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1. Hi! Need to snag a suit in West Palm, Palm Beach or Palm Beach Gardens today – $400 max. Do AT/BR carry suiting in stores? Thanks!

   1. Some BR definitely do, and every AT I’ve ever been in does. I’d call and check so you don’t end up driving around to various locations, though.

   2. AT now has a pick up in store option on its website, so I’d start by shopping online and see if you can find something immediately available that way. You could probably call around for BR.

2. I love these pumps, and really have to start looking at 2 1/2 inch heels b/c as I get older, the 4″ pumps just are too taxing on my back. The manageing partner wants me to keep wearing them to court, but I put them in my TUMI bag and wear my Nike’s down there. I do like the look of these shoes, and wish I were 2″ taller. I could then be able to have men take me more seriously b/c I could look them in the eye and they would NOT be able to stare down at my boobies like they do now. FOOEY on men who objectify us women only for our boobies and tuchuses and do not focus on the fact that we are professionals with legal degrees and NY Bar Admissions, which are NOT easy to get in New York State.

3. I might post this again in the morning for more suggestions. I am at a complete loss for what I want to do with my life. I’m 26 and have been in a boring field for 4 years that I just feel is not for me (banking). I have an equally boring bachelors degree to go with it. I make decent money, have done all of the right things for promotions, and am generally well respected by my peers. However, I feel completely unfulfilled and want to do something more creative. What are some creative careers? I’m not really talking about classic artist, painter, sculpture maker (which are always on the list when I google this question)….at the same time, I don’t know WHAT I am looking for. I want to somewhat maintain my lifestyle financially but I’m willing to take a pay cut for a sense of fulfillment. I’m just not sure what to even research or pursue.

   1. Can you do a fulfilling hobby and keep the career that pays the bills? Changing careers seems drastic and not like a first step. Experimenting with different hobbies is a safer way to go, to find one you really like enough to try to turn it into a career.

   2. Since you’re feeling unfulfilled and also undecided, this sounds like an opportunity to explore with hobbies and volunteering. Try an art class or cooking class and see if that’s a fun break or a true passion. Or try volunteering to add to that sense of fulfillment.

   3. At your age I would find a hobby you enjoy first that taps your creative side and put that money in the bank. I felt this way, too, but imo I work for money so that I can fund the creative stuff I enjoy. Not everyone feels this way, but having made it through the last recession without losing my job I’m reluctant to give up a good paying one.

   4. Could you keep the career but in a more exciting area or field? Does your position have similar ones in creative fields that allow more scope for what you do day to day? For example, I have a friend who is a lawyer, hated working at a law firm, but instead of quitting law, moved to work for a well-funded arts non-profit. The problems are unique and the people are fun, which makes the work much more enjoyable, if operationally the same.
      What role in banking do you play? There is a big difference between a marketing team member, M&A advisor, accountant, and recruiter all in banking.

   5. I found myself in a similar situation, and what’s helped me is keeping my boring day job and using it (and the $$) to help fund the things I really care about. I appreciate the stability my boring job provides and the freedom it gives me to pursue my passions.
      In lieu of making a huge life change just yet, I’d recommend thinking about what you’re passionate about and what you think might bring you the fulfillment you’re craving. When you were young, what did you used to dream about doing when you grew up? For me, that was singing, so I practiced and auditioned and joined a really great choir that I’m able to participate in after work and on the weekends.

   6. “Creative” can mean lots of different things – do you have a focus at all?

      I work for a major retailer, so creative careers range from product designer (from cool things like clothing/home decor to design of household cleaner bottles), to various roles in marketing, to visual merchandising. I’d even argue that designing new processes lends itself to a certain level of creativity.

   7. I had to change jobs this year and when looking for my new job was determined to be picky and “find something I really loved” (also finance background). My mom’s advice was that even if I start off with a job I love, a job is a job, and eventually I wouldn’t love it because it’s work. I agree with Anon at 3:38, what if you just find good hobbies you love?

   8. Any chance you can change within your field? I was really unfulfilled in my previous job and am much happier in my new job, even though I do pretty much the same thing. I have more freedom and more ability to focus on what I like within the field, which makes it more “creative” (within limits – most jobs come with boring administrative tasks but, as mentioned above, they also pay the bills). I’ve also found fulfillment in other ways – starting a new hobby, getting involved in politics, volunteering, etc. I think a lot of us feel like this when confronted with the boring reality of adulting and then finds ways to work around it.

   9. Definitely find a great hobby. A friend of mine was in a similar position – steady but deathly boring job that paid well enough – and she felt like she was having a personal crisis. She ended up taking up a hobby she’s now SUPER passionate about (dance) and now the job is the thing she does 9-5 and the hobby is the thing she gets excited about.

   10. If you think you would like working in the arts, look into fundraising. It pays better (not like banking though) and sales skills/corporate contacts can be valued.

       FWIW, I think it is hard to find entry level jobs that are really fulfilling. Entry level work tends to be a certain amount of grunt work. Do you think you would like doing what your boss does?

       1. I was coming here to say the same. In a well-funded organization, top fundraisers can make well into the 6 figures — not as much as a banker, certainly, but enough to live more than comfortably. It’s a creative field in that you’re dealing with interesting missions and you’re always trying to brainstorm the best/most effective way to approach someone (as well as new and fun ways to show appreciation for their gifts). The financial acumen and client skills that I’d assume you have as a successful banker will go a long way toward making you a great fundraiser.

   11. What about taking a class in something professional and creative? I suggest this partially because at some point I want to take a graphic design class to learn how to use all the tools and tech (since I haven’t really used any of that stuff since high school). Night classes or something similar could give you a taste of the work without the commitment of quitting your job.

   12. I felt similarly in my first career. I figured out that the part of my job that I liked had to do with making new “things,” and the part I hated had to do with maintaining existing “things.” I went back to grad school to train for a career in which I am always creating new things, or at least doing things in a new way or with new subject matter. Would moving into a position where you are building new things, whether that’s financial products or computer systems or business processes, fulfill the need for something more creative?

       1. I’m not the OP for this, but your post resonated with me. I’d love to hear more about the field you moved to (if you’re willing to share).

       2. This. I figured out pretty early on that if the job is to manage a system that work “well enough” and there is no interest on optimizing it, I am not your gal. But if it is broken and everyone knows it needs to be fixed or there is a big competitive disruption or regulatory change coming, then I am ALL IN. It means that once I fix things I have to move on, but there is tremendous creativity in fixing things or devising new solutions. Good luck.

   13. Honestly I would take this as a sign that you need a big step up opportunity career wise. doesn’t need to be in banking if you find that boring. Ppl in banking can transition to all sorts of cool things, would you be interested in one of those? I’m in PE and I know a lot of people who have found this more interesting. Whatever it is, I don’t think this means you need to look elsewhere for your entertainment

   14. You do not mention if you are single or married. You are young, so you still have a good possibility of having kids. Do NOT underestimate the value now. I am 37 and have a great job, make money but now that I am older, am UNLIEKLY to have my own children. If you are single, you have options, but I recommend finding a good guy NOW and marrying him while you are still young and pretty. Trust me, you will not get better with age; I didn’t. So if men and kids are on your agenda, do it now, especially since you are not crazy about your job. You will at least have a family to hang with if you get married and pregnant this year. Go for it; I would if I could! YAY!!!

   15. So, this is less risk-averse advice than most other posters, but you are 26 and seem unattached (no kids/mortgage). If you are going to change careers, you are in a better position to do it now than later. This is why you are probably at the most common age for people to go to grad school. Most other posters are assuming that you went into banking thinking you would like it, but did you? Did you actually want to do banking or did you just do it in order to get a job?

       My college roommate was very creative and double majored in finance and studio art. She got a Masters in Accounting because she thought it would be the best way for her to get a job. She got a job and hated everything about it. As time went on, she felt like she was not doing great work because she hated it so much. She then went to a software school and is now a software developer. Programming is analytical and also, depending on the job, can be very creative. (My husband used to work with a developer who had gone to art school). She is much, much happier. Not saying you should necessarily jump ship and go program, but just something to think about.

       1. I agree with this and was jumping on this thread to basically say this. Personally, if I was 26 and had the same creative interests I do now, I’d go into interior design. You don’t need expensive grad school to do it – you can get a certificate and education usually at a community college and internships. I was stunned to learn when looking for a kitchen designer that those firms charge as much as lawyers to design spaces. It’s not as defined a path, requires talent and hustle (like everything really), but at your age I would 100% do that or something like it.

   16. I would recomend you two things to read:
       1- To re-evaluate how you finish in that career path this article https://waitbutwhy.com/2018/04/picking-career.html
       2- To think where you want to go from now this book “What Color Is Your Parachute?” http://www.jobhuntersbible.com/
       At your age, you are in a perfect moment to make a change, it does not matter if it is in the same field or if you need new training.

   17. What aspects of your job to you enjoy the most? I hated my first job but chose my next one based on what I liked about the first and have taken more of a step by step approach to find the right job rather than a huge leap. I’m in marketing which I love because of the mix of quantitative and qualitative work every day, I get to use both sides of my brain and be creative and visual (I studied art history) while using my business skills in a well-paying career.

4. Sorry, these shoes look really costumey to me.

   It’s been awhile since we had a books thread (or maybe I missed one? Have been irregular over the holidays). What would you all recommend to load up my Kindle for 2019? I like clever mysteries/mystery-like plots (Magpie Murders, The Word is Murder, Gone Girl, Woman in the Window), historical fiction (America’s First Daughter, The Nightingale), and light sarcasm a la Where’d You Go Bernadette. Just OK on light modern romance/family drama a la Liane Moriarty, but I did enjoy Big Little Lies…

   1. Have you read Robert Galbraith (JK Rowling)’s murder mysteries? The fourth and newest one is my favorite yet.

      1. Ooh I kind of forgot about those after I read the first one. Will give them a try again! Do you need to read them in order?

         1. Yes, I would. The dynamics between the two main characters is my favorite part of the books, and reading them out of order would ruin that.

            1. Both my 24-y-o DS and I feel exactly the same way – the Cormoran-Robin relationship is a big part of why we read them (well, listen on audio, we both drive a lot – the audio narrator is wonderful).

         2. It’sbest to read them in order because several characters’ relationships evolve.

   2. A few suggestions: In a Dark, Dark Wood; Eleanor Oliphant is Completely Fine; Today Will be Different; A Man Called Ove;

      Other favorites in the last year or so: The Alice Network; the Collector trilogy; Behold the Dreamers; Family and Other Catastrophes; Everything We Keep; Everything We Left Behind

      1. A Man Called Ove was AMAZING — I definitely should have listed it in my examples above. Thanks!

         1. If you like the author of Ove, try Beartown. Really tough read, but so, so good. There’s a sequel that’s great too.

            1. I also loved Britt-Marie Was Here and My Grandmother Asked Me to Tell You She’s Sorry. Fredrik Backman is great!

      2. I have a semi-similar taste in books to you and really enjoyed the entire Dublin Murder Squad series and read all of them this summer. I also recently read Anatomy of a Scandal and the Death of Mrs. Westaway and liked them both a lot too.

   3. Books I read in 2018 you might like:
      Clare Mackintosh’s books – I Let You Go, I See You, Let Me Lie
      Eleanor Oliphant is Completely Fine
      Where the Crawdads Sing
      The Alice Network
      Lilac Girls
      Before We Were Yours
      In the Hurricane’s Eye
      Less
      Calypso
      If you have Amazon Prime, don’t miss downloading a free “First Reads” every month! You actually get two in January. I think of them as a bonus and great way to read something I might normally not have picked up – I just got Snow Gypsy and Rock Needs River for free and am looking forward to both.

   4. Most of my recent favorites are on one of the above lists already.
      Little Fires Everywhere – very beautiful contemporary fiction but with some definite mysterious elements
      Eligible – Curtis Sittenfeld’s updating of Pride and Prejudice, very funny
      Into the Water by Paula Hawkins (who wrote The Girl on the Train)
      Sunburn by Laura Lippman
      Midnight at the Bright Ideas Bookstore
      Kate Atkinson’s books featuring Jackson Brodie, starting with Case Histories
      All the Clarr Mackintosh novels, “I Let You Go,” etc.
      The Alice Network
      All the Dublin Murder squad novels by Tana French – you don’t have to read them in order, although it’s very, very slightly better to do so. Her most recent book, not part of the series, is The Witch Elm. I didn’t love it as much as the others, for some reason, but it ended up on a lot of 10-best lists including the NYT, I think.
      The Child Finder
      Cross her Heart, by Sarah Pinborough
      Anything by Ruth Ware. I liked In a Dark Dark Wood best, but also the Death of Mrs. Westway and the Woman in Cabin 10; I just started The Lying Game
      J K Rowling/Robert Galbraith’s Cormoran Strike novels, and absolutely read them in order
      If you’re not looking for something recent, any of Ruth Rendell’s psychological thrillers, especially those written as Barbara Vine, are excellent
      Very old school: An Unsuitable Job for a Woman, P.D. James

   5. Try the Kate White murder mystery series — Bailey Wiggins I think? Former editor of Cosmo.

      1. For Historical fiction, We were the lucky ones and Carnegie’s Maid. The first is a true story & is amazing. For a light read, I’m enjoying From the corner of the oval. It’s by one of Obama’s stenographers. Fun easy read & a good read for those that are a fan. Interesting insight into the White House.

   6. I really like Before We Were Yours. I typically don’t enjoy historical fiction but thought this book was very well done. It’s about an actual history of child trafficking where children were taken from poor families and sold to adoptive parents. The story was fascinating and it didn’t include graphic descriptions of child abuse (which I hate reading), even though what happened was terrible. There’s also a bit of a mystery as you try to figure out who is who from the historical story and the present day.

   7. Have you read anything by Ruth Ware? If you liked Gone Girl, you will probably like her books — I think they are much better than Gone Girl. Also check out Gillian Flynn’s other books if you haven’t. Dark Places and Sharp Objects were both great reads.

5. Anyone want to help me figure out where to go this year?! I loved the thread yesterday on everybody’s vacation plans for 2019 and thought you gals might have some suggestions for me that I haven’t thought of – I’m stuck on where to go. We are already doing a whole family beach trip with friends for Spring Break and have plans to do a long weekend to see another friend in San Diego sometime late Summer so not looking for anything beachy. Flying from major SEUS city and have tons of Marriott points to use for hotels. Open to domestic or international for both.

   Trip 1 – Just my partner and I, 7-10 days in length, celebrating a milestone anniversary this year and we like to mark them with special trips vs. gifts. Ideal travel time would be July (kids are already with their grandparents for 2 weeks), but could maybe work out a different time during the school year for kid coverage. I’d like to do Greece, but I hear it’s miserably hot and crowded in the summer (and we already live somewhere where it’s miserably hot in the summer). Looking for mix of active/sight seeing plus good food/wine. Most recent other trips include Prague, Ocktoberfest, Punta Cana, London, Paris, Napa, and Rome/Florence.

   Trip 2- Whole family which includes 2 young teen boys. Probably long weekend (4-5 days total). Timing either summer or Thanksgiving break. Kids are great travelers and up for anything but they (and I to be honest) get bored doing museums all day but they’ve loved NYC, London, Washington DC, San Antonio as examples. I like to get away as just our family unit at least once a year and explore someplace new. Was thinking maybe this would be a good time to explore a city they’ve never been to before – Seattle? Niagara Falls? Banff? Somewhere in the NE? Boston?

   1. If you do Boston, you’re better off coming in the summer than Thanksgiving – the weather that weekend can be unpredictable and all the foliage will be gone by then. In the summer you can walk around more, rent some kayaks and paddle around the Charles, and maybe check out a Red Sox game while you’re here! We also have some escape rooms your boys might like, and Boda Borg which has more of a physical component but I forget if that’s accessible by public transit.

   2. For your Trip #1, my husband and I went to Croatia 2 years ago and loved it. We went for 2 weeks and a handful of cities, but I’d suggest Istria region in Croatia. It’s very foody, we still talk about some of the amazing meals we had, and you can drive around to different cute little cities and enjoy delicious wine and truffles for pretty reasonable prices. Renting a car/driving is very easy to do and the country is gorgeous. I don’t know how weather is at that time..but just my first thought!

      1. Ditto to Croatia! We did a week long honeymoon (a few days in Dubrovnik, a day and a half in Split, Krka National Park, and flew out of Zagreb). I easily could have spent more time in any of those cities and done more day trips out of the city (islands, Serbia, wineries). Might be crowded in July (we went the last week of May), but it was so so fun.

         Also dittoing the person above that suggests summer instead of Thanksgiving in Boston. In addition to weather being more fun, the city is more enjoyable when there’s less students around. Once small thing I always loved is the giant walkthrough globe (which is in the Christian Science museum if I remember right)?

      2. Do not go to Croatia in July, super hot and super crowded. May-June or Sept would be better options there.

   3. With the caveat I haven’t been and it’s kind of far for 7-10 days (depending on if you can get a direct flight), what about South Africa for the July trip? It will be their winter, so weather won’t be too hot (but by the same token I don’t think it gets really cold). They’ve got wineries, you could spend a couple of days on safari, I think whale watching season starts near cape town around that time. I looked in to this trip a lot for my honeymoon and the usual itinerary seems to be a few days in Cape Town with a day trip to the nearby wineries, then fly to the other side of the country and spend a few days in one of the national parks or game reserves (we ended up going to Tanzania instead for various reasons, but I still want to get to South Africa at some point)

   4. 1- Greece

      2- do you ski? I’d do that

   5. With your boys- Park City Utah in the summer! Hiking, mountain biking, great food, Olympic Park, moderate hot temperatures with low humidity!

   6. 1) Greece. We went in August and it was fine. Just visit islands and go to beach/pool. Athens is not, though I wouldn’t say miserably so.
      2) Hawaii – tons of physically active stuff to do as a family

      1. That should be “Athen is hot” not “Athens is not”!

   7. The best trip I’ve taken recently was Japan – it was such a cool experience, easy to navigate, and had that really different from America feeling. We did Tokyo, Kyoto and Hankone (hot springs Onsen area).

   8. 1. What about Ireland? You could spend a few days in Dublin and then head out exploring. Probably won’t be that hot ( was last there in August for Dublin + hiking/walking parts of the Ring of Kerry and it was fine weather wise).

   9. If had to be in July and you like food/wine I would say north of Spain or France in Europe (Spain less crowded for sure). If you can move dates September in Provence (France) or La Rioja (Spain) would be amazing and as I said in other post Croatia in May-June or Sept is fantastic (I did in May and loved it, my sis in July and want to kill herself)

6. I love a strap on a shoe, but this kind of high ankle strap never quite works to hold the shoe onto my foot. I’m hoping that straps that cross in front of the ankle will become trendy.

   1. I also need a Mary Jane or ankle strap to keep shoes on

      You might find these ugly
      https://www.zappos.com/p/product/8975697/color/675608

      But the ankle strap is in the right place. I think they’re kind of jolie laide. I wear them a lot in my casual office.

7. Any ideas on how to have my boss (it’s just her and me) return her comments to me before the 11th hour? I have tried reminders, emails, leaving copies of the document on her desk but nothing seems to work.

   It’s always last minute editing, where I end up staying until midnight scrambling to meet filing deadlines after doing 10 rounds of edits for minor changes each time that I would have easily been able to incorporate given more time.

   1. Apologies if you’re already doing this, but can you create artificial deadlines? Then when she blows them, you can start creating an artificial sense of urgency… “we’re 3 days behind schedule and I’m worried we’ll miss the filing” etc. etc.

      I’ve also worked with my boss’s admin to block out some time on her calendar for her to do the review. That might be worth trying if you think she’d be open to it. I pitch it as “I know your calendar gets so busy,” etc.

   2. Do you have a decent relationship with her overall? And if so, can you bring up the problem to her very directly – if you haven’t already? That is, if she’s generally a reasonable person (but perhaps also just clueless about how this is affecting you), maybe if you bring it to her attention as a thing that is impacting your ability to get your job done and that you want to collaboratively find a solution to, she’ll be open to changing. But if she realizes it and/or just doesn’t care how it impacts you, then ugh. Not sure how to change that.

   3. Book a meeting with her to review her comments. That always gets me to review.

8. For anyone that needs a laugh, I just somehow booked my 18 month old a rental car. Can I go to sleep yet? :)

   1. Ha! I can’t believe their site would even let you do that.

9. Dear 23 year old analyst who has a fever, is sneezing and coughing: You are not tough. You are not impressing anyone. When I told you to go home I was not kidding. ROAR.

   This person is not technically a direct report (your boss is the partner on any given deal you’re working on so he has like 6 deals so “bosses” right now) so I can’t put a hard foot down, but like. COME ON. We can do 100% work from a phone and laptop. There is zero reason to be in the office. /end rant

   1. If you could figure out how to do it, an anonymous note to HR would probably be appreciated by everyone within sneezing distance. Or, not anonymous if it doesn’t need to be. Sorry and good luck. So many young adults don’t get how obnoxious and selfish it is to put the entire office at risk of catching the latest cold.

      1. Excuse you? In no way is this a “young adults” problem.

         1. Yeah and to the extent it may seem more common among young adults, please don’t think they’re oblivious. They’re nervous about taking sick time or asking to work from home. They’re apprehensive that if they ask to join a meeting remotely that they’ll be seen as slacking or not paying attention. Maybe it’s headache-inducing to try to format their spreadsheets on a small laptop screen rather than at their desk with a good monitor setup.
            This is not something to bother HR about!

            1. Second all of this.

            2. Right, a lot of us were told to suck it up in high school if we weren’t basically dying, so we carried that through college and into our early careers. Especially when I was new, and still living with my parents, it was the same thing, “are you sure you’re sick?” “are you sure your manager’s okay with you missing work?”
               I was about 27 or 28 when I finally said “screw it, I have sick days for a reason, my boss likes me and I do good work, I will use these sick days however I see fit because I’m an adult.”

            3. +1 PLEASE don’t bother HR with stuff like this.

         2. +100000000000 The worst offenders I’ve ever seen are not young adults.

      2. Not a young adult and still unlearning 25 years of toxic workplace attitudes regarding toughing out everything short of ebola. That sort of culture is pervasive.

         1. +1. Cut the junior employee some slack. He or she is probably (rightfully?) scared of the consequences of taking sick leave.

            There was a good post about this very topic on AAM last week.

   2. https://slate.com/human-interest/2019/01/direct-report-sick-leave-office-etiquette.html

   3. she’s probably trying to save vacation days or something…

   4. Maybe he/she has a roommate sitch or something and doesn’t want to be home? It’s no excuse, but there might be circumstances you’re not aware of. Yes, they should go home, dammit.

      I had an employee who reported to me, turned out when he worked from home he was in a public library because he was staying with his brother and the wifi in his room wasn’t good. It wasn’t acceptable, because he had to be on conference calls and he would be whispering or running out of the library building for calls, and then had no wifi… sigh. He did end up getting let go in a round of layoffs at a point when he no longer reported to me. This was not the only red flag btw.

   5. Maybe he/she doesn’t have sick days. Looking at my slightly feverish self in the monitor. I’m 4 days away from getting my vacation/sick days.

10. late in the day, but I’ll ask: how do you guys keep track of recipes you want to try? I have them in my phone camera, email, Pinterest… and I never try any of them.

    1. Paprika app! It’s one of my favorite recs from here. It costs a couple of bucks but totally worth it. It let’s you meal plan and do grocery lists by clicking on recipe ingredients too!

    2. I started using Paprika based on a recommendation here. It is awesome!! Small fee to buy in the app store but totally worth it!

       1. Paprika looks great but can you have one account for two devices?

          My wife and I share cooking duties depending on schedules so I am looking for an app that houses all our fave recipes that we can both upload to, access on our devices, etc

          1. This is late so you may not see it, but yes. You have one account and can use it on as many devices as have the app. I use paprika on my iPad and iPhone and they sync (albeit not as quickly as I’d like—sometimes it takes a bit for a new recipe loaded on one device to show up on the other).

    3. My Pinterest is a trainwreck, so like a good nerdy accountant I made a spreadsheet.

11. I am probably too late for today so I will repost this tomorrow. I am happy with my current job (employed by a consulting company in a technical field) but also, I am beginning to receive linked -in inmail from recruiters (both in-house and industry recruiters) that is a lot more targeted to what I do, and would like to talk with some of them to see what else is out there, what I might be missin, what ny current worth might be in the market, etc. i am not actively looking, but I would not waste their time either – I would consider moving if the offer is interesting enough. How does one do this? I am indeed that clueless. I have always landed my jobs through very few applications and interviews and have never had to look while working (between my job changes there was always a country change, a career change with a detour to school, starting my own company, etc.) I was always the one looking or someone had referd me. I ignore mass or clearly irrelevant inmail but as I said, they seem to be getting more targeted and mentioning specific relevant points in my profile (but stay vague about the opportunity).

    So how does one do this if you are currently working, not desperate to change jobs, are approached and are curious to find out more? How do you vet if they are serious? What questions is it OK to ask about position, name of the company they are recruiting for, compensation range etc.? Is it OK to ask f more details about the position first or do you normally answer their questions about you first, and how much do you tell them in the first conversation? What time do you talk to them if you are very busy at work and most of the time in a public space? I guess I am just asking how the process ususally goes when a recruiter contacts you, how does the conversation usually go and what I should be expecting or watching out for or saying. While being respectful of their time but at the same time watching for my own interest, if that makes sense. Advice and input from people who have been there would be deeply appreciated!

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