Coffee Break: Lior Loafers

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1. I am a self described square as far as my appearance goes. Never dyed my hair, tattoos, or a piercing beyond one in each lobe. I just turned 30 and decided to get a second lobe piercing to do something low-stakes edgy. I got just one in my left ear (1 in the right, 2 on the left) and now I’m wondering if that’s out of style and I should get a second on my right. What’s trendy now? The “cool girls” had it on one side when I was a teenager. I currently work in fintech but have worked in more conservative roles before.

   1. One or two are both vanilla and no one will bat an eye. Truly just do what you like.

   2. It’s very much “anything goes” when it comes to ear piercings these days. I would say two lobe piercings on one side and nothing else is not super popular right now per se, but I don’t think anyone would see it as especially dated. Having an uneven number of piercings between the two ears is still very much a thing– I’m someone who’s fairly “into” piercings and have two lobe holes on both sides, plus 3 helix (cartilage) piercings and a daith on one side and a conch piercing on the other side.

      Enjoy rocking your new piercing!

   3. Agreed that anything goes. Specific current trends include “stacked lobes” and “constellation piercings” but what works all depends on your ear shape and size. They only work if you have the real estate, so to speak.

      I personally prefer to keep my lobes symmetrical and my cartilage non-symmetrical. I like being able to “go undercover” by taking out the upper pieces and leaving plain hoops in the lobes. I have two lobes on each ear, an upper helix and tragus on the left, and a snug on the right.

      1. +1 to symmetrical lobes and asymmetrical cartilages

         I have 2 lobes on each ear and 1 cartilage in each ear but at different locations. Looking to get 2 more cartilages on my one ear soon.

         I hate to say it, but hardly any ear piercing you could get would be considered”edgy” anymore. I have friends in super conservative, super corporate jobs with 7 piercings. I’m in a conservative government office (DC HQ where we wear suits) and ditto.

   4. I like the even look but it’s a personal preference. So I’d do two on each side.

   5. Thanks all. The piercer asked if I really wanted one or both and I jokingly said oh we will see how this one goes and come back for another so I do feel like it’s more common to have both. It’s inexpensive and not painful so I probably will go for #2 on the other side once this one heals more.
      So much more bling ?

2. DM is reporting that the wackjobs are busy in Russia: they want Alaska back, along with some place in California.

   Can they just announce that they won the war and slink away? No one has to know.

   1. what is DM? sorry i’m an Old.

      1. The Daily Mail…Brtish tabloid-ish that often provides more details than staid American papers will.

         1. LOL

   2. Fort Ross? Hahaha

      1. Is that the Sons of Anarchy part of California?

         1. Idk I never watched that but it’s the only formerly Russian place in CA I can think of (and a very cool place to visit)

         2. https://www.fortross.org/

            Sons of anarchy was apparently set in or around Stockton. Worlds apart (I know both of these places well)

            1. This looks awesome! I should go now in case Putin tries to grab it next.

   3. Can we give them a guest house at Palin’s?

      1. There are actual real people who live here in Alaska so maybe consider that when you joke about it being invaded. Also pretty sure Palin’s not one of them these days.

         1. No way! People actually live in Alaska?

3. Crafty question: do I need a Cricut? Is it just a fancy label maker? Does it do anything else? (also is it pronounced “cricket” or “cry-kut” because it’s the latter in my head.)

   1. I thought it was just for scrapbookers (which I am not) but if it could be just a bit of WHEEEEEE in my life, I might want one IF it did not wind up taking up its own room, which is the reason I can’t have a sewing machine even though I can actually use one.

   2. You could cut vinyl decals or whatever, but you can also just get someone on etsy to do it for you if the need arises.

   3. You only really need one if you’re cutting vinyl or scrapbooking. Do you do those things? It’s pronounced cricket.

   4. I have no idea how you use it, but in my head it’s pronounced cree-cut.

   5. You do not need one. My niece has one and it collects dust.

   6. I have no insight into if they’re actually useful or not, but it’s pronounced “cricket” based on several people I know who have them (even though my brain always pronounces “cry-kut” when I see it written).

   7. My ideal solution is a local friend who will do it cheaply for you if you supply materials, honestly.
      My friends who use theirs use it for custom shirts, glasswear, word art decor for holidays/etc., labeling of kids stuff, etc. If you don’t feel like you need those items several times a year, I’d pass and just go the etsy/friend route.

   8. I believe it’s pronounced “cricket, as its logo is a cute cricket. A Cricut is basically a printer with an exacto knife instead of ink. It will cut out any design on paper or vinyl, and the fancier one (the Maker) can cut fabric for sewing patterns, or balsa wood for decor. You can switch out the cutting blade with other accessories, so it can also emboss or “write” in fonts with markers or pens. It’s worth it if you like to personalize things (water bottles, stencils for etching on glassware, iron-on shirts, “laser-cut” paper crafts). I bought one when I got engaged, so I was able to personalize all the doo-dads that come with bridesmaid gifts, bachelorette party decor, wedding invitations and favors, etc. Basically anything personalized that you can get on Etsy, as someone noted. I can see it being helpful if you have young kids or are super into crafts.

   9. I can see the appeal of a Cricut. Especially for teachers. I recently purchased some vinyl off of A*azon for quick project I was able to just free hand with scissors. Based on the reviews on various vinyl links. It sounds like Cricut can come with a whole host of troubleshooting activities. Some of the reviews of the vinyl complained of vinyl bubbling up in the cricut, poorly packaged product, vinyl that doesn’t want to transfer, etc. If you’re interesting in doing that type of troubleshooting, go for it! For me personally, I’d rather find a good etsy shop and let someone else do that part. :)

4. At lunch with my boss, senior law partner, yesterday. Talking about our families, he mentions he had a bad weekend because he discovered his high school son’s grades have gone down. He said, “Can you believe it? On Sunday, he just sat there avoiding his assignment for 6-7 hours and didn’t start on his work! It would only take him a few minutes if he’d just do it! And when he finally did, it only took him a little while! We’re taking him to have him tested.” I suggested it might be anxiety about the work, even though he was capable of it, and Boss looked at me like I had three heads – “What do you mean, anxiety? He’s plenty smart!”

   All I could think was, “Wait, is Boss really unfamiliar with the ‘anxiety-avoidance-just do the thing’ spiral/trap that the rest of us have?! Has he never felt this? Wow, that must be like a dream!” This board has made me feel like this anxiety is so common that all of us lawyers are walking around with some degree of it…guess not ? In other good news: clearly Boss has never noticed MY work pattern ?‍♀️?

   1. Isn’t this just called being a teenager? Also, I am still a teenager.
      Also, also: we can do emojis here now?!?

      1. Yes! Emojis happened recently. OP, I am as astounded as you are.

         1. Wait, WHAT?? ?

            1. ?

      2. I’ve need doing them occasionally ? (I’m not OP) but really sparingly because they seem culturally off here.

         I also have a friend ? who is ? an emoji ? abuser ? so I don’t want to be like that ?

   2. I will say that the lifeguard in me rescues people who are in trouble or who are obviously struggling. And when it’s your own kid, it is hard to step in and just let them struggle. I have a kid who has anxiety and who struggles and who is on the autism spectrum (and all of the DSMs are defined in terms of the support needed, so I do feel like at some point, intervention is OK, but not as a first resort and not after having them try to do some self-advocacy and self-discovery). It is just hard (maybe doubly so for me, since I don’t seem to have anxiety). And for Boss, he likely can’t voice this to peers, b/c their kids are all perfect, as far as the Insta highlight reel and chit-chat goes.

      If I were a kid of a senior BigLaw partner, I’d probably be struggling to motivate. I feel that that is some weird life where you pretty much know you won’t be as successful as your parents. Like you are looking over the cliff and know you will be going over it.

      1. Ugh I hate the ‘supports need’ criteria because it is inherently s*xist. With gender roles as they are in society this means women are underdiagnosed because women aren’t allowed to have needs, they need to suck it up and care for others. Men get to have needs they can have mommy or wifey to support them.

      2. Yeah, kids of neurosurgeons and biglaw partners have two choices – fail and never reach the heights their parent(s) did or compete with them to do better. Both choices have their drawbacks and both could induce anxiety.

         1. Hello, as a biglaw partner, this is crazy talk. Being a biglaw partner is not like being in the heights of the world. It is well compensated but it’s also a ton of work and not very exciting. If you were the kid of an Oscar winner, I would understand this – but not the kid of a biglaw partner.

         2. Their is a third way: go to a small liberal arts college and major in a non-lucrative field like art history or something vanilla and that’s OK b/c they will help fund a house and you won’t have student loans.

            And a fourth: party through 5 or 6 years of school, never really graduate, teach English overseas and travel and world. Not really bad and some dudes do this into their 40s.

      3. That is such a bizarre thing to think. Again, a reminder that nobody outside Big Law thinks that Big Law is a bfd.

   3. Um, did you somehow have lunch with my mother 15 years ago?

      I know so many people for whom anxiety-induced procrastination is the reality that I find it hard to believe your boss hasn’t observed this in the wild before. Does he have other kids?

      1. He’s a dad. I feel like the Kodak dad thing is so real. His wife might say differently and also not be remotely surprised. Even if she works FT.

   4. Just so we’re clear, if you’re using this conversation as a jumping off point to muse about your own issues, it’s fine. But there could be a million things going on with this kid that aren’t exactly like your problem, and 100% not your business. I have kids this age and would not appreciate armchair diagnosing from a staff member based on an offhand comment.

      1. +1. My kids are younger, but I totally agree with this.

5. These loafers look like my grandfather’s bookie’s.
   I much prefer the Rothys ones on the moms page today.

   1. Hard Disagree.

   2. I don’t know, Grandpa’s Bookie might be a look to aspire to…

      1. Co-sign. Style goals 2022.

         1. Amen. Sign me up!

      2. Very Angie from YLF and her acolytes, who will let all their Team Loafer teammates know they wear them with a frock.

         1. No, they wear tennis shoes with their frocks.

   3. My immediate thought was Florida Man, in his 70’s or 80’s, worn with socks, has some money and doesn’t give a f—.

   4. Eww those Rothys are hideous.

      1. Co-sign I prefer the Rothys. Also, we are grown women. When someone says “I like X better than Y” – can we really not do better than Eww?

         1. Sure, Captain Tone Police.

         2. I don’t understand Rothy’s. Are they not made out of plastic? Is the foot sweat not unbearable?

            1. And they have the thinnest soles. Not for me!

   5. I like loafers, but not the 70s, so am skipping the current 70s inspired versions.

   6. Nothing comes in wide :(

6. I bought myself my first Hermes scarf a couple of weeks ago with part of my bonus. It is a beautiful navy blue with a music motif. I am looking for ways to incorporate it into my wardrobe more often. I’ve worn it as a belt with jeans, tied like a bandanna on my head, and tied around my neck, but I know there are a million ways to wear these scarves.

   What are your favorite ways to wear a square silk scarf?

   1. tie it on my purse :D

      1. This is what I do!

   2. I’m still learning this, but braided in to your hair if possible with your hair length/type?

   3. I have a harder time with square ones, but I’d google tying techniques. I’ve seen some amazing examples where you wonder how it is even the same scarf. I personally think if it’s a pretty design and big enough that just wearing over ones shoulders looks great.

   4. My favorite Hermes scarf look is still Grace Kelly’s using it as a sling for her broken arm. It’s such an inventive yet effortless look. But hopefully neither you nor I will need to use it that way.

   5. I like tying it around a scrunchie on my ponytail. Works well if you have reasonably long/thick hair. Or as a headband.

   6. Which one did you get?

      signed,
      musician who is envious

   7. Congrats to you. What a great purchase.
      Use it as a winter scarf with a coordinating coat. Tie it around your neck like a necklace. Use it as a wide belt on a dress. I wear mine around my neck in tons of different ways. Search for Mai Tai’s picture book to get ideas.

7. Re: this morning’s conversation about libido and going off the pill

   I remember when I went off the pill and my libido came roaring back. My husband was super happy about it. Even though I was a satisfied customer at home, I went to the usual 9am staff meeting and couldn’t handle how clean and good smelling all my freshly washed male coworkers were. I felt tingly in my ladyparts walking to the grocery store. I had to tell myself to calm down. That was the only time I understood what it must feel like to be a teenage boy going through puberty with uncontrollable er3ctions.

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