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, and people were taking us around to show us the entire forthcoming collection. (O dark blue twinset, why can I not find you on the website?) In any event — JNY's suiting is pretty great this season (and I am totally digging their ad campaign |
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Chicago S
“washable wool” is really more poly than wool (55%/42%) which is what makes it washable I guess. I just can’t get myself to put a lined garment in the wash, has anyone had luck with this?
Shayna
Have not tried, but am always a little irked by the fact that a garment that is mostly poly is is being advertised as being washable wool… and I don’t even like to wear wool! ;-)
Anon101
I tried it once with a skirt and we both survived. Did not put it in the dryer though.
MPC
My first-ever “professional” skirt was lined polyester from The Limited. I have always thrown it in the washing machine– at first because I didn’t know any better, now because I know it can take a beating. It has survived to this day (5 years later); in fact, I wore it to work yesterday. I always hang it up to dry and never, ever iron it.
Mille
I’d love to hear back from anyone who does get these and washes them. I’ve not had good results from washing nice jackets, but would like the option to not take them to the dry cleaner.
Does anyone know the return policy? If I wash and ruin something advertised as washable, will they take it back?
Seventh Sister
Well, I’m feeling very fashionable today! I bought the pantsuit a few weeks ago. Really like it. Haven’t tried washing it yet, though.
I’ve been a fan of JNY for a long time. I have tiny shoulders but am mostly average everywhere else, which they seem to take into consideration (unlike some other designers at that price point).
Glad to see they have a sheath dress – will probably order that soon.
Anonymous
I have luck washing almost everything, lined pieces included, excepting my most treasured special pieces I feel I cannot ever be without, inside out, in mesh bags, cold, delicate, minimal detergent… lined pieces come out of the machine funky but iron up easy breezy. I dryclean very, very few clothes and have had very, very few mishaps– none with lined suit separates, but some with knit pieces which have shrunk or pilled.
Anon3L
I have it and LOVE it. It’s actually my interview suit (very basic charcoal grey.) I don’t wash it every time I wear it, but I have washed it about 3-4 times. Still looks brand new. No fading, pilling, etc. And I always gets compliments on it when I wear it. I got it for $99/jacket, $49/skirt at the North Georgia Premium Outlets.
anonymous
I have this suit in charcoal grey and black. I’m a public defender, so not a lot of money for dry cleaning (or clothes, for that matter). I’ve washed them about every other week for a year. In washer and dryer. The grey has held up GREAT. The black, less so. It is starting to pill, and seems to be a magnet for lint.
ADB_BWG
I just bought both of these (and some other stuff) at the JNY outlet store. 25% most stuff and a free (with AAA membership) coupon for 15% of the stuff not on sale.
Material looks and feels okay (some polyesterish) but fit was great.
Joan
I have the sheath dress and suit in two colors, black and gray. I wash and dry them and they come out perfect. Occassionally when the weater is a little dry, I have a little static cling but running a metal object (like a metal letter opener) over the fabric removes it. I wash them by themselves in the washer on delicate cycle and toss them in the dryer on permanent press cycle for about 10-15 minutes and they come out looking pressed. When I hang them dry they look a little wrinkled. I love these suits.
Emily
I like the models! I can actually see how the dress hangs on hips! Hooray!
lk
My first thought too. Suits themselves, meh, but impressed that JNY lets us see how *we* would actually look in thier clothes.
z
I can’t wear anything with any wool in it. So many beautiful wool (or part wool) garments on this site. Any advice for where (stores/brands) to look for nice synthetic suits? I have such a hard time finding stuff that’s not too trendy or too dated.
Anonymous
I have a couple really nice-looking polyester suits by East 5th that I got at JC Penney.
Anon
Seconding the East 5th at JC Penney. Washable and wears well.
C2
Classiques Entier at Nordstrom makes gorgeous poly suits — nicely cut and really substantial material, none of that awful swishing noise when you walk.
bankerette
I don’t have the same problem, but I do have a lovely suit from Benetton that is a poly/viscose blend. It fits so well, feels great on, looks significantly more expensive than it was, and was very much on sale. I was in the store today and I believe all their suits are poly blends – but you can’t tell by the feel of the fabric that that’s the case.
Thalia
Actually about half of their suits have wool, the other half are all polyester.
RR
I’ve been eyeing this collection for awhile, but would really like some real world reviews first.
W
Despite their fondness for poly, I have always been a big JNY fan. For some reason they always fit me just right (I have shorter legs and a longer torso) and if you catch a sale, they are super cheap. It’s gotten to the point that I can reliably pull a JNY suit off the racks at Macy’s and almost 100% of the time it’s going to work.
I’m REALLY happy to see that they’re moving towards wool as I don’t love wearing poly suits. I’d gladly pay more if they started using nicer materials. I’ll order a few of these pieces and will post a review once I’ve tried them on.
(Also, I always dry clean my suits b/c it scares me to put them–even the poly ones–into the washing machine. Maybe I should try it though, I’m sure my wallet would appreciate it!)
Maybe Baby
Does anyone have a recommendation for an OB/GYN in Washington, DC? We are thinking of trying to have a kid pretty soon and I just switched to a new insurance . . . . Never had to put so much thought into finding a doctor before!
K
Don’t have any recs for DC proper but women at my office rave about Drs. Anderson/Maanavi’s practice in Fairfax, VA. They don’t take our firm’s new insurance and one of my coworkers is seriously freaking out about having to find another doc for her next pregnancy.
eplawyer
I use Georgetown University Hospital’s OB/GYN department for my annual exams. Never been pregnant, but I trust all the doctors there. They take the time to answer your questions. Also, I can almost guarantee they accept your insurance (whatever it is). The receptionists are also very helpful regarding insurance paperwork too.
D
Check out Reiter, Hill, Johnson & Nevin on 19th Street. I go to Dr. Busch on the recommendation of my GP (her Dr) but I’m not sure if she specializes in OB. Also check out the Washingtonian list of best doctors for additional ideas.
- j -
YES YES YES. SO very second D. I actually went to their NP, Mona, and she was fantastic. Seriously one of my biggest regrets about leaving DC. That and I have a fabulous hair dresser in Clarendon who’s totally worth the trip if you’re anywhere close…
B
J — who’s your hairdresser in Clarendon? I’ve been in the market for a new one …
MPC
Nevevr been pregnant, but I loved Foxhall OB/GYN when they took my insurance (I switched when I started my new job). Dr. Renee Stany was fantastic. They are a little out of the way, though, unless you live in the AU Park/Tenleytown/Spring Valley area.
Bonnie
Second Reither and Hill. Be prepared for a long wait time for new client appointments anywhere you go in D.C.
Nikki
Yes! I really like Foxhall OB/GYN. Haven’t been pregnant but Dr. Andrew Engel was just great. Now that I have the miraculous Mirena, I don’t have to visit (for bc script) as often though!
Anon
I really like Dr. Bandhana Bajaj at the K street location of Capital Women’s Care. The K street location used to be a practice under the names of (I think) Julian Safran and Stephen Horwitz, and then it merged with other practices to form Capital Women’s Care, which has multiple locations in the area. http://www.cwcare.net/index.html
I originally sought out this particular practice based on recommendations for a number of doctors there and just asked for the next available female doctor, and I fell in love with Dr. Bajaj – she’s young, friendly, and puts me right at ease. I have Blue Cross Blue Shield, if that helps!
Oh, and second the comment about having to wait a while for a new patient appointment in DC – this seems to be the norm at all DC doctors of all specialties.
govvie girl
Have you tried Angie’s List? They have reviews of doctors now, also.
Hildy
Threadjack: looking for some of that excellent Corporette advice.
I recently moved to academia from the industry where I worked (summers off- yay!) but I continue to do a little consulting for my former company. For the first time, I’m doing a fair number of conference call meetings and I’d love some tips for effectively presenting myself during these sessions.
Those of you who routinely conduct business this way, how do you stay focused, find the right time and manner to speak up and generally be an active participant and leader in discussions when you’re just a disembodied voice and can’t really read the room? All advice welcome!
Emily
I do a lot of phone conferences on the private side, and especially government participants tend to forget that the other participants (lawyers, accountants, etc) are being paid by the six-minute increment to attend the call. If it’s an issue you need to address with just one other person, rather than the whole group, try to get it hashed out before the call so you don’t take up a lot of time. If the issue comes up unexpectedly and it’s taking a lot of time during a group call, take a step back and ask to continue it offline after the call. The paying clients will be grateful.
Anonymous
I’ve only been on a few conference calls, but there is 1 thing that has become a pet peeve of mine. Please make sure that you understand how to properly mute your end of the call and do not put the call on hold. It is incredibly annoying to try and talk over hold music, especially when it isn’t music but advertisements for the company/firm/school. I know this isn’t what you asked, but your question sparked my desire to remind people of this.
I also second govvie girl’s advice for identifying yourself whenever you speak. It can get a little confusing if there are more than 2 people talking on the call.
Enjoy your summers off and your new position!
RoadWarriorette
Also a pet peeve of mine!! I lead a lot of meetings, and there is NOTHING more difficult to do than transmit a lot of important information over hold music. I often start my calls with, “Please make sure you do not put us on hold. If you have to, hang up and then dial back in so we’re not subject to hold music.”
Chicago K
Check if your conference line providor offers a Meeting Moderator website – both of ours do. You can login to the website and monitor who joins the call. At the same time, you can mute all of the lines, and disconnect people who put their phones on hold – essentially kicking them out of the meeting.
Yes, I have been known to do this. If you aren’t listening to the call, I don’t care how high up you are, I am booting you out and you can call back in when you notice!
Shayna
If possible, send an agenda out beforehand so everyone knows what is and is not up for discussion. And – horrible as this may sound – don’t feel bad about cutting of a tangent conversation with a reminder that you have to move onto the next point and an offer to speak a/b the tangent at a later date/time… the current popular phrase is “take this off-line”
M in CA
Here’s some random advice I’ve recently received re: networking, but I think it applies to life, work, etc. in general: “When you’re interested, you’re interesting.” I really had to put this into practice at a big convention a few weeks back. I was exhausted by the end of the first day (convention was 3 days) but I had to stay focused on each person I was talking with. To stop my own eyes from glazing over with every conversation, I made myself somehow be interested in what they had to say, and what do you know, I actually found that when I did that, they were more engaged with me as well. If you can find a way to just be interested in what they’re saying on the call, I think the rest of it will come naturally (being an active participant, etc.) I know this can be a challenge sometimes! :)
Also, I’ve heard that people can actually tell when you’re smiling over the phone, so I’d suggest doing that to soften things up and sound less disembodied.
Just my two cents.
anon also
One thing that can help immensely is using any collaboration tools that are available to you to keep everyone in sync and use time effectively. Examples are on-line meeting rooms, screen sharing, or even a slide deck or bullet points circulated in advance. If you don’t know who is speaking don’t hesitate to ask. I also try to dial in a minute early so as not to keep anyone waiting on me. Also, if I am running the meeting, I try to start the wrap up on time and end early /on time to keep everyone on time for whatever else they have going on.
K
As far as staying focused, I strongly recommend that you not do the call near a computer unless you absolutely need to. It can be very tempting to quickly check your email, the news or Corporette during a point in the call where you’re not actively participating and lose the thread of the discussion.
Very small point, but I always find it helpful to dial in a minute or two early. That way you will be among the initial group making small talk, and you’ll feel more connected to the call as a whole.
Chicago K
I conduct 100% of my business via conference calls. The others have given great advice. Just a few things to add.
-Get to know the services offered by the conference line providor. Often, you can mute all lines, login to a website to take attendence, lock the meeting after everyone you want is there, etc. As I noted in another comment, it’s extremely helpful to mute someone who leaves their phone on hold, or disconnect them from the meeting. They generally also offer recording/dictation services for an additional charge – if you need this.
– Always introduce yourself when speaking, and if you are faciliating, go around the call and let people introduce themselves and say their role. It helps to put a name to the voices.
– Always have an agenda, and keep the call of track. Don’t go over, infact, ending a few minutes early allows people time to get to their next meeting on time. Utlize services like Webex to screen share and have people follow-along if you are giving a presentation. Otherwise, ask them to have the agenda up in front of them.
– Limit the participants. Sometimes everyone and their cat wants to show up to the meeting, but it makes it MUCH harder to reach consenses and move things along.
– Be careful of feedback if using a wireless headset and you have your Blackberry near by. When messages come in, the headset gets interference. You might want to keep the BB in a drawer for the meeting
– Don’t be afraid to ask people to mute their lines. If someone is talking through your call – SAY SOMETHING TO THEM. I have been on so many calls where people just “deal with it.” It’s not unreasonable to say, “I hear someone having a side bar, can you please mute your phone?” Often times those people THINK they are on mute and are glad that you tell them. I heard one women tell a coworker about her pregnancy while thinking she was muted, and another guy use the bathroom! You might want to remind them at the beginning of the call. Most conference providors offer an option to mute the line if you don’t have a mute button (it’s *6 on both of our providor lines).
govvie girl
Hildy, I do a lot of these (of course in govt, we have to make them acronym/shorthand-sounding so they are “telecons”). The best way I get my thoughts organized is having the agenda at hand and be aware of the items/subjects I am particularly interested in or about which I have a “dog in the fight.” However, I will typically chime in on a subject when I have a question or point to address (information to share, etc.). Of course, I wait until there is a break, sentence-stop, breath-taking, whatever. I always identify myself (“this is x again…”) and then provide the input. The first time I identify myself, I include my office/organization, so people aren’t wondering why some random person thinks it’s so fun to dial in. Once I have gotten to know the participants-after a few telecons or in person- I may interject some humor appropriately. Basically, be polite but engaged. Like any other meeting, you may want to just actively listen more until you get to know the dynamics and people, and are able to decide effective points of interaction. You don’t want to be a shrinking violet but you also don’t want to speak just to hear your own voice. Have way too much of the latter in “govvie” meetings! Hope that helps.
AIMS
Identifying yourself is so key — especially as discussion gets rolling, it becomes so easy to neglect this!
I also second the agenda idea — I jot down everything that I need to say/cover so that nothing gets lost as the discussion progresses.
I also find it helpful to jot down speakers & their brief points, but I recognize that some people find that distracting so it may not be for everyone. When I don’t have the chance to jot down points during the call, I try to take quick notes right after so that I remember what was said, who said it, what I need to follow up on, etc. while it’s all fresh in my mind.
L
I feel like the all black ensembles in the ad campaign make the clothes look like uniforms and the models a small army.
Tricia
Amen! I found the magazine ads very off-putting. “Be a clone if you want to be successful!” was the message I got.
Bonnie
Suit hijack: I’ve got to give props to Ann Taylor. I bought this, http://www.anntaylor.com/catalog/product.jsp?productId=27162&N=1200008&pCategoryId=3939&categoryId=179&Ns=CATEGORY_SEQ_179&loc=TN&defaultColor=Brown%20Heather&defaultSizeType=Regular
3 piece suit there last week during their 40% off 3 items sale. It fits fabulously and I love that the material has just a little stretch. They have all the pieces in regular and petite sizes and have 3 pant fits. Because of all these options, I was able to buy pieces that all fit off the rack. My 3 pieces ended up being all different sizes and a mix of petites and regular.
Anon
A quick question for attorneys here -hope someone is around!
When you file a brief with a non-court governmental agency, should the brief be in attorney’s letterhead or ordinary paper? Same question for supporting affidavit and other documents like index etc.
Thanks in advance!
a lawyer
I would file it on ordinary paper–presumably the case still has something resembling a “style,” and I would put that at the top just like with a court filing. Same for affidavits. An index is something I would normally put at the end of the document, or a tableof contents at the front, and would put it on plain paper with no style.
On the other hand, if what you are doing is more like a letter-brief to a judge, I use letterhead.
This is not always a clear line, but I think you are always safe to use non-letterhead, whereas some agencies may think that a letterhead brief is too informal. If in doubt, go with plain paper.
TAH
I would say ordinary paper with the caption at the top for all of the documents, as you would for documents filed in court, unless the agency’s rules or instructions specify that the brief should be in letter-form, in which case, use letterhead for the brief.
FWIW, I’m an attorney for a non-court government agency, and I prosecuted complaints at administrative hearings for several years.
Anon
Thank you so much for your replies! That helps a lot. I think that I am going to go ahead and print on plain paper. This is a very informal proceeding- Something that has a plain paper to fill in your position!
Annon on this one
I just need to vent (although it’s probably too late for anyone to see this and respond).
I’m a 3L at a tier 1 school. I’m in the top 15% of my class, on a journal and moot court, super involved and I think I have great recommendations (I can’t know for sure because the professors send them straight to judges).
I didn’t get a single interview for a federal clerkship. Monday was the deadline to hear , interviews are tomorrow and Friday. I have none. It is just so depressing to feel like I did everything right and not even get a chance. I’ve worked my butt off for 2 years and I get nowhere. I don’t have a job lined up because I worked at a small firm instead of biglaw and I found out that the firm can’t offer me unless someone leaves now (which won’t be happening I’m sure since no one would leave the firm as its a blast and no one wants to be unemployed right now).
I hate this legal market right now and I feel like no one that isn’t in it can truly understand how bad it is right now… I just sort of want to cry.
Anon on this one*
* Fixed my name
As an addition, I’ve gained like 10lbs since I came to school. I just saw a few pictures of myself from a friend’s birthday party where I thought I looked good (bought a new dress and all) and the pics showed that things are not looking good… it’s just all around depressing.
Kaye
That sounds really awful, sorry to hear :(
I have no advice for you, not being from your field, but hopefully something will work out for you before graduation – it’s still a long way away.
Another Sarah
1. Don’t cry.
2. So you didn’t get an interview for a federal clerkship. If you’re dead-set on clerking, there are tons of state-level judges that need clerks, and since your grades/school are good, you can probably go for the state appellate/supreme court. You can always clerk for a federal judge next year too – it’s not like they’re all going to fall into the sea next year. :-)
3. You aren’t nowhere. You are somewhere. You have the grades and you probably look good on paper. So you’re better off than most of your classmates. Run with this and start applying.
4. Well, if you really want to cry, you would probably feel better afterwards. Law school generally made me want to cry. :-)
5. You may not want to hear this, but you have to go and make your own magic. All of my legal jobs, including the one I have now (temping, but still legal$$/experience – woof the legal market) came from a perfect storm of being in the right place at the right time in front of the right people. Don’t spend too much time moping in your room about your lack of fedclerk interviews or else you might miss the right person at the right time. :-)
There are many avenues to success, and one thing that I’ve learned after law school is that it (law school) doesn’t tell you about all of them. You just hear of the main ones (fed clerkship, biglaw, OCI, Honor’s Program, all before October 3L year). Given that, it’s normal to think that if you didn’t get one of the avenues, you think you’re not successful. BIG FAT LIE – don’t buy into it. The market is what it is, and there’s nothing any of us can do about it. But if you look at it like you are given a way to make your own success, then it’s all opportunity and no failure. You’ll be fine – honestly. :-D
Anon
This. Great response! FWIW, also something I needed to hear today!
cbackson
I had credentials very similar to yours, and I didn’t get one either. And I applied to, like, 35 federal judges. On the first day that the judges were started to call people, all my friends were getting avalanches of calls, and I kept checking my phone…and nothing.
Admittedly, this was 2008–so I had other options. I went on to a firm, I have a job that I love, and I’m really happy and now am so glad I didn’t clerk (I’ve come to realize that being a litigator is my worst nightmare, and transactional lawyers don’t care if you didn’t clerk). But I definitely understand that awful, total strike-out feeling. And it SUCKS.
Anon3L
Monday was NOT THE DEADLINE. Judges are still contacting people. In fact, some already hired and some won’t call for months. They do not have to follow OSCAR. Stop panicking. I too am on the verge of a breakdown waiting, but I know for a fact my top judge (federal) hasn’t called anyone yet because I’m friends with her clerk.
Anon too
It’s a tough year. The economy is still in the toilet, so we are getting hundreds and hundreds of applications. I reviewed applicants for my judge this week and we literally only extended interviews to the rockstars (top 1 or 2 at Tier 1s, or top half or higher at T14s) and people recommended by friends/colleagues/former clerks of the judge. My judge is not a highly competitive judge either–senior district judge in a secondary market/circuit. I would recommend applying again to magistrate judges. I don’t think they get as many applicants, and the work is very similar.
I had what I thought were pretty schmancy stats last year too (top 25-35% at H/Y/S, secondary journal, schmancy undergrad, lots of public interest, etc.) and I very nearly struck out. The only interview I got was in my least desired city out of maybe 15 or so (and maybe 80+ apps), and no one came a-calling later on in the year. It worked out for me (and NOT for a lot of my friends, who blanketed the country but still struck out), but it was a much tougher season than I or career services anticipated, I think, and that’s true again this year (although perhaps to a slightly lesser degree).
AEK
I really feel for you— it is frustrating and depressing. You have every right to be upset after putting in so much hard work only to feel like it won’t bear fruit. Trust me, it will only be more depressing when you come to find out that half the clerks who DID get hired were not as credentialed as you but had a great connection.
So go ahead and be upset. Maybe even through the weekend. But then, I think you should try your best to accept the situation and get back to work building up your resume with your grades and activities, and get back out on the market. It sounds like you have all the tools you’ll need to succeed. And also remember that clerking will be an option for you for another few years; many, many federal judges now prefer hiring clerks with some experience. And once you graduate, you’ll never be subject to the hiring plan again!
AS
I understand the legal market is very hard right now, that you’re frustrated and afraid you’ll be unemployed when you graduate. That being said, this post comes off as kind of entitled/privileged to me.
If you want to clerk, there are plenty of state appellate and trial court clerkships that you can do, and they will open doors for federal clerkships. I did two appellate clerkships right out of law school, had the option for a federal one, and turned it down to go into private practice. I did not have ANY of your qualifications (graduated in 2005, in case you’re wondering).
Buck up. Things will get better. If you have those qualifications, I feel confident you will find SOMEthing, even if it’s not exactly what you want.
Anon on this one*
Thank you to everyone for the responses! Sometimes going through this feels very lonely and confusing. Leave it to everyone hear to lift my spirits!
This year seems to be worse than last year as only a handful of people even got offers from their biglaw firms (and last year most of the top 10-15% ended up getting offers even if it took a little while for them to trickle in). I applied to over 100 federal judges and was just hoping that something might work out. I did also apply to state judges and was feeling a little down about those as most of my friends who have state clerkships were offered an interview as soon as they sent their resume and I sent mine a while ago and have heard nothing.
It’s hard for me to network as I made the mistake of going to a higher ranked school in a market I don’t want to be in for the higher ranking and more scholarship money. Everyone said that was the way to go and that a clerkship could get me into a major market (NY, DC, LA) after graduation since I’m nowhere near any of them and would have to take a trip to go to networking events there (although maybe I should do that). Now it’s looking like I’ll have to get creative on ways to get my resume seen.
AS- I didn’t mean to come off as sounding entitled. If you noticed I just said that I wanted an opportunity. I wasn’t expecting a clerkship on a silver platter, I was hoping for the chance to interview at least once. That’s all. It’s frustrating to be told to do 1 2 and 3 for two years and then do those things and completely strike out while seeing people who aren’t involved/well rounded and only have top 10% grades get interviews. If I did nothing but sit in my apartment/the library and study all day and wasn’t on a journal or moot court or involved in leadership activities then I could be top 10% too. I know I could b/c I am busy all year and still manage to only be .05 away from top 10%. But I followed what our OCS said to do in trying to “become more than just my grades” and it appears to have backfired. That’s the biggest frustration.
Thank you again everyone. I’m going to take this morning off and then after class tonight try to come up with a new plan.
Anon on this one*
*meant to say here lol. Just woke up so forgive the typos…
Also, I think I’m going to be proactive and sign up for WW to try to lose those 10lbs I appear to have gained! That problem I at least know I can tackle at this point!
Anonymous
Not all judges follow the hiring plan, although most do. At any rate, give yourself a few hours to feel bummed and then get to work. If you really want to clerk, apply to federal magistrate judges and state supreme and appellate court judges. If you like litigation, apply to the PD, prosecutor, and city and county attorneys as well and consider joining the local Inn of Court. Start networking more for firm jobs by joining the student affiliate of the state bar or the Inn of Court. I’m sympathetic to your situation and it’s perfectly normal to engage in self pity, but you’re not going to get a job if you let yourself wallow in it. Good luck!
JAS
My understanding is that OSCAR lists Monday 9/13 as the *first* day judges can begin contacting people, not the last…it seems many of them may not have finished wading through applications yet. If you have different information, I definitely feel for you…. and if you are right, my day just got a lot worse too : (
MB
I clerked twice, federal district and federal appellate and I didn’t get either through the normal process. Things I wish I had known as a 3L:
(1) Not all judges who are on the hiring plan actually act quickly and make calls right away. In 2007, I got calls months after I thought the clerkship thing was over. In particular, judges in smaller cities in the southwest seem to solicit applications and then wait to do anything with them. You can add applications now to judges you passed over the first time around if they still have a clerkship posted on OSCAR.
(2) Some judges hire late and do not accept resumes during the hiring plan period at all. The mad scramble is as unpleasant for judges as it is for applicants. Keep checking OSCAR over the course of the year and check district court websites as well if there are particular districts you are interested in for late-posted clerkships.
(3) Some judges lose clerks they hired in the fall during the year and end up having to hire late. I interviewed with a judge who had someone back out in the spring because she decided to become a farmer rather than a lawyer.
(4) Apply to magistrate clerkships. You get good experience, learn how discovery works, and make connections that can land you a district court clerkship afterward, if you still want one.
(5) Even in a normal economy, highly qualified applicants don’t always get clerkships. If you do not get a clerkship in this cycle, apply again after you’ve had some work experience if you still want to do it. One of my coclerks at the appellate level was shut out as a 3L and applied again after practicing for two years. Many judges prefer applicants with work experience.
govvie girl
Touchy-feely Dr. Phil alert: Yes, it totally sucks when you have done all of the work to achieve a goal and then life interferes and….POOF!… you get slapped in the face. I have experienced a similar career disappointment (denied military promotion) but over time have realized that what I thought was SUPPOSED to happen or what I thought SHOULD have happened just did not in fact happen – and it was not a ding on the core of my being, competence or acceptability. I also thought, why did I devote myself to this over the last x years? “Supposed to”s and “should”s often do not mesh with reality and that is absolutely nothing personal. Yes, I also saw people with frankly less capable attributes get promoted, but these things are so subjective and situational that comparison just doesn’t work. Final two thoughts: Redefine your success (my definition is now various accomplishments at work, hitting a good tennis shot, helping a friend, etc., vs. solely making the next promotion list) and be proud of the butt-kicking job you did in law school. No one else did your job for you. I also relate to the weight gain…but give yourself a break. When you’re able to, you’ll do something about it (WW, ,etc.).
Anon
Govvie girl – thank you for your service to your country!
Thalia
Thank you for posting something that comes in a range of sizes, from petite to plus. I love JNY although I do wish their suits came in more than just heathered gray or black.
M
Great suit and the dress for business lady-look.
M
What do you think about a little green or gray dress like this one:
http://www.talbots.com/is/image/Talbots/03036033_6232?$zoom$
http://www.talbots.com/is/image/Talbots/03036130_0156?$zoom$
It is very professional and elegant.
Ru
The green dress is nice. Now I want a green dress.
Corporate Tool
But not a real green dress that’s cruel.
Sorry, something in me forces me to quote that lyric every time I think of “green dress.”
Anonymous
Love both!
Chicago K
I like both!
Parisienne
Is this really the best place to obtain/share an ob/gyn recommendation? Don’t you want to start by picking the hospital where you would want to have a baby and then see what doctors are there with privileges and read all about them on the Internet? I always look for a facility whree all of the doctors are on salary. This can be hard to find if you are not near a big city.
anon
D.C. has several great hospitals – so choosing a good practice and a doctor you like is a good place to start is a good place to start.
ob gyn
Both looking good !