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For busy working women, the suit is often the easiest outfit to throw on in the morning. In general, this feature is not about interview suits, which should be as classic and basic as you get — instead, this feature is about the slightly different suit that is fashionable, yet professional.
It's not often that I find a suit that I like the looks of for less than $210 — but this Halogen suit had me at hello. Love the “faint stripes” that add a bit of interest to an otherwise totally normal gray suit, and love the sliiiight peplum effect at the pockets. It's nice that both pieces are lined, as well, and available in sizes 0-16. The jacket (Halogen® Textured Blazer) is $138, and the skirt (Halogen® Textured Pencil Skirt) is $68.
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Janie
I love it but wish it was a natural fabric…
Ann
and no pockets :-(
Ann
Wow, that’s an awfully unflattering cut on most people. Ends at the knee? Waist-length jacket? I like the color, but it even dumpifies that tall skinny model! I don’t think I’ll try it for myself.
Jas
Just above the knee is a great length for skirts for me, and actually, the hip-length jacket usually is pretty flattering too.
Elle 2
I would agree – these are perfect lengths and cuts for my build.
Alias Terry
Also absolutely love this. Too bad it is dry clean – that fabric is washable with some caveats I won’t bore you all with.
Great pick, Kat.
j
agreed- i am short and these lengths work on me (although i always have to get skirts shortened to be really above the knee :))
MelD
Where should the skirt end? I am not totally in love with the 4-button jacket but this one is not too bad. I find that Halogen is reasonably priced and the quality is pretty decent.
Suze
Hey MelD and all – any thoughts on the sizing of Halogen/this suit? I kinda like it and for the price, I’d at least order and return if it’s a non-starter. I’m experiencing a horrible form of post-holiday/failed New Years resolution/too busy to deal with it right now ‘size creep’ (argh) and this might be exactly what I need to survive a bunch of upcoming ‘suit required’ depos, big hearings, etc…most of my work wardrobe (esp. court suits) is feeling distinctly sausage-like, if not downright unwearable. So what say you all about sizing and also what to wear under it as an alternative to the obvious black shell so that it can do 2x/week duty while I get back to that workout and broccoli for lunch plan? TIA!!
MelD
Size chart aside, Halogen seems to be cut a little less generously through the hips and a bit more generously up top. I had to go up a size on the pants I bought and wear the same size up top. Unfortunately I don’t have any skirts.
coco
I love the idea of eggplant under this suit. But I also just really like that color. Also navy?
AEK
I think this cut would be flattering on me. Skirt length is easy to change anyway.
s-p-s
Agreed – as a short person with a small waist and hips, longer jackets not only overwhelm my frame, but also overemphasize my lower half. Plus, if skirts are more than a few inches above the knee, they may not be practical for the events for which one usually wears a suit . . .
JessC
Maybe I’m missing something, but that jacket doesn’t appear to be waist-length. It looks like her waist is somewhere around the bottom button. The jacket seems to be hitting right around, perhaps slightly past, the top of her hips which I think is a typically flattering length.
somewherecold
I have the same confusion. On the website, it says that the pleats are waist-level, and the jacket doesn’t look waist-length to me.
Michelle
I think the pleats are around the pockets
Michelle
I think the pleats are around the pockets
Michelle
I think the pleats are around what I originally thought were pockets but are just a seam at the waist
balancing act
I can see that working for a lot of people. How is Halogen as a brand quality-wise? I don’t have anything from there.
Threadjack: I’ve recently taken a new position (think senior associate-ish). Somehow, people seem to think that I am a fresh grad and keep giving me “lower” assignments, mentoring advice that is more appropriate for a first year etc. It’s nice that people want to help, but how do I say “hey, I’ve been there, done that” without sounding like a jerk? Thanks!
E.E.
Can you have a coworker walk you around to meet people and have that person say something along the lines of “this is Balancing Act. she started two weeks ago. prior to that, she spent 4 years at Firm X” (or you say something like that yourself). Alternatively, you can send around an introduction email, either to individuals or to the group saying you’ve met most people but not everyone and just wanted to briefly introduce yourself to the group. Then say something similar – you have 4 years of experience (or whatever) at Firm X and are excited to be joining the new team. Looking forward to working with everyone, blah blah blah. :)
In a one-on-one situation where someone is clearly making the assumption this is your first job (i.e., “when I first started here right out of school, I wish someone had told me…”) I think it’s fine to say, “that’s great advice. Just so you know, I actually worked at Firm X for a few years, but I do appreciate the pointer.” If someone assigns you work that you think is beneath you based on what you believe is the flawed assumption that you’re just starting your career, I think that needs to be handled more delicately and you need to be 100% certain that’s why you’re getting the work before you in any way reject it. The strategies above could probably help prevent such assignments going forward though.
Alias Terry
Also, are you presenting yourself as someone who can get the job done? Attitude goes a long way (along with dressing the part). Toot your own horn about your accomplishments, you got the position for a reason. Find a diplomatic way to let folks know. Is there someone you can delegate the less complex tasks too? If so, this would be one way to walk the walk of a manger.
L
I would do all of the assignments as best as possible — they might just be checking to make sure you are ready for more advanced work because this is their first working experience with you despite knowing you have X years experience at X firm. Seek out more advanced projects when those opportunities arise in cases/projects you are working on and your abilities and experience will stand out.
Regarding the mentoring advice, I would throw stories or examples into conversations that indicate you have done X motion / argument before on similar cases, argued in front of X judge, etc… to remind them casually. Honestly, sometimes there are so many new people at once that it is hard to keep up with who came from where with what backgrounds if you are at a large organization. These opportunities will also give you insight specific to the firm that is valuable even though you have work experience
Also, we have several ancient partners who treat everyone under 60 like a first years, so I wouldn’t read anything into it if coming from someone of significance seniority.
Last thought, if you went from a biglaw firm or big city to small firm or smaller city, be sensitive not to come across as arrogant, i.e. “I did these all the time in New York / BigLaw.” I’m guessing this may be the case because I don’t think the situation would be as sensitive in the reverse?
Anonymous
The organization would be wasting resources if they continue to underutilize you. Is there some reason why your assignments are a mismatch for your role/background — are people not familiar with your role or your prior experience? Can you ask your boss to get you more appropriate assignments? That being said, do not outright reject advice even if you *know* it all already. I am working with someone new who doesn’t even take the time to absorb information before declaring that she’s been there done that and she is making herself look foolish, turning off people who just want to help (and won’t in the future) and missing out on valuable information because she just tunes it out. She’s new to our organization and she can’t possibly know *everything*.
balancing act
Thanks everyone! I don’t want to come off like Anon’s coworker for sure! I give the old-timers a pass because that’s how they are, but it’s coming from people with whom I am competing for work, so I need to make sure that perception doesn’t hang out there.
P
Bc you say it’s coming from people with whom you compete for work (assuming this means others at your level) you need to get assignments from people above you so the next time one of them asks you to do something you can say you’re busy and suggest more junior associates.
EC
Does your firm have enough work? I’m a fairly junior associate in a *very* slow department right now, and I’ve noticed that the senior associates are being given work I would have done in the past, and I’m being given lots of copying/word processing jobs. It sucks, but it’s not personal.
Also, if you moved between regions, you might ask other people at your same level in the firm or at other firms in your new region whether the jobs you’re being given are normal for your level of experience. In fact, you might ask one of your colleagues (especially one given you sub-par work!) whether these assignments are “normal” for someone of your level at the new firm; if it comes off as a question/mentoring moment, you might be able to avoid seeming arrogant.
AL
re: Halogen – it’s an exclusive Nordstrom brand; it’s great. I love Halogen and the suit quality is excellent (despite what others have said.) I put my Halogen suit in the washing machine – hand wash cycle, cold water – and then line dry – and it’s fine.
balancing act
Cool, thanks!
noname
I don’t think I like the fabric on this suit, but I do like the cut of it. I’d wear it, I’m tall but not particularly thin, and I think it’d be flattering.
Threadjack-I just declined a job in another state because my husband really loves his job and we own our home so he really didn’t want to move. I feel sick about it, I loved the firm and I really liked the partner I might have worked under, but I know that my husband would have been miserable in that state (and unemployed) and I would have been miserable living so far from him alone if I went and he stayed behind. I feel like it was the right choice, but I can’t help but also feel so incredibly sad that I gave up a great opportunity. Oh, and the job prospects in my current state do not look very good. I can’t even turn to my friends to cry about it because most of them haven’t found a job and it is insensitive to complain about turning one down.
AEK
I’m sorry. You should be sad; you’re mourning a lost opportunity. But it sounds like you believe that you made the right choice for you (there probably was no objectively “right” thing to do) and your family, so try not to experience the sadness as regret—they’re separate.
One thing I learned from a similar experience: your husband can be a great source of comfort and support about this, but you have to be sensitive in how you approach the subject. He should know that you are feeling sad about the lost opportunity. But no one wants to feel like a dream-killer, so try your best to avoid the language of blame. I found that “sacrifice” was a hard one for my husband to hear (I might have been feeling a tad melodramatic during that conversation:)). I got the support and sympathy I needed from him by making clear that I was comfortable with the decision but feeling sad about the collateral effects and struggling with figuring out the alternatives.
Again, I’m sorry. It’s a very tough situation. Good on you for being sensitive to your friends, too—but don’t cut yourself off from your support system, either.
L
That is a bummer. Agree with AEK. I would recommend you plan some fun activities (watching TV show / movie, coffee with friends, date night with husband) to look forward to and exercise to keep your spirits up while you continue the job search.
Lola
“Sacrifice” might be harsh for your husband to hear, but “a little disappointed” seems appropriate.
rg
Not a lawyer, but I’ve been there. And I sympathize. We actually did live apart for a short time, but I hated being without him…so kudos for recognizing early that you can’t handle it.
Also, you don’t say if you are currently employed. If not, bear in mind that if this situation persists (and you say prospects are bad where you are), then you may experience some changing emotions over time. I know I’m lucky that I was never unemployed, but I still experienced rough periods for not having my “dream” job.
I think the important thing is to create a mutually supportive situation where you don’t fall into the trap of blaming him for having given up a great opportunity. And also to allow for the possibility that you might change your priorities or desires in the future. It would be great if you can find a job you love in your state, but you may not be able to. Maybe set a deadline for when you would start looking in other places (BTW, why did you apply for this other job in the first place?). You need to approach this as a team, or you will end up feeling like your careers are being pitted against each other rather than your marriage being mutually supportive.
I’m saying the above because I think my husband and I didn’t address these issues directly for a while, and we went through an unnecessarily rough period because of it. Depending on your personality, it might be good to have a plan. “If I don’t find something here in 6 months, we’ll both start looking elsewhere, but constrain our search to these locations.” And, even though it was an unspoken given, I came to realize that it was incredibly important for me to actual *hear* my husband say that my happiness was important to him, and that he understood how important my career was to me specifically. Honestly, once we had that conversation explicitly (we always “knew” how we felt), my anxiety over not taking the “dream” position was completely mitigated. And his feeling like it wasn’t enough for me just to be with him also dissolved. It freed me to feel a lot happier about just being together and what a privilege it is to be loved and have someone to share your life with.
Good luck with everything! It is a challenge, but I think it’s very helpful to explicitly remind yourself why you married him. And also to not feel guilty if you sometimes get down about it…as long as you also remember that *you* made this choice because you wanted to be with him.
Frump
I live apart from my husband, and it is very, very hard. So, believe me that your decision does have some merits, and it was very kind/good hearted/loving of you to think of him so much when making this decision.
legalbeagle
Ladies I have a quick question. I am a young professional. Lately I’ve been feeling like my work wardrobe is very frumpy and conservative. I don’t have to wear suits because my office is business casual. I tend to wear some variation of button down shirts and sweaters (it gets cold in my office) with skirts or pants. I actually prefer suits to business casual because they are just easier and make me feel sharper and more authoritative, but if I wore a suit, I would be wayyyy overdressed. Since I am young and single, on weekends I tend to dress a bit on the sexy/funky/fun side with shirts and jeans that show off my figure and flatter my skin tone, cute hair accessories, and fun jewelry and makeup. At work I feel like I have to wear muted colors, basic, classic jewelry, high necklines, blah blah blah to look professional. Honestly I end up aging myself. My wardrobe even makes my face look sort of dull and old at work as opposed to the weekends. Anyway, I guess I’m just wondering if anyone has tips to break out of the frumpy winter wardrobe rut.
eaopm3
I feel exactly the same way about my work wardrobe, regardless of whether I am wearing a suit. And I am on such a budget right now, that I can’t even afford to get some bright colors to liven life up a little! Since I am on a budget, my best advice to get out of the winter doldrums is to get a great spray tan – if your skin tone can accept it. Makes me feel better every time.
If you aren’t on a budget, I suggest, since you are business casual, looking into getting some trendy dress pants. I love BR’s skinny Martin fit. They always make me feel my age without being too revealing or tight. I also think you can get away with some printed colorful blouses that are youthful in color and fit. Trade those in for your button ups.
What about a trendy watch? I have recently had my eye on a tortoise shell Michael Kors watch.
I also highly recommend investing in a couple pair of shoes that make you feel young as well. I splurged and bought a pair of gray leather Coach pumps (no worries, not logo-type shoes, lol) and I wear them constantly. They look fresh and appropriate for my age but still conservative enough for any situation.
Hope you can find some things that pull you out of your rut!
Anon
Work some of your fun weekend in to your boring workweek! I have been working for a few years now (more than 5, less than 10) and when I think back on the first few years out of school? Wow, yawn city. Even though I’ve stayed at the same firm with the mostly the same folks, I just decided that short of being in court, there was no reason to be super conservative all the time. Don’t get me wrong, I’m fully covered, but I’ve embraced my fun jewelry with plain suits and tops, more fun shoes with black pants or pencil skirts. Don’t be disheartened about your work wardrobe. It sounds like you’ve built a great baseline of basics. Now just work in the more fun things with that. Cute camis under sold cardigans. A fun headband (I’ve worn the ones with “adornment,” but only when it’s on the side), great makeup or cute shoes with an otherwise conservative look can be really refreshing.
Robin
Agree. Jewelry or other accessories are a great way to make boring clothes interesting if that’s your thing. If its not, try working your weekend stuff into your work wardrobe. Layer a floaty top over a turtleneck, for example. I used to do the uniform to work – black pants and different button down. But I hate that now (unless its all black or black and gray). I have a unique style and I wear what I want, but I’m always covered.
AL
Ditto on all the comments above. Try some fun tops as a layer underneath a cardigan. Put on the fun jewelry with a conservative top/bottom. Wear some fun shoes (not hooker heels or clubbing shoes but perhaps peep toes or shoes with color).
Lola
I don’t know. I think that “aging yourself” is kind of the point. You want to look smart and capable at work. If that means that you need to look 10 years older, you need to do it. It’s how people get taken seriously.
Work is not the place to look “sexy/funky/fun.” A little personality, sure. Throw in some color, and one accessory per day that’s a little artsy. But if you feel like your inner fashionista isn’t coming out at work… then you’re probably dressing appropriately.
Frump
Is the point of this blog not to learn how to be a fashionista in the work environment sense? I mean, if we were all meant to feel drab and awful at work, why should a blog like this exist at all? There are plenty of ways to feel fashionable (if not work-fashionista even!) in a work environment that don’t involve the same types of things you’d do to be a weekend-fashionista… think wearing colorful (but appropriate) jewelry, having clothes that fit you well, having nice shirts or blosues (perhaps in interesting colors or nice prints), having nicely manicured nails (in a work appropriate color), having lots of different types of work shoes and/or bags, making sure your hair is styled in a nice way…
I think people should feel good about their appearance at work because that will make them more confident, which generally translates to working at least minimally better. I think if you feel blah at work because of how you look, you’re not going to be channeling very positive energy into what you’re doing.
Appearing smart, capable, and good at your job is all about being polished, carrying yourself well, and looking professionally put together. This can be accomplished by wearing flatting clothes that give you confidence about your appearance and generally this does not necessarily equal being ‘sexy’ or ‘funky’ at work, even if what you are wearing on a daily basis isn’t a baggy black suit and a stretch-cotton white shirt. There is in fact a happy medium somewhere between the ‘sexy club wear at work’ extreme and the ‘drab/lifeless/boring’ extreme you seem to be advocating somewhat for, and I think it’s that happy medium where people look, work, and feel their best.
Lola
Frump – I agree with you.
I also agree with others – A dress with tights or a colorful cardigan or two might spice things up.
And scarves!
Anonymous
Stacey and Clinton have women like this on their show all the time: frump and boring in the day, and too sexy at night. Honestly, it seems that many of those women have a hard time dealing with their own body, breasts, sexuality. I am not trying to be harsh – but look at how you feel about yourself in the workplace.
MelD
I think the issue with looking too frumpy as a younger person is that you tend to look like you are playing dress up in your mother’s clothing. There are plenty of ways to have an appropriately conservative wardrobe that is still fun and youthful. There’s nothing wrong with wearing pattern and bright colors in moderation or fun accessories.
Bonnie
Frumpy does not equal professional. Nobody is suggesting that she wear an inappropriately low-cut or tight shirt. However, weekend shirts, jewelry, shoes, etc, can be incoporated into a workday wardrobe, particularly in a business casual office.
Anne
New lipstick! Also spend some time with your wardrobe. Mix things up, photograph some new combinations, add an accessory etc. You may find some fun weekend jewelry could work with a more conservative outfit.
And there is no reason why colors that flatter your skin tone can’t make it into the work week.
Ru
Good idea! A muted outfit is a great foundation for more pronounced makeup.
Anonymous
I think you might benefit from adding a few work-appropriate dresses to your wardrobe. They have the same simplicity of a suit but can be a little more fun than your current everyday look. Plus, I find this to be a very economical way to dress professionally. And dresses can easily be transformed for an evening out by switching up your shoes and accessories or taking off the cardigan/jacket if you are wearing one.
EC
If you like suits but can’t wear them at work, how about some fun, colorful, textured blazers or jackets instead of a cardigan? I’m a member of a women’s business league, and every time I go to a lunch meeting, all the young women are in super cute colorful jackets with scarves and fun jewelry. It would be a way to break out of the cardigan rut, at least.
advice?
First, I love this suit, and think it will be the very next thing I buy. Thank you!
Second – a threadjack: I recently went to a tailor for the first time. I found him on the internet; he had good yelp reviews, and he’s very close to my office. I took two skirts and he performed various alterations on them. I made three visits to his studio in connection with getting these alterations done:
Visit 1: I tried on the skirts, he made chalk marks and told me he would make the alterations and just baste them and I should come in the next day to try them on. I asked him what the cost would be, and he said I’ll tell you tomorrow.
Visit 2: I tried on the basted skirts, and he made further chalk marks so that he could do the final alterations. I asked him what the cost would be, and he said I’ll tell you at your next visit.
Visit 3: I went to pick up one of the skirts, which I needed to wear the next day. The second skirt wasn’t ready yet. I asked him what the cost would be, and he said $78 each, for a total of $156. I may have appeared to balk at the cost, although I didn’t say anything and would have just paid the $156. But then he said “No – you pay what you want. Come back tomorrow to pick up the second skirt and pay what you think is right.”
So now I have to go pick up the second skirt, and I’m not happy with the whole cost thing. I don’t know how much I should have to pay for this particular work; I have no experience in this area and I honestly don’t have time to do a survey of what other tailors charge so that I can come up with a fair price – and anyway, that’s his job, not mine. But $78 per skirt seems a little steep – one of them didn’t cost $78 to begin with. He is an older Russian gentleman, if that makes a difference – maybe there’s something that’s customary for him that I’m not getting. Any advice? I guess I feel inclined to just pay the $78 per skirt and then look for another tailor so I don’t have to deal with this weird confrontational thing again. Thank you!
Lola
That seems weird. I’ve only had tailoring done by a local Korean woman in my neighborhood (in a city in the Northwest), but she skipped the “basting” step and quoted me a price on the first visit. At that first visit, I tried stuff on and she chalked it. Then I will pick it up in a few days. She gave me a ticket, like a dry cleaner. I think she has a skirt and a pair of my pants now to hem, both lined, and I expect to pay $30-40.
(For what it’s worth, the pants she has right now are part of a Talbots suit that I bought based on a recommendation on here. She was like, “Wow, these are good quality!” when she saw them. Thanks, ladies.)
Alias Terry
Yelp? Yelp is not a reliable source of information at all. The businesses have to pay for their positive review and ratings, and depending on what they pay is how positive they seem. (And if they don’t pay, their positive reviews go away.)
The tailor in question sounds either very old and out of touch or shady. There should have been a price quoted up front and any modifications to that price clearly communicated to you.
Sorry you had a bad experience.
Lyssa
I didn’t know that (about Yelp). Good to know!
(BTW, I’ve never been to an actual tailor. This thread is making me not want to try!)
Kaye
Um, Alias Terry, can you substantiate that claim with a link? I would be awfully surprised if that were the case about Yelp.
I do recall there being some kind of scandal about Yelp reviews, but nothing quite as bad as “the number of stars is determined by how much the business pays”. It was quite a bit more nuanced than that.
AL
This tailor seems a bit suspicious; I’ve never had to go to a tailor more than try it on, makes the markings; come and pick and it. For handsewen cltohing from scratch fabric, yes, several visits are the norm; but not a simple basting/hemming.
For future tailor visits, can you ask your co-workers where they get their clothes tailored? It’s hard to find a good tailor; I can attest but once you get someone, s/he will be your best friend. I even have different tailors I go to for different items (such as simple hems versus bridesmaid dress alterations).
EC
That is not how interactions with tailors usually run, in my experience (and I’ve dealt with several, in multiple cities). Generally, you take the item in, they figure out how they need to alter it, quote you a price and write a receipt, and then you come back and pick it up. If it was a complicated alteration they might have you try it on again, but usually not.
And, that is extremely expensive. I had 12 pieces altered the last time I went to the tailor, and the whole bill came out to $150 (mostly hemming, but also taking in a couple pairs of lined pants and a dress). You need to find another tailor. And I wouldn’t pay $76; if he gives you the option to pay what you think is right, leave him $30 and get the hell out of there. And maybe bring a friend to back you up…
a lawyer
I agree that this price seems steep, depending on what you had done. I’ve only been to a couple of tailors and none had the basting step involved. I would pay what you think is reasonable–I personally think $78 for the two combined is pretty close to what I would think, and then find someone else.
The businessman should have given you a price at the first visit, no question. That way you could have decided if it was worth having the alterations done or if you wanted to shop for someone more reasonable. You should not feel bad if you do not pay his exorbitant price.
If you are a member of any professional organizations with women or even a women’s listserv in the area, you might ask around that way for a reasonably priced, good dtailor.
Kaye
It’s possible this guy has great Yelp ratings b/c he mostly does high-end work for high-end clients? As in, maybe he charges top dollar and does top-notch work, and his regular clients love him. Tailors differ in price levels and the kind of work they do; for alterations, you probably don’t need the best tailor in town, just someone competent.
LawDawg
I actually bought this suit this past weekend, but with pants, not the skirt. I needed a new suit, walked into Nordstrom’s tried it on and that was it. Another woman in the dressing room was also buying the exact same suit. So for those who think it might be unflattering, it was a hit with at least two of us in the same store at the same time. My 9 year old also gave it a big thumbs up.
Anon
I was hoping it came with pants! Good to know they’re out there – I didn’t see them online.