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Frugal Friday’s Workwear Report: Cropped Lantern-Sleeved Blouse

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Our daily workwear reports suggest one piece of work-appropriate attire in a range of prices.

I love everything about this lantern-sleeved blouse from Banana Republic Factory. The color, the shape, the fabric — all perfect!

I would wear the “scorched orange” color layered under a camel or plaid blazer for a particularly autumnal vibe, or tucked into a black midi skirt if you want to go for a straight-up Halloween look.

The top is $39 at Banana Republic Factory and comes in sizes XXS–XXL. It also comes in “preppy navy.”

For a blouse available in plus sizes, try this top from Torrid — it's on sale for $36.33.

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222 Comments

  1. Update about the guy who texted me asking if I wanted to “come over to his place and watch a movie”.

    I replied that I wasn’t comfortable doing anything physical before we knew each other better – he said that he was enjoying getting to know me and wanted to keep doing that. We met for ice cream, which I suggested because it seemed like he wanted a low key date. He was a perfect gentleman and asked me out next week again, so great outcome!

    I guess I’m not sure if he meant it in a Netflix-and-chill way but I’m kinda glad I said that anyways, get it out in the open. I think guys need to understand the implication of inviting a woman to their house even if they don’t mean it that way (like the other commenters boardgame playing husband). It made me a little wary – will a guy who wanted to “watch a movie or something” – I can’t get over how much of a come on that souns like – really be okay with . . . not doing that for a little while. To be honest I think I’m demi or something, but figure what I said is clear enough without using the words.

    1. It’s always a good idea to be upfront about boundaries from the beginning. Any decent guy who genuinely likes you will respect them.
      So happy it worked out!

    2. whether or not he was actually hoping for a more physical evening secretly, sounds like you both handled it well – yay for a good update!

    3. Good for you for being clear about your boundaries and I’m glad he respected them. But something to think about is if you want to be physical with this guy at all? If you keep dating, he’s going to naturally assume that will happen. And it’s ok if you don’t want to, but make sure he knows that.

      1. She has gone out with him a total of three times! She doesn’t owe him an immediate roll in the hay. The entire purpose of dating is to evaluate potential mates for compatibility. That takes time. I must be from a different planet, because I can’t imagine that anyone would trust a person they’d just met enough to sleep with them so soon.

      2. The fact that she doesn’t want to get physical with a dude she barely knows does not mean that she never wants to.

      3. It’s a little chicken and egg. I think that if we/I/he don’t rush it I will feel comfortable and want to be physical, but if we rush it then I’ll just have a bad association with it and that’s the end of that. Or at least that’s what happened in the past.

        1. In this case, I think you and he would benefit from your finding an opportunity to say just this. I think most people by your age have had a similar experience, and since it is true, it is a nice way of keeping him interested but explaining where you’re at and thus setting the right expectations. You might find out it takes some pressure off him and makes the gettig to know you part more fun.

      4. Geez, it doesn’t mean she never wants to sleep with him, but it is not unreasonable to need some time to get to know someone before taking that step.

      5. Madding to the chorus of not being a fan of this attitude. A lot of relationships and even marriages are harmed when one person hears “not tonight” and decides it means that the other person isn’t attracted to them.

    4. I mean it’s not the office, it’s pretty normal to “come onto” someone in a dating context. Maybe that’s not for you, but it is for most people.

      1. Yes – I was just thinking about the “he could have really just been asking you to come over and watch a movie” part of it. Doesn’t seem likely.

        1. Yes, my experience has been that a guy will be thrilled if you agree to go to his apartement to watch a movie, b/c in his mind, it really means “a movie + whatever more you’re willing to do. ” Without boundaries, men’s natural inclinations are that you will at least kiss and he’ll start down the physical path with his hands to see how much youre willing to do. With positive feedback, those hands will go to places that usually are reserved for more established relationships, and if he can get there early, so much the better for him. All that’s fine if all you are looking for is quick s-x, but that is NOT for me, or her either. I think that she was very smart to avoid any chance of physicality and all of its problems at such an early stage. There will be plenty of time to hump if they do turn out to be compatible, but that in my book requires at least 2 months of regular dating to see how he is around other people and even his family. She should not have to wait until she’s been with him and done everything with him before figuring out what his family is like. I certainly would have had reservations about my ex if I had been able to see his disfunctional family first, but I didn’t and I wound up in a pickle having to defend them against my own family’s questioning of them. But anyway, best of luck to the OP and I hope she and him are compatible, and she should figure this out in the living room, not just in the bedroom.

      2. I honestly think people would complain less about dating if dating conventions really worked well for most people.

    5. I think coming back to someone’s house always implies sex is a strong possibility. I was surprised by that Aziz Ansari controversy a while ago where the woman went back to his place after their first date and seemed surprised that he wanted sex.

      1. Agree, and this has been the case since at least the 1990s, when I started dating. One of the first things my aunts (who were only about 10 years older than me, so more in-touch with things than my mom) told me when I started going out with boys was – don’t go back to his house or go parking in a car somewhere alone with him if you don’t want to get physical. Please note, this was not about my aunts creating excuses for sexual assault. They just had had their own experiences and recognized that guys were reading the “sure, I’ll come back to your place with you” as a signal for “let’s get busy” even when that was not the intention.

        I haven’t dated in a loooong time but I am online enough to realize that “Netflix and chill/come over and watch a movie ‘or something'” is a signal. And I think OP handled it well and her date also handled himself well. I also think that OP does realize – sooner than later, there’s probably going to be an expectation around getting physical, and OP needs to have a plan for that. I am also demi (although that wasn’t really a term when I was dating) and I got good at just saying to guys – I am someone who needs to take things slow, so if that’s not going to work for you, I understand. And I did have some guys who never called again after that. But my husband didn’t care – he’s probably demi himself – and it’s worked out just fine for us over the years. It took us awhile to get physical, but once we did, it was great and has been great for many years now. Even though we’re old now, lol.

        1. I did say that to him, including “if thats a dealbreaker for you I understand”. I’m pretty proud of myself for that tbh because I think thats the first time I’ve said that to a guy. In the past I would just string it along by just not going to their place or telling them closer to in-the-moment but this is the first time I’ve said it this clearly ahead of time.

          1. I am not demi and have had a very wide variety of experiences, ranging from one-night stands and sex-only situationships to long relationships with no physicality. My best relationships have been ones where sex came a bit later. Most recently, I had a mostly text and phone call relationship for 8 months (odd circumstances) and then we didn’t get physical until about 8 weeks into regular in-person dating. It’s been about a year now. Younger, a relationship that almost led to marriage was somewhat physical but no sex until about 9 mos in. And you know, those guys were great about it. It sounds like your guy is being great, too. Men willing to wait aren’t the unicorns they are made out to be.

        2. +1 million. The word demi wasn’t around when I was dating, but now that I know what it is? Yes, that’s probably what I am. DH and I still have a great physical connection, 20 years into marriage, but we took that part of our relationship slowly until we were both ready (but especially me). I don’t know when that became a problem, but it probably has something to do with how rampant hookup culture is now. Take your time! It’s fine! If he wants to be with you, he’ll be willing to wait until you’re ready. And now I sound like an after-school special.

      2. I don’t think sex should ever just be assumed, but I also don’t know why it’s hard to be direct about what you don’t want. When I was dating, I would literally say, “okay but just so we are on the same page, I am absolutely not sleeping with you tonight.” And I had no problem repeating that I meant that. To be clear, I would still want to be comfortable enough with a person where I would be sure that they would respect that decision but that’s a different analysis (i.e., I would not get in a car with someone I didn’t trust either).

        OP, good for you for saying what you want & don’t.

        1. I had conversations like the OP did multiple times while dating and if it didn’t go well, I knew immediately dude wasn’t serious about me. 9 times out of 10 it went perfectly well and I think the guys actually appreciated clarity from me. I dated my now-husband for many months before we had s*x, and by the time we did I was super ready to and really comfortable with him.

          1. Good to hear! This is what I’ve had to internalize – yes theres a chance it won’t go well, but if it doesn’t go well thats good information to have.

        2. When I was dating (15+ years ago) it felt anti-feminist in some way to guard against physical intimacy, and worried I’d end up with an overly traditional guy who prized virginity/purity and judged women for being sluts. I wonder if all the discussion about aro/ace spectrum has changed that.

          1. This is just so sad. Feminism is about autonomy and full personhood. An expectation that women will put out early in a relationship is the opposite of feminism.

      3. And look how that turned out! Clear communication upfront would have worked better for everyone. OP, good for you leading the charge.

      4. Yeah, I thought that whole thing was so weird. I appreciate that Aziz took responsibility for it and expressed remorse, but I really felt like the woman in that case was kind of nuts.

    6. But there’s nothing wrong with an invite that implies there might be intimacy? And he was respectful when you said no. What is the issue?

      1. I got the impression she was just reporting back, not that she was complaining about anything.

    7. Good job on vocalizing yourself and being upfront. I don’t think we should ever expect anyone to read our minds, ever.

    8. It is perfectly normal not to want to sleep with someone on the first date. You don’t have to label yourself as anything.

      1. This! I was trying to figure out why healthy sexual behavior needs a label now. (Jumping in the sack early on is also healthy).

    9. You need to stop judging this guy for asking it in the first place! His response has been fantastic. If you can’t get past that he asked at all, he deserves to be let go to find somebody else.

      1. And to be clear, before you say you’re not, your tone in this post and comments and the initial post and comments definitely is judgey.

        1. I mean, a guy who wants to sleep with her on the third date is a certain kind of guy, and OP is reasonable not to want to date that kind of guy.

  2. Do you think those Tory Burch shoes with the logo (as posted here yesterday) are tacky?

    1. I wouldn’t call them tacky but the TB logo specifically is kind of dated IMHO. It was so ubiquitous with those ballet flats a decade ago that it needs to go rest for awhile before returning.

    2. Yes, I thought they were. But then, I think most clothing with logos is tacky.
      I’m not paying money to be a walking billboard for any company, especially at that price point.

    4. I didn’t love them due to the logo but had ordered them a few weeks ago anyway because they were otherwise a heel height I’ve been looking for. They fit really strangely so they went back. Like a full size too big.

      2. I had all these thoughts and also have been looking for that height. I saw similar reviews on sizing, were they a full size too big? How did the comfort out of the box seem otherwise? Worth a try sizing down?

        1. Yes, I’m on the cusp on 6.5 and 7 and ordered the 6.5 and they basically flew off my feet when I tried to walk. They seemed well made just very big.

    5. Very outdated (the TB medallion flats were so big 10-15 years ago), but in general I don’t like wearing obvious logos (unless it’s my NFL team, lol)

      1. Sports teams and patriotic stuff are the only exceptions I make to obvious logos, lol.
        All other logos have to be similar to the tiny polo pony on my favorite sweater…

    6. I will say yes but I make an exception for TB. I had a pair that were often daily drivers on work trips and worn often with dresses and pants throughout the week and on Sundays to church and they were by far my best $ per wear work shoe ever. That was pre-COVID and I’m in a hot mess of casual shoes now heading into fall (boot season). But I would rebuy when I need a next pair of grown-up work shoes. I had the low block heel, which they have on offer regularly. Leather was soft, never rubbed, and required no break-in. Mine had rubber soles. I wore them to the point of taking to the cobbler several times to keep in pristine condition despite years of regular wear.

      Otherwise, no.

      1. +1. I don’t do other branded stuff but the TB shoes are really well made and comfortable. And the new logos are less conspicuous than the big gold ones.

      2. That’s so funny because although I have seen quite a few TB pieces that I kind of like, for some reason I have a huge mental block about the logo and I cannot bring myself to actually purchase or wear any of it.

        1. I do too. I think it’s because it seems very mid-market. If I’m going to be obvious about a logo, I don’t want one that screams I bought it at the mall on clearance.

    7. I actually don’t think they’re tacky, and I say that as someone who isn’t much of a logo person. It’s a classy shoe!

    8. They look outdated to me. I wasn’t a fan of their big ornate logo even when they were hot circa 2014. That hunk of metal ruins an otherwise nice shoe.

    9. I don’t find them tacky, but I live in Los Angeles so my bar for what I consider tacky is super high. But I think it’s something about the logo being almost horizontal rather than vertical, and my bar is higher for shoes than say, purses.

      Also, TB is surprisingly high quality. I have a single pair of TB (non-medallion) ballet flats that I bought at the tail end of the trend and they are the best ballet flats I’ve ever had, way better than the just-as-expensive Coach ones I bought around the same time. I probably wear them every 10 days and barely take care of them (apart from keeping them in a shoe bag).

  3. I was catching up late on yesterday’s discussion of parenting and wanted to confirm that the poster who wrote about screen time for children in Silicon Valley aligns with my experience of living here. In my circles, parents who can manage it limit screen time for their children to well below AAP guidance for limits. It’s also incredibly rare to see a child with a screen in any kind of public setting where I live.

    1. Where do you live? I feel like I see elementary school kids with screens to the point where it’s remarkable when I don’t. Middle schoolers are all on insta. My kids are practically Amish and even they are on it to d*mn much. It’s not nefarious, but it’s how they manage boredom that has merged with how they do schoolwork, keep up with activities (does everything have a Slack, Remind, etc. channel to manage and websignups sent out by text?), and keep up with friends? It seems like they are always touching a device but often had a reason to (and then spent 15 minutes on YouTube or whatever after).

      1. this is a good point – every school my kids have ever been in have used chromebooks and programs like iready, moby max, prodigy, epic, aleks, khan academy, and more as part of the curriculum. during 5th and 6th grades their “recess” was in the gym playing on chromebooks.

        2. I would be livid if my kids were allowed to use electronics during recess. Even on the rare indoor recess day, there should not be electronics!

          2. Our school shows movies on indoor recess days, and I remember that from my own childhood too. I don’t love it, but I think it’s pretty common.

          3. To me, there’s a difference in everyone watching a movie together versus kids each zoning out on their individual devices.

      2. Palo Alto. There is more screen time at school than I would like, but for instructional purposes only. The teachers held it at bay for awhile, but it seems like the district is now forcing teachers to require that students use certain (not great) software for a prescribed amount of time each week.

    2. Where are you in Silicon Valley? I’m out in Pleasant Hill and I’m the one who sees very young kids on phones in strollers pretty frequently (including when I’m on the Peninsula visiting friends, for that matter…).

        1. I lived in Palo Alto until recently and still have a lot of friends in PA/MV/LA/Cupertino. Their kids have screens just as much as the kids I know in other regions of the country. I don’t really think this is a Silicon Valley thing. You can find parents anywhere who are very anti-screen and parents who are very liberal about screentime (I think I and most of my friends fall somewhere in the middle, fwiw).

    3. I rarely see kids in public on screens (LA area) but more often in restaurants or wait-around settings like the post office. Places like restaurants (especially if they are quiet and/or nice) can be such a lose-lose for parents with young kids -some people seem to expect perfect behavior and no noise but also “remember” that when they were kids, they sat through a 10-course meal silently without moving a muscle uphill in the snow both ways.

      We don’t really limit screen time for our kids, but there are no phones at meals or screens in the car (unless it’s a long trip). What I find interesting about my own kids is that while both of them text and Facetime friends, neither has pestered me for a social media account like Insta or Snapchat.

  4. I am the (grateful) previous poster with new medical problems that leave me cold, sore and dry all the time. Thanks for all of your great recs for things to help me feel more comfortable. I ordered so many warm and cozy things to look forward to.

    Now I need to fly (5hrs…) to a family funeral. I really shouldn’t travel now, but I really want to go. The last time I flew I was so uncomfortable…. So this time I got a seat in the exit row for some extra space, but I will need to get up a lot to walk/stretch, because I can’t sit very long without pain. I also can’t ask for wheelchair assistance in the airport, or else they wont let me sit in the exit row, so I need to try to keep what I carry as light as possible. I can’t afford 1st class ($2.5k), but I thought about it. And I have to wear N95 mask at all times (immunocompromised) and can’t eat/drink at my seat in the plane…. but maybe I will go to bathroom to drink/use drops etc..?

    Any recs to help keep me from being so sore, cold and dry on the airplane?

    And can anyone recommend a good, compact….

    Neck pillow
    Lower back pillow

    I’ll bring a cashmere big scarf for warmth, and wear layers and fingerless gloves.

    Also, can I put all of my various sprays/drops etc… that I may need on the plane in a small zipper bag in my carry on, since they are “medical”, without worrying about the liquid limits? They aren’t prescriptions though… just over the counter eye drops, nose drops, throat sprays etc…

    Thanks for your help.

    1. If a bulkhead seat is available (first row of economy) you’ll get almost as much legroom and can use the wheelchair.

    2. Also, extended legroom/comfort seating is very comfortable, and doesn’t involve the exit row duties.

      1. I’m not sure this is exactly true, because I know there’s an exemption for contact solution and saline, but it usually involves enough extra inspection that I’m not sure it’s worth it. If you can fit it all in one bag, I’d try to make it work. I travel with multiple bottles of eye drops, nasal spray, contact solution and all of my shampoo, conditioner, and face stuff and lotions and it all fits in one ziploc, so I know it’s possible if you use small bottles and put small amounts of lotions in contact cases.

          1. My tip is to spread your liquids across your allowed two bags and have nothing bigger than 3 oz / 100 ml in either of them. They probably won’t track what is in which bag. But use two bags, even if you’re eventually going to put the smaller bag into the bigger bag.

          2. I once traveled internationally for three months with only a carry on doing this. It was back when you had to take your liquids out of your luggage for screening. I did one ziplock in the first bin with my phone, one after my carryon suitcase, and another after my backpack with my shoes. (I often did this method with just two ziplocks also.). IME, TSA was checking that no one ziplock was over the limit and that no one items was over the limit. But they were not matching bags to people, so no one checked if a person had more than one ziplock.

      2. My strategy is two bags, I put one bag of liquids in a suitcase I’m carrying on, the other in my tote. TSA isn’t really tracking who has what bag and it’s always worked.

    4. I certainly wouldn’t go into the bathroom to drink or use drops. Just do it quickly at your seat. The bulkhead seats are bad because there’s nowhere to keep all your stuff, so the exit row or economy plus is better.

      1. Agree with the recommendation to avoid unmasking in the bathroom. No ventilation. Also, from an airborne disease perspective, the window seat (no one on one side) is safer than the aisle (lots of people walking past you).

    5. i thought you couldn’t bring more than 3.4 oz of liquid through TSA… can you order travel sizes of anything? maybe ask your doctor if she or he has sample sizes for you, or look at minimus.biz? https://www.minimus.biz/personalcaremain.aspx

      if you’re taking OTC eye drops you may want to look into the preservative-free options in single vials – great for travel as well as stashing a million places.

      1. I’ve never seen eye drops in a bigger than 4oz size myself, they’re usually way smaller than that.

          1. I meant to add that they’re small enough that the TSA never seems to care that I have a bottle stashed in my carry on, not in the separate liquid bag.

    6. I’m not sure the air in the bathroom will be better than at your seat for unmasking.

      My best recommendation for being comfortable on the flight is to spend as much of it asleep or nearly asleep as possible. My blood pressure tanks on planes so I usually enter some kind of presyncope twilight anyway. Xanax can work too. It’s a miserable place to be conscious.

      You absolutely do need to worry about the liquid limits for non-prescription medical needs; TSA won’t care that they’re medical.

    7. My tips:
      – comfortable clothes, even PJs on the plane, you can change on arrival
      – cashmere wrap for warmth
      – I just buy a pillow in the airport and toss, they’re $20 and it’s not worth the hassle of dragging it around and they get gross anyway
      – check on your seat upgrade options closer to departure, often they sell first seats at a discount at check-in, just check in at the minute you can
      – liquids in two bags as noted above, just watch the size to keep them under 3 ounces
      – take your time, get there early, whether you wheelchair or not, you won’t be stressed if you have a lot of time to get where you need to go. Airport maps are all online and you can chart your course ahead of time.
      – I wouldn’t worry about airplane air, that’s all very filtered after take off. You’d probably be most comfortable getting something lovely and warm to sip on in the airport and getting up a few times to use the bathroom.

    9. just on the point about airline air – the air filters kick in once you’re in the air, but not before. the most dangerous times are during takeoff and while sitting at the gate from a breathing/mask perspective. most airports i’ve been in also have nice high ceilings and you can usually find a quiet spot away from people to eat or drink; if you can’t the next best time to take off your mask is when you’ve been in the air for a while.

      1. True, and keep in mind that any air that gets from another person’s exhale to your inhale before being sucked into the system, run through the HEPA filters and pushed back out again (i.e., air from the people closest to you) has not been filtered at all.

    10. I’m immunocompromised and have read a lot about traveling safely, and knock wood have not caught COVID from travel, which I do several times per year for my job.

      Obviously, mask everywhere with a high quality mask.

      You can board early and should, during preboarding. I usually give the gate agent a heads up that I’m immunocompromised and get on early. The worst air quality is on the crowded, unventilated jet bridge, so you want to cross that before it gets backed up.

      Once on the plane, the ventilation is not going while the plane is on the ground. Turn on your overhead vent and keep your mask on. Window seating was a good idea – lean into that.

      Once airborne, the ventilation is pretty good. I will take my mask off to eat and drink only after the airplane has reached cruising altitude and the seatbelt sign is off. But wear it as much as you can.

      Good luck!

      2. This is what we do, too, masking and avoiding shared air. We travel twice a year internationally (16+ hours one-way), and have not had Covid yet.

        We eat something in a quiet corner of the airport before boarding, and do the same on layovers. Then only taking small sips after lowering the mask quickly, once the plane is at cruising altitude. I recommend the 3M auras or VFlex for travel. There is also a straw valve available as a DIY (Sip Mask), but we haven’t tried it.

        It sounds drastic to most people, but as a virologist I am determined to stay in the control group, and even my 7 yr old kid knows what to do and has no problem following our precautions. Is it the most comfortable trip? No, but traveling never is, really.

        2. I traveled internationally twice without taking any of these precautions and didn’t get Covid.

    11. I always take a lot of down with me on planes–a packable down jacket for my top, and a down vest to put over my lap like a blanket. Works like a charm (and blocks the “windy” vents much better too).

      For travel pillows, I like inflatable ones, because you can adjust them to what you need (more or less support). Many airlines now have the built in side-head rests that you just adjust and no pillow is necessary.

      Fly safe!

    12. thank you all for the great advice.

      unfortunately I am in a middle seat. but I’ll have to get up a lot so….maybe less annoying than being in the window. i had no choice if I wanted exit row.

      I will arrive early, tell them I’m immunocomp.. see if there is a last minute better seat availability. thanks foe advice not to drink in bathroom. I may try to sip while standing / stretching in a corner somewhere….

      i will do the 2 bags of liquids
      big stuff in checked bag and med stuff in carry bag

      1. The air in an airplane is constantly recycling so I wouldn’t be too worried about taking off your mask to drink.

        1. My husband got Covid on an airplane and he only took his mask off briefly to eat and drink at cruising altitude (never at takeoff/landing or in the airport). A lot of the studies about airline air being great were funded by the airline industry, so I think you kind of have to take them with a grain of salt. Odds are you won’t get Covid, but it’s a possibility.

          1. Your husband can’t possibly know exactly where he got Covid. It doesn’t work like that.

          2. Not with 100% certainty, but we had only been in very safe situations (outdoors, distanced from others) for many days before and after and the average incubation period of Omicron (this was in 2022) tracked perfectly with the plane travel day. Also someone near us was visibly sick and talking about being glad they didn’t need a Covid test to fly. So I don’t think it’s a huuuuuge leap.

    13. I don’t mean this to sound harsh, but as I passed 55 I stopped getting an exit row. You should not be in an exit row. According to the FAA, people in exit rows should be hale and hearty and, sadly, you don’t seem like that. I still lift weights and run but I want someone in the exit row that can meet all the implicit and implied tasks, such as opening a heavy door and assisting other passengers.

      This is what southwest airlines has listed for exit row duties, based on FAA regs: In addition, to comply with federal regulations a passenger seated in an exit seat must have sufficient mobility, strength, or flexibility in both arms, hands, and both legs to:

      Reach upward, sideways, and downward to the location of the emergency exit
      Grasp and push, pull, turn, or otherwise manipulate mechanisms
      Push, shove, pull, or otherwise open the emergency exit
      Lift out, hold, move on to nearby seats, or maneuver the size and weight of over-wing window doors over seats to the next row
      Remove obstructions similar in size and weight to over-wing exit windows
      Reach the emergency exit quickly
      Maintain balance while removing obstructions
      Exit quickly

      Please pay more for premium or business class or first class. I fly every two weeks and fervently hope people on my flights in the exit row are strong and tough.

      2. Thank you for saying this. I completely agree. I travel often for work and it is jarring to see retired overweight grandparent types in the exit row seats.

        When I am sick or injured I do not select exit row seats. Thankfully I am athletic and strong so most of the time I do not hesitate for an exit row seat.

      4. Yes, I hear you and I thought carefully about this. This is exactly the point you should be making.

        My main problem is pain/inflammation/cold/dry/discomfort…. not weakness etc… So my endurance is poor if I would run a few miles now, as pain increases with more time that I am too active or too immobile/in a bad seated position too long. But amazingly, I am actually extremely healthy appearing and in many ways in the best shape of my life, and I have living/pushing through pain for a long time. I do yoga, have a perfect diet/lifestyle/behaviors etc… (I was taking care of myself when I knew something was wrong) and I am doing physical therapy (primarily for pain/inflammation control) and am better than my PTs for most things. I am sure I can do the Exit row better than most people I see sitting there, if they need me.

        This is part of my problem and why I was late in getting believed, diagnosed and treated by doctors. I looked too healthy. I looked too well. “You are normal!!!” they all told me. No…. I am not normal…. for me.

        They only believed me when I lost 15lbs in 4 months, and had these crazy things appear on my body …. my ears turned crazy hot red burning felt like they were on fire. My sternum started burning through my chest with inflammation and you could see the outlines of my ribs/sternum like I was wearing so crazy holloween costume and my bones were red. I took photos. Thank goodness I took photos or they still wouldn’t have believed me.

        It will take time to get medications right and pain under control… but I hope that will happen some day.

        And this is why I ask you guys for help and advice. The airline definitely wont believe I am having trouble. I look too good. And people don’t believe women. Especially women traveling alone.

        1. This whole reply is just about what you look like you can do. It doesn’t matter what you can get away with. You shouldn’t do it.

        2. Doctors they tell everybody they’re fine if they possibly can because it’s less work for them. It’s not a you thing. The airline would believe you about the exit row if you weren’t up to it; they’ve always believed me. It’s not the kind of thing they want to get wrong!

          But if you’re up to it because you are fit and active, that’s fine too.

          1. Though I honestly understand how you are “better than PTs at most things” but also were considering a wheelchair and can’t carry much luggage. Most PTs can walk around in an airport carrying heavy luggage for quite a while!

        3. Eh, I actually understand this. I also have a chronic pain condition and hate travel because I have trouble sitting in awkward positions, carrying bags on my shoulders is a big neck pain trigger, the pressure changes cause ear pain and are a headache trigger, and I get motion sick. And like OP, I have issues with being cold, dry eyes, and allergies. But I also work out regularly, am in good shape, and would have absolutely no issues with opening the exit door and assisting people in an emergency. I’m used to functioning when feeling crappy because I do it all day every day. It’s definitely possible to be very sick and be very fit at the same time.

          1. Yes.

            I have lived with pain and discomfort for many years. People don’t understand it, if they haven’t experienced it.

            You learn to live and function with it. What other choice is there?

            But if you can avoid it, or minimize it…. you try.

            It doesn’t mean you cannot do things.
            At least for me.
            It just means I suffer for it.

    14. If you’re that immobile that you’d like a wheelchair then you shouldn’t be sitting in the exit row anyway. Yes it is unlikely to happen, but you *do* have obligations sitting in that seat if an emergency occurs.

      1. cold, sore and dry on airplane – you are just in denial. And you – close to or needing a wheelchair – are putting your needs ahead of your fellow passengers.

        Can you really lift a door over airplane seats and push, pull or shove obstructions? What if the emergency occurs after you are waiting on the tarmac for two hours where you can’t get up and stretch? The fact that your doctors didn’t listen to you or misdiagnosed you is not relevant to this question.

        Pay for 1st class or don’t go. Please.

        1. Yes, I can do all that. I am very strong.
          No I am not immobile. I didn’t say that.
          It just hurts. And I’m dry and cold, and at times my joints and nose and ears feel like they are on fire.
          My strength is fine.

          The wheelchair would just prevent me from having to carry bags and walk (it’s almost 1 mile) to the plane and wait in lines and all the things that are rough on my back if I don’t stop and stretch regularly. So I will just go very early, check my bag, stop and stretch regularly, stop for drinks etc… And since I’m immunocompromised, and have to stand in all the long crowded lines with everyone unmasked etc.. It’s never great. But I wear my N95, it protects me, it is not my right to tell others what to do. Yeah, freedom. Yes, it would have been nice to have the wheelchair to help give me priority to let me load early. I am sure the likelihood is very very low the flight attendants will let me load early for being sore and immunocompromised, but maybe they will. I will ask them when I check in if there is any other seat possibility.

          Some of us… aren’t rich.
          My medical care costs a small fortune for me.
          $2500 for a plane ticket is too much.
          And 1st class doesn’t give me more back extension, which is what I need.
          1st class has the same back extension as exit row on this airplane. I called and asked. And the airlines told me the exit row was fine for me with my abilities.

          But you are all very right in bringing this up, because it is very appropriate.
          Because I said I have medical problems.

          And many of you are saying, well then you shouldn’t have even thought about using a wheelchair/asking for that, if you are “strong enough”. Maybe you are right. But this is the only time in my life I have considered it. Once. And…. shouldn’t we value treating pain? Preventing pain?

          But yes, I could be stuck in the plane, on the tarmack for hours and an emergency happens where I have to empty the plane and save everyone’s life alone and/or be hijacked or whatever…. and I wonder the probability of that…. and that exact moment I decompensate instantly and suddenly can’t lift the exit door by myself with no help from the two people sitting next to me who are now ?dead. Yes, that could happen. And I assume all of you, do that calculation every time you fly and sit in an exit row or drive a car after drinking alcohol (ANY alcohol) or go to work or to a party with a sniffle etc… you weigh exactly and honestly how you are risking the lives of others. I am thinking about that.

          And I’m just trying to do the best I can. This is the last funeral of someone older than me in my small family. The last time all the family will come together. So I can’t miss it. Even for pain.

  5. I scored Adele tickets for February in Vegas (on Superbowl weekend, which I assume will be insane & I somehow didn’t realize it when I was chosen in the presale for this specific date). I have never been to Vegas in February but have been to the city 5 times in warmer weather. Is it worth taking a day tour to the Grand Canyon – we’ve never been? Will most of it be spent driving? What else should I do there on such a busy weekend and with the weather being cold-ish (no pools open)? Any other shows worth getting tickets to? I’ve seen a lot of the Cirque shows — sometimes purchased day of – but I also assume prices will be pretty high that weekend. Amazing restaurants (open to anything but mexican or seafood)?
    My husband thinks I should sell the tickets because demand will be so high that weekend, but I’m hoping to come up with a fun itinerary that won’t hugely break the bank.

    1. Grand Canyon north rim closes in October. South rim should still be open.

      FWIW, I have been to Vegas around that time and it was COLD. The dry air holds no heat at all.

    2. There’s great rock climbing and hiking around. Valley of Fire is supposed to be spectacular.

    3. I’ve been to the south rim of the Grand Canyon in late March and there was still a lot of ice and packed snow in the shady areas of the trail. My assumption is that February would be treacherous if you were planning on hiking down at all. If you only want to stay at the top and look in, it will be cold but not crowded.

    4. Personally, I would skip the Grand Canyon. It is a lot of driving and the weather will be iffy. There are a lot of lesser known areas closer (Red Rock is a good suggestion!) or you can visit Hoover Dam if you have not been there and the weather is nice.

      If you can get reservations for Hell’s Kitchen, it is a favorite of mine. Otherwise, go to Open Table and look for what has availability. There are so many good places to eat! Anything on the Strip will be expensive but only you can decide if the experience is worth it. Personally, I love to go down to the Arts District, browse the antique stores and have lunch. Much less touristy, much less expensive and a fun way to spend several hours. I will also put in my pitch for the Mob Museum (requires times tickets so not likely to be unpleasantly cramped) and the Neon Museum.

      One of my favorite things to do it get a table someplace with a lot of foot traffic and watch the world walk by. Especially on Friday or Saturday nights that show is just as much fun as anything you pay to see!

      Enjoy!

    5. This is super random, but we went to the Paranormal mind-reading show at the Horseshoe recently and it knocked our socks off. In a weekend in which we saw David Copperfield and a Cirque du Soleil show, it was our favorite BY FAR. It’s a tiny theatre so don’t worry about getting the expensive seats — the cheap ones are still close to the action and he involves everybody in the act. Also the hotel is next door to Paris Las Vegas, whose lobby bar is my very favorite place for sitting and people watching. Also, if you haven’t seen the Beatles Love show by Cirque du Soleil, it’s my favorite and I highly recommend it. It’s at the Mirage.

    7. I’m so jealous that you are going to see Adele! Do you like Adele? If so then do not sell your tickets. Does DH not want to go? If that’s the case then leave him at home and go with a friend. Seems like you are adding a bunch of other activities to the trip to make it more interesting for him, when seeing Adele in concert is reason enough to go. I wouldn’t plan any major excursions like the Grand Canyon unless you will be there for five or more days. Have fun!

    8. There’s plenty of free or low cost things to do in Vegas that are fun, but on Super Bowl weekend booking on only a few months notice, I’d expect to pay >$1k/night for a modest hotel. That’s what will break your budget, not activities. If you can’t find reasonably priced accommodations, I’d sell the tickets.

  6. does anyone have a mantra or way to talk yourself into working out? i just procrastinate and procrastinate

    2. Oh, I remind myself I’ve never regretted it. Except the time I did hot vinyasa with labrynthitis, I regretted that!

    3. I never worked out when I had to get to the gym (transit time + changing time 2x was more than my sad workout time) or arrange tennis. Now, I just run. From home. 15 minutes later, it’s over. Sometimes half an hour if I go crazy or just quit to walk more. Bam. Done. Onto the next thing.

    5. Say you’ll do it for an incredibly short period of time and you can stop. Like 10 minutes. Or 5 minute. Also put on your clothes in advance of trying to go so it’s not a barrier.

    6. Mantra: I am the type of person who works out.
      1) Is there someone you can tell you’re going to work out who will check in with you later that you’ve done it? For me it’s my spouse. If I really don’t feel like working out I’ll tell him I’m going to and three hours later he will say “Oh did you say you’re going to work out? Now would be a good time since the kids are napping.”
      2) get a workout partner or text someone to keep you accountable.
      3) put on your workout clothes first thing in the morning.

    7. I’ve decided that if I’m ever debating whether or not to go to the gym, I should just go to the gym. Whatever my reasoning is it doesn’t actually make sense, I will feel better if I go to the gym. Even if its just 20 minutes of exercise, its better than 20 mins spent watching Netflix or doing anything else involving a screen.
      Also pack all your gym clothes ahead of time and generally make it easier to go.

      1. This. Make it a personal policy. For example, I work out 6 days a week, 1 day off. It is not negotiable. (unless I am sick)

    8. Play 60. It’s a recommendation that children get an hour of physical activity a day, but I adopted it as my mantra. I tell myself it doesn’t matter what I do, just get dressed and go, and once I am off the sofa things fall into place.1

    9. Sign up to run a race with a bunch of people you know and trash talk them, so that you are forced to train for it to save face.

    10. I do work out regularly, and sometimes I really don’t feel like it. Especially Pilates, which I do enjoy but it can be challenging. My self talk is to remind myself that I work out to be strong. I want to be physically strong enough to do things for myself, and I know exercise helps my mood. For me, this has been more effective than lose weight, look good, or whatever. No matter what I exercise I do, I will be stronger when I’m done, and that strength makes me and my life better.

    11. One of my rules to live by is that sleep and exercise are the only two things that don’t take time and energy, they make time and energy. A little cheesy but it’s true.

      1. For most of my life, this wasn’t true (I always woke up exhausted and the more I exercised, the more I needed to rest).

        But after figuring out some medical things, for the first time in my life exercise is actually giving me energy and not just draining it and it’s wild.

      1. +1 After getting some serious chronic medical issues under control (and not being able to exercise after they developed until they were properly managed), I decided never again to complain about exercising because I am lucky to be healthy enough to be able to do it — even though I don’t like it and didn’t come from an exercise family.

        Also, I put my clothes on the floor by my bed before going to sleep so that in the morning, I put them on and go exercise (with a stop to brush my teeth and go to the bathroom first). Getting it done first thing – even if it’s cold and dark and not fun – makes the rest of the day much better.

    13. “In a half hour or 45 minutes, I can have this behind me, or I can still be talking myself into it and mad at myself for wasting time. Eleanor of 45 minutes from now wants now Eleanor to get her butt out the door.”

      1. I do the same thing: “9:00 Senior Attorney is going to be so happy that 7:00 Senior Attorney did this!”

        1. Man, you are way better at long term planning than I am. I can only convince myself that 6:30 me is happy that 6 pm me went for a run.

    14. This might not be the nicest self-talk, but something motivating for me is to frame it as what “kind of” person I want to be. Do I want to be the kind of person that works out promptly and goes about her evening, or do I want to be the kind of person who lays around agonizing over it until it’s too late and then feels bad? That usually motivates me to get it done.

    17. A few things. I have the Peloton app (it’s like $13/mo and there’s also an app for it on my Roku) and somehow having the app talking to me through my outdoor runs or on the screen making me do HIIT workouts just … makes me do it. I am also competitive with myself so I mark off my workouts on a printed calendar next to my desk that is ONLY for tracking my workouts, and it motivates me that if I don’t do it, I will not get to write a workout in for that day and my calendar will look more blank. Finally, my days are very very scheduled to the minute so I have to get it out of the way at certain times – if I don’t go at 5am or at 12pm on WFH days then I am not going to work out that day.

    18. Don’t let perfect be the enemy of the good.

      If i’m not up to a full work out, I will get on the treadmill and walk briskly (3-13-30) while watching TV on my ipad.

      Doing something small is way better than sitting and doing nothing.

    19. I struggled with my relationship to working out for a long time. From not doing it at all to overdoing it and all the in-betweens. I’ve settled into the most healthy relationship I’ve had to movement (key word!) ever:

      1) Re-framing “working out” as movement. That’s the primary purpose for me. Getting out of my usual sedentary state and just moving. For as dreaded as working out can feel, that feeling when you sit around all day somehow feels just as bad. Re-framing as movement widens your options: a walk, jog, run, yoga, HIIT, pilates…whatever! My daily mantra: just move. Sometimes that means dancing in my room lol.
      2) Gratitude. Knowing that the ability to choose to move is such a gift and one that is not guaranteed. So why not move while I can?
      3) As someone else mentioned, remembering that I never regret it but I do regret not doing it.
      4) Variety! I alternate pilates and strength training along with a daily long walk or short run. It ensures I’m never bored…and if I get there, I try a new class!

    20. Not a mantra but I try to remember that I live in my body every minute of every day. My body is the instrument through which I experience the outside world. I try to take care of my body with each choice (drinking, junk food, sleep, meditation, nourishing food, water, how i respond to myself in the mirror) so that I can make my experience the best it can be

  7. Looking for recommendations for a quality tote for court in the 300-700 dollar price range. I am at a loss as to what is tacky and what will be impressive to my clients and others. I love my tacky MK tote because of the bling, more interesting shape, interior lining, two-tones, sturdiness and space and not because of the MKs everywhere. I can put folders, a laptop and a small clutch in there. Even the nicer brands have no lining and I don’t get it. Please help me pick a new bag that I can use for several years. This is what I have.
    https://poshmark.com/listing/Michael-Kors-Large-X-Chain-Shoulder-Tote-Bag-Double-Wallet-VanillaBrown-653b16f9fedc5cfa9d6e9f04

    1. Have you looked at Tumi? They have leather and nylon options that are super professional and great quality.

      1. +1. I still regularly use my Tumi nylon bag that I received as a law school graduation present…in 2007.

      2. +1 Tumi – It will always check the work appropriate box. Not too flashy ($$$) of a logo, but also sufficient a brand that it will pass the “price of admission” for fancier work settings.

      1. +1. Love, love, love my Seville. I actually bought a Bottega Veneta tote that was way more expensive than my Seville and returned it because I didn’t like it as much.

    3. Go on eBay and find one by Prada that’s used. Has all the fun and bling but great quality and you can find totes in your price range.

    4. I like the leather (and only has one small metal logo) Coach work bags. I think mine is the Brooke Carryall (not the smaller one). I don’t know that it is necessarily impressive, but I think it is at least not tacky and is good quality. I have always loved Coach’s leather bags though.

    5. I’d think about the Cuyana system tote but if you are a person that likes bling, it’s the opposite.

    6. What kind of clients are you trying to impress? The Tumi and Lo&Sons suggestions are great but have no bling or interesting shape and won’t impress everyone.

      IMO if you are not commuting by public transit and want to impress, I would save up for a large Prada Galleria ($5k). I have the small and it’s my favorite bag.
      But if I had to carry a laptop on public transit or a long walk, I would get a nice looking looking backpack like the Lo&Sons one.

      1. Criminal clients who absolutely look at things like handbags as indicators of competence. Love all the responses, and yes, Cuyana is SO BORING to me. I need to tone down the bling but NEED a little in my life. I love the look of the Hammitt bags but those are too casual for court, and not sturdy enough.

          1. Ooo! I love this bag! Wish it had one big space instead of a divider but the look is perfect for me.

    8. Mulberry is on the high end of this range but could be manageable on sale. Their bags look very lux in person, you can just tell they are expensive.

    9. I am a big fan of Brahmin. It looks more expensive than it is, and I always get compliments. And it’s not too heavy and has lots of smart interior organization.

  8. Is anyone reading the Britney Spears memoir? Usually I feel like all the interesting bits get reported before the celebrity memoir comes out, but there seem to be more little treasures coming out of this one now that it’s been released. I just spent my Libro credit on it instead of all the lit fic that has been released recently :)

    1. I see the bits and pieces coming out on the DM site. I am sure that she has not read it and likely didn’t write it, but the poor thing seems to have been so used by everyone in her life and I hope that she can find someone truly in her corner and get some peace. It’s like Judy Garland — everyone in her life used her and needed her to be working when that was the worst thing for her. I feel bad for her — kid never had a chance it seems.

      1. I don’t know why you’re sure she hasn’t read it. She certainly had ghostwriters.

        I agree with a lot of what you say here about people using her. From what I’ve read and heard, this book is her first chance to really tell her own story with a lot of control over how it was done/told. Unless something else comes out about it, I’m assuming it’s more of an act of empowerment for her.

      2. It’s totally Judy Garland 2.0. Regrettably. And I am worried that Britney will end up with her life ending in a similar, sad way, much too early.

    2. I’m going to get it from the library. At first I was concerned that it’s just exploiting her again, but from what I’ve read, that’s not the case.

  9. Thanks for the responses about paying for upgrades when flying for work for a non-profit/higher ed! The last time I flew for work was when I was working in big 4, which is obviously a different deal. I’m getting status so hopefully this’ll be a non issue soon, but I’ve been thinking about the “do I have to do basic economy because its cheaper” of it all. I think I’m settled on normal economy, including luggage and avoiding being in a middle seat is expensible, nothing more. But at the same time I don’t have to go for the basic economy option.

    1. At least for me, normal economy is necessary because I may need to change my flights. Basic economy wouldn’t save money if even 10% of the time I was having to rebook and couldn’t change the ticket — and I end up changing my tickets way more often than that

    2. I work for a non-profit and was in higher es before that. I always book main cabin rather than basic economy. I think this is what people mean my regular economy, but Delta’s terminology is different. I also have no qualms about always flying Delta over Spirit or Frontier. I take public transit when it’s easy and I arrive during the day. I Uber at night and when it’s significantly more convenient. I don’t ask my org to reimburse me for upgrading to Comfort+.

    3. I’m in higher Ed and there are rules about when you can upgrade to premium economy but you’re next expected to fly basic exonomy

    4. It will vary by org, of course, but when I was over travel for an R1, we specifically DIScouraged people from basic economy because the restrictions often made it more expensive in the long run (fees for carrying, harder/impossible to reschedule, etc, depending on the carrier). We couldn’t outright prohibit them, or I would have.

    5. I work for a large but Extremely Frugal company (think – no Uber to the airport, you must drive and park in the shuttle lot, $13 meal limit, etc) and even we are not expected to fly basic economy because of the lack of cancellation/rescheduling (basic economy = the bare bones, personal item only fare, we fly “regular economy”, but not “premium economy”)

        1. Honestly I’ve decided it’s just worth paying the difference for something like chipotle or whatever. In a lot of cities it feels like even McDonald’s gets over $13 quickly!

    6. I’m in higher ed, and no one would expect you to book basic economy. Normal economy/main cabin is fine. But you cannot expense upgrades, including “upgrades” to Economy Plus (or Main Cabin Extra or Economy Comfort, depending on airline).

      Airline status is wonderful! Even low level status will get you Economy Plus or the equivalent regularly, and occasional upgrades to first class. When you get higher level status, you’ll be sitting up front more often than not on domestic/Caribbean flights, and you can potentially pay reasonably small amounts for international business class upgrades, which is the dream. It’s addictive. ;)

  10. Thoughts on acupuncture as a pain and fatigue management remedy? I have an autoimmune disease and am not seeking a cure, just some help. I’ve gone to a couple of appointments with an acupuncturist and no real results yet. Not sure if I should keep trying or call it quits.

    1. For me I found it had a dramatic, immediate therapeutic effect, but it wasn’t really worth it to me since the effect was short lived. If you haven’t found it therapeutic, I would give up or try a different acupuncturist. (I know acupuncture is used for other things like infertility, but I only ever tried it for pain and fatigue from autoimmune neuropathy.) I ended up having better luck trying different specialist physicians than trying different integrative care providers (it is wild to me how much MDs with the same credentials differ from one another!).

      1. To Anon @ 11:44, I tried acupuncture as well for my arthritis and tension headaches and had the same thing you’re describing (immediate effect but short lived). In my case, it lasted 3-5 days, and I don’t have the budget to go every week! But I got an acupressure mat and it is amazing. The effect isn’t quite as good as the acupuncture (it lasts 1-3 days and is more like 80% effective) but I can do it at home, any time I feel I’d like to. Highly recommend considering it!

          1. The brand I got is Shakti, it’s essentially a cotton yoga mat with a bunch of plastic spikes you lie or stand on. It was the first one when I googled, I like it! I often lie on it when I meditate and I find that really helpful.

    2. So from what I understand, acupuncture is a mind body thing. I went to acupuncture for ongoing problems with my foot and my podiatrist was out of ideas. Unfortunately my mind is way too skeptical and having a needle stuck into my scalp did nothing for my foot.

      (But you know what did do something for my foot? Finding out it was rheumatoid arthritis all along and getting on a biologic.)

      1. I think it can also be a peripheral nerve thing (not just central nervous system) maybe just because they’re poking around right near some of those nerves. I’ve seen it used for nerve injuries in cats, and I’m guessing it wasn’t because the cat believed in it really hard! But yeah it’s not going to treat RA; I’m glad your biologic is helping.

  11. I’d like to buy a pair of gold stud earrings with a flat back for everyday use. I’d love a shape that isn’t super boring, but that isn’t super flashy either – maybe a small bar shape or something? Where would be a good place to buy a solid gold pair that should last for years? Definitely prefer a classic vibe.

    1. I’m probably in the minority for this place, but I just go to the mall and browse until I find something I like. I have never had a problem finding nice things that last years.

    2. I have small knot earrings gold earrings and I think it’s a super classic shape and they go with everything.

    5. Mabel Chong (boutique jeweler out of SF) has gorgeous stuff, wide variety of styles, all a little edgy.

      I also really like Melinda Maria jewelry–it’s not solid, but it’s very well made fancy dupes–my experience is that it does not tarnish with wear.

  12. I know we have readers in management consulting here. I am curious . . . How did John Oliver’s recent segment on McKinsey hit in the industry?

    1. I’m definitely interested in responses to this. Would you repost in the afternoon?

      1. This has to be why my kid was talking about McKinsey. Big John Oliver fan. I was all “if you can get a job there, take the job there; you can always go somewhere else if you don’t like it.” Kid is a teenager; knows nothing, hence knows everything.

  13. did i miss a thread on our new nutjob speaker of the house? is there a head of lettuce somewhere under surveilance to see if it survives longer than he does?

    3. Unfortunately, it’s really rare for a speaker to get removed, so I doubt that will happen anytime before the lettuce liquifies.

    4. Does the “it only takes one Member to start removal proceedings” also apply to him? Or was it related only to Kevin McCarthy?

    5. I don’t think he will last past the next round of budgets. At some time the Rs have to compromise to get anything done, and that’s anathema for his MAGA colleagues.

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