Frugal Friday’s Workwear Report: Tipped Short-Sleeve Ribbed Sweater
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This ribbed sweater from Nordstrom Rack has been hanging out in my shopping cart for a few weeks now, and after a rushed morning when I couldn’t think of a single thing to wear with my favorite navy skirt, I’m tempted to pull the trigger.
I love a short-sleeved sweater for summer, and this one comes in four other colors, each with contrasting tipping. The pictured ivory/navy combo is calling my name, but I also really like the pink/tan version.
The sweater is $24.97 at Nordstrom Rack and comes in sizes XXS-XXL.
For a plus-size option, try this sweater from CeCe; it's on sale for $20.65 at Dillard's and is available in 1X-3X.
Sales of note for 6/12/25:
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Tell me about your next trip! I’d love to live vicariously through you guys!
a week and a half in Sicily in September – really looking forward to the mix of food, scenery, history, and time on the water!
I would love to go to Sicily!
I leave for a week in the Outer Banks tomorrow and it can not come soon enough (even if I’m working for the first half of the week from there).
Not what you mean, but I’m about to leave for a conference where I’ll be sharing research I did and hosting a related panel for about 400 people. I am so darn excited I can’t stand it. It has been such a long slog—this is like the celebration at the end. I keep thinking how lucky I am to get to be able to do this.
That’s amazing!
Wonderful! Have a blast, I hope it is productive, rejuvenating, and comfortable all at once.
I’m taking my 14yo and 11yo on their first trip to Paris in one week! I am brushing up on my very rudimentary French and starting to pack for the trip. I have a basic itinerary sketched out, with advance tickets purchased for those things that I can/should. The real backstory is that I had planned a longer vacation to France (split between Provence and Paris) for the summer of 2020 as a celebration of my divorce in late 2019, and I am finally making part of that trip happen.
Enjoy! We just got back. It was much hotter than we thought it would be!
I’m in Paris now! Yes there been a crazy heat wave (it was 90+ today!) but it’s cooling down this coming week.
Two weeks split between Glacier, Yellowstone, and Mt. Rushmore in late August. I’ve been waiting 18 years for this trip!
Glacier is my favorite national park I’ve been to (so far)–it’s so pretty! Tip: if you’re going there first and happen to have a Costco membership, the Costco in Kalispell sells a 2 pack of bear spray for about the same price that most places sell one. (and seriously carry it with you in the park at all times. We saw so many bears in Glacier. Including a grizzly walking down the path just off a major parking lot/campground and a black bear eating huckleberries right next to our cabin).
Thank you – that is both amazing and scary!
My husband and I are going to bike from Niagara Falls to Rochester on the Erie Canal bike path over 4th of July weekend while our son is at sleepaway camp. Looking forward to it, albeit with mild trepidation as we haven’t exactly trained for long rides…
We are also doing a couple of canoe camping trips this summer, one on the James River in VA with my cousin and her family, and one on Middle and Lower Saranac Lake with our son’s scout troop.
This sounds so fun! My husband and I have been eyeing Tuscany biking trips (of the sort where someone puts your suitcase in a van and drops it off at the next hotel for you) for 10 years, but kids are currently in the way. I want to try a long domestic one first; Great Allegheny Passage is my first choice because it’s pretty local, but Niagra to Rochester is better weather in the summer. Enjoy!
We looked at GAP too; one good thing about the Erie Canal route is that we can stay in AirBnBs and/or hotels instead of having to camp, which means bringing less stuff. But I know there are bag transport services available for GAP (and maybe Erie too; I didn’t look into it). Hope you get to do it eventually!
4 days on Lake George and I cannot wait to just be in the lake
Aw, we did our first year anniversary at lake George! We still laugh at pictures of the boat we rented and the “fancy” dinner we had had the golf course.
Alaskan cruise with my nuclear family and extended family! I’m excited for my kiddo to get to know her relatives, especially my sister, in a low-stress way. Also, we may see whales.
Key West / Key Largo ?ish
over the 4th of July week. will be my first time, so top recommendations or off-the-beaten path ideas are welcome!
(though I understand because it’s such small land mass there aren’t many ‘paths’ to begin with!)
Prince Edward Island for a week in July- lots of beach time and a day in Charlottetown
Montreal with my family. The set of in-laws that isn’t crazy (I have two sets because of remarriage) is going to meet us there and we’re spending about a week.
We decided to forgo a vacation this year to save for a goal, so my next non-work trip is flying to my rising sophomore’s storybook college town to help her sort through and clean her stuff that’s in storage and move back into the dorm. The freshman move-in trip last summer was absolutely brutal because she was very upset about leaving home, so I’m looking forward to having a fun family experience this time.
Spending a week at our Tahoe cabin next month. Pure bliss. Cannot wait.
I’m going to Chincoteague, VA with another horse girl friend for the 100th anniversary of the pony roundup in July. People who were horse-obsessed as a child know it from the book Misty of Chincoteague.
Love this for you
I forced my parents to take me there on a family vacation based on those books – we missed the roundup but it was still insanely memorable! Have a fabulous time!
Extra long weekend in upper peninsula and mackinaw island. Leaving Wednesday and nothing booked yet. Guess what I’m doing this weekend?
Leaving for two week roadtrip in Norway at the end of the month. Lots of hiking, kayaking and sightseeing. Some digging into Viking history.
South Africa for safari and Cape Town.
How do you deal with a MIL who is consistently thoughtless, disrespectful, and selfish (yet beloved by the grandkids). I don’t even think she’s an enemy on purpose, I think it’s just the way she is. Signed, she just took my oldest to adopt a dog (agreed upon) but adopted two and told him one can be for his brother.
Oh man, I would think you were talking about my MIL, but I only have brothers in law and I suspect they’re not posting here…
Does she live with you? (What kind of rescue or shelter adopts out animals to adults who will be giving them away, or to children??)
Op here – or to a 76 year old woman?!?
Srsly — as a 31YO with a house with a fenced back yard, I was still rejected by a rescue. Maybe she went to a shelter? But still.
WHAT? No shelter near me would let adopted dogs go to anyone but the homeowner.
It might be an oversight on the shelters part. There’s no question on my local shelters form ‘is this adoption for you’ it’s just ‘do you have a fenced yard’ ‘have you previously owned a dog?’ ‘please provide a vet reference’. etc so it’s totally possible MIL filled out the form completely truthfully and was very careful not to mention that she wouldn’t be the dog’s caretaker when discussing the form with the staff.
You set way better boundaries. This is an insane breach of trust so now she doesn’t get unsupervised access to your kids ever.
Well, to start, you don’t let her do things as monumental as picking out a dog you’re going to be responsible for all by herself!
You know you MIL by now. I would never give her this kind of responsibility. Hell, I love my MIL and I wouldn’t let her pick out a pet for our kid.
This. There is no one I would trust to pick a new family member besides the ENTIRE family being there and agreeing. You need a lot of firm boundaries, whether she likes them or not. Don’t let her babysit, don’t let her cook, don’t let her do whatever it is that doesn’t work.
what the… what would happen in our house is that my husband would tell his mom that congrats, she has a dog now.
Yep.
*two dogs
Whoa, okay that story is wild. Tell your husband to address it. His family, his responsibility. (I sort of judge him because he hasn’t handled her thus far?)
Why would you let anyone else pick out even one dog for your family?
Not the point at all, but I wish we’d adopted two dogs at the start instead of one. This particular thing might be for the best. But otherwise no advice and that sucks!
This is where I land. Can you handle the extra puppy? I’m not sure this is a thing I’d back of out of principle alone–your kids won’t forget it and there’s a creature that needs adopting. But I’d also limit MIL’s decision making going forward.
Two dogs is one thing, but adopting two actual puppies at once is a situation that professional dog trainers don’t want to deal with themselves, let alone help someone else deal with.
This is wild. My husband’s sister once won a puppy in a bingo game at her elementary school! Well technically I think another kid won but wasn’t crazy enough to just take a puppy home without permission.
Omg this is so incredibly crazy of the school!
At the santa swap at church, one kid bought a fish. The limit was $20.
And here I am getting rejected by my local rescue because my fence isn’t good enough!
Paging OP…send your MIL out again for this poster haha
Joking of course
You admit to yourself that MIL’s feelings are not the most important thing on earth and there will be unavoidable conflict because she’s an a-hole.
Your spouse should be dealing with this themself, but if they won’t, you are well within your rights to make a giant scene here. If your children are old enough to be pseudo-responsible for a dog, they are old enough to process that grandma might be fun but she is also a loose cannon who can’t be taken at face value.
Op – thank you guys for validating my feelings!! My husband acts like it’s an inconvenience (he’s the one who ok’d this plan to begin with) and I’m overreacting. His mother has been like this his whole life so he just kind of shrugs.
Um no, it’s not normal for your MIL to take your kid to pick out a dog without the parents there, even with permission. Maybe a fish or a hamster, but not a dog!
I strongly recommend therapy. This is the kind of stuff divorces are made of–and it is deeply uncool that your husband saddles you with this crap. Don’t trust a man who has not instinct to protect your peace as his wife.
I would be livid. Only exception I could see is if the dogs were two bonded adult dogs that came with a really good story. But, you didn’t say that, so with you on livid.
My MIL is like this and I try to spend as little time with her as possible. Once my kids were teens, she lost interest in them because they had opinions and ideas and didn’t just go along with her nonsense.
Unless you really want the second dog, surely you can return them to the shelter?
Return the dog and tell them MIL abandoned it shortly after adopting it; she had no intention of keeping it…
I’m getting a job offer today and I’m a little nervous. It was through a really close network connection and the process went fast. The posted salary range was of course absurdly wide and I would only accept at the very top. At the screening with the recruiter where normally she would ask me what my expectations are, she said something like ‘ of course you know the salary on this has been going back and forth’ and told me about the bonus and equity which are programmatic to the job level. I’m a little worried it will be a low number and it will be awkward but also I think she made a mistake or there was something strange in that we have literally never talked about it. Curious what your advice is. Send good vibes!
Receive the offer and counter as necessary. Accept it you want it, decline if you don’t. The way the process began through a close connection is fairly immaterial at this stage. Don’t overthink it. Just make the choices that are right for you.
Agree with this! Treat it like anything else and don’t worry about the close connection.
sounds like the recruiter was kind of clueless about the range, like maybe the company was open to filling the role with a more junior or a more senior person depending on who interviewed, and was trying to talk their way past it?
I presume the hiring manager would have input into the offer with better intel!
Curious – how long have you been reading here, and do you remember what brought you here initially?
Since 2011 or so. A generic search like “what to wear for an interview” brought me here. Much of the advice back then hasn’t aged that well – if you ever read the comments on the posts that get updated/refreshed every few years, it was a completely different time.
I started about that time as well and what brought me here was a role transition where I wanted to up my work wardrobe.
Same time frame. I thought SO much about my work wardrobe back then!
Same year,
I was moving to London to study in a bussiness school and wanted to look the part.
Then, everyone was wearings jeans …
I’ve been reading since very early days (K was still anonymous). I was either about to graduate from law school or a new attorney. Still happy with having found a place to discuss any manner of things with similarly situated women – IRL I have friends at a mix of income levels and job types, or those that have become SAHMs over the years, so finding a community that you can hash out more senior career questions or what I would feel bad raising as a total ‘champagne problem’ to them? Still great.
Since 2009/2010 or there abouts. A frenamy suggested it. IANAL and never worked in a formal work environment, so it was an interesting break during the day.
I want to say hard-core reading, around 2016, but occasionally before that. I was referred by a regular poster on Makeupalley – it used to be my source for all things. Shout out to T– A– (S) if you are still around!
Since 2009/2010. A friend recommended it.
2009/2010. Also generic searching about what to wear in my first professional attired job led me here and to CapHillStyle. I was 25/26.
I’ll add, I was dating my now husband at the time I started reading. To this day I call it “my blog” – like when I’ve posted and actually received good advice, I’ll say “well on my blog I learned…” and it’s just an acceptable source of information (with discretion – yes, there is and always has been awful advice offered among the good advice…). He knows the general composition of who posts here and is open to hearing what kinds of things I learn on certain topics.
my husband will sometimes suggest that I ask “the committee” about something in reference to the comment section, lol!
Same with my husband. “Ask the corporetters what they think” is a valid source of advice in our house. He also reads it and will occasionally comment.
And to the original question, I’ve been reading since law school-2008 or 2009? Not sure how I found it originally, but it seemed like most of the women at my law school were reading it.
I sometimes pass along advice from “the lady blog.” My family knows what I’m talking about.
I’d say around 2008, possibly earlier. I don’t know when it started. I also discuss it with my husband and daughter.
Probably since 2015? That was my first “real” job.
2010ish? I’m an engineer and work in a heavily male area (less so now than 15 years ago). My co-workers are good people, but I was really lonely for daily interactions with other women. I also was having a lot of trouble navigating work-life as one of the few women. I think the first question I posted was asking the female equivalent of khaki pants and a polo shirt.
A long time. I believe it was launched as an affiliate of Above the Law and IIRC I navigated to this blog from that s!te in early days.
Same
Same. Around 2008/09 during the recession. ATL lead me here when I was a young BigLaw lawyer afraid of job loss during that time. I’ve posted under a few different names over the years.
2009/2010 or so. I feel like the general advice in the comments has evolved from “buckle down and put your big girl panties on, your job comes first” to “how dare your job interfere with your actual life, it’s OK to lean out”. I think it has do with evolving ideas around careerism in general, especially since Covid changed so many things, and also with the age/stage of the commentariat.
I also think the general demographic has aged, mostly with me. I remember a lot more boyfriend, getting married, and fertility questions in my early years here. And now there are more about teens and elder care and fewer about those topics.
Your comment made me recall all of the “TTC” posts!
I’ve been reading since 2009, when I started law school. My friend was/is a reader and recommended it for the comments, and I started reading. Didn’t comment myself until like… 2016?
Since 2011, after searching for ideas on how to dress for my first professional job.
Since like 2013? I was working as an admin to put myself through university and I had no idea how to do professional things. Now I have my own admin and realize I actually had more figured out than most.
Summer 2008, after my 1L year, perusing the internet over lunch at my internship. There was a link on ATL to an article about what to wear to work when you have to go in on the weekend. Funny that I still remember that pretty clearly!
Is mid 2000s possible? I feel like I was still reading columns by Maggie Mason and Paul Ford on The Morning News when I started lurking here, but I’m old enough that I may be conflating eras in my memory.
I think I started around 2007 or so, so probably? I came looking for work clothes and have been addicted to the comments ever since.
Okay that sounds about right to me!
Since about 2007, back when Kat was anonymous. I had just started as an associate in BigLaw and was looking for work wardrobe ideas. Perhaps I navigated to this site from Above the Law? It was right before/during the financial crisis so I was following all the layoffs on Above the Law.
I’ve received some great advice over the years and still value the comments.
Same – 2006/07 via Above The Law!
2008/2009 ish. I remember reading it in my undergrad college computer labs. No idea what brought me here; probably googling something about law school or professional clothing.
2014, because a friend recommended it for work style ideas.
It’s sad to see the flurry of Anons and loss of named commenters, even those who post under consistent pseudonyms.
Speaking of which – has Senior Attorney posted recently?
She has, from vacation! She said the time zones aren’t conducive to participating currently.
I’m a former named commenter who now goes by Anon. And for good reason, sadly.
Same here. I actually have had two names here and have attracted unwanted attention both times.
Same here.
Same same.
2010/2011. First biglaw job and found in a random search about what to wear if you’re busty. I’m older than that sounds since I started law school at 30.
2011, when I had to figure out how to “dress professionally for work.”
Since the days of the royal “we.” I think I heard about it in a list of blogs for lawyers.
2009 I think. I was just out of law school. Kat was still an anonymous “we” and still working. Neither of us had kids. I started because I saw a profile about the site (NYT, I think) and thought it sounded right up my alley. I go back and forth on that a lot for various reasons, but I guess I have stuck around.
Kat also started the Mom’s site right about the time I was really thinking about kids (and I think mine are about a year younger than hers), too, so I sort of feel like we grew up together!
~2011/12, a friend from college was in law school and sent me a link to a post here about some kind of fashion related thing. Read ever since.
I think I first heard about it from a NYT article, at a time when I was dealing with many problems and no real friends.
Around 2015 I think, in terms of regular reading, aka finding the comment section.
Maybe some occasional search hits before that. I remember when the suiting guide was introduced.
2008ish? 2009? I was in business school and needed to know what to wear for interviews/office attire.
Has anyone worked in-house for an insurer updating their policy forms? I’m a coverage nerd and would love to do this/am mulling applying for some postings in my area, but can’t imagine it’s 24/7 updating. What other aspects might there be?
is it actual medical policy decisionmaking or just paper pushing?
It might not be medical? To me this reads like someone with a passion for complex commercial insurance
true, but wouldn’t there be an analogy for other carriers? like there’s one group that makes the decisions about what’s covered, and then worker bees that review all the current policy templates and amend accordingly.
OP here. Correct–liability/property, not medical.
Just an in the weeds comment – construction wrap-up policies. The cross-suits exclusions routinely get deleted during the sales process, defeating the entire purpose of a wrap up.
Fix that and you’ll be my hero, OP!
The policy language in the fine print? These days maybe also an element of design/programming, also discussions of what information to capture and in what detail?
This isn’t a role with longevity. AI is moving into a lot of this area.
Work for a carrier (on your side) – this is absolutely a job
searching carriers/jobs anywhere in E&S will get you close to what I think you’re looking for (manuscripted forms where we can write things in or out of policies, not ISO copy&paste) Search listings with “Product or Form”. We also have an entire team of lawyers who review/work with these forms to see how coverage will shake out.
do a search for top domestic E&S carriers and you’ll find us here in the insurance back alleyways
In particular I think Ascot is a good place to work. I don’t work there but have friends who do.
How are you all getting connected to recruiters? How can you tell a real recruiter from a chatbot? I’m a mid-career lawyer, ready for a change. I joined linked*n a few months before resigning from a high-level government lawyer job. I occasionally get chats or texts that seem spammy (e.g., “Hi I’m Marcus, from XYZ recruiting, and your resume looks interesting. Would you like to learn more about a part-time, at-home, 6-figure opportunity? Click here!”). Obviously I do not click. But how do I get connected to actual recruiters with jobs that fit my skillset?
In my city, recruiters frequently go to bar association events. When I’ve been looking for a job in the past, I’ve reached out to some of these people that I know personally. You can also search for recruiting agencies in your city– most of them have some job postings on their site. You can apply and talk to a recruiter. Most of these recruiters are former practicing lawyers, rather than a 23 year-old HR person, so they can actually help you.
Once you are talking to a recruiter, they typically will keep reaching out if they have other job openings. My last job was unlisted. A recruiter who I’d been in touch with about another job connected me with the firm.
Many companies use internal recruiters who sometimes inadvertently write spammy messages like that because the recruiter is in their mid-20s… so some of these messages may actually be real unfortunately.
Ask your friends who have switched jobs if they used a recruiter.
Ask your friends who recently changed jobs who they used. Bonus, your friends may also forward on any jobs they hear about since so much legal hiring is done informally. My office line is also public, so I answer calls from recruiters, be friendly, play guess the job and pass on their info to my friends.
When I was looking, recruiters reached out to me and set up calls, so there had to be a real person there. I don’t think I had the chatbot experience. I do think chatbots are trying to sell me on candidates because I keep getting pinged with the same resume by different “people” every couple of days.
I have an update from my post yesterday about my horror that my aesthetician claimed I’d used racist language. They finally emailed me back today and specified what I’d said.
I used a Boston slang term for package store, which for some reason is what we call a liquor store. I don’t remember the conversation, but apparently I mentioned making a run to get something from the “p—ky” and they thought I was referring to the person who runs the store.
I responded to explain and apologise, but I’m still horrified and will probably never return even if they’d have me.
So… mystery solved and I guess a PSA for anyone else moving outside of Massachusetts.
I’m sorry this happened, but also that’s kind of hilarious.
Not from Boston and not a regular SNL viewer but even I’ve seen that “Jackie’s Packy” SNL episode. My mind goes there first and I grew up in NJ with a large Pakistani community.
Ditto. Regional language has lots of minefields! Anyway, whoops.
It does sound like something that would happen on a sitcom!
I’m stuck at the horrified-laughter phase.
I was so sure they’d mistaken me for someone else… but I’m glad I was humble instead of outraged in my initial email to ask for an explanation.
I had to look up the slur sound-alike b/c I’ve never heard it.
Sorry this happened to you, also feel bad for that owner if they are in a location where this is a common term. This reminds me of all the coffee beanery shops back in the 90s that had to change their names from puns about beans because it was construed as racist. It really wasn’t, it’s just two completely different words that were unfortunately identical.
Very obnoxious on their part. I’m so sorry.
I’m sorry this happened, and also, I’m cracking up because we also call them this in my recently adopted New England state, and I was so confused when I moved here and first heard it. Like, surely all these lovely people aren’t just casually throwing out that term…and then I figured it out haha.
TIL, thanks for the update!
Sorry to everyone in this situation! As my Boston in-laws would say… no sir! (pronounced “no suh” of course)
Native Bostonian. That’s hilarious and sad.
OMG. That’s not even an American racist slur–it’s British. As an American I would assume you were from Boston and were referring to the liquor store.
I’ve never heard it used in the way it’s used in the Northeast and I have heard it used as a slur. Definitely a regional thing!
Yeah, I’m familiar with the slur, but only in the British sense. I’ve never heard it said by an American. But I’ve also never heard anyone use that as a slang term for a liquor store, and I even went to college in New England with a lot of kids from Boston, where I only heard it called the state store.
I’ve never heard it in either context.
It’s used as a slur in the US too. I’ve heard it. But also I lived in Boston for a decade and am very familiar with the benign homophone so I lol-ed.
Omg! I know the term but I didn’t know it was used to describe people. I guess it’s a good psa.
I’m utterly confused. Can anyone explain to me like I’m 5? Or tell me what to search?
Not from Boston, but “ac” are the missing letters, I believe. Short for package liquor store and also a derogatory term for somebody from Pakistan.
It IS confusing, mostly because, as anon at 12.57 says, it’s a (mild-ish) slur in British, and regional slang in the US, so for someone to have the language skills to know the one and not the other, well, it would have to take place in just a few geographical areas. I think.
So the US one is slang for a package store, a place in some states where you buy liquor so the states can control taxation. So, short for “package” in this case rhymes with “khaki.” The British one is for people of Pakistani origin and sounds the same only has four letters. It too sometimes refers to a store, this time a corner store run by a person of said origin. (Please don’t @ me for saying “mild-ish”, I just meant it’s not the worst of the worst. I do study linguistics!)
Sorry if this is too explain-y; don’t know where you’re located.
It’s not really a mild slur in the UK either, it’s very clear and racist, there’s just a package deal of societal irony and self-deprecation surrounding the slurs.
I THINK she referred to going to a “packy,” which was interpreted as a slur against people from Pakistan.
For an example, the main character of Bend It Like Beckham gets called the slur during a match.
Oh, yes. Very close friend of mine is from Connecticut and it took me a little aback the first time I heard her use it — I’m from the mid-Atlantic and it definitely hit my ears as a derogatory term, or at least a disrespectful term.
Sorry that you got caught unawares, OP, but good on the place for not wanting Paki to be a word their employees hear from customers.
I need to buy a replacement spray mop. Like a Swiffer, but I’ve heard other brands like Boma are better. Which one is it the easiest to get refill solution for?
I think I have a Bona one, but I gave up on refills and just use a separate spray bottle. It is inevitable that my local store only carries the compatible containers for a short time, plus they involve so much unnecessary waste. Filling my own spray bottle is much less hassle.
I love my Bona.
I use a Bona bottled spray with a microfiber cloth on an old-school Swiffer.
Help me write a seemingly simple email?
There’s a job on linkedin that I am a fit for but not the obvious candidate. I know the hiring manager of this very small team as they are a current client (not a client of mine but definitely my firms, have had drinks/dinners together several times). Anywho… I’m going to email him directly and ask for a time to talk. The email would have to come from my work email. What do I write? I feel like “hey can we talk about your job posting?” is prob not appropriate. Is it… “I saw a post on linkedin and was wondering if you had some time to chat next week?” He’s so on the go I can’t say for certain if he’d notice a linkedin message (very unlikely he would tbh).
I’m over thinking it…. but help me? What am I saying to him?
Do you have this person’s phone number? In this situation, I’d just give them a phone call.
+1, this is a phone call from the start.
I would start with a LinkedIn message and see if he does respond. Since he posted there, he might pay attention. Then I would probably just use the script you have here, either via a personal email or in your work email if you must use that.
Or really, just call if the LinkedIn message doesn’t work. If he’s too busy, he’ll let it roll to VM and he can reach out on his schedule
If he posted the LinkedIn post, then yes to the LinkedIn message. But I read OP’s message to mean that she saw a LinkedIn job posting from the company. That’s different and not necessarily connected to the hiring manager’s profile, depending on who posted it.
That’s right. He did not post it. His very large, global company’s HR department did. He leads this very niche team out of my city (and my very office building in fact, on a diff floor). I don’t bump in to him randomly enough to try to time it. He’s just on the road so much. His LinkedIn is barely updated so I think there’s a negligible chance he uses it.
I could call. I usually call his direct reports when we do have things to work on together, or if I call him he has them call me back. It would almost certainly go right to VM. I doubt he has my number saved.
Play that out, though. What do I say in a VM? Do I say I saw the job and that’s why I’m calling?
Yes. Tell him exactly why you are calling.
I have done this and couched it as: I saw the posting and it piqued my interest. Would love to know more about the position to better determine if it’s a good fit and I should apply, can we chat about it?
That way you can also glean some context from him as to what he’s looking for in the team, but also sometimes you will learn that there’s a strong internal candidate and it’s not worth the effort.
Definitely do not hide that you want to talk about the job. This is a huuuuge pet peeve of mine, where I’m forced to go through the charade of a catch up or info interview only for someone to pitch themselves for a job out of left field that they’re not totally qualified for. Don’t do it.
I wouldn’t even ask to talk, I would send my resume and a brief pitch and say you plan on applying and would be happy to talk more. This is likely industry specific though.
As a kid, I can remember shopping at our local department stores (Bamberger’s and Epstein’s) and that they had “cruise” collections for people who take cruises over the holidays. I don’t think it was necessarily retirees, but the idea was that some people need warm weather clothes in the winter because they travel.
Now, I read Go Fug Yourself a lot and note that very high level designers have “resort” collections. Is just the cruise concept but for the highest end of the market (for going to their place in Capri)? The clothes are so beautiful and look like they are for people untroubled by the travails of the working world. Very, very aspirational.
For people who like the designer resortwear vibe but are still definitely office workers who’d just like a fancy night out for a spendy c*cktail, what’s a good place to look? I see far too much clubwear or sloppy summer clothes in stores and not much in between.
Take a sweep through the dress section of Bloomingdales’ website, identify some brands, and then deep dive in their collections.
Someone here recommended Aerin once. I haven’t purchased any of their clothing (out of my budget and my lifestyle) but I think their stuff is so beautiful. I wish my life fit the aesthetic!
Club Monaco?
At lower price points, both Talbots and Target do resort collections.
This is the sort of thing I can find at a few local boutique-type clothing stores in my town.
Shop secondhand.
fancy lady consignment stores too!
Resort wear still exists, it’s just very specific to winter, generally January. Pay attention the next time Ann Taylor or a nicer department store puts out caftans or sweaters with shorts when there’s 6″ of snow on the ground. You won’t find resort wear in June because there’s no call for it; everyone’s on the Vineyard or in Maine and wearing vintage LL Bean and designer linen and they don’t need tropical clothing. This is the season Vineyard Vines was made for.
I can’t speak to the quality, but I’m mildly obsessed with some of these kaftans: https://www.blackbeads.co/collections/kaftan-collection
What kind of style do you want? I feel like resort is sometimes tropical, sometimes Southern European, sometimes bohemian and sometimes preppy. If you have a desired style we might be more helpful.
My wardobe app has a fifth season called “resort”. I use it to tag all my vintage and secondhand clothes.
Update from my summer anatomy class. Had my first test and I’m squeaking by with a very low A. But now we are up to bones of the skull and face (ha to me for thinking it was a just a skull, like a one-piece thing). Thoughts and prayers. Also, it was very creepy to me, but the baby head xray shows two full rows of teeth and IDK why this isn’t yet in a horror movie.
My dentist’s office offers up its walls as a gallery to local artists hoping to sell pieces. Some artists are better than others. I remember one gothy memento mori that morbidly displayed a baby skull in some natural setting, about which I could have said a lot of things. But what the dentist had to say was that it was factually inaccurate because a real baby skull would have all those teeth lined up, and he seemed pretty worked up about it because he went into extensive detail about all the other errors in the portrayal of the teeth. A lot of dentists I’ve known have come across as painfully normal in their appearance, hobbies, neighborhoods, etc., and it was the first time I wondered if that’s partly compensation for just how creepily much they know and think about human teeth,
My current dentist is literally the only normal person who happened to be a dentist I’ve ever met. I really hate small talk so I tend to ask more interesting questions and this is how I realized all dentists are off, except my current one bless her and her cat.
I think this is what I was missing all these years when I let them do their small talk about something neighborly or churchy or sportsy or otherwise local TV morning show appropriate!
I know a family where 2/3 first cousins are dentists and all 3 are married to dentists. I always feel nervous about eating dessert at their parties.
During my undergrad my anthropology professor and I agreed that “bone people can be kinda weird,” and I consider dentists bone people.
(now you know how I chose my username!)
A low A is not squeaking by.
OP here and I will put it this way — since this is the end of the quarter and work is ticking up as people roll off for vacations, I think that I am peaking early. We’ll see where I finish, but it has been a mad deliberate scramble so far and my time will get even further pinched with material that is new to me. [I’m that brat who is used to things coming easily or being able to grind it out and there’s no time left to grind like I’d need to.] My classmates are all very friendly and also in a similar boat — either working FT or PT or taking other summer classes.
I know what she means–she worked her butt off and barely came out with an A. Definitely feels like squeaking by when you are used to work = easy A.
OP, well done! Keep it up!
When I took a similar class, I used an anatomy coloring book to help me learn all the bones and bone landmarks. Good luck!
Cool tip!
Maybe too late to post this but does anyone have a list of things they do over the summer to get ready for the holidays? I like to say I’m a type a minus person. I always feel like the winter holidays sneak up on me and I’m out of time money, patience and I’m scrambling; cursing my lazy summer self for not planning ahead. But here I am doing zilch and dripping with anxiety because it seems so huge and I don’t know where to start. Any strategies? Besides therapy and lower standards?
I always shop for my mom during the summer Nordstrom anniversary sale. I get everything finished for her and keep the presents in a bag in the closet. My dad likes to read, so I look up books that are coming out between now and the holidays (he never buys himself books so I don’t have to worry about accidentally getting him something he’ll already own). I keep a note in the notes app of my phone that lists what I’m getting for everyone, add to it when I have ideas, and check items off when I buy them.
This probably won’t help you now, but a related thing I like to do is make a note for myself at the end of a holiday season for the start of the holidays next year. Things like “new ornament box” or “that 2008 Barbie ornament needs her head glued on.” I’ve done it 2-3 years now and it’s helpful. For now I’d just start a phone note with things as you think of them.
I start holiday shopping in January. (It is great right now because it beat some of the price hikes associated with the tariffs.) I generally pick out and finalize my holiday menus over the summer while laying on the beach, and I make decisions about holiday decorating around that time, too. I try to have as much planning before autumn as possible, because I like to focus on the fall season without distraction.
Can you get specific on what you run out of time, money, and patience for, and then do some solving for those specific rubbing points? For example, setting reminders on your calendar for when to start thinking about or doing different things,
Absolutely nothing. All our family birthdays fall in summer; I focus on those in the summer (starting about a week in advance). We just don’t do huge gifts, unless there is a special item that makes itself known (like gear for a new hobby or upcoming event). Otherwise our gifts are plain, boring cash.
God no. Why. The holidays don’t need to take up the entire year.
agreed, as someone who LOVES Christmas. It’s not supposed to stress you months in advance.
I get started around Black Friday. You’re not late. Calm down.
I do not plan for the holidays. I buy gifts in December. If I am cooking for Thanksgiving, which is almost never, I buy food in November. I do not value holiday traditions that require work or the purchase and display of decorations. That is not a “holiday” to me, it is extra work.
Uh, does booking a vacation for the week after Christmas count? Otherwise, absolutely nothing.