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There is a MAJOR Shopbop sale afoot, which lots of great discounts. I've had my eye on these fleece-lined liquid leggings from Plush, and I'm psyched to buy some today on a deep discount since I always like the idea of faux-leather leggings in the winter, but then worry they'll be freezing when the wind hits them. I've occasionally layered silk long johns beneath them when I think about it, but that just makes everything feel bulky and, well, mom-ish instead of sleek and cool.
I'll poke through the rest of the sale a bit and see what else is good — these particular leggings are marked from $84 to $33.60 (but final sale); they're available in three colors in sizes M-XXL. (Oooh they also have them in black snakeskin. Hmmmn.) Lots in the sale from Plush, though.
(Update: I've just done a big roundup of some of my favorites in the Shopbop sale — see the bottom of this post for the widget. Major notes: big sales on Theory, L'Agence, Veronica Beard, Ferragamo and Tory Burch — also lots of FARM Rio for weekend in the sale!
Some of my personal favorites are these:
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Sales of note for 9.10.24
- Nordstrom – Summer Sale, save up to 60%
- Ann Taylor – 30% off your purchase
- Banana Republic Factory – Up to 50% off everything + extra 20% off
- Bergdorf Goodman – Save up to 40% on new markdowns
- Boden – 15% off new styles
- Eloquii – $29 and up select styles; up to 50% off everything else
- J.Crew – Up to 50% off wear-to-work styles; extra 30% off sale styles
- J.Crew Factory – 40-60% off everything; extra 60% off clearance
- Lo & Sons – Warehouse sale, up to 70% off
- M.M.LaFleur – Save 25% sitewide
- Spanx – Lots of workwear on sale, some up to 70% off
- Talbots – BOGO 50% everything, includes markdowns
- White House Black Market – 30% off new arrivals
What to Buy in the big ShopBop Sale
Sales of note for 9.10.24
- Nordstrom – Summer Sale, save up to 60%
- Ann Taylor – 30% off your purchase
- Banana Republic Factory – Up to 50% off everything + extra 20% off
- Bergdorf Goodman – Save up to 40% on new markdowns
- Boden – 15% off new styles
- Eloquii – $29 and up select styles; up to 50% off everything else
- J.Crew – Up to 50% off wear-to-work styles; extra 30% off sale styles
- J.Crew Factory – 40-60% off everything; extra 60% off clearance
- Lo & Sons – Warehouse sale, up to 70% off
- M.M.LaFleur – Save 25% sitewide
- Spanx – Lots of workwear on sale, some up to 70% off
- Talbots – BOGO 50% everything, includes markdowns
- White House Black Market – 30% off new arrivals
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Anon
Anyone start or get back into drawing/painting as an adult? Do you have any tips? I find it’s hard to sit down and start on weekday evenings because my creative energies are entirely sapped, and weekends are starting to get busy again.
nuqotw
Not sure if this fits the bill, but how about sidewalk chalk? I find it’s really easy to doodle something, get some fresh air, and feel just a bit lighter. If you’re talking about more serious art…I have no ideas.
Anonymous
I haven’t, but my mom has. I’d recommend you start with a class. Not necessarily as much for the lessons as the time that’s set aside. My mom’s been able to use a studio space as a result, too.
BB
I sort of did this! The caveat is that it was always a hobby for me as a child – didn’t go to classes all the time or anything. The key thing to remember is that there is NO pressure here. Draw/paint when you feel like it! For me, it’s usually sunny weekend mornings so there’s good light, and I’m not thinking about work. I’m generally a very scheduled/planning person, but for things like this, I just pick it up when I feel like I’ve got nothing to do. I don’t schedule time to do it necessarily. As a bonus for me, it’s amazing to go to art stores and realize I can buy myself pretty much whatever I want now. And there are so many tutorials on youtube now.
AnonInfinity
Have you tried doing it before work or during lunch? I imagine it’d be harder to pull paints out for just a short amount of time, but drawing seems conducive to that.
I don’t draw or paint, but I do enjoy creative writing. I write for an hour before work most days, but if I miss, I usually get it in at lunch or in a couple of “sprints” when I’m taking breaks from work. If I leave it until the evenings, I’m similarly zapped and it’ll never happen.
AnonInfinity
I just came back and second the advice to take a class! That’s how I got back into writing after a long hiatus. I took a class, then another class, and so on. Mine have all been online, some with a zoom component, some without. I do find the classes with a Zoom component are helpful because that gives me a set time each week where I think about nothing but writing for 3 hours, and I try to keep that spot clear in my calendar even after the class is done.
Anonymous
Can you take a class, even just life drawing? That would help me make time for it.
Anon
I started with coloring books. It doesn’t involve a lot of thought but it got me in the habit of picking up creative hobbies regularly. Eventually I wanted to learn about more advanced pattern techniques and such, and it led to bigger drawing activities.
Anon
I started a community college drawing course over zoom during the winter. It’s nice to have a schedule and structure, and have someone picking out my projects.
anon
+1 to classes.
I painted/drew every day until mid college and then slowly scaled back until barely doing any art at all once graduate school was done. The most effective way to get back into it for me has been a once a week class. Having it to look forward to, and having the accountability of a schedule and that it’s already been paid for is key. Kinda sad that that’s the way it has to be, but it is what it is.
Anon
Take a class! Here we have art societies that offer them but public schools also usually have adult classes that include drawing and painting. Being in that environment helps get you going.
Anon
Pretty tough to think about fleece lined anything right now, but I know it’s smart to buy off season. I’m just so sick of leggings after the pandemic, I’m not sure I will want to wear them at all this coming fall/winter.
Anon
I was eyeing this off as its a top of 9 degrees, or 42 Fahrenheit, where I am today!
Just in the mood for fleecy anything right now.
anon
This- it was 110 today. I don’t want to look at fleece, let alone buy it, until September, at the very earliest.
Anon
Tips for navigating the following:
Used to be at a more senior role. Joined an earlier stage company working with C-Suite. New Manager was hired above me (he has 15+ more years of experience, but I have 10+ years of experience–I am not junior). Now I do not work as much with C-Suite because anything, no matter how mundane, is handled by New Manager, even administrative tasks. New boss’s favorite thing is to information-hoard and for all info on the team to flow through him. Team does not have team meetings where we understand what each other is working on, with New Manager. We have tried. He shuts it down. Instead we have to backchannel to avoid overlap and duplicated efforts. New Manager constantly leaves me out of meetings, off email chains, and then when I don’t know what is happening, will claim he was “working too fast” and will _forward_ me one email, but chain of email and workstream continues without me, so I continue to be in the dark. I have talked to New Manager about this. Nothing changes.
From an outside perspective, being at this company is great. Inside, I am slowing dying inside, mixed with daily fury at being treated not-like-a-team-member and quite crappily. It does not feel good to constantly not be included.
Would you stay, or, is this a “Senior Attorney” moment, where, “when someone shows you who they are, believe them.”
Would the answer change if you had very lucrative stock options?
Would the answer change if you knew there was no way you could move up in the org, as even more layers are being added above you?
Would the answer change if you had been at your previous job only 14 mos, and this job 18 mos, so it looks like you might be a jobhopper?
Anonymous
I would bail. I’ve had enough insecure and abusive bosses that I will put myself first no matter what.
anon
In my opinion, when your description of your job is “slowly dying inside, mixed with daily fury,” it’s time to look for a new job. Take your time to make sure you land in a really good spot!
Anon.
Get out. New manager has 15 years experience so likely has a very ingrained management style that you don’t like (nor would I), unlikely to see drastic change in management style unless C-suite makes a mandate and even then it’ll be obnoxious.
Stock options might change the analysis assuming they are not vested, but I’d try to get the next job to grant equivalent options or bonus to help offset. Timeline at job wouldn’t change the analysis for me because job hopping is not particularly frowned upon in my industry. No room for advancement obviously adds to my position.
Anon
That’s true about the options. You can negotiate with your next employer to cover some of what you’re walking away from. Covering 50% with a signing bonus is pretty standard in my industry.
Anon
I can’t pretend the very lucrative stock options wouldn’t make me pause, but in general you should probably start looking.
Walnut
Assuming your stock options are on a set vesting schedule, I’d start looking for your dream job. It’ll presumably take some time for the stars to align and the proactive steps you’re taking will offset your daily fury. If some of those lucrative shares vest while you’re searching, then you’ve accomplished the best of both worlds.
Anon
I was in a version of your situation and I waited until they laid me off. I’m not saying it was necessarily the best move, but I saw the writing on the wall and wanted all of my contingent compensation (because I more than earned it!) and it I’d walked away I would have lost it all. They vested everything and gave me a severance. I am so happy not to be working there anymore!
Anonymous
Get out. Don’t make the same mistake I did by staying in a similar situation. Over time, I feel like I’ve been down-skilled significantly (I’m only working on a small fraction [or none] of the types of higher-profile projects that I did in the past before new boss and did in my past position for many years (13) –it was one of the reasons I had been hired). Anything plum–speaking opportunities, networking opportunities, etc. are all going to boss now or would be filtered by boss in a way that I no longer have access. This is crushing to me. And because of the information hoarding and poor communication, any work I do now feels so much harder. I can’t proactively anticipate road blocks on projects the way I used to be able to do or brainstorm because I often only have part of the picture. And the fun parts of the job–strategy, creativity have started to turn to the slog of execution (and miserable execution as I often disagree on the strategy) I also feel like this has damaged my network to some degree. People’s memories of my successes on the higher-profile projects get fuzzier. And the longer leadership sees me in the subordinate role, the more I feel like it’s hard to reclaim when I used to have a seat at the table. I’m now in the position where job looking is so much harder because my current role is so muddy and my work product doesn’t seem nearly as important as what I used to do earlier in my career. Start looking now. By the time you actually leave, you’re likely to be at least two years. And no one bats an eye at tenure if you’ve been able to show you’ve stayed somewhere pretty lengthy in the past.
Anon
I was in a similar position to you with a toxic manager and just when I was job hunting and ready to leave, my manager quit. My next manager who came on board (and was better) also quit that startup before I did, and I only stayed there 4 years. My takeaway was that a lot of people see startups as stepping stones and with all the changes and growth/new hiring, there is also bound to be a ton of departures.
So, it may well be that as new layers are added above your manager, he quits. I would hesitate to abandon stock options, especially with the jobhopper point you brought up. Keep an eye on the job market but also, be aware of undercurrents and the chances of movement – both your manager’s and yours. It may be that your previous experience presenting to the C-suite is something you can leverage to get into a new role that gets added at the company. Talk to senior people in other teams and make sure they like you and will suggest your name for relevant openings within the company.
Anon
Staying longer might make you a less attractive candidate – given this pattern, you won’t have much to say for your time there and that looks worse the longer you’re there.
Anonymous
In line with the low-waste lifestyle post, I’m trying to reduce our plastic usage, but one sticking point has been garbage bags. We really need to take out the kitchen garbage daily or it smells – it’s just unavoidable, even though we’re composting everything we can. It’s mostly due to my cat never eating all of her wet food so some of it needs to be discarded (and we don’t have a garbage disposal). I hate wasting that many plastic bags, though. Are there any compostable garbage bags that actually work or any other techniques you’d recommend to reduce usage of garbage bags? This is just for our kitchen trash – we take out the other ones much less often.
Elle
Take the left over cat food and put it in a plastic grocery bag in the freezer. Then the day before trash day throw it in your outside trash can. We do the same thing with meat wrappers/shrimp shells anything that’s smelly that can’t be composted.
Anon
+1
Anonymous
Can you not compost cat food or change the portion size? If I leave my cats leftover food out it will get eaten as a midnight snack, so I do that. It wouldn’t have even occurred to me to throw it out.
Anon
Yeah, you can definitely compost cat food, assuming it’s city compost. If it’s DIY and you’re doing meat-free, that’s another story.
But if you know that your cat routinely doesn’t eat all of her food, then feed her less. Make sure she has kibble in case you’re worrying about her getting hungry later. Those snap on lids meant to cover cat food cans work really well.
Anon
I don’t know anything about cat food, but can you serve a smaller portion? Put the remaining in the fridge for the next day?
Cat
We use an old diaper-style trash can for wet trash, and then it’s just one extra bag that we stuff in with the rest of the trash on garbage day.
Cat
Source- city dweller who does not have an outdoor trash can (nowhere to put it) and therefore needs to store a week’s worth of garbage in her kitchen trash can. It doesn’t smell because all the wet stuff is isolated.
Anon
I can only put my trash out the morning of pick up day because of bears, but I rarely have a problem with the smell in my garbage. Rotten meat is really the only thing that’s truly awful and if I have that, I’ll put it in a plastic grocery bag or two and stick it in the freezer until garbage day.
Anon
Our cats do the same thing with their wet food, but we seem to be fine just filling up the kitchen trash and taking it out once a week on trash day. It’s just a tiny bit, right? The freezer trick probably would work, but what do you do with the cat litter? We use a litter locker and also take out that bag once a week on trash day and it would probably be easy to just add the leftover cat food to that instead. It’s very good at containing smells!
Anon
I would start feeding your cat less. There are cat food can covers you can buy, and then feed your cat only half or 2/3 of a can at a time. That has the added bonus of saving you money and using less cans.
Anonymous
That is already what we do and have always done – but for some reason she’s just really consistent about how much she eats. Some days it’s the full serving, some days less.
Anon
+1 This seems like the really obvious solution.
Anon
An option is having a small trash can with an air tight lid. You can keep it out in the kitchen somewhere – the airtight lid will block the smell – but ideally in the fridge so that it doesn’t stink by trash day. It could even be an air and water tight food saver piece of plastic (reusable obviously).
No Face
Are you in an apartment or in a house? I have a trash can that I keep outside for smelly stuff, just outside one of our doors but that wouldn’t be an option in most apartments.
Also, the covers for opened cans are very useful to you can save the excess cat food for a later feeding.
Senior Attorney
Honestly I’d get a garbage disposal. If you’re a renter see if your landlord will pay for installation if you’ll buy it, or vice versa.
Aunt Jamesina
“Compostable” plastic is only compostable in industrial scale composting, not at home (and if you have a municipal compost program, I would double check to see if any bags you buy will be accepted by them). I stopped buying garbage bags a couple of months ago, and we just take out any waste that’s really wet and/or stinky to our large garbage bin outside, or if the weather is miserable, we use a small plastic bag we’ve saved from packaging to tie it up and put it in the kitchen bin. Despite all our best efforts to always use reusable bags, I swear we always end up with some at our house! We line our kitchen bin with paper grocery bags and it’s worked well for us.
Anon
Do you have a dog? I’m fortunate to have a large dog who acts as my garbage disposal (except for foods that are toxic). If you have a big dog who doesn’t have gut issues, I’m sure they’d be happy to assist with the task at hand.
LaurenB
Is that good for the dog? We fed our dogs dog food, and an occasional dog treat, but not any table food.
Anon
I think table food would not be good, but leftover cat food would be fine.
Horse Crazy
I just got a Fitbit Inspire 2, which included the year subscription to Fitbit Premium. Any tips to use it to the fullest? I’ve never had a smartwatch or fitness tracker beyond the Samsung Health app on my Galaxy phone.
Anon
From this morning and a brief spin through the Daily News (hangs head in shame): Britney and the forced IUD has me just stabby. I would get it if she were of diminished mental capacity (like had had a head injury and was in a vegetative state or dementia or something like that), but the woman is able to work full-time at a non-sheltered workplace. Maybe she is on meds incompatible with safely growing a baby? I hope that if she were a surgeon people would see that working FT and guardianship (her guardianship is older than my kid) are at some level incompatible.
Does she not get a guardian ad litem (or is that her conservator / dad)?
Anonymous
It’s an extreme human rights violation. There’s no two ways about it. Forced IUDs, sterilizations, or any other infringement on bodily autonomy is wrong – even when women make decisions others don’t like, even when it causes harm to others.
Anon
She’s on lithium which is generally not considered safe for pregnancy.
Anon
She’s forced to be on lithium and she’s forced to have an IUD. See the issue yet?
Anon
I was in no way disagreeing that there’s an issue. I was just answering OP’s question about whether she’s on any medicine that’s not compatible with pregnancy.
Anonymous
I feel like lately no one wants to talk to me/everyone is mad. I mentioned to a friend (via text) that at my job there are openings in corporate and they so desperately need people I am almost considering making the switch. Got a few “you do you” type of responses and have never heard from her again. Said to another friend the other day that I need a vacation and I got an OMG just go you always make such a big deal of travel even pre pandemic. Uh thanks? I don’t really because I vacation once in 2 years and am not constantly trip planning or gushing about my last vacation but ok that’s your opinion.
It’s not like I talk about myself 24-7 but when did it become a thing that friends don’t want to hear from you unless you’re reaching out to talk about THEM. And if you should mention anything interesting or a hard time in YOUR life, they get mad. I’m 40 BTW and these friends are 45 and 50 (no one has kids so it’s not that they are busy chasing a 2 year old and have no time to talk). What am I doing wrong here? It wasn’t like this — I feel like pre pandemic I had all kinds of conversations with these friends and they actually asked about me too.
Vicky Austin
I’m sorry your friends were short with you. Everyone I know is having a hard time right now; my doctor said the other day that the numbers of people seeking treatment for depression are shooting up all over the country. I don’t think you’re doing anything wrong, but I would probably chalk it happening twice up to coincidence and let it go.
Anon
I find people are crankier now than in the middle of the pandemic. Change is hard on everyone. My friendships have shifted too. But feeling like everyone is mad at you can also be a sign of your own depression so please take good care of yourself.
Monday
I notice that at so many businesses I have visited, there’s a sign of some kind asking customers to be kind and patient. I never saw those before Covid (except at hospitals like the one where I work!) That plus the stories about behavior on planes lately tells me that people are exceptionally irritable.
Anon
Understandably a lot of people are still having difficult times for a variety of life and pandemic related reasons so patience is short generally. But I have a strong inkling that you are a much bigger complainer than you think and/or you over analyze and over discuss things to death. People don’t respond so rudely for no reason.
anon
You aren’t doing anything ‘wrong’ and your friend’s responses were not kind. Is this typical of these friends? If so, you simply need new friends. If not, I think you could look at this as a particular time in relationships. I certainly know among my friend group everyone is at water level with their own problems/own feelings and no capacity to take on those of others. I feel that way too – I have very good friends who are moving, starting new jobs, making major life changes and while I care I cannot seem to keep track of dates of their stuff/being supportive as I normally would/responding to their emotions with a lot of capacity/interest. Honestly if someone wanted to regale me about happy things, like vacations, I definitely don’t have capacity to deal with that as a ‘non-essential’. It could be what is happening here.
No Face
I would not interpret “you do you” responses as someone being mad.
Anonymous
‘You do you’ is usually my response when I think someone is making a terrible decision but I know they won’t listen to reason.
anon
+1 this is often my response when something is not my bag or wouldn’t be my choice but it’s also not my place to stick my nose in it or I wasn’t asked for actual advice.
No Face
Yep. Running a marathon? You do you. I’m certainly not doing that, but I’m not judging either.
Anonymous
Really? If a friend responded with a simple “you do you!” to me, I would definitely take it as passive-aggressive or at the very least, weirdly curt. It would be a different vibe if it was “oh man, I couldn’t work at a place like that personally, but you do you!” or something more conversational.
Anon
I agree. If I were to respond “you do you” it would mean I disagreed with my friend’s choice but didn’t want to argue any more about it, but I wouldn’t start out with that. That would be after something like
friend: should I do this thing?
me: hmm, seems pretty risky
friend: but I really want to do it
me: ok but have you considered x and y
friend: I just really want to do it
me: you do you! (and thinking – not sure why you asked me)
Anonymous
It sounds like these two friends are just being jerks and it’s not necessarily indicative of a larger problem, but one thing I’ll add is that I’ve noticed people tend to have less patience for friends and family overthinking things. Do you find that you are overthinking things out loud? If your friend says “you always make such a big deal of travel,” is there a grain of truth to it? People are busy and burnt out and tired from their own decision fatigue – they don’t want to take yours on too. There’s a chance that’s not what this is at all (maybe your friend was just being snarky for no reason), but something to think about.
Cat
Partly I think people are kind of exhausted, and partly this may be just your writing style but… it comes out here as kind of long and dramatic and hard to follow, and maybe that’s easier when you’re chatting in person but doesn’t translate as well to a texting style.
Like I’m happy to speculate about career changes when chatting over wine or coffee or lunch. But it’s hard to tell over text like… on the job example, do you want to bounce ideas off me ? are you serious about this or just blowing off steam? If I’m in the middle of cooking dinner I might do the equivalent of nodding and smiling and letting you vent by text unless serious replies seem invited… in which case it’s hard to get into that big of a topic over text, you know?
Anon
+1
Cat
reposting for m-d
Partly I think people are kind of exhausted, and partly this may be just your writing style but… it comes out here as kind of long and dramatic and hard to follow, and maybe that’s easier when you’re chatting in person but doesn’t tr-nslate as well to a texting style.
Like I’m happy to speculate about career changes when chatting over wine or coffee or lunch. But it’s hard to tell over text like… on the job example, do you want to bounce ideas off me ? are you serious about this or just blowing off steam? If I’m in the middle of cooking dinner I might do the equivalent of nodding and smiling and letting you vent by text unless serious replies seem invited… in which case it’s hard to get into that big of a topic over text, you know?
Anonymous
People are having issues including my friends. I’m now ignoring them and doing what I need to do. If they want to be normal and reach back out at some point, my door is open. If they want to live how they’re living, that’s fine. They’ll socialize with whoever else they want and I’ll talk to my normal friends and family, who can compartmentalize the pandemic from day to day conversation instead of this constant — OMG how can you worry about a new job/vacation/anything good, everything is SOOO awful, people’s mental health, racial justice, blah blah.
Anonymous
I’ve experienced this too and I’m NOT a talker. Like expressing an interest in a job or a vacation is a 1 sentence thing for me. Honestly I think lots of people are using pandemic/post pandemic mental health as a reason to be jerks. Oh well. Hope they have some friends left at the end of this because I’m not going to sit around and take it. I simply contact them much less and have plenty of conversations with friends and coworkers who are acting normal and kind and not different from how they were in 2019.
Anon
+1
Wondering&Wandering
Question to all of you who bill by the hour (especially attorneys):
Assuming that you bill for travel, do you bill for the actual time spent traveling or the amount of time indicated by google maps/the airline?
I am involved in a fees dispute and the other side is claiming that my team routinely overbilled by .1 and .2 hours for travel time in excess of the travel times indicated on google maps. This seems insane to me (have you heard of traffic? delays? boarding time and that little safety lecture?), but their insistence has me doubting myself.
Cat
actual time traveling. I mean if you’re billing like 8 hours for a 2 hour flight, no, but that’s clearly not the issue for you.
Anon.
Actual time traveling. Opposing party is being ridiculous.
No Face
Actual travel time, including traffic, flight delays, etc. We bill for our actual time, not what some idiot thinks the time should be.
Anon
On the other hand, I just found out an attorney friend billed one client for his travel costs and travel time as he was traveling to work on their case, and billed a second client for the time he spent working on their file during the flight. Yikes.
Cat
yeah you can’t do that, lol.
it’s funny, however, that being allowed to bill for travel is kind of a disincentive to working on the client’s OWN work while in transit – because you’re essentially then doing the oppos-te of double billing.
anon
Oof that’s a major ethical issue.
No Face
Yeah, thats just unethical. No double billing!
anon
Actual time traveling, with the caveat that I will generally write down the actual time if there was a big delay or something – e.g., I won’t bill the client if my hour long flight got delayed for 5 hours due to mechanical issues (unless I was actually working on stuff for the client during that time).
Of Counsel
Actual travel time and I would point out that Google maps does not include (1) any cushion to avoid being late if there is traffic; (2) time spent parking; (3) often incorrect depending on time of day and weather conditions. Claiming a .1 or .2 overage is ridiculous anyway.
If someone was routinely billing an extra hour for every trip I would certainly question that but a .1/.2 is leaving time for traffic and parking.
Anon
Has anyone done a sailing trip in the British Virgin Islands? Recommendations for companies to charter from or places to stop at? My mom and I have talked about this for years and are hopefully going to finally do it next spring/summer (assuming the vaccines stand up to future variants, since she’s 70). We’re avid snorkelers and also enjoy swimming and other watersports. We don’t drink and don’t care too much about food on a trip like this.
goseeturtles
I did this a while ago with my parents who are avid sailors so we did a bareboat charter (ie no crew). We went to Anegada and I absolutely dream about the snorkeling there. I understand it was hard hit by Hurricane Dorian but hopefully recovering. It was a dream vacation.
Rox
Yes, and it was fabulous! We did a bareboat charter through Sail Caribe. 1000x recommend Anegada and you can find several other amazing snorkeling spots at all of the other islands.
Buying a house with a partner!
My bf and I don’t want to get married (as a general principle) but want to buy a house together. Any recs for the best way to do this – should we set up a separate legal entity? We are both divorced so we know that relationships can fail and want to protect ourselves and each other. We’d plan to get one with a mortgage that either of us could manage completely on our own. He’d put down a lions share of the down payment and then we’d split the mortgage and house expenses (eg taxes, renovations, etc.) down the middle. I make about $175k/year and he makes about 8x that amount.
Also, is just silly to enter the housing market given the crazy prices?
anon
#goals
(This has to be a troll)
anon
Yeah people with that much money don’t have mortgages.
Anon
Not true at all
anon
Well it’s true for me but I guess my wealth is mostly inherited rather than earned so YMMV
Senior Attorney
The biggest issue, as in a divorce, is what happens if you split. How will you divide the gain/loss, who gets to stay in the house, and so on. I’d strongly recommend getting a family lawyer (or one for each of you) to help you draft documents that are clear and enforceable.
Anonymous
It’s Silly that one very well off person and one very very rich person are asking the internet this question. Go pay for an excellent lawyer to advise you.
Anon
+1 Your BF earns an ungodly amount of money. You need a lawyer and/or financial advsior to help you with this.