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Coffee Break: Princetown Loafer Mule

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What are your feelings on mules for the office, readers? (Or in life, in general?) Do you like the look with cropped pants or skirts, or do you prefer… well, backs on your shoes?

This Gucci loafer mule is one of the top rated in the designer shoe section at Nordstrom, and it's hard to go wrong if you like the look of mules and you're in the mood to spend $750 on them.

For my own $.02, I've used mules over the years as a “lives at the office” shoe to upgrade sandals or uncomfortable shoes. I don't think they're great for walking in, but maybe that's just me.

A more affordable version of the look are these nice ones from Linea Paolo, $65–$129.

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  1. Anon

    Mules for me personally never, because they fall off my feet. But I wouldn’t bat an eye at these in an office.

    • Anonymous

      Same. Mules are a nay everywhere because I have to clench my toes and shuffle my feet to keep them from flying off. High heels are much easier to walk in.

    • Anon

      I have always thought they look incredibly stupid. They also break my personal cardinal rule of office dressing: never wear shoes that prevent you from having an impromptu full-speed walk to lunch with your male coworkers.

      • Cat

        eh, I don’t worry about that. I’d have to run to my office to grab my bag, wallet, etc anyway, so would swap heels for flats at that point.

        I don’t think these are “stupid” by any means but I can’t keep this style on my feet… but based on colleagues obviously not everyone has this problem.

      • Anonymous

        I don’t wear shoes that I couldn’t run in if I had to. No mules, no heels. When you live in an area that keeps getting hit by disasters (and where stranger assault is on the rise), it’s important to be able to move.

        • anon

          this is so sad. where do you live? Have you considered moving to a place where you feel safer?

        • Anon

          Violent rime is up pretty much everywhere since the start of the pandemic. I don’t know specifically about stranger assault, but I think you’d be receiving this different and less snarkily if you asked yourself whether Anonymous might be Asian.

      • Go for it

        Not stupid per se, personally I feel they are not that attractive plus clenching to keep them on!!
        Oh~ And the clomp clomp sound they make when my colleague walks in them (on a rug!!) gives me a twitch. Same with flip flops. Hard nope.

    • Anonymous

      I love mules for the office. Not as causal as sandals (I live in Texas and nice sandals are acceptable office wear) but more comfortable than regular shoes for me. I got an excellent dupe for these on Amazon and went all in on different colors during the pandemic.

    • anne-on

      I wouldn’t look askance at them but I have NEVER been able to keep them on my feet. Though maybe this time around I’d have better luck than when the uber pointy toed mules were in style in the early aughts.

    • LaurenB

      Not inappropriate, just terribly uncomfortable. Don’t enjoy having to clench my toes to keep them on. The only thing worse are those shoes that look like you stepped on the back of your heel (like you do when you have a heel blister and you are desperate for relief).

    • anon

      I have these (in multiple colors, don’t judge) and swear by them as office wear when I get a new pair of heels that absolutely rip a blister in my heel. I will say that the Gucci ones go pretty far down your foot – ending somewhere between your arch and your heel, and I’ve never had a problem running around in them.

    • DC Attorney

      I love my Princetons! I don’t wear them with business attire but wear them all the time on business casual days in the fall. I find them no harder to keep on my feet than pumps and can certainly keep up with my male co-workers when walking to lunch in them. My biggest complaint is I can’t wear them in the dead of winter because my feet would get cold.

    • Anon

      I also can’t keep anything like this on my feet.

      Sling-backs are also effectively mules on me because the strap will never stay up (I think the backs of my feet are too straight.)

      I don’t know that I always need to be able to run in my shoes as others have suggested, but I also don’t need shoes that greatly increase my likelihood of face-planting on the sidewalk, which I have totally done in front of my coworkers and would not like to do again.

  2. anon

    I had these when I first graduated from college in 2003. I could never keep them on my feet, so I’ll pass them by this time around.

      • editrix

        My Gucci loafers (full shoes, lug soles) are ancient. I would happily drop $800 on a new pair if they ever make them again, because mine are absolutely the best loafers ever. But I won’t pay that for shouder-season shoes.

    • anne-on

      Ha, mine were also circa 2003 and thought I looked SO professional but I could barely keep them on my feet…

  3. Cat

    These have been “back” for a long time – enough to spur their own micro-trend of the fur-lined version a few years ago – NBD for my office.

    However, I cannot keep totally flat mules on my feet so pass on them personally.

  4. Senior Attorney

    Threadjack: I have been following a Time Capsule Houses group on Facebook, which is super fun. But… some of these people are of the opinion that it is NEVER okay to touch any original features of a house. And honestly, I just can’t agree. I do think that it’s a shame to make everything look like an episode of Fixer Upper, but I will admit to having just torn out a beautiful but not-really-functional ca. 1954 pink tile bathroom and replacing it with something more functional and more current. I feel like houses generally need to be kept up to date both aesthetically and functionally, hopefully with updates that are sensitive to the original style of the house.

    What say you all? Update or preserve? Team Time Capsule, Team Fixer Upper, or somewhere in the middle?

    • Sloan Sabbith

      Somewhere in the middle. Making all of the houses look like basic HGTV remodels removes a lot of character and I don’t think it makes sense to make a house built in 1920 look like it was just built in 2021. But at the same time, replacing worn out or no longer functional stuff makes a lot of sense to me- or even stuff that looks dated as opposed to classic. I was looking at an apartment listing a couple days ago that had “original 1940s cabinetry in the kitchen!” but the cabinets doors no longer closed all the way and they were very, very worn. In that case, it kind of kills any character to have these god-awful chipped white cabinets as opposed to new/newer cabinets that match the style of the apartment but, you know, also function.

      My parents replaced their front door a couple years ago and found a door that was removed from a house built the same time ours was. Unfortunately, it didn’t quite fit perfectly and there was not really a seal on the door. Also, the latch barely worked. My mom replaced it recently with a door that matches the mid-century look of the house but is a new door with fancy features like, you know, not swinging open if you forget to lock it.

    • Anonymous

      Original = lead-based paint, open flame propane heaters, etc. So it depends. Remediating lead-based paint is a PITA.

      • BeenThatGuy

        Remediating lead-based paint is right up there with remediating asbestos flooring. I just finished remediating asbestos flooring in my basement last week and I’m still shook from the whole process. It’s the most invasive thing I’ve ever had to do in any home I’m owned.

    • Anon

      i’m with you. i’m turned off from new construction, but that doesn’t mean i want every room in an old house to look like and function like the year it was built

    • Anonymous

      My house has a coal chute. Not sure where I’d source coal from now, so I’m glad we have gas for heat.

      • BeenThatGuy

        I have a coal chute too! Actually a coal room/closet. It creeps me out frankly so that door stays locked! But the milk door is one of my favorite quirks of having an old home.

    • Anon

      Respecting your architecture doesn’t mean don’t replace anything ever.
      That said, I see a lot more bad than good, and you can have an on-trend look that’s less functional than what was there in the first place. It’s really common in real estate listings in my city.

      • Senior Attorney

        OMG here, too.

        Honestly I have concluded that most houses end up being pretty awful, even if they don’t start out that way. Good updating requires both taste and skill and a lot of people have neither!

        • Anon

          And an willingness/ability to spend money on quality design and construction. A simply finished, small place built well and with skill outshines any blingy on-trend remuddle.

      • Anon

        Yes! When I was looking for my house in 2003, I saw so many (SO MANY) absolutely terrible renovations/add-ons. Tuscan was all the rage then, and these were largely craftsman bungalows from the 1920s… so sad, honestly,

        To be clear, I don’t live in Tuscany. I live in the Bay Area.

    • Anonymous

      Preserve for the most part, but update what needs to be updated for safety or functionality (e.g., asbestos tile, cracked window casings). I’m not of the mindset that homes “should” be updated for the sake of style because it’s pretty wasteful and also? So many new builds are just. plain.ugly.

      Anyway, we have furniture in my family that’s been in constant use since the 1750s (a highboy dresser, a dining table, a rocking chair, and a few other items) and it has endured to a degree that modern furniture just won’t. It looks fabulous in the Georgian colonial home where it currently resides. It’s all about finding the pieces and style that looks classic and that suits the needs of families over time, for both the house and the furnishings.

    • Anonymous

      I’m a restorationist. So I’m almost always on team ‘keep’ but I’m usually way more knowledgeable than your average person, even your average non-historic contractor on appropriate ways to update and preserve old homes. That said there are perfectly legitimate reasons to update certain things that don’t fit with a modern lifestyle. In my own home, there used to be a sink in the hallway for the servants, I had that capped and patched the hole. I consider myself to be a steward of my house, it’s way older than me and it will outlive me, so I think it’s important to respect the character. If someone renovated a historic kitchen with something classic, like black penny hex tile for example, I wouldn’t batt an eye but if someone used LVT I’d side eye so hard.

      • Anonymous

        I bought my house when it was 80+ years old and had already had a lot of stuff done to it that was probably reasonable to the prior owners at the time. Tile floor over tile floor. 1970s addition that had settled. Windows that didn’t open. Windows that didn’t shut. Plenty of cracks for mice to get in. Bathrooms built when a window for ventilation was all that the building code required. Ugh. It was Frankenhouse. I probably should have knocked it down, but 4 rooms in it were fine. OTOH, someone put vinyl over wood siding in bad shape (vs fixing the wood). An old house is a difficult love (I’d have loved it if they had kept the east-facing sleeping porch, but it sounds charming; perhaps before central air was a thing it wasn’t really though).

      • Senior Attorney

        Yes agree with this! My last house was built in 1938 and I renovated both bathrooms and was always tickled when people came out looking all puzzled and said, “love the tile — is it new or original?”

      • Anon

        Another old home owner and ditto this take. I immediately removed from consideration the general contractor who suggested installing sliding barn doors in the formal library of my early 1800s home. Nope, nuh uh, next.

        And OP, Mamie pink bathrooms have lots of rabid fans, so don’t feel too bad. If it were in good condition and a hall/kids bath, I’d probably keep it, but I don’t think I could deal with the color and the probably-less-than-spacious layout for a master in 2021. My mom endured a floor-to-ceiling blue bath in my childhood home, and mine was avocado – I’m sure the next owner got rid of them just as soon as they had the money to.

        • Anon

          Thank you for not installing barn doors in your formal library, and thank you for not hiring that contractor!

    • Anon

      I owned an older house previously and the idea that you just “don’t touch the original features” isn’t realistic or practical. We had to remodel a bathroom that hadn’t been updated since 1964 because the plumbing and electrical were in bad shape; the countertops and shower surround were stained, scratched and chipped; and the tile floor had been poorly installed over the subflooring and despite many repair attempts it was still uneven and tiles were cracked all over the place. I wasn’t going to pay to replace a bathroom and end up with the 1964 aesthetics, no matter how “charming” they seemed to some people – largely because they don’t make most of those materials any more (for good reason) and also because newer materials and fixtures are better than they were 60 years ago. I agree that it is kind of tragic to go into cool, funky old houses and completely strip them of all character and anything that’s older, but there’s a middle ground that I think most people are going to find just because we actually have to live in our houses.

      In other news, I am cranky about HGTV in general because A. they very much gloss over the extreme cost and considerable logistical difficulties of doing major remodels, especially when people are living in the homes and B. they do a lot of things on those shows that look good in pictures but are nightmares to live with in real life. One of my favorite examples of that is open shelving in the kitchen instead of cabinets. I live in a dusty part of the country and anything on open shelving would be visibly dusty within a month, but people act like it’s this amazingly practical aesthetic choice. HGTV in general just creates a completely unrealistic view of what home ownership – and especially home remodeling – is really like in the real world.

    • anne-on

      Somewhere in the middle. We have an old farmhouse, and guess who’s better at building houses – farmers or actual builders/millworkers? If you guessed NOT farmers you win. We try to preserve the character of the house but things like tilt in double paned storm windows are SO SO much better than the old single paned wavy glass windows that functioned about as well as saran wrap would in the MA winters for insulating.
      Also just because something is old doesn’t mean it’s well done – we have a built cabinet in the corner of my kitchen everyone exclaims over. Except it has drawers that won’t shut easily shut, aren’t on rails, the drawer boxes wobble, etc. I am ripping that stupid thing out as soon as we do our kitchen. That being said we are taking care to do the kitchen in a style that would suit the age of the house and I’m currently spending my evenings researching the style of cabinets that would match and whether or not tin ceilings are appropriate for the 1850s ;)

    • Notinlaw

      Just installed recessed lighting in my 1950’s living room today, so ‘nuf said. I also fall somewhere in between. We try to keep the scale of our furnishings appropriate to the house, so we have a lot of vintage furniture, but we also like some more modern touches.

    • Anon

      I am team preserve. I live in a 1909 arts and crafts home with old growth wainscoting in all the downstairs formal rooms. Anyone who wanted a “light and bright” interior would be tearing it down or painting it white in a second, but my feeling is that those people should not buy this house. They’re still building plenty of modern houses. My house should remain what it is. In fact, I’ve had to scrape layers of paint off of some of the wainscoting and it will never be as nice as the original unpainted stuff, and the paint will never fully come off, which is a shame.

      We have a butler’s staircase joining the main staircase at the landing. That’s another thing I won’t tear out.

      We’ve had to update things like plumbing and the kitchen for the sake of functionality, but we did it really carefully to maintain the house’s integrity, and had to find contractors who would be equally respectful.

      We are not the first people to own this house and we won’t be the last. I think we owe it a duty of care and consideration for the future. It is older than us both and will outlive us both.

      It’s like cutting down an ancient redwood because you found it too shady. Don’t live in the forest if you don’t like trees!

    • Anonymous

      I am team preserve, which is why I live in a new build!

      I KNOW that I do not have the heart to do anything but loving preserve, restore and keep an original feature that I value, or find amusing. The solution is to buy contemporary.

  5. Just Tired

    This is mostly a vent but PSA: If you have been dating the same man since college and you want to be married and have kids and you assume he is on the same page, then for heaven’s sake please actually talk to him about it and confirm he wants the same thing before you spend 12 years with him.

    I went to law school with the guy and he dated her all three years so we got friendly. She called me in hysterics last night because he moved out. I talked to Law School Friend this morning and he is genuinely perplexed that she is surprised. He understands sad; he is sad. But his literal words were “She must have known if I was going to marry her I would have done it by now.” The (claimed) catalyst for breaking up with her is that he wants to buy a house and thought this would be a good time to make the break! (She think there might be someone else and there might be but he would never admit that to me.)

    Nobody is right or wrong in this situation and I can understand both perspectives but he assumed that she would say something that she assumed did not need to be said. And now she is 33 and single for the first time since she was 21. (And about to take a huge hit to her standard of living.)

    • pugsnbourbon

      I kind of disagree with your assessment that “nobody is right or wrong.” Obviously we don’t have full context but Law School Friend sounds …. not great.

    • PLB

      I’m pushing back on this. While the woman should have questioned, etc., this isn’t all on her. Law School Friend also could have mentioned he didn’t want to be married or have kids with this woman. I’m so sick of men taking what they can get away with until they no longer want it or it no longer serves them.

    • Anonymous

      Law school friend is an *ss, he very intentionally strung her along. We need to stop excusing this behaviour.

      • Anon

        Yeah, it’s incredibly disingenuous to say that because she never explicitly asked if he wanted marriage and kids that it’s on her. He knew that’s a standard assumption to make and used that to keep himself in a comfortable relationship for over a decade. It’s totally BS for him to claim otherwise and he knows and she knows it and OP should know it too.

        • Anonymous

          To be fair, his inaction was OK after 2 years. At some point, the person not happy with the status quo is the one who needs to act, not the person who is OK with it. It is weird to me that it went on this long especially since friends were likely getting married and maybe having kids in this window. It never came up? Willful blindness / deafness?

          • Monday

            I bet it’s more likely that she would bring up marriage and kids and he would give vague responses that were just assuring enough for her to keep waiting. People post here all the time about their boyfriends saying “some day” for years.

          • Anonymous

            I feel like the clock starts ticking at the first convo and then you need a timeline to cut him loose. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

          • Monday

            I agree intellectually. But knowingly exploiting someone else’s naivete or lack of resolve is still wrong. She may have been foolish, but he was cruel.

      • Monday

        I was about to say this and saw 7 people already had. Good. I hope you ditch this friend, then call his ex to commiserate about how awful he is.

        One more thing: it’s incredibly arrogant and chauvinist to say “if I was going to marry her I would have done it by now.”

      • Anon

        Assuming they lived together when he was in law school and shared expenses, sounds like he used her to prop up his standard of living and then dumped her once he was in the clear financially.

        • Just Tired

          Quite decidedly not. She was also a full time student and they did not live together during that time period. And he paid off her students loans one he started working and has been paying essentially 100% of their living expenses since then. In fact, she is living in an apartment that he has said he would continue to pay for though the end of the year. Whatever you can accuse him of, taking advantage of her financially is not one of them.

          • PLB

            So he was taking care of her financially LIKE A HUSBAND the entire time. This guy. SMH.

          • anon

            Yeah this feels worse? Like why would she assume that he wasn’t going to be with her long term if he is actions suggested otherwise.

          • Senior Attorney

            Oof! So… she was a SAH girlfriend? How is her income so much less than his? This new info doesn’t make him look any better IMO.

          • Anon

            I mean yeah he didn’t take financial advantage of her but gee I wonder where she got the idea that he was planning to marry her…

          • anon

            So it sounds like he cultivated a situation where, in fact, she was financially dependent on him. Which would explain why she was probably hesitant to bring up marriage or anything that might rock the boat. Sorry but this makes it so much worse to me. Now he wants to buy a house so he’s out — what even?! Sorry but he sounds like a truly terrible person.

          • Just Tired

            Wow – you people make some pretty amazing conclusions. She has a master’s degree and a full time job. But he is a Big Law attorney making mid six figures and she teaches elementary school (special education). So her job is much more important but the world being what it is he makes much more money.

            And decidedly not his secret GF. That would be icky on many levels.

    • anon

      Sounds like there were two bullets and your friend dodged one: She isn’t going to end up married to that d*ck.
      I’m sorry she’ll have to deal with the aftermath of the first bullet. I hope she’ll be able to recover and live her best life without this deadweight in her life.

    • Cat

      If this were Reddit, um, your friend is the a$$hole.

      It would have served Ex’s interests to initiate a conversation about it but… this is not an “equal fault” situation.

    • anon

      I agree with others that your friend seems like a jerk but I agree with the PSA. I’m genuinely curious how this topic never came up in 12 years…like that’s not great on either of them. That said, he was clearly exploiting the situation and stringing her along. Both parties in a relationship should be up front about what they want and also confirm with their partners that they are on the same page. But your friend is a jerk.

      • anon

        Yeah. I know you’re not supposed to give romantic partners ultimatums, but I eventually did because I’d been with my then-boyfriend for 6 years, lived with him for 3, and figured he had enough information to make a decision. If he didn’t want to marry me, I wanted time to grieve, date, and get married and have kids with someone else. I wanted to get married much more than I wanted to break up, but I wanted to break up much more than I wanted to stay in limbo for another 5-10 years.

        • Senior Attorney

          I feel like when a man does that it’s not called an ultimatum, it’s called a proposal. And I am for it no matter who does it!

        • Brunette Elle Woods

          Yep, I was in a similar situation. Dated a man from 21-27. He couldn’t commit. I gave him an ultimatum once I had to decide where I was taking the bar. He lived in a different state. He didn’t make my deadline to propose. I gave him two more months until I found out I passed the bar where I lived but not where he lived and I was done. She’s responsible for her own life. He’s definitely a jerk but she’s not some poor little victim if you weren’t engaged after a decade and that’s what she wanted. I took control over my life and my future and made a decision based off of what my ex presented. I don’t know why either of them stayed together so long without taking the next step.

      • Anonymous

        They must be very conflict avoidant. It is hard to imagine 12 years of this when they were probably going to a wedding each weekend.

        • anon

          Right?! 12 years is a long time and lots of opportunities for this to organically come up. I can’t help think that one or both of them knew/suspected it wasn’t heading for marriage and kids and was too scared to say it out loud.

    • Cc

      I mean he is wrong in this situation. It seems like not only does he not want to marry her, he doesn’t want to be with her long term. This is honestly like a psychopath move to me? He dated her for 12 years before breaking up with her because he wants to buy a house??? I’m sure there is more nuance but I actually don’t think I could stay friends with him

    • Anonymous

      It isn’t his clock that is ticking. If you want to get married and have kids, you owe it to yourself to have the hard convo and get action or take action. No one will care for you better than you care for yourself. We are passive at our peril; guys can always change their mind and have a family and we can’t.

      • Anon

        Agree 100% with this. It is self-care and self-advocacy to go into relationships with expectations of how long you’re willing to wait for someone to decide they want to make a commitment. If it’s 2 years, 4 years, 10 years, whatever, that’s fine. But people should know what their internal deadline is, communicate that, and be prepared to hold the line if their partner keeps dithering and dissembling and making excuses.

        • Anonymous

          I think you need to know your internal deadline, but I would not communicate it to the other party because it will come off as an ultimatum. Just tell them you are interested in marriage and leave it at that. If the other party is at the same level of maturity and feels the same way as you, they will want to get married at around the same time as you do. If not, just cut them loose. Someone who doesn’t really want to marry you will make a lousy spouse. You are better off on your own.

          Signed, married 20 years but I was ready to get married 6 months before he was and would totally have walked within a year if he hadn’t gotten his priories straight

    • E

      I am in a similar situation but I set one of my close female friends up with one of my close male friends 4 years ago. They’re turning 35 this year and I know she wants to get married and have kids while I suspect he will not be that guy for her. My fear she’ll stay with him for another 4 years without ever asking where this is headed because she’s afraid of the answer and he’ll stay with her for another 4 years because he doesn’t want to hurt her and nothing is *wrong*. He’ll meet someone and propose almost immediately because its not that he doesn’t want marriage, he just doesn’t want it with her (even if he doesn’t recognize that fact right now) and she’ll be 39 and single. I brought it up, once, with her last fall when we were having a girls night and she agreed that night but never brought it up again. For me to bring it up again would threaten our friendship and I don’t think its my place to bring it up with him, even though he & I have been friends longer. I agree nobody is right or wrong in this situation.

    • Anonymous

      They both own the failure here. Hard to explain to the next GF that you had a 12 year relationship that you stayed in with the wrong person.

    • Just Tired

      I was trying not to write a novel so left out a lot of detail. But a lot of the takes here are just wrong. If she had talked to him about marriage/kids and he put her off or lied to her, I would have said so. She herself says that she just assumed this was permanent and never actually talked to him about it. They moved in together when he was 25 and she was 24 after dating for four years so she would not have to pay rent and just coasted along. Personally I think the issue is that he was always thinking of her as his college girlfriend with no expectation of permanence – which was made easier when he was working 12-16 hour days for years and she never brought it up.

      And if anyone benefited financially it was definitely her. My point about her finances is that she is accustomed to a standard of living that is not going to be sustainable on her salary. She has the apartment until the end of the year but would not be able to afford it on her own, and the vacations/clothes that she got used to are also not going to be something she can afford.

      He is not a bad guy. Oblivious but not bad.

      • Anonymous

        I don’t disagree. And at least he has the sense to break it off now. I know a few people who have carried on for longer and get stuck, especially after an accidental or “accidental” pregnancy. Never put your life on autopilot like this. Have the courage to go after the life you want, not the one easy to default to. For everything.

      • Anon

        Just stop, you’re not making him sound any better. “he was always thinking of her as his college girlfriend with no expectation of permanence” after 12 years that’s complete and utter bs.

        • Senior Attorney

          Yeah he’s still a bad guy and you’re still blaming the victim.

          Not saying she wasn’t dumb, but he’s the no-goodnik here.

          • Is it Friday yet?

            He kept her around and let her plan her life around him as long as it was comfortable, and then as soon as it became an inconvenience for him he ended it. Like, yeah, it was naive of her not to have the conversation and leave, but he’s a selfish a**.

          • Just Tired

            Ok – last post because I am honestly not that invested. But to be clear, she is my friend too and I am not blaming her. I am also not blaming him. She is a wonderful person. She made an assumption that was completely supported by the facts of their relationship. If anyone is at fault, it is absolutely him. My very first words to him were “I could absolutely smack you . . . what were you thinking.”

            But having said that, he was not stringing her along. He was 22 when they started dating and a senior in college (she was a junior). He was not thinking marriage and kids. The years passed and he did not give it a lot of thought. He was a man in his 20s and (now) early 30s. He was focused on his job and building his career.

            Everyone here is saying that essentially he must have known, but my point was just that he didn’t. He coasted along and was comfortable with her. She never said “I want to get married and have kids with you” and he assumed that meant she was doing the same. Maybe it is men vs. women. They were looking at this situation very, very differently. Since this group is mostly women, I am suggesting how she could have avoided this. Obviously he could have avoided it too, but in the end he is not the one who is being hurt.

      • Anon

        You sound hella judgmental about her, she would be better off without you- and him, because he sounds like an absolute d*ck. As like, a million others have said, he’s the a&&hole in this situation, not her.

        • anon

          +1 million. She may be naïve but he’s the a&&hole. I thought so when I first read the post and all further information has just solidified that he is awful

      • Anonymous

        He’s a bad guy but obviously you’re hoping to be his next gf and are ignoring that.

    • Anon

      He sounds like one of those lovely guys who decides to trade his same-age-as-him wife in for a younger model because he doesn’t see himself with someone her (his) age.

    • Scorecard

      Comments have been tallied, minus posts by the OP.

      Defending the man: 2
      Condemning the man: 31
      Neutral or unclear: 9

  6. RR

    I have a Sam Edelman dupe of these, and I wear them to the office without concern.

    • Senior Attorney

      Not so fun fact: I bought the Sam Edelman version and had to give them away because they wouldn’t stay on my feet! So no flat mules for me.

  7. BeenThatGuy

    Does anyone have a Christian Louboutin pocketbook? Specifically the Cabarock large tote. I’m in the the market and never considered a CL bag. I’m curious how they hold up. Link to follow.

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