Thursday’s Workwear Report: Editor Pants

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A woman wearing a dark orange high waist flare trouser pants

Our daily workwear reports suggest one piece of work-appropriate attire in a range of prices.

In my opinion, the Express editor pants should be in the Smithsonian right next to Dorothy’s ruby slippers. (Somehow, in the early aughts, a pair of black editor flares was appropriate for both job interviews and frat parties. I don’t know how, but I promise it worked.)

This high-waisted version comes in eight great colors, but the “amber” colorway was really calling my name this October. I’d resist wearing it with black to avoid the jack-o-lantern vibes, but I think it would pair beautifully with ivory, camel, chocolate, or navy. 

The pants are $88 at Express and come in sizes 0-16, 0L-16L, and 0S-16S. 

Sales of note for 10/9

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  1. I went to a finance conference this week and am recommitting myself to dressing like an adult in finance. Not an art teacher (vaguely bohemian, too much black, was and wear because stains happen), which I clearly am not.

    I also saw a lot of random print dresses with a suiting blazer (usually black) thrown over and it worked. It has never seemed to work for me but something’s about the dresses (generally midi) and picking up a color in the print made it look good this time. Maybe I will experiment at home and see if I can’t recreate.

    1. Yes I hear this. I’ve been dressing increasingly like a recently gerbil forced out of its cage and like why? I love my job. My fall/winter project is getting back to taking the ten extra minutes to look nice instead of just acceptable

    2. Ooh, any dresses that you’re eyeing? I’m returning to the office in the financial district of my city and I need some updates.

      1. The Ted Baker on here the other day is the exact right style. Not the OP but she’s describing my signature look these days. I also pair with flat riding boots now that it’s starting to rain again.

      2. I have an MMLF Sarah dress that is sized to fit my pooch / hips and generally baggy elsewhere and it looks OK (maybe even good) under an tweedy jacket (very old).

    3. I’ve had luck with the boden “amelie” jersey style midi dresses and a black blazer. I do struggle a little with the shoes though, since it seems like a top-heavy style, I like to wear it more in the winter when I can do tights and boots on the bottom to balance it out.

        1. I tend to default to black since it’s easy to match and I’m in a conservative field, but I also have grey and navy tights as well. Similar to the above poster I also have dark brown flat riding boots I wear for longer (but not maxi) dresses, no tights necessary.

        2. A good solution is to wear knee-high boots, and (broadly) match your tights to your boots (e.g., brown tights with brown boots). You don’t need to worry too much about a good match because the tights won’t really be seen.

  2. For men’s button up shirts, some have a pair of back center pleats and some have pleats closer to the shoulders. Then some have no pleats. Is there a right or more formal type? Also, at no time should the fabric pull across the back? Like trim fit isn’t straining, but too puffy is actually too big? Trying to assist with spouse, who doesn’t regularly wear them and has changed size since he shopped last.

    1. I think shirts with pleats, wherever located, are slightly more “office” than a shirt with no pleats. Just like pleated pants, it’s a detail, not a function – they should hang roughly straight down, not used to provide extra volume. Trim fit should provide enough room to comfortably wear an undershirt underneath with no straining.

      For some reason, no pleats always look to me like it’s 2003 and it’s that particular stretch fabric that was used for shirts that were actually clubwear, so meant to fit tight on a buff torso. But that could just be me!

        1. Heh. For me pleats = man who has bought his own grill and no pleats = man who buys his own underwear.

          For me, the gym bro wears shirts with stretch fabric.

    2. The yoke is supposed to fit the shoulders, not strain or puff out.

      If there are pleats below the yoke, those are for comfort and ease, either for movement or bodytype. Have him move his arms to check ease.

      I think a shirt with more ease will read as more casual, or more American. You would not expect a UK formal shirt to have pleats, but a casual one might.

    1. Back in the day, I swear these had a scandalously low rise and they were always paired with a high rise thong. Layering tees ran really long for a good reason.

      1. I literally explained this to a 20-something stylist this past weekend who was shocked when I told her that yes, we really did wear pants with like 3inch zippers. The long tank layered underneath our tops served a vital purpose!

  3. Are field jackets still trendy or passably classic? I have an olive green field jacket that I love (in part for the pockets when I’m with my kids!) but I keep reaching for my quilted barn jacket this fall because I can’t figure out how to style the field jacket with wider jean leg profiles. The barn jacket has different texture than jeans, unlike my cotton field jacket, so it seems easier to pair.

      1. +1. My Barbour is almost a decade old at this point and still looks brand new. I fully expect to have it until I outgrow it or my daughter ‘borrows’ it and it goes to college….and she’s 12.

    1. I don’t think field jackets are ever “out” but they are no longer trendy – just take a casual spin through ThredUp JCrew coats, since their field jacket was one that was pretty ubiquitous, to see there are approximately 700 of them for resale. You’re right though that just like tops, different jackets look best with different shapes of bottoms.

    2. I actually think they are still pretty on trend (old navy has one which is sort of an indicator) but the cut fluctuates. like the one they are showing is sort of short and full as opposed to longer. i bought one and intend to wear it when i’m helicoptering my college student next weekend at parent’s weekend (last part is sarcasm towards the post from tuesday)

    3. I’m a pretty focused on trends type and I think there’s a lot of leeway in jackets generally. People keep them longer and the styles that are new cycle around fast. There’s also something cool about a unique or vintage coat (not what we’re talking about but hits the narrative). The TL/DR, barn jackets are perfectly fine.

      1. Ha! I did not understand the hate on those. Those weekends are pretty well choreographed: maybe parent + kids attend a sportsball game, maybe they have dinner after. That’s like an afternoon? IDK that I see parents at fraternity parties and they only seem to go to plays or concerts if their kid is in it. Most colleges give parent tours (for parents) and otherwise have some programming, but it’s not a Mommy & Me activity. Maybe you take your kid to Target for reinforcements on various items (especially if the kid doesn’t have a car). But most parents are working age and not able to take long weekends and make an exception for this in their schedule (and often one parent stays home with any younger siblings, especially if they aren’t local or close-ish). Sheesh. As a working adult, I live near 4 colleges and truly love the vibe and energy they give off and am grateful to have that in my city. I didn’t go to any of these places and don’t work there. Red brick makes me happy, especially in the fall.

  4. What is something that you’re really good at and something you’re really bad at but don’t care or don’t care enough to improve it?

    I’m a really great friend. I am terrible at all things artistic or visual like actually trying to do anything artistic or what seems adjacent to me like decorating, landscaping, or fashion.

      1. I care a LOT about algebra. It is so beautiful! But I am also artistic and really like showing my work in a way that makes it visually appealing and self-explanatory. I color code my Excel sheets to help people understand what is going on.

    1. I am awful at any type of sport that requires hand eye coordination, or that requires me to remember and execute a series of movements (dance, cheer, gymnastics). As an adult I’ve learned this is a combination of dyscalculia (wild!) and binocular vision disorder. I am treating the BVD as it impacts my migraines too but I’m very comfortable with not being sporty.
      I’m a very good home cook/baker in that I can cook just about anything as long as I have the time/ingredients/instructions. I enjoy hosting dinner parties/cookie swaps and I will always make food for people who are sick/new parents/new neighbors/or just cause I have extra cookies.

    2. I’m really good at a lot of visual things — decorating, landscaping, gardening, composing a good photo, etc. But I absolutely CANNOT do any kind of yarn craft or embroidery. It’s like I have three thumbs or something.

    3. I’m good at getting to medium good at a lot of things pretty fast. Advancing to very good is another issue.

      Balance was kind of my super power. As I age, it’s a little less so, but I think still pretty good. I also have extremely sturdy ankles and have never injured one, even when I took a misstep off a curb and broke the heel off my shoe.

      I’m very bad at cooking rice and if I want rice, I will just buy the stuff that comes in packets that you microwave for 90 seconds. I know that people cook delicious rice in a pot over a fire, but I just cannot make good rice. Almost any other grain, I can cook, but not rice. And I have no interest in learning.

      1. I assume you have tried this, but a rice cooker is my solution to my complete inability to cook rice properly on the stovetop.

        1. I tried a rice cooker a while ago and still got crap rice out of it. Of course, it was a pretty cheap rice cooker. Right now, I don’t really have room for a rice cooker in my small kitchen, so microwave rice it is!

    4. I have really good color vision – can differentiate between very similar shades, etc. Not really a skill but I still claim it.
      I am hopeless at video games. I never played growing up so I think those specific hand-eye-brain connections just never … connected.

      1. I did not realize until I was rennovating my home how many people can’t see the undertones in colors/metals. My husband thought I was insane when I insisted that chrome and nickel had different undertones and we needed to match whichever we chose to the paint (cool with cool, warm with warm) until the showroom designer backed me up.

      2. If you haven’t already, you should try the game I Love Hue (a phone game, not video) – it’s all about differences between color shades. I am bad at it, you would love it.

    5. I’m really good at skiing, especially considering I don’t get to go often. I have the balance, coordination, and bravery for it.

      I’m really bad at mental math on the spot.

    6. I cannot make a decent pancake to save my life. Neither can my husband, oddly enough. I can otherwise bake pretty well and make cookies and cakes from scratch often enough, but the simple pancake has me defeated.

      I’m also not in the least bit musical. I don’t even really hear song lyrics or the individual instruments in a song, it’s just general pleasant noise that is in the background of my consciousness. Reading the reviews of the new Taylor Swift album are like reading a foreign language to me.

      1. Same about the pancakes! I used to be able to make them, then all of a sudden I couldn’t. I tried mixes, I tried from scratch, and the batter would never thicken enough to make the pancakes.

        I can bake almost anything else and have turned out respectable crumpets and yeast breads, but I think I was cursed by some kind of kitchen witch and can no longer make pancakes.

    7. I’m really good at public speaking, and I’m good at entertaining. I’m terrible at anything having to do with the visual arts — painting, drawing, ceramics. Although strangely I’m good at home design/decor.

    8. I’m actually a good cook but I almost try never to do anything in the kitchen because then my spouse will stop doing the cooking.

  5. Any Americans here who have done undergrad in the UK or Ireland? Kiddo seems to be very bummed that she is as likely to get into state flagship as she is to be rejected, so has come up with studying abroad for all of undergrad as a possible fallback. All I know right now is that it’s incredibly test-based to apply (like you need 3 AP 5s by end of junior year to apply and you apply to a program vs a school). Is there a good website to go to learn more? Her school isn’t really helpful — they seem to be happy you aren’t pregnant or smoking weed. IDK how realistic this is for us (starting with budget and timing) but will at least indulge her from clicking around over lunch today.

    1. McGill in Montreal was a popular choice for smart kids when I was applying to colleges. Must like winter, though.

      1. McGill is one of the best schools in the WORLD if OPs daughter can’t get into state flagship she can’t get into McGill

        1. I think in many states, you may have 100 girls with a 4.0 in a big suburban school and 25 boys and they will take 25 girls and all of the boys. It’s not fair, but it is what it is. Those 75 girls will go on to great things somewhere else that will be fortunate to have them.

        2. McGill is a good school but the acceptance rate is 46% so it’s nowhere near as selective as the Ivies and similar schools.

          1. My understanding is that McGill has a GPA cutoff and an SAT cutoff that are high but not unreasonably high for most undergrad degrees. No essays, no recommendations, I don’t think they look at extracurriculars. That’s appealing for kids (including mine) who feel like *everybody* who wants to attend state flagships cured cancer in their school club and got a 1600. It’s way more $$$ for international students than it used to be, unfortunately.

          2. Yeah McGill has cutoffs, but the vast majority of elite US college applicants meet those cutoffs. Sure, there are some wildly unqualified people who throw an application Harvard’s way hoping it will stick but most of the 96% getting rejected have the baseline GPA and test scores and just don’t stand out.

          3. I think it’s appealing because it seems less random than US schools, plus you don’t have to market your trauma in a personal essay or talk about “leadership” in an activity that you mostly joined to hang out with friends. Test scores and grades aren’t without biases or systemic problems, but the holistic system has issues as well.

          4. Yes, totally! As someone who had perfect grades and excellent test scores, but was weak on extracurriculars and teacher recs, I’m kind of surprised I didn’t apply internationally. I guess my parents maybe weren’t really aware of this, and my random Midwest public high school counselors definitely weren’t aware.

      2. And speak French at least competently. I’ve found that people in Quebec are even more resistant to speaking English than people in France.

        1. I went to McGill. Unless you’re doing law, there is no need to speak French at all, and everyone in Montreal speaks English just fine, it’s not rural Quebec. There were a lot of Americans in my undergrad. It was a good experience, would recommend!

    2. my daughter has a good friend who is St Andrews in Scotland. there is a big american community there. I don’t exactly know what you mean about test based but this girl did not have tremendous scores and didn’t have three AP 5s by the end of her junior year. I would recommend finding the parent facebook boards for the schools… i’m sure they exist.

      i also have a very good friend whose daughter is at McGill. i will say of both those schools that my understanding is that there is a lot less handholding than american kids have come to expect. like kids don’t live on campus, less meal plans etc.

      1. +1 to this. I studied abroad for a year way back in the aughts and was shocked at the amount of college kids who struggled with finding apartments, paying bills, grocery shopping, etc. on their own (and the university helped find you real estate brokers!). It can be great for the right kid but a big culture shock for others.

        1. Yeah, I work at a more campus based university with decent on campus/university-owned housing, but city-based universities are tougher.

          1. I thought in the UK you normally lived on campus for your first year? There’s a big difference between never having campus housing and only having it for your first year.
            I think for most people your first of college is usually the year when you have the single biggest leap in maturity – at least that was the case for me.

    3. One thing to consider if you have a 529 is that many foreign schools are not considered eligible for using 529 funds toward tuition. I believe the DOE has a list.

    4. I think it would be really easy to get into a very good university in the UK, as a fee-paying American. Post a burner email and I’d be happy to share thoughts, gossip (there are some unis on bankruptcy watch), programmes, etc. We’ve seen increasing number of American students doing their whole degree – they have a great time and it is significantly cheaper than the US.

      Source – an American academic in the UK.

    5. Comment in mod, but if you have a 529 many foreign schools aren’t eligible.

      I attended an American university for undergrad, but later worked at a French university and it’s definitely true that there’s way less hand holding. Campus facilities and dorms tend to be much more spartan as well.

      1. I feel like if you are a generic kid who gets a major in biology or history and just wants grad school or med school or law school, it’s fine (for med school: take the pre-reqs). Otherwise, if you need a license, like for CPA or nursing, IDK.

        1. Yes you will do fine applying to grad/law/med school in the US coming from an international university as a US citizen.

      2. I think it can work. I know several people who attended school in Canada or the UK and then came back. They were mostly rich and not that bright so I don’t think of it as a universal path, but it’s not uncommon to go abroad for college and return.

        1. I’m the person above who went to McGill. A lot of my American friends did their undergrad in Canada but then went back to the US for grad school and got jobs in the US without any issues.

    6. My son applied to St. Andrews and Oxford. St. Andrews mirrors the US curriculum and application process more than Oxford. And Oxford does require the 3 APs and high SAT scores, plus a whole separate personal essay which is quite different from how it is done for US. And a separate test. Then if you are short listed you have an interview with some of the top scholars. It was a ton of work and while he was shortlisted he did not make the final cut. St. Andrews only requires Common App. I’d say go for St. Andrews.

      1. I applied to Cambridge and got to go for an interview – I was sadly not selected but it was a cool experience and I’m happy I did it.

          1. I’m a different anon, but my parent paid for all our travel expenses for the interview.

    7. Not OP but this thread has been very interesting! My kid is younger but convinced she wants to go to college in the UK after a vacation there and I really regret not studying abroad there, so I’m happy to encourage her daydreaming. Thank you everyone for your comments.

  6. Can someone pls link to some flat or tiny-height heeled boots for narrow calves? Budget not important at this point. Can either be black or tan, as I think I could get a lot of use out of both.

    Is something like the Penelope Chilvers riding boot current? Current but too casual for workwear (TBH, office is casual, but I like not buying new items unless they can work in a more formal look also). Aquitalia?

  7. The ‘editor’ tool in word just advised me not to use ‘logistics’ in a professional document as it might not be familiar to all readers. I’m a lawyer, writing to other lawyers. This is insane, why is AI trying to make us stupider?!? (rhetorical question, I know the answer there but argh).

    1. I identify strongly with the meme claiming that it isn’t artificial intelligence so much as it is genuine stupidity.

    2. I just got a useless pop up in the corner of my computer screen from Copilot (which I do not use and did not ask for!!) inviting me to see how I can make projects more efficient, or something. Thanks for the distraction and breaking my focus! Ugh.

      1. My teen showed me a meme that said something to the effect of ‘Hey co-pilot can you fix the formatting issues in this word doc? Sorry boss, best I can do is an incorrect summary of the meeting notes!’.

    3. I still giggle about the time in college when I was writing an essay about Antigone and auto-correct kept switching it to “anti-gun”.

  8. I hate December. I’m staring it down, with a full calendar of work (new job so no leave to take, thanks DOGE /S), loads of commitments and stuff I have to do to be an NPC in everyone else’s life. All I want to do is hide the entire month. It’s only October and I know it’ll get worse between now and then. Holiday spirit my ass.

    1. I cannot recommend opting out highly enough for holiday stuff you don’t enjoy. Last year I skipped sending out cards, doing outdoor decor, cookie parties, and we got the tree up like a week before Christmas. I only cooked Christmas Eve dinner and forced my extended family to bring dishes to Thanksgiving vs. me cooking everything. It gave me some breathing room during a tough time and my kids/spouse still enjoyed the holidays (hell, they enjoyed them more because mom wasn’t a seething ball of resentment!).

      1. +1 we’re Jewish, so it’s a bit more low key but this is my strategy too. I’ve opted out of holiday cards the lsat few years (we used to do New Year’s ones) – we barely get any and it’s a LOT of work. We don’t really decorate and we don’t cook a fancy meal. We do host Hanukkah parties, because it’s really important to my kid, and those seem to be expanding every year (this year we’re hosting two separate ones for different friend groups) but I try to frame it as more of a kid social obligation than a holiday obligation.

        We do a lot of the fun holiday stuff – ice skating, holiday lights displays, hot cocoa + movie nights, local holiday events, cookie baking – but only when it sounds fun to me because I’m the adult orchestrating it.

      2. Yes, years ago I decided that everything for the holidays is optional. I do only what I want. Some years it’s a lot, some years it’s almost nothing.

    2. I understand, particularly the part about being an NPC in everyone else’s life during the holidays. I had the idea to cut out the unimportant stuff one year. I asked DH and DS what holiday events or traditions were most important to them. There was no overlap between the 3 of us, and virtually everything stayed on the list.

      My coping mechanism is that in December, I lean out of things that require energy (even things I enjoy 11 months out of the year), and I watch all the terrible Christmas movies on Netflix.

      1. If anyone ever asked me what I’d like to do during the season, it would be to get on a plane and go away to somewhere quiet, anonymous and with no “special” holiday stuff going on. If anyone knows a place like that, let me know.

        1. I wonder if you could go somewhere like Thailand and experience minimal holiday stuff?

          I like the holiday stuff, but I find it exhausting to be the magic-maker for everyone else and to run around to various events with each branch of our extended family. I want to stay home, make hot chocolate and cookies, and watch Christmas movies with my husband and son.

        2. Any Muslim country (Turkey, Morocco etc) won’t make a big deal of Christmas. It’s not a big deal in Asia in general either, at least not compared to Europe/N America.

    3. Same. I’m hoping my insane MIL froze the complicated dessert I made for her birthday so she won’t bother me about making more of it for Christmas.

  9. Went to Brooks Brothers yesterday and was sad to learn they no longer carry petites. BUT, apparently, they are now doing custom suits for women in some of their stores so that’s neat! I think we have lamented here more than once about how it’s too bad that’s not usually an option offered for women so glad to see BB is doing it. Prices are supposed to be in line with their men’s suiting but I didn’t get specifics as the shop I went to didn’t offer it “yet.”

    1. Petite sizing has become so hard to find in anything but polyester. Clothing manufacturers are missing that the average height for a woman in the US is 5’4” which means that a whole lot of us are shorter than that. This is my biggest annoyance with some of the supposed size inclusivity of the past several years. Even the websites that show a variety of sizes seem to only feature models who are 5’8” or taller.

      1. Ugh this. My annoyance is that some retailers have petite pants but not petite tops. So you acknowledge I exist but think I should just have poorly fitting shirts I guess?

    2. I was talking to the sales guy at my Brooks Brothers about this last month when I was returning something and lamenting how hard it is to find work pants that fit and the lack of women’s suiting in general–they’re supposed to start offering it in my store this month, and I’m definitely going to try it.

      1. Please report back!

        The clerk at the BB I visited said the customer feedback to not offering petites anymore has been universally negative and they are providing said feedback to headquarters.

        FWIW, I have been seeing more women’s suiting lately because it seems to be trendy. Not all of it is meant for a conservative workplace but Zara, etc., have had some good finds.

    3. Men’s custom suiting shops Indochino and Suit Supply also now make women’s custom suits. I haven’t done it myself, but my husband buys custom suits from both those places and has been very happy (he likes Indochino slightly more than Suit Supply).
      Who knows when I’ll need a suit again, but if I do, I’ll likely try there as I have a very challenging body for blazers (very large bust).
      Side note, Indochino also makes custom wool winter coats!

  10. Give me your best tips for body oil stains on silk.

    I have a jewel tone silk shirt that has darkened around the neckline, I think from sweat and body oil. I didn’t notice right away due to the dark color and sheen, so it is probably an accumulation over years. I’ve tried regular detergent and a long soak with improvement. I’m ready to try something harsh, even at the risk of damaging the item since it has gotten lots of wear.

    1. Dishsoap applied straight to the greasy spot, rub it in, maybe even scrub it with an old toothbrush to really work it in there. Let it sit, and rinse until not more suds with the hottest water you and the fabric can handle. Let it air dry, repeat if necessary.

      For bad body oil stains, I sometimes need to do this three times over before they are really clean again. If I am patient, it does make my silk tops look like new. I also find it easier to just apply a little dishsoap directly to that area each time I wash to keep it from building up again.

  11. How are you all storing thin sweaters? I am folding them and putting them on a shelf in my closet, but they get wrinkly and every time I grab one from the bottom of the stack, it all turns into a giant mess. I do not have drawer space, unfortunately. I’m getting very tired of steaming my sweaters before work so they look presentable.

    1. Come at me all you want, but I put mine on hangers. I use petite ones, so the shoulders don’t get poked out.

      1. Same. Folding just leads to an accidental avalanche when I am rushing to get out the door and running late.

    2. Folded and in a plastic Sterilite sweater bin. When I want one from the bottom, I flip the pile, take it out, then flip the pile neatly back into the bin and replace the lid. After I wash them, I neaten up the pile if needed when I put the clean ones back in the bin. It keeps them from snagging on the wire shelving and also prevents the pile from slumping over if uncontained on the shelf.

        1. Bonus: the bin makes swapping seasons really easy and helps keeps dust and moths at bay. Mine are clear so I can see which sweaters are in which bin easily.

    3. I store folded on a shelf with a piece of cardboard under each. The cardboard lets me pull from the middle without mess. I keep a pillow case in the very thin ones to help prevent the wrinkles from folding.

    4. I’ve started steaming/ironing a bunch of clothing on Sunday and then storing on padded hangers. I usually do this while talking with my mom/sister and it takes me maybe ~30 minutes to do 6 tops. In between, they all live in a stack in my closet shelves.

    5. I do Marie Kondo style folds and keep them in a canvas shelf bin turned on its side on a shelf, so I can see everything that is in it.

    6. I am here without suggestions but to lament the days of yore when sweaters were of a quality that they didn’t have to be treated like they were a linen shirt.

      1. This thread is really surprising me. Admittedly, I’m not the most crisp/pristine, but I try to stick with merino or silk sweaters and find that any folds drop out pretty quickly from my body heat. I’ve never steamed a sweater.

    7. We had (have?) a moth Situation, so I have taken to storing thin wool and cashmere sweaters folded in a hopefully moth-proof fabric box on the floor of my closet, as I am out of shelf space. Otherwise, I would probably hang them; the huggable hangers do a decent job of preventing shoulder lumps.

  12. I grew up thinking “trendy” was a word loaded with unpleasant connotations–like I was supposed to look down on people who used the word or chased the trend. But folks here seem to use it in a positive way, and it lightly triggers me every time. No question, just an observation about how the same picture of the world is viewed by different people. And amazed that a field jacket was ever considered trendy.

    1. There are people who think being fashionable requires chasing every trend. They usually age out of it, and then post about forever wardrobes by the time they are 30.

    2. I understand where you are coming from. I find it uncomfortable when trendy is treated as a must, and something looking dated is seen as a fate that must be universally avoided. I like to think that trendy should be an optional attribute, that matters to some based on personal preference. Obviously, I am one of those who don’t come here for the fashion!!

    3. I associate that more with the term ‘fad’. I think of trendy as the ebb and flow of popularity of certain classic pieces or cuts. Being on trend as the alternative to being out of date and out of date being seen as a negative.

    4. I do think it can have an undertone of negativity – like being a slave to trends, blindly following trends, etc. all use the “trend” word as opposed to something like current, modern, updated.

      But when people use it here I take it to mean “popular, a look that will look like I pay attention to what people are wearing” and respond accordingly.

    5. Thank you. I can’t stand reading it here either, especially when condemning what I consider to be classic pieces like (from memory; this is all I can think of right now) ballet flats. Cold-shoulder tops? Okay, that was a fad.

      But the way it’s presented is that [whatever] is so out that it shouldn’t even be considered, and . . . on to the next big thing!

    6. Slight threadjack: A post popped up in my Insta feed yesterday by a woman with 5 or 6 kids, the oldest of whom is named Trendy and the youngest baby is named Disney. I kid you not.

  13. Do you need to get Global Entry for a baby? Seeing some stuff online that says that if the parents have it, the baby can get a courtesy wave-through, but is it better to have their own?

    1. Kids up to 12 can go through Precheck if their parents have it, but need their own Global Entry. I’m not sure if they’d make an exception for an infant but we travel internationally a lot and they’ve always wanted to confirm my kid has her own Global Entry before they let us join that line. I would get it as soon as practicable. It’s free now for kids I believe.

        1. I think she knows that officially kids need it and she was asking if they make unofficial exceptions. And the answer is in fact, yes, they do.

    2. We got a courtesy wave through once, but they warned us that if we tried it again, they would revoke our global entry. So yes, you may get lucky the first time, but I would not chance it. We subsequently got it for both our kids. It was easy because we applied online and they did the “interview” while we were re-entering the country on our next overseas trip.

      1. +1 I once saw them let people through with what looked like a newborn baby (<3 months) but they scolded the parents. Apply ASAP.

    3. Yes, you need to apply separately for your kids. The cost is waived if a parent already has global entry IIRC.

    4. yes you need a separate one, but if you do all the paperwork before you can get an “interview” upon entry to the U.S. next time you travel abroad. I did that for my toddler and it was super easy. We were still through immigration so much faster than the regular line. 100% recommend getting it, sometimes the lines at my airport are 3+ hours to get through, and I couldn’t imagine doing that with a young child.

      1. Waiting almost 3 hours at ORD (thankfully, pre-kids) is what prompted us to get Global Entry. It seems better now, I feel like I rarely seen lines that long. But it’s still much faster with GE.

  14. I went to a meet-the-candidate thing last night and had to take my shoes off — annoyed i didn’t consider that possibility while getting dressed.

    1. Maybe it’s regional but in the Midwest if the event was in a private home, shoes off is always a possibility. If it was hosted at a public venue like a restaurant that’s very weird.

      1. I’ve been a candidate and have been to many, many political events in private homes. I have never been asked to take my shoes off – it would be very odd in that context, like walking around the office in your socks. If you don’t want shoes in your house, then you shouldn’t host professional-type events.

      2. I am a shoes off household in general, but I cannot imagine hosting a meet the candidate event and making people take their shoes off! Super weird IMO.

      3. Agree, especially as the weather turns away from summer. Midwest events that take place in someone’s home are more likely to be shoes-off than shoes-on.

      4. I’m so glad I’m from the part of the midwest where it’s normal to expect foot privacy and orthotic support thanks to clean walk ways, equipped mudrooms, and robust flooring.

          1. There is a lot you can learn about somebody’s health and medical status from their feet, most of which you’d be happier not knowing!

    2. This would annoy me enough that I would leave and probably not vote for that candidate. Floors are made to be walked on, and asking your guests to remove their shoes for the sake of your floors is putting your floors ahead of your guests’ comfort. Your priorities are in the wrong place. Do what you will as to your own family, but guests should not be asked to undress before entering your home. Your floors are not that precious.

      1. Oh gross, no, this is not a universal rule. If someone insisted on wearing their germy shoes all over my home they would be asked to leave because just being a guest does not make them that precious.

          1. I attend these events rather than host, and am perfectly fine taking my shoes off. I don’t want to track all over the host’s rugs. It actually is a home, after all, and my comfort at these types of events is not and should not be the top priority.

      2. sometimes these events are not held at the candidate’s home, but at the home of someone who supports the candidate. while i agree it is off putting, seems a bit nuts to base your whole vote on this

      3. Ooh – -the annual “shoes on vs. shoes off” debate!!

        (The short version is that this is highly regional and cultural but people have very strong opinions on both sides!)

  15. Anyone able to locate a size 16 trouser in the same deep, emerald green as the Malachite version of these? So far the only thing I can find in this shade are corduroys.

  16. I didn’t ask for any china or crystal when I got married. I have some pieces I could ask for from a relative’s estate, but don’t know what is truly useful (vs pretty or sentimental) or how many is an ideal set (would you want to split up a set of goblets so you and a sibling get 4 or share punch bowl cups with a cousin, or just ask for all of something, like punch bowl cups). I have a punch bowl already — ha. Are 4 or 6 china plates useful or do you really want a full set? IDK about any of this and it’s a now-or-never for all of this. I’m not likely to spend any time thrifting, just these family pieces are on offer now.

    1. It’s always better to have more of something like china –you might break a plate some day and you’ll still have the rest of ’em.

  17. busty girls – how do you get your blazers tailored? ready to spend some money on this i think. i feel like if the blazer is open i look shapeless and huge because it hangs from my boobs, and if it’s closed i either look like a stuffed sausage or like i’m wearing my mom’s clothes from 1982.