entire top will fall off your shoulders if you bend a certain way.  We like the turtleneck as a way to both protect against that happening, as well as to communicate to others that you have taken steps to prevent that from happening.
  • A cap-sleeved dress. This works particularly well with a color-on-color combination, or to raise the neckline of an otherwise low-cut dress.

We’ll keep thinking, but that’s what we have at the moment.  We will also mention (but can’t quite bring ourselves to recommend) the “turtleneck beneath the buttoned blouse” look that we seem to recall seeing in many early ’80s shows.  Readers, how do you wear turtlenecks beneath clothes?

Check out some other thin turtlenecks, below…


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