ByElizabeth Hours Updated
Comments 216 Comments

Wednesday’s Workwear Report: Soft Shirtdress

This post may contain affiliate links and Corporette® may earn commissions for purchases made through links in this post. As an Amazon Associate, I earn from qualifying purchases.

Our daily workwear reports suggest one piece of work-appropriate attire in a range of prices.

As far as I’m concerned, one can never have enough black dresses at one’s disposal. Perhaps it’s the New Yorker in me, but I struggle to find an occasion where they’re not appropriate attire. This “soft shirtdress” from White House Black Market would work nicely for just about any office dress code and 90% of the dressy social events that I attend. And if that’s not enough, it’s machine washable!

The dress is $150 at White House Black Market and comes in sizes XXS-XL, as well as petite sizes.

This post contains affiliate links and Corporette® may earn commissions for purchases made through links in this post. For more details see here. Thank you so much for your support!

Sales of note for 3/26/25:

  • Nordstrom – 15% off beauty (ends 3/30) + Nordy Club members earn 3X the points!
  • Ann Taylor – Extra 50% off sale + additional 20% off + 30% off your purchase
  • Banana Republic Factory – Friends & Family Event: 50% off purchase + extra 20% off
  • Eloquii – 50% off select styles + extra 50% off all sale
  • J.Crew – 30% off tops, tees, dresses, accessories, sale styles + warm-weather styles
  • J.Crew Factory – Shorts under $30 + extra 60% off clearance + up to 60% off everything
  • M.M.LaFleur – 25% off travel favorites + use code CORPORETTE15 for 15% off
  • Spanx – Lots of workwear on sale, some up to 70% off
  • Talbots – $64.50 spring cardigans + BOGO 50% off everything else

216 Comments

  1. How common are signing bonuses these days? Position is in-house counsel at tech company. Is the fact that we’re two-thirds of the way to year end bonuses a valid basis to suggest a higher signing bonus?

    1. I asked my Dad, Anon, and actually it is the opposite. If your any good, you will get a full bonus at year end, and if your not, you won’t. Paying you more upfront at a time when your untested would not be good for the company’s bottom line, and that is why it is different being in house. When your in a firm, it is the busness you bring in that counts, and that is how you get paid more or less. I started with no bonus the first year b/c I had no cleints, but now I am responsible for over 50% of our cleints and 75% of our new cleints, so I am making more $ then ever. Good luck to you in house. For now, I am sticking with what I have here!

    2. Pretty common in tech, not as sure for in-house legal. Go ahead and ask. You can also ask for your full years’ bonus instead of a prorated bonus (although this may be less commonly given than the signing bonus). Check out fishbowl (app) if it’s a larger tech company and ask what to ask for.

    3. I asked for one (in-house legal, same reasoning) and they pushed back but raised my base instead.

    4. Worth the ask – they may not do sign-on but will be willing to give you some credit for year end, etc. bonus. I’d position it as “I would expect $X if I stay through bonus payment at my current job – is a signon bonus or other consideration available to replace some of that?”

    5. We only do them for candidates that we really want that are walking away from non-vested equity grants. That’s because bonuses are uncertain. If someone had a guaranteed bonus, we might.

    6. Yes signing bonuses are usually meant to cover one time costs like contingent compensation left behind. Do calculate that yourself, and include things like 401k match/vesting in addition to your 2/3 earned bonus. You should get that all in a sign on.

    7. If you are coming from biglaw, they’re likely going to say that you knew you’d be taking a paycut to come in-house and not match. (Hunch that bonuses are not going to be outstanding in most biglaw this year anyway….).

      However, I’ve seen between 10-25 in the past year, and MLA’s in-house reports are stating that signing bonuses are more common. That said, conventional negotiating wisdom is to ask for a higher base, as that’s forever, versus a one-time bonus.

      I’m in big tech in the Valley, non FAANG.

      Fishbowl will have anecdata, but it often skews high.

  2. I have the really bad habit of gnawing on my cuticles and peeling them when stressed. this week has been hands-down insane and now my cuticles are raw and swollen in places.
    I am looking for advice on how to treat them (they are painful) in the short term, and also how to quit this habit in the long run. I seemed to do it a lot less when my nails were manicured but I don’t have the time or money to do that regularly right now (and i don’t have the patience to do a good job on them myself).
    Thanks in advance!

    1. For easy manicures – do a base coat and nothing else. I like the one from Nails Inc. Your nails will be shiny and feel done, but it doesn’t matter if you do it a little sloppy or get behind on maintenance.

    2. In the short term, use nippers to clip off any loose bits you’ll pick at, and slather with aquafor to speed up healing. In the long run, frequent use of cuticle creams (burts bees, etc) will keep them soft which will help stop little dry spots you want to pick at. Keep cuticle nippers on hand all the time to clip off anything you find yourself picking at.

    3. Wash them with soap and warm water and anywhere the skin is open, treat them like a wound. Neosporin, bandaid if it’s bad. Then focus on gentle healing with someone plain like Neutrogena hand cream and sleep with socks on your hands like a baby. Then talk to your doctor about your anxiety! The nails are just a symptom.

      1. Ehh, everybody gets stressed. Some people also chew on their nails when they’re stressed. It doesn’t necessarily mean they need medical intervention.

    4. I do the same thing, and I’m also trying to work on it.

      To heal the raw/swollen/bleeding bits, I go old school with Neosporin & bandaids, at least for a day to bring down the swelling & stop the bleeding. If you absolutely can’t go to work with bandaids on your fingers, at least do it overnight.

      Once they are starting to heal, I keep a jar of cuticle cream on my desk, and I try to massage it in several times a day.

      Like you, the only way I don’t pick at my cuticles is to do a manicure, even if it’s just a quick couple of coats of light paint on my nails. I know you said you don’t have time to do a manicure yourself, but can you at least swipe on some pale pink nail polish?

    5. I really like the Sally Hansen cuticle repair serum. It’s in a blue tube. It seems to turn my cuticles from dry ragged things into smooth and moisturized cuticles instantaneously. It’s sorta miraculous, IMO! I find if my cuticles are kept moisturized with no ragged bits I will avoid picking at them. This stuff works well for me.

    6. I’m sorry to say that the only thing that stops me from doing this is nicely painted/manicured nails. I block time off on Sunday nights to do my own manicure, it’s that important to me.

      I also actively sit on my hand(s) when I am bored/anxious. I tend to pick when driving so I either force myself to 10/2 or I sit on the hand that isn’t on the wheel. Similarly, at my desk, if I am not typing, I sit on my hands. Yes, I am in my 40s, and yes, this is what I have to do to prevent this bad habit.

    7. I do this too…I find that having fake nails helps me since they’re too thick to pick at my cuticles. Cuticle oil or balm also helps but I’m lazy about using it. Have you tried going on anti anxiety medication? It helps me on a normal basis but isn’t quite enough for the really stressful times.

    8. I was a horrible nail biter for like 20 years. The ONLY thing that worked was treating my anxiety. Once my mental health was under control, the urge to bite just disappeared.

    9. My therapist happens to specialize in body focused repetitive behaviors and I do this as well. She advises have fidget toys on hand to fiddle with instead. I have a couple acupressure massage rings that work well for this, I just roll them up and down my fingers instead of picking. I like these at work because they are unobtrusive. I also have some kinetic sand and other squishy toys I like to play with when I’m watching TV or sitting around with friends. The kinetic sand is a big hit with all my fidget prone friends. I also second keeping the cuticles well moisturized and nails filed so there are no rough edges to start picking on.

      1. There are rings you can get that have beads that spin around, too – an old coworker swore by them. Search “anxiety rings” or “fidget rings.”

    10. I used to bite my cuticles and finger skin to bleeding and echoing other commenters that the only that that’s stopped it is regular manicures. My GP actually recommended trying short acrylic nails and getting those stopped the habit completely. I wonder what it is about them, since whenever I get my acrylics off, the habit comes right back. I wish I had a better answer–I feel like I’ve tried every treatment under the sun and this was the only thing that worked.

    11. Get a nice manicure then try hypnosis! We took our elementary aged son to a hypnotist who worked with smokers for his thumbsucking and he stopped completely. He just needed other tools (breathing and visualization techniquest) for when he needed to self-soothe. So do you.

    12. I do this too. I don’t think it’s anxiety because it doesn’t seem to be tied to my stress levels. I’m going to try some of these suggestions.

    13. I am a huge nail biter/cuticle biter when stressed. Things that help are keeping my nails trimmed and painted, having tons of lotion available everywhere, keeping an emery board+nail trimmer on me to smooth out snags, getting a manicure before weeks that are going to be bad, and in the absolute worst case, putting bandaids over fingers so i just can’t bite at em.

  3. For Birkenstocks, how comfy are the “soft” versions? I ruin suede fast, so maybe the Birk-pleather straps would be a good bet or leather (but not suede or oiled leather or metallic finishes). Feet are sore and need something for casual wear. Got some flat-form sandals but they are pretty vs having enough squish for all day wear.

    1. They are very comfy. I wear mine all the time. I like that the sole flexes.

    2. I wear the narrow soft foot bed and love them. I can wear for a 10 mile day with no issues

    3. The soft footbed versions are a great “introductory” birkenstock. I wore out my soft footbed pair after a couple of years, and then went to the regular footbed. My feet were “trained” and it didn’t feel like I was walking on lumps, it just felt correct and supportive.

      1. This is good to know, I find regular Birkenstocks intolerable, they are so uncomfortable.

        1. Just an FYI I learned from a Birkenstock rep at my local shoe store –

          2,4,6,8 is the break in schedule. That’s how many hours you should wear the shoes for each of the first four days you wear them to get the footbed broken in.

        2. Also, make sure the straps are snug. This isn’t a shoe where your foot should move around a lot.

    4. I haven’t tried the soft footbeds, but I would highly highly recommend the polyurethane ones. I have two pairs, and they are my favorite shoes in the world. I wear them all the time for general running around, but I would absolutely choose them for theme park days or other high-walking days.

    5. If you are not familiar with Birks, I’d suggest trying the regular, soft footbed, and EVA versions. I actually find the regular footbed more comfortable than the soft footbed. The oiled leather and metallic finishes are actually pretty stain-resistant. And try multiple strap styles too because different styles work for different feet. Even the regular and big buckle Arizonas fit differently.

      1. Are there stores? I was expecting to order but would love to try on. Feel like I have been in anything but the grocery store since 2019.

        1. You can find them at department stores, but probably not the whole selection they have.

        2. There actually are a few specialty Birkenstock stores out there. “Comfort” or “walking” shoe stores tend to carry Birks. You can also find a decent selection at Journeys and sometimes at larger Nordstrom stores–like at least maybe one soft footbed and one regular footbed style to try.

        3. They have stores. I’d go to the website and see if there is one near you. I used to go to one near Old Orchard Mall in the Chicago area. Not sure if it’s still there since I don’t wear Briks anymore. But it was nice to have so many options.

    6. The oiled leather is the most durable and spot-resistant. The Birk Flor (the fake leather) is not as durable and I don’t recommend it unless it’s your only choice for ethical reasons. I can’t comment on the soft sole – I like breaking in the original footbed, personally. It’s part of the appeal for me.

  4. Nice classic dress! I’m seeking recommendations for a real estate attorney in Ft Myers/Cape Coral, FL area – does anyone work or know folks there?

    1. Are you looking for someone to assist with a transaction or with a dispute? Totally different set of folks and letting us know at the outset will help get you to the right person.

  5. How long does it take to get over a relationship? My exboyfriend and I broke up in May and he moved out in early June. I’m really not feeling any better than I did in June, although part of that might be that he called last week to wish me a happy birthday. We were together for 2 and a half years, and lived together for 20 month. I really thought we were going to get married. The break up was technically my choice, but not really because it was because he couldn’t give me a timeline for our future and we are in our mid-30s. Anyways, I still feeling horrible and just needed to vent

    2. Grief doesn’t have a timetable. I wish it did. In the words of Senior Attorney, the only way out is through. Keep doing all the self-care things until one day you discover you don’t hurt as bad. You thought you were going to get married and were together for two years – this was a major relationship and will take time to heal from.

    3. There is no timeline but, in general, a breakup is like a death and I always thought it could take a full year to get over a death. You have to experience each season without the person. Go through holidays, Valentine’s Day, create new routines. I think also speaking with a therapist and spending time with friends good. Starting to date again too early could be a double edge award. If you meet someone great, then it’s fine but if you have horrible dates it can just make you more miserable.

    4. Hugs to you. Two and a half years of dating plus twenty months of living together, mid-thirties? He’s never going to commit to you. (It’s not a popular opinion, or at least results in some flaming, because you’re supposed to hold out hope or let him move at his own pace or someone’s friend’s second cousin’s college roommate got married to her boyfriend after seven years of living together.) If you’re looking for a lifelong partner, you have not yet found him, and what helps you move on is understanding that you’re now free to find that man.

      1. +1. Your person is out there and now you are free to meet him. Try not to miss him too much. It’ s not like he wants to be with you and can’t because he died. He could be with you but won’t commit so he chooses not to be.

    5. I definitely think him calling to wish you a happy birthday is contributing to you feeling down at the moment. Were you doing better before that? I’d ask him not to contact you for a while, even on birthdays, and see if that helps. Sometimes you have to take all hope away from yourself, especially given how much you liked him.

      1. This! I was feeling over my ex and confidently so, until I saw him at a funeral. Don’t say anything to him though, just block him so you don’t see his messages.

        1. That too! I don’t know why I was thinking he’d have to agree to this, lol. BTMFA, Anon. ;)

    6. Someone posted recently about a breakup and was advised to do new things that she hadn’t done with her ex – different restaurants, events, a weekend trip somewhere. If you stayed in the residence, then maybe change that up, too. New paint, a piece of art, etc. can help make the place feel yours.

    7. I think it probably takes at least 3-4 months to start being to breathe again, and then another few months before it doesn’t hurt all the time. Cutting contact hurts but in the long run it will help you heal faster instead of having a line to always wonder what if?

      I disagree with the idea of “getting under someone else” to get over your ex since I didn’t work for me, but I definitely agree that it helps to go new places, do new things, make new happy memories by yourself or a good support system to replace the emptiness.

  6. I like this dress in theory but it looks see thru on the bottom in the picture so not sure how it would fare IRL.

  7. Might still be too early in the season for this, but I’m looking for long sleeved cozier tshirts. Thicker/fuzzier than a tshirt but not as heavy as a sweatshirt. A couple years ago Old Navy had their “plush knit” that was good for this, but they don’t look like they have them anymore and my old ones are looking rough. Costco had a few last year. Ideally camo (any color) or small print.

    But if anyone is looking for a sweatshirt rec, I absolutely love the Coaster Luxe from Athleta. Size down.

    1. When Uniqlo heat tech comes out, their fleece tees are great. And check out the collars — they had one with a woodsy brand last winter that had some great pieces. I had some of each type and my teens liberated them from my closet and now I need more. So also curious re replies.

    2. I have a couple from Kohls. I think it is their Sonoma brand. I WFH and they are perfect for fall weather.

    3. BR usually has something like this (luxespun, I think) but you probably need to wait a bit longer before it’s in stock again. It’s a fall and winter item.

    4. Amazon rec incoming, mea culpa.

      So this is definitely a sweatshirt, but it’s one of my favorite items to wear: Daily Ritual Women’s Long-Sleeve Crewneck Sweatshirt with Side Cutouts. It’s soft and cozy but doesn’t have acrylic, which pills and holds onto smells.

    5. Eddie Bauer will have thermal shirts and the like, but you’re shopping too early. This type of stuff tends to hit stores in Oct-Nov.

    6. The athleta mindset sweatshirt is a VERY lightweight sweatshirt. I have three of them, and they are more heavy t-shirt than sweatshirt. The band on the neck also lays very smoothly, so they read “sweater” on zoom calls and not “sweatshirt” which is a giant bonus.

      JCrew factory also has very thin sweatshirts that might work for you.

    7. Talbots has what I think of are “fancy sweatshirts”. They had striped and floral ones that are not too heavy but cosy.

  8. Is high-$ skincare better than things like Neutragena (or even Clinique if you go up a price point)? I don’t know if $400 of the stuff my derm (and others) sell is worth it or if my $ are better spent on Botox / laser at the derm and bottles of hope in a jar at Walgreens. Derm is for acne and roseacea. Also getting rid of prior acne scars and weird redness. Skin is very oily. I’ve used sunscreen and have had office jobs since my early 20s. Sometimes I feel that if there is a Kirkland version of something, nothing will perform better at any price point. But I’m approaching 50, so it’s showtime and maybe not time for skimping where spending would be worth it.

    1. I am no skincare expert but am 54 and started Rodan & Fields about 6 months ago. I know, I know, but–it has made a visible difference in my skin. I let an acquaintance talk me into a regimen (ugh–it pains me to even type that word) and getting everything in a package with just 4 products–cleanser, toner (I haven’t used a toner since I was 13 and did not know that was something grown-ups should be using), morning cream (with sunscreen) and evening cream (with magical something) is all I could handle. My acquaintance keeps trying to sell me more, and she has no idea what an accomplishment it is that I’ve stuck with this religiously since I started. Before, I half-heartedly washed my face with something or another, used sunscreen most of the time when I was going to be at a baseball game (which was a lot–high school and travel baseball) and used an AHA product several times a week but not religiously because it wasn’t pleasant. Anyway, all that is to say that in my very limited experience, yes–a slightly better product that comes in a nice package with no smell is worth it.

      1. Is it working better because you are using it and actually doing a routine? Or the ac TU Al stuff you are using? Some of each? Maybe it is a bit like how new sneakers can inspire the actual use of such sneakers.

        1. Both I think. For me, it turned out to be important that everything come ready to work together, be very few steps, be numbered (the AM cream has a white cap, the PM has a dark cap–it’s like Garanimals for skincare), and not smell bad. I’ve always been super skeptical of high-end (even moderately high-end) skin products, so I was as surprised as anyone when I looked in the mirror one day and thought, “Hey, that’s better.” I didn’t have the bandwidth or, frankly, care enough, to research multiple new products and work out my own routine. Someone posted once here some 50s-age influencer’s skincare routine, and boy howdy was it a lot of steps. Ain’t nobody got time for that!

      2. I hate saying it – Arbonne cleaned up my maskne. Something about their gentle cleanser did what store-brand cleaners did not.

    2. I have rosacea and some hormonal acne. What’s worked for me is: periodic laser, monthly chemical peel. And then daily Avene Antirougers Cleanser, Neova Redness Relief Moisturizer, Soolantra.

    3. For scars – you should do laser or microneedling, everything else is just hope in a bottle. For everything else, there are cheap and effective drugstore/OTC remedies (aside from your acne meds). For my intermittent rosacea, the cheap sulfur ointment (de la cruz), is fab – my derm confirms. Double cleansing, some sort of acne treatment, a light moisturizer, and a sunscreen you are willing to use enough of (three fingers method!) every day are the most important things you can do. Beyond that – you can definitely add in vitamin C but acne treatments usually take the place of retinols (too many exfoliants can irritate your skin). At my age (over 40, 2 courses of accutane and now rosacea) the best things I do are double cleanse, treat breakouts gently (the acne patches help stop picking) and wear a sunscreen daily so that your skin can heal itself. I prefer Asian sunblocks and oils for double cleansing but micellar water, a cetaphil cleanser, and the trader joes super goop dupe work well too!

        1. Not the person you’re responding to but double cleansing is usually at the end of the day. The first step is usually a balm or something oily to get off your makeup. The second step is usually a liquid cleanser to remove anything the balm cleanser left behind.

          Some people use Micellar water for the first cleanse. I don’t prefer that but it’s popular.

          My favorite balm cleanser is the glow recipe papaya one.

        2. +1 to the before – skincare influencers compare it to showering – step one is taking off your clothes (makeup/sunblock/sweat) with the cleansing oil/blam/micellar water step two is cleaning the skin with a facial cleanser (getting in the shower). I don’t spend a ton of money on stuff I was down the drain so I use some combination of the Kose Softymo Speedy oil/Innisfree cleansing oil/Banila co clean it zero balm depending on what’s on sale. Cleaners is usually the CosRx good morning cleanser. I prefer the asian oils/balms as they’re designed to go on dry ‘dirty’ skin, be rubbed in with your hands, and then emulsify (turn whiteish) and rinse away cleanly. Micellar water leaves a film that breaks me out but other people like the added moisture so it’s ymmv.
          As an added bonus – these cleansing oils also work great at getting body sunblock off without a ton of scrubbing for kids (soap alone never removes the super heavy sunblocks imho and my kiddo isn’t great at scrubbing enough .)

    4. The best skin care products are the products you will actually use. Never gone all the way to the $400 stuff from the derm but am a definite fan of La Mer and Augustine Bader – both of which look rather pretty on my countertop and, hence, increase the odds of my actually using them.

      1. +1 I trialed a Sunday Riley set and while I was using The Ordinary products pretty regularly beforehand, found my skin looked even better with the Sunday Riley set. Most of the benefit probably comes from uber consistent use but I also am more likely to consistently use products I paid more for so who knows!

        1. I feel like 90% of what works in a Sunday Riley skincare routine is Good Genes! I now just mix and match that with cheaper products for the other steps.

          1. I really liked Good Genes but the colossal waste of packaging really bothers me (all of SR products with the fancy boxes). I tried the Mad Hippie AHA Exfoliating Peel and I really feel like it’s as good, if not better, than SR and a heck of a lot cheaper ($29.99 for 1 oz. vs.$85 for 1 oz.). Ulta usually has a BOGO 40% off sale of the Mad Hippie as well.

    5. Have you tried a retinoid? I use tretinoin for acne and it has definitely improved my skin’s texture. Ask your derm; I’m not sure if they’re contraindicated for rosacea.

      1. I have mild rosacea and I use a low concentration tretinoin + azaleic acid. I’m pleased with the results, but I still need occasional laser treatments for the accumulated rosacea damage.

    6. Skinceuticals CE Ferulic made me a believer. My routine is not 100% high end, but that serum works so well for me.

    7. From my experience [and I have worked in global skincare and pharma companies], when it comes to skincare, it is not about price tags, it is about a] the ingredients, b] whether these match your needs and c] regular and proper use of said products.
      Seems that you already have some good habits [seeing a derm, using SPF daily], but what used to be good-enough before is no longer matching your skin’s [or your esthetic] needs.
      My general recommendation for any skincare question is for people to educate themselves a bit, so that you understand the functions of skincare ingredients [Dr Dray on YT is a great source of information] and then choose products by their ingredients that match your needs.
      Given you are already going to a derm, I would recommend to talk about your needs with her/him and see what the proposal is, apply critical thinking and decide if it is good for you. My 2 cents are:
      •Shallow acne scars can become less visible with use of retinoid creams. Mine got smoother after 2-3y on 0.05% tretinoin cream.
      •Deeper acne scars will probably respond only to laser. No magic potion will help you here. Laser will probably require several sessions, so take this into account [recovery time, financials]. But it may still be worth it.
      •In my case, use of tretinoin and azelaic acid helped reduce the oiliness. They also helped with redness, unified the skintone and long-term, tretinoin helps with skin aging.
      •There is a good chance you skin will benefit from regular use of gentle, basic products: non-drying cleanser [I use Shiseido make-up removing oil, massage into skin for 1-2mins, then wash off with a gentle foaming cleanser], Paula’s Choice Calm toner [contains glycyrrhiza extract, which calms my redness-prone skin], a.m. SPF cream [I have a few which I like to rotate: La Roche-Possay Shaka SPF50 for face EU version, ISDIN Age Repair Water Fusion SPF, Purito SPF50]. For night, I apply calming toner, basic moisturizer [Cerave Moisturizing cream or Eucerin UREA cream] and then tretinoin cream followed by azelaic acid cream. From time to time, I use Paula’s Choice Vitamin C cream as a spot treatment [it somehow reduces redness of my skin] and Salicylic Acid 2% toner [if I feel my skin needs extra exfoliation, but using tretinoin and azelaic acid daily means I use the toner maybe 1x month].
      •If you are looking for some extra boost, I would consider a facial at a good salon [my friends had a good experience with thermolifting] or addressing specific wrinkles with botox.
      In short, if you want to splurge, splurge on treatments [botox, facial], not high-end cosmetics.

      1. +a million to all of this.
        Fwiw, the reason I default to asian skincare is that they are SUPER transparent about what is in their products as a marketing strategy vs. European/American brands that don’t disclose the % of active ingredients they use. Asian brands tend to assume their consumers are VERY savvy and want lots of details about actives – is it a level that does anything? or did they dilute the ingredient below effectiveness but still claim it’s there in the marketing? is the facial cleanser low ph? do the active ingredients work together well? etc.

  9. I am looking for work pants for fall, in a contemporary silhouette, stretchy and comfy fabric – I am 18w, apple shaped, short waist. Ideally pull on style and/or a stretchy waist but a sleek look overall, with a good drape and fall, no stiff/shiny fabrics. Which brands/stores and specific models and cuts should I look at? They must be available / delivered in Canada, open to spend around 100US/150 CAD, would prefer to spend less but could go higher too for a “magic” pair.

    1. I’m the same size and shape as you and I’m Canadian too. (Are you me?) I recently bought the Jamie pants from J Crew Factory and love them! They pull on, straight leg, and they’re very drapy and comfortable. I buy a ton of clothes at J Crew Factory actually because they have extended sizing and I like their styles. The downside is shipping to Canada is $20 and it can be a bit slow.

    3. I wear an 8P, so I’m not sure about size availability, but I otherwise have a similar shape. I have several pairs of NYDJ ponte pants in different cuts that are now several years old, but have held up well and sound like what you’re describing. I know they still sell similar ones and are often on sale.

    4. Universal Standard, either the ponte pants or the moro pants. They are fantastic.

    6. Look at Talbots (might need to wait a few weeks), LL bean and lands end. Talbots is a pain to order from because of their process to pay duties and taxes), but they have frequent sales and free shipping periodically.

        1. Didn’t help that the DCCC helped defeat some of them because they thought a Trumpist candidate would be easier to beat in the general election (see: Peter Meijer). Jamie Rankin basically dismissing it as “that’s how politics is played” while himself purporting to stand for something higher deeply depressed me.

          2. yeah they did that in a bunch of races. It’s like we learned nothing from 2016.

    2. If she runs for POTUS, who will be her running mate? Only 10 R’s were willing to vote for impeachment, pretty thin bench there. Paul Ryan, maybe?

      1. Agreed. I don’t like her policies, but I admire what she has done in the past year with the Jan 6 stuff.

        Wouldn’t she have to win a nomination, and then announce a VP? If so, I would think it would be Adam Kinzinger.

          1. I was not surprised by Kansas personally. I live in a red state where left-of-center *policies* win if put to a vote, but republicans dominate elections.

            The Democratic party just really sucks at talking to people and winning elections.

          2. In addition to the Kansas results, Nebraska is not going into special session to discuss abortion because the votes are not there to do anything.

          4. Rust belt state resident here. I was not at all surprised about Kansas actually and I do not think Liz Cheney would have a snowball’s chance in h3ll in a Republican primary. You have to remember that Kansas was a general election, with Democrats and independents voting, plus a substantial number of Republican voters want some form of abortion access even if it’s just an exception for rape, incest and life of the mother. A total ban on abortion is actually pretty unpopular in the US as a whole. Liz Cheney would be trying to win a *Republican* primary. Yes, a handful of Dems and Independents will cross over and vote for her, but the vast majority of voters will be people who actively identify as Rs, and something like 80% of self-identifying Republican voters like Trump. There’s no way she would have a chance unless there were so many pro-Trump candidates that the vote got split among all of them and the anti-Trump votes all coalesced behind her. That seems unlikely to happen.

          5. Yeah, I was not shocked about Kansas, I think there’s a small but non-zero chance Beto can win Texas, but I think there’s absolutely no way Cheney could win a presidential primary. Most voters in a Republican presidential primary are part of Trump’s base.

          1. How open do you think she’d be to running as a Democrat? Seeing as the Dems have sabotaged the person who should have been their female candidate in 2024.

          5. Yes, Harris. The administration should have been setting her up to run in 2024. Instead they make her the face of the administration on no-win issues.

    3. me too. i applaud her and wish there were more people like her. i am so scared for the future of this country.

    4. This is why I am not a fan of primaries. It just leads to the extremes of the party getting the nomination. Be curious to see how Alaska’s new ranked choice system works out.

      1. It’s going to be interesting! This first look at it will be a little weird, since the 4th candidate dropped out and we’re not doing ranked choice with 4 candidates like intended.

    5. OMG have you seen this ridiculous piece in today’s WaPo? https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/08/16/cheney-jilted-by-gop/

      Quote: “Instead of constantly reproaching Republicans for their choices, everyone should stipulate the following: The Republican Party has some lingering conservative leanings, but it is now the populist, Make America Great Again party of its modern leader, Donald Trump.” As though that were a normal and okay thing…

      1. Umm, I wouldn’t read that thinking the author is trying to say it’s a totally normal thing. The point of that op-ed is that the GOP is too far gone to treat it like we used to.

        1. Did you read the whole thing? Have you read the rest of Gary’s oeuvre? I wish you were right but I fear not.

      2. The populist part is a very good thing, Senior Attorney. The working class has gotten screwed to hell in modern America. It’s a structural problem, not a social safety net problem. Their jobs are being offshored to China. CEOs are making many multiples of what they made a few decades ago. The top 1% and 5% are making far more money than they did fifteen years ago, and it’s driving up the price of everything from cars to houses to college.

        I am beyond thrilled that Donald Trump told the libertarians to pound sand. The libertarian solution for growing the economy is to eliminate nondiscrimination laws, FMLA, the minimum wage, etc.; radically increase immigration for skilled and unskilled positions; and more “free trade.” I use quotes because it’s functionally regulatory arbitrage: manufacture items in countries without minimum wage laws, workers comp, OSHA-type protections, or environmental protections, and then bring back the sweatshop-made, environmentally-destructive items to the U.S. to undercut items made here.

        Cheney’s website talks about energy independence, which I guess is good for American wallets and jobs, but that’s really about it. Her health care section is about telehealth (which is fine and good, but does nothing to address the insanity of the American health care system), and I guess she has a nice section on American agriculture. Nothing about jobs, American manufacturing, immigration reform (our system is insane and cruel), advancing maternal health, making it easier for people to start families, etc.

        1. Haha NONE of those topics you mention are of any interest to the GOP. Jobs? working class? You understand that the GOP is there to serve the top 1% and 5% and will do NOTHING to help address salary inequities and imbalance? Keep supporting Trump like others did and then were surprised when they didn’t benefit from Medicaid expansion etc.

          1. Right and they are admitting they are going to gut Social Security and Medicare if they take back Congress in the midterms.

        2. I don’t think SA’s concern is the “populist party” part of that quote…

          1. Right. It’s the MAGA part which is code for straight up white nationalist facism. And I don’t care whose feelings get hurt when you call it what it is.

    6. While I disagree with the vast majority of her positions over the years, I’m sad that it’s now a rarity for a Republican Congressperson to HAVE actual positions.

  11. I have two pairs of elastic waist pants that I swear have the same pieces for the front and back. Like way too much stomach room. No room for the tucchus. Have pants companies decided to fire their patter makers like if you elasticize the waist no measurements but approximate girth matter anymore? I just want to burn them in a fire (but need to find replacement pants first).

    1. This is the opposite problem I usually have, so tell me about these pants that are awful for you! I want to buy them.

      1. Not the OP but I find that the marine layer Alison’s have too much stomach fabric for me and not enough in the butt. Full elastic waist. Size up. They run XS SML XL.

  12. wish me luck, y’all – my inlaws are coming to stay for a week. off to go stress clean my entire house.

    1. Eesh, luck and sanity. My family has a joke about “mother-in-law pills,” usually aimed at husbands, but my ILs came for a week once and my mom asked if I had taken mine, and I said, “Yes! They are called not taking the entire week off work and making time for exercise.” Hope it goes well.

    2. Yikes good luck!! And I will share my tip for in-law visits which is to have conference calls that I will take in my bedroom but I am really just watching Netflix.

      2. Yep I retreat to my bedroom to “work” a lot when MIL is here visiting. I actually like her, but I’m an introvert and just don’t want 24/7 togetherness with someone who isn’t my husband/kid/parents.

    3. Also heading to see my in-laws and spent my last therapy session strategizing about it! I wrote down my values and reminder to take a walk everyday! Good luck to everyone!

    4. My in laws stay that long 2x a year. I definitely stress clean before they arrive. My baseboards never look so clean! Also sneak away to just chill out a while (I “need” to go fold laundry)
      My best tip is spending unnecessarily long washing dishes and cleaning the kitchen in the evening. When in actuality I’m having a glass of wine and peace and quiet. Obviously only works because our kitchen is out of eye sight of dining/living.

  13. I’ve been feeling a little out of sorts lately, but have tried getting back into the rhythm of going to the gym, a class I like, doing activities that “give me energy” like jigsaw puzzles and (actual) gardening and omg its helped so much. I just need that structure in my life I guess. It makes me more able to get through tasks that I have like executive functioning issues with, like packing and cooking etc. And I feel happier / less stressed overall. Just had to share this success with someone.

    2. Good for you!! My daily routine is to take a bath and on the days that I don’t, I am definitely grumpier!

    3. I’m so glad for you! It’s really hard to get started on that sort of thing. Send me some of that mojo, please.

      Also, autocorrect just predicted that I was trying to say sort zucchini, which…. I guess is on topic for gardening?

    4. I ramped up my social life in a major way lately, and it has made me so much better at everything! I am billing more at work even.

    5. Nice! I’ve done this somewhat too lately. I think the changing seasons (it’s solidly fall where I live) make it easier for me to make changes in my day-to-day. Plus the back-to-school feeling which I love.

  14. A good friend’s father just passed away – we’re mid-40s, dad was nearing 80, so not completely unexpected, but things happened quickly this past week. What should I do for her? We’re local. She’s an only child so they probably won’t necessarily have people staying with them, although she has brothers-in-laws. Her mom is still around but in the memory ward with dementia/Alz.

    1. How good of a friend are you? Good enough that you can go hang out with her for a few days during all the logistics and decisions that need to be made, and simply be there to help her think through the next thing or be a sounding board, help her remember to eat and sleep, etc.? Death ushers in SO many details and logistics, along with (often) a mental fog or cloud that makes being on top of things quite difficult.

      1. This. After my mom passed unexpectedly we had so many decisions to make because she had not made any arrangements. I was overwhelmed. My brother and I muddled through together. I can’t imagine doing it alone. Offer to call caterers, go to funeral home and/or cemetery with her, take her to lunch, etc.

      2. I’m married to an only child and the logistics after the death of a parent are huge. To the extent that you can devote time to helping her (if she is open to it), it is a huge help to have someone not emotionally invested to do things like:
        – go to the funeral home and help navigate all of the options for burial, a funeral service, etc (did you know you can usually negotiate price at a funeral home, and you can buy a casket or urn online and have it sent to the funeral home?)
        – If anything has to be done with the house, make a list of utility bills or other preventative maintenance
        – Make a list of financial institutions to call and notify of the death
        – Order multiple copies of death certificates
        – Help write an obituary
        – Run interference on relatives or friends who are being inappropriate at the funeral or other events
        – Help organize offers of help from others, like when meals can be dropped off for her family

        Over the longer term, if her mother is no longer living in the house there may be a need to clean out belongings and/or prepare it for sale, and that is just so overwhelming. You are a good friend.

    2. When my parents passed, a couple of friends delivered dinners and I really appreciated it. Also of course send a condolence note or card.

    3. My friend’s dad died two weeks ago. I send her random texts to tell her I am thinking of her and her family. I went to the service, of course. She is outdoorsy, so I suggest runs or rides to get her out of the house (but no pressure)!

  15. If you’ve been to the Hyatt Lost Pines Resort in Texas (near Austin) can you share how it was? Thinking of going there with my fam (4 yo and 7 yo) to try something new but I know nothing about the area.

    1. Nope, but I’d be curious in a review if you do go. I’m always looking for vacation spots with young kids, I haven’t been to Austin and that resort looks nice.

    2. we were supposed to go pre-covid (like had a reservation for May 2020), which we canceled. i’ve heard good things, but i don’t know that i’d fly to go there, but worth it if you live driving distance

    3. I went there in 2019, but I was only there for one night so I don’t have much to share. We took our dogs hiking and lounged about with friends. It was lovely—very serene and relaxing—and I would definitely go again. If you have any specific questions, I’m happy to try to answer them.

  16. One of my best friends died suddenly a few days ago. I’m at a loss as to what to do. They had a big family so it doesn’t seem like anyone needs my help with anything (I’ve offered). I’m just in that phase of disbelief and intense sadness, and I can’t believe I will never get to hang out with my friend again. So many times just in the last couple of days I’ve seen something and thought “I should text Friend” and then I remember I cant. I still have a lunch date on my calendar. Does anyone who has been through this have any advice?

    1. I’m terribly sorry – can you ask to come keep your friend’s family company? Maybe being around people who knew them would ease your loneliness and sadness.

    3. Grieve

      That is it. There is nothing else. I understand the impulse to want to DO something – anything – that might make it “better”, but all that does is put off the feelings and there is no way to avoid them. Prayer helps if you are so inclined (helping people through life’s transitions is one of the things religion does best) but obviously that is not something that works for many people.

    4. I am so sorry for your loss. I lost a dear friend a few years back and I still ache for her. It is like losing a parent or a sibling, but people don’t treat it the same. Give yourself lots of grace and time. One thing I wish I’d done sooner is jot down all the silly memories or fun things we did, just to be sure I would remember them always.

      1. Hugs. I like the idea above of writing down memories. Also, I found when I have that moment of wanting to call my friend, it helps to write a letter to him and say all the things I would have if we were together. Losing a friend is really, really hard.

      2. I’m sorry for your loss. Along the same line, if you have lots of photos of your friend, could you make a photo book and order an extra copy for her family? I find creative projects good to take on when you want to DO something.

    6. Oh I am so sorry. If the two of you were part of a larger group, can you get together with them? Of course there will be services etc, but this would give you a chance to grieve and reminisce without feeling like you’re stepping on her family’s toes.

    7. A few months ago, my friend’s best friend died. Following the circles of grief theory I wanted to offer to be that person in a circle outside of hers that she could dump on, but it felt awkward and intrusive to suggest spending time together when she was very wrapped up dealing with the family and funeral logistics, so I just showed up to all the public events and gave her a hug whenever I saw her. The point of this anecdote is to say that there are probably friends out there who would love to support you but are hanging back out of respect, so if you feel a listening ear or a distraction would help you I bet anyone would be glad to oblige if you suggested going for coffee or lunch or whatever.

    8. I am so very sorry for you. I posted recently that I just unexpectedly lost my sibling-in-law (husband’s sibling). I just want to say, now that we’re just over 2 weeks out, that the expression “grief comes in waves” has absolutely been true for me so far. However, the pain begins to feel more manageable and a “new normal” starts to feel possible. Again, I am so very sorry. Take it easy on yourself and try to eat full meals and get as much sleep as possible.

  17. I wear skirts or dresses 90% of the time, but I’m wondering about pants as in early fall and spring, it’s too warm to wear tights and my legs run cold— thus, most of my pants or jeans prime wearing time is on the horizon in the fall.
    I’ve been struggling how tight or loose to purchase pants/ jeans these days. Due to weight loss and new styles, I can’t figure out how pants should fit. I know the likely answer is for comfort, but after wearing too large loose pants/jeans that read a bit baggy(kept a few nicer that survived a purge after everything else was too big) many things that fit me, feel tight, even though there is objectively lots of stretch and room. Will this just take getting used to? Or do I just keep trying on pants/ jeans in stores until something feels right? Trying on pants in fitting rooms is exhausting and feels like a time suck right now, and shouldn’t be this difficult! My previous pants that fit were mid rise, and the one pair in my current size that I own is a higher rise, which feels all right, but I miss the mid rise, but can’t make it work like I used too. Any suggestions much appreciated!

    1. What rise is most flattering on you? What shape is most flattering on your new shape? Maybe if you like softer feeling pants, you should not wear jeans, but instead should wear ponte, joggers (if not for work) or flowy pants? Keep trying stuff on, look in the mirror and ask “does this look good on me?” “does this feel good?” “do these pants work with the shoes I have?” and go from there!

      1. Thank you! I appreciate the encouragement to take my time to figure out if something looks good…though I suspect this means more time in fitting rooms:) …with a satisfying result I hope! I think I may have to take more chances too, and add more pairs, wear them, and see what ends up being comfortable and flattering longer term. I’m trying to find a ‘perfect’ one or two pairs, where I may have to buy more and start wearing it to determine if it works.

  18. Is there such a thing as career focused therapy? I left big law and now need some help unprogramming myself from that abuse. I’m also unfamiliar with the norms and expectations outside of those work environments. I work in an isolated in house legal department now, so I don’t think I’m going to learn those things or deprogram myself organically. I’m thinking of reading some books regarding management or careers to get more exposure to normal dynamics in the work place so I can emulate normal things and not act like a low self confidence abuse victim (sorry for the triggering language, but this is actually how I feel). I’m also a person of color in a male dominated niche legal practice. Any ideas for how I can regain a normal relationship with work and others? Sorry for such a big and broad ask.

    1. Hi there, also in-house counsel here. While not a therapist, I dealt with similar feelings after leaving my previous role and would be happy to connect on what has worked for me. Any chance you have a burner email you can share?

      1. Thank you! I’ll post a burner email shortly. I really appreciate you sharing your perspective.

    2. I am also in-house counsel and have worked in toxic environments previously. Happy to chat with you off of this site Lizzy dot hicken dot 01 at gmail.

    4. I think this is an area where a trained coach would be helpful. I’ve done some training with B. Foster Blair JD, who is a certified coach and does a lot of DEI type work. I’m unsure whether or not he takes private clients these days but if not, he may be able to refer you to someone better suited to help. You can reach him through LinkedIn but his direct email is foster at fosterblair dot com if you’d rather do it directly.

  19. Help me use my words.

    When I moved to City, I went to the nearest church of my denomination to where I lived. It is hugely well-endowed, the sort of place where there is a service to bless the backpacks of kids heading off to boarding school. They welcomed my stewardship and my volunteering, but I felt that my actual presence was sort of tolerated at best and my kids (eek — of a working mom) were an afterthought, especially one child who is on the ASD spectrum (to be clear: kid is not disruptive, just not camera-ready and smocked-dress charming but more quirky and stimming quietly in the corner). Everyone seems to send kids to private schools but they host forums about how racist white/asian parents are every time the school board resdistricts local schools (but the district itself is mostly black but will soon be largely hispanic, so there’s not even that many other people to spread around anymore). I get social justice and yet I feel like just asking for a seat at my own table is too bit an ask. It’s time for yet another capital campaign. I’ve thrown it in the trash. Do I even bother to discuss this with anyone there (it’s very loud and woke on many things, but a frosty place for a working mom with kids (like their preschool is heavily funded by is something like 10-1 during the school year and 10-3 for pre-K); kid choir practice even for school-aged kids is at 4, which is before some schools even let out)? Find some other church to switch our membership to (but if it is further way, would we even go? we’re not limited to parish boundaries for which church you can be a member of)? Quit quietly? Quit noisily? Just fade away? They notice when the checks don’t come but not otherwise.

    1. Find another church, quit quietly, if they directly ask why you’re not donating say you don’t feel like your values align and leave it at that.

    2. Quit quietly and find a more welcoming congregation. I’m sorry, this stuff is really hard.

    3. Find another church.

      My faith is very important to me. I don’t want to raise my son in a world in which he thinks God commanded modern women to stay at home. We are in an area with that attitude, and I made sure to find a parish that supports working moms. The parish mom’s group meets once a month during the day, and once a month at night for working moms who can’t make the day event. We have an option for full-day preschool and there are after-school options for kids in the parish elementary school. This is in a city wherein people told me to quit my job when I got pregnant.

      I worry that my son will adopt those backwards attitudes unless we explicitly show him how it’s some people’s preference, not something ordained by God. I don’t want him trying to date in the 2030s, running around believing that he’s got to find himself a little wifey to stay at home. I dated men like that in the late ’90s and aughts, and I was like… you’re a dinosaur and we’re breaking up. (They are all, in fact, unmarried as of now.)

      Just find a different church. Don’t raise kids with that nonsense.

      1. I live in a neighborhood with a LOT of stay at home moms. It is not because they think God commanded it. It is because their husbands have high powered careers where they make a enough money that they do not need two working parents and those careers are much easier to maintain when they have a dedicated person taking care of the house and children.

        I went to law school with a substantial group of women who have not worked since kid #2. The expense and career compromises got to the point where continuing to work was just not worth it. It is demographic, not religious.

      2. I remember sitting at law school circa 2000 listening to all of the guys in the law school’s snack bar talk about how they wanted to date/marry kindergarten teachers because early elem. majors were young, pretty, and good with kids. I was dating a woman at the time, so I guess they didn’t think I’d find it offensive? I’m sure some of them achieved their goal, but some of them are definitely unhappy singles who don’t understand why the women they date never call back.

        Related: I’m not terribly sad that the woman who gave me the *most* grief for working while my kids were little suddenly had to reenter the workforce in her late 50s because her (male) spouse came out, started dating a much younger man, and decided the marriage was over.

    4. If they notice when the checks don’t come then at least they care more than our church does. I would find a church that aligns with your family’s values and welcomes you, then just leave quietly. When I had some concerns about our church I did a lot of web searches about whether it’s worth speaking up and the only articles I could find were by/for the clergy complaining about those presumptuous parishioners who had the audacity to speak their mind, often encouraging clergy to push those parishioners out for the sake of unity. Absolutely zero humility or introspection.

      It’s just like leaving a job. Don’t tell them the real reasons why, just go with as little commentary as possible.

    5. As a working mom, I got a surprising amount of guff from my super tolerant, very liberal, hippie Episcopal church, especially when I did things like point out that the ushers needed to calm the f— down about the kids being quiet when they came into the sanctuary for Communion or that perhaps we could get some of the fathers to teach Sunday School. That said, I stayed at our church because they actually took my concerns seriously and to their credit, have tried to assuage some of these issues. Plus the Sunday School director left and she was 100% my biggest problem and source of conflict.

      If I was in your shoes, I’d check out other churches in your area to see if they have better children/youth programming. I *adore* my denomination, but I’d probably try and check out the Non-Missouri-Synod Lutherans, any Congregational churches, and possibly Presbyterians. If I found anything better, I’d switch and tell them why I’m switching.

      Another option is to talk to a clergy member who seems sympathetic and/or you know fairly well. While I’m usually a “go up the chain”-type person, this is a situation where I would not necessarily start with the Sunday school director or the youth minister(s). Some clergy (especially women clergy who are not in children’s ministry) tend to take a very hands-off approach to this stuff because they don’t want to be pigeonholed, etc. They may genuinely have no idea that there are women in their congregation with school-age kids who would appreciate change – and some of the change is darn easy (why can’t the children’s choir practice right before the service?).

      1. One more thing – I don’t think it’s wrong or bad to tell them why the church isn’t working for you. I wouldn’t nail 95 theses to the church’s door (bad Protestant joke), but I would call or email the pastor to let them know you are leaving. Anyone else (by which I mean the church gossip mill) gets a, “we found a church home that works better for our family.”

      2. Also Episcopalian and I’d suggest starting by checking out other churches within your denomination. Churches with women ministers as the lead minister tend to be a little more working mom friendly but things can vary between churches a fair bit.

      3. ELCA Lutheran churches is what you’ll usually find the non-Missouri ones under.

    6. Do you actually like going there/feel like your spiritual needs are met? That’s the first question for me. I went to a similar church and felt so alienated (in my case bc I was a late 30s divorced woman and all activities for adult women were focused on motherhood) that I couldn’t connect with God and Jesus in that space. I moved to another large church but one that had room for a larger range of life experiences.

      If you do feel spiritually connected there but are otherwise unhappy, do you have a relationship to a priest or minister you could speak with? Someone’s at really large churches there are communities that aren’t so visible but that exist, and there might be one for you.

    7. I would say something. I would say “I do not feel welcome here as my whole self” – how is it ever going to change if no one speaks up?

      Sorry you’re in this position.

    8. As one of the few working mothers in my neighborhood, I feel your pain! Most camps/sports/ scouting/school events are set up for the majority of families and the majority of families have SAH moms. I agitated to change and got nowhere (mostly because 90% of the families preferred the 4:00 practice because it got them home in time for dinner and they were not inclined to change it for me). My only suggestion if the good of this specific church does not outweigh the bad is that you look for something in a different neighborhood with different demographics.

      I would suggest telling them why you are leaving. It might not change anything, particularly if the vast majority of their families have a stay at home spouse, but they should understand that they are not working mother friendly and that can be a problem if they are trying to broaden their appeal.

    9. I would call the minister that you are closest to, and ask for a conversation. Explain what you love about the church and what you’re struggling with. Ask for their input on how to think this decision through. That response will tell you everything you need to know about whether to stay or go. Source: I am the daughter of a PC(USA) minister.

  20. I just moved into my forever house and am so excited that the dining room has a massive built in china cabinet and there’s a bar room with lots of mirrored shelving. I keep hearing that nobody wants grandmas china/crystal… any idea where I can find some at a reasonable price? I’d love to find some fun things to really make these spaces feel decorated and done

    3. Maybe an online auction site, like Everything But The House? But! China cabinets are not just for china. I would treat it like a museum case for all the fun things I’ve collected over the years.

    4. I follow several local estate sale companies on FB. There’s always china and crystal. (Actual silver is more rare.) I keep an eye out and flip through the preview photos they post, and only go to the estate sale when there’s something I may want.

    5. Run of the mill antique stores. Not the fancy antique stores (unless you are up for $$$$) and not the junky ones, just the ordinary ones. And if you are perchance up for $$$$, and can make a trip to New Orleans, shops on Royal Street, including and especially Kiel’s, where it is hard not to actively drool over all the lovely things.

      1. also, check out auctionninja – super location specific so they may not be in your area but I love it for estate auctions!

    8. If you’re not in a hurry, get the word out among your friends and coworkers that you’re on the lookout for china and glassware. In my small office, I can think of 3 people in the last year lamenting having to deal with finding a home for/donating sets of china.

    10. I am into this and I keep an eye out on craigslist and facebook marketplace. That’s where you’re more likely to find an individual selling mom’s/grandma’s set, and not a dealer who has done a significant markup. I’ve seen some gorgeous sets here recently in the Bay Area.

Comments are closed.