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Our daily TPS reports suggest one piece of work-appropriate attire in a range of prices. Brooks Brothers' semi-annual sale is on, which makes it a great time to stock up on basics like this simple Non-Iron Medium Stripe Tailored Fit Dress Shirt. They come in petites and regulars, as well as in styles like classic, fitted, and tailored. Most were $89, now $53. Non-Iron Medium Stripe Tailored Fit Dress Shirt Seen a great piece you'd like to recommend? Please e-mail editor@corporette.com with “TPS” in the subject line. (L-0)Sales of note for 9.16.24
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LPC
Oh I highly recommend these shirts. The tailored fit is just that, tailored through the body. For the broad-shouldered, not so broad-middled among us, it’s a very good look. They tuck in well, lie flat, look completely professional, and yet, there’s just a hint of, “Hello I am a girl in here.”
Southern Belle
I agree with LPC. There’s also quite a savings on dry cleaning with these shirts. They are machine washable and come out of the dryer looking perfectly pressed. I have had some for years and they are not pilled or worn at all. Highly recommended for those (like me) who hate to iron.
SF Bay Associate
I have several BB shirts. They are really, really great. The only thing is, they always come untucked from my suit pants, thanks to my long torso. Fine with skirts, which tend to sit higher, but I’ve spent too many depos retucking these shirts to wear them again with pants.
Anonymous
Me too. I always have this problem with BB shirts. Much better luck with Lands End in the tall sizes.
LawyerChk
Same problem here as well, but not enough to convince me not to wear them. These are by the far the best value for office-appropriate button downs I’ve seen (I own 7 or 8 of them, and some are years old and still look brand new).
Cat
I have 2 of these in my cart right now but am on the 2/4 border — should I err small? (Tailored fit)
Also, anyone know any free shipping codes? I’ll be at a BB in person this weekend, but they never seem to have a good selection of tailored fit in-store :(
Anonymous
If it helps you decide, I’m 5’5″, weigh 122 pounds, am between a B and C cup, and wear an 8 in the tailored fit shirts. The 6 was too tight across the bust.
Anonymous
Forgot to say, I LOVE LOVE LOVE BB no-iron shirts. I have three, and my husband has six.
anon23
That helps me – I’m 5’7, 135 lbs and a 32DD/34D. I’d probably need a 10!
N
Go with a 12 tailored, 10 for fitted, IMHO. That’s my experience at least!
Ann
Just to compare, I’m 5 5, 145, DD cup, and wear 10 in these shirts.
BT
This seems to conflict with the posters above, but I am 5’4″, 122 lbs, 34B and take a size 2.
Weird. I do have a fair amount of muscle though, which might be throwing things off…?
Cat
BT, we have very close measurements — I suspect the 2 will work for me if it works for you, so I’m glad I decided to order a few shirts in different sizes. I have one of the tailored shirts in a 2 from a few years ago (asked hubby to check for me when he ducked home to grab lunch) which fits nicely, but haven’t tried any on recently.
Anonymous
Thank goodness, I was wondering if I was a freak of nature as well. 5’9″, 145 lbs, 34D and I wear a 6.
KZ
I’m about the same size (though I’m barely a 34B rather than 34A…) and wear a 2 in the tailored and a 0 in the fitted. I would order a few different sizes if you’re not sure. I just went into the store one day and spent about 20 minutes trying to decide between two sizes and cuts. I’m still not entirely sure I got it perfect.
Leslie
I normally wear a 4 in almost everything, but buy BB non-iron shirts in a 6. I am 5’7″, 125 lbs, 34B. The 6 is a fairly conservative fit on me(roomy enough without too much extra fabric), but if I go down to the 4 I feel like it’s a bit tight on the bust for the office.
Kel
I would go with the 4 if you’re getting the tailored fit, or the 2 if you’re getting the “fitted” fit. I am similarly in between sizes, and that’s what works for me.
Cat
Thanks! I will try both fits and see what works best. Guessing “tailored” as I’m curvy, but that depends on if the shirt’s curves follow mine I suppose.
CM
own several, love them!…also purchase them for my sons, as sending 4T shirts to the dry cleaner seems frivilous but I hate ironing – these are a great compromise for my sharply dressed little men.
MH
I love BB shirts, they are the only buttondown shirts I actually really like (instead of just tolerate). And, since buttondowns are part of my “uniform”, I have a lot of them. I always go a size up to minimize the gap between the chest buttons. Fashion tape works great, but it still helps to go a size up.
Jennifer
These are great for travel too. Whenever I have to drive/fly for hours and arrive looking put together, I wear one of these – they really resist wrinkles.
Cat
PSA to also check the “clearance” section of the sale down at the bottom — other tailored fit shirts, plus lots of winter-weight items.
Anonymous
is sale online only, or in stores too?
Ex-3L Sarah
It’s in stores too, but the stores will have different things than they do online.
E
Any recommendations for a fit style if you a generous of bust?
lawDJ
I second this. Have never tried these shirts in person.
Kimbo
Unfortunately, I’ve never been able to wear Brooks Brothers shirts because I have this same problem. But, if someone else has has better luck, I’d love to hear what’s worked for you. I keep hearing so many amazing things about these shirts!
lawDJ
I put this below, but at 34DD/DDD I have had luck with these shirts:
http://www.tmlewin.co.uk/ProductList.aspx/WomenAllShirts/WomenswearShirtsFitted
They aren’t no-iron though, and the place is in London, but return shipping is free. The shirts are great thick quality and not too pricey, and they fit *perfectly* because of that seam right around the middle of the bust.
Anonymous
lawDJ – another large chested woman here and I love Alain Figaret!
myohmy
Since I realized after interning in retail that they use buckets of formaldehyde to make no-iron shirts no-iron, I get a little creeped out wearing them. I know they use tons of chemicals in clothes all the time, but just actually seeing them soak… well. I still to ironing.
L from Oz
Having a shirt washed and ironed costs under 2 euros a shirt in my current location, and since I don’t wear one every day, it’s a price I’ll gladly pay to a) avoid strange chemicals and b) avoid ironing!
Can’t wear Brooks Brothers shirts (they had a shop in my previous UK location), but find Thomas Pink TLR style excellent for the extremely busty.
R
Agree completely. Also, the “no iron” treatment makes the cloth stiff and uncomfortable, in my opinion.
Bonnie
Don’t they use chemicals to dry clean?
anon
hmm, I never wear button downs because of several issues: First, the boob gap. Second, the wrinkling problem. Third, I never know if I should tuck or not tuck. I might wander over the BB this lunchtime for a look and see what the sales staff recommends.
Anonymous
I just HATE button down shirts. HATE THEM. They’re not comfortable, and in my view, any article of clothing that requires “tape” of any kind is a definite no for me. I have one or two “in case of emergency” silk button-downs, and that’s it. I do have some very nice, tailored, sweaters (fine cable knit, short sleeve) from BB that look great with my suits and are perfectly acceptable replacements for the hated button downs.
Clerky
I really love them on other women, just not on me. I don’t look good tucking in blouses and I always felt that button down shirts must be tucked. I wish they looked good on me because I think it’s a really classic look. I’ll stick to other sorts of tops.
jcb
I don’t even love them on other women. Just hate them completely. So confining – I want to rip them off by halfway through the day.
Ex-3L Sarah
I haven’t encountered the boob gap problem with BBros button-downs at all. On me, it seems as though the front is cut specifically with more fabric, and so there’s absolutely no gap at all. I go with the fitted shirts, size 8, and I’m a size 34B if that makes any difference.
MelD
To be fair, 34B is a very common size that many shirts are made to accommodate. I am a 32D and anything that fits me in the chest is huge in the midsection. When I was a 32B I didn’t have nearly so many problems with button-downs looking ridiculous.
Anona
How did you go through from a 32B to a 32D?? Not being snarky, just curious. I’m a 32B myself.
MelD
You’d be surprised at how little it takes to go up a size when you are a 32. I gained a bit of weight but not all that much- probably 10lbs from when I was a fuller B cup.
Anona
Good to know, thanks. I’m a really small 32B, so getting to a 32D is just so unfathomable to me. But who knows!
lawDJ
This. DDs have even more trouble.
Kimbo
Yep, I’m a very full 34 DD (almost a 34 DDD) and I always have gaping with BB shirts. If I want to wear a button-down, it has to be one from a brand that is specifically targeted for larger busted women.
lawDJ
Kimbo – that is actually super helpful as we’re the same size and I’ve never tried BB shirts. I have had luck with these shirts I bought in London (in size 10 for my chest):
http://www.tmlewin.co.uk/ProductList.aspx/WomenAllShirts/WomenswearShirtsFitted
By luck I mean that they fit me *perfectly* and if you have a smaller waist than me, can easily be altered at the seams in front or the side to make them *exact.* You can order them online and they have free shipping, but they do wrinkle.
Kimbo
Thanks, lawDJ! They’re on sale, too! (And even the regular price isn’t too bad!)
Ex-3L Sarah
But I’ve always had trouble with gaps with other manufacturer’s button-downs. It seems like many shirts are actually made to accommodate a 34A, not a 34B. The only button-downs that don’t look ridiculous, aside from my Catholic-school high school uniform button-downs, are BBros.
em
I’m at 34A and that’s not my experience at all. 75% of things I try on are huge in the boobage.
Cat
I am a button-shirt lover for summer (lightweight for commute, but long sleeves keep hallway A/C at bay), but you just have to find the right brand for your body — J.Crew’s happen to work for me (and hopefully BB’s still do!), but for example, Theory shirts never fit right as their button placement is consistently terrible for my frame — either the buttons are pulling or the neckline gets too low. Might be the reverse for you.
I am generally a button-shirt “tucker” b/c I always think the tails look messy unless the shirt itself has a straight-across or almost straight-across hem and hits at hip height or higher.
Bonnie
That’s why I love BB’s button downs. For me the tailored fit avoids the gap without looking like a mumu.
EYG
Hello Corporettes,
I have a question being that I am just out of thehigh end of BB size range, has any one tried the Jones NY no wrinkle items? What about the washable wool? sizing? Fit? Quality?
Thanks for the Info.
E
AnneCatherine
Yeah I have worn both the BB ones, at the high end of the size range (14/16), and the Jones New York no-iron shirts. (I’ve never worn washable wool though.) I like them both. I found BB really strange, in that some were really fitted and some were super boxy but LOL I just realized I was probably buying two different styles without realizing it. Duh. The BB ones held up really, really well but after a few years, something odd happened to one like it got a tear (not on the seam, just in the fabric), not even in a particularly tight place on the shirt (e.g., not chest or anything, I think it was the arm or something). I wore them all the time though, like once a week for the blue, once a week for the white, and then I had a pink-striped one I wore like once a month maybe. I had some other colors/patterns but they were of the boxy variety.
The JNY: there is a cheaper Jones line that sells XS, S, M, L, XL. Avoid them. They are boxy. The dress-sized non-iron shirts (they come in dress sizes like 2, 4, 6— and on up to my size :-) ) are just much better fitted than the “S, M, L”-sized ones. The downside to them is that they come in fairly boring solid colors and maybe one stripe, unlike the BB ones which come in an array of interesting patterns. I found the JNY quality as good as, if not slightly better than, BB. The non-iron finish has not worn off, the shirts always look freshly pressed even after a day of wear, and they fit well. They are not at all see-through even in light blue and light pink. The ones I have are French cuff (turn-back) but with buttons, not with spaces for cufflinks, so if that weirds you out be forewarned. I also have sleeveless ones and I don’t really like them. The buttons on the front placket are bigger, and more widely spaced apart, and gape. The regular, long-sleeved button-down, however, does not gape at all and I am a DD who just found out I’m actually a DDD/E so . . . .
Anonymous
Speaking of office-appropriate attire–there is a woman in my office who is wearing EXTREMELY tight denim capris, a low-cut orange top, NO BRA, and electric blue flip flops. She is also wearing dark sunglasses for no other reason than that she thinks they look “cool.” Someone else commented on her “ensemble” and she thanked them and explained that her niece helps her “put together cool things for the office.”
It’s a government job in the South, but still!
Anonymous
Is she also wearing those silly colored rubber bands on her wrist – for no reason other than they look cool, and her niece is probably wearing them? HA!
Anonymous
Thankfully no–but the bra part is killing me. Two of the male attorneys just gaped as they walked past her–she is bending down to do some filing and is in serious danger of popping out of that tank top.
Isn’t there a rule about wearing bras when you hit 40? (or 30, for that matter)
Anon
I think there is definitely one about wearing a bra AT WORK, regardless of age (well, unless you are a lifeguard or a stripper).
Kimbo
Yeah, the no bra thing gets me, too! And, I agree with Anon #39, a bra should always be worn at work, regardless of age. (And I also agree with you, a bra should be worn everywhere after age 40 and, for most women, after age 30.)
MH
That’s cool ;) I wish there was a “like” button on here. I love hearing stories like this! It makes me laugh a little because most, if not all, of us on this blog could never get away with wearing anything like that at work. And that fact that she feels cool about her “ensemble” even if it is a little out of place for the office, makes me smile too. I never feel like my outfits are “cool”, they’re mostly boring, conservative… whatever you want to call it. Maybe I’ll get some silly rubber bands to make me feel cool…just kidding!
Anon
What’s a “like” button?
Louise
“Like” buttons are used on Facebook and some other social networking sites. They are a way to vote on a post or an article to show that you approve. Kind of a mini-poll.
lawDJ
on the subject of appropriate office attire … what do we think about cropped pants? I don’t mean capris, I mean the ones that basically just show your ankle. I’ve seen suits with these pants and pants like this in suiting material. I tend to think they look silly (and at 5’3″ I don’t need any more reasons to make myself look shorter) but maybe are appropriate office wear for a business casual office? What do you ladies think?
Kimbo
I think cropped pants are OK for the office (well, for my office) on the right woman and with with the proper shirt.
Anonymous
One of the attorneys wore a pair here on casual Friday and I thought they looked nice enough–but she must be 5’10 and had a pair of neutral wedges on to boot. I guess it works if you’re tall?
KW
It’s funny that you say that because I’m 6′ tall and think ankle pants on me look like I either outgrew my pants or can’t find any that are long enough. But when ever I see them on other women (who are usually shorter than I), I think they look adorable. I guess the grass is always greener…!
Louise
Other than shorts, which end above the knee, I hate short pants of any kind. Cropped, capris, clam-diggers, pedal-pushers, yuck. Even the casual ones. I know many women wear them casually because they aren’t comfortable showing their legs in shorts, but I abhor the look.
At the office? In suiting materials? Awful.
Just my opinion.
Eponine
I have a couple pairs of cropped pants that are basically tailored like cigarette pants from the 50s. They look great on my body and the fabric/style looks professional, so I wear them in my business casual workplace.
Kimbo
That’s the exact style I was thinking of when I said that these would be appropriate in my office. They look horrid on me, but I think they look great and very work-appropriate on the right woman. (Again, in a business casual office.)
AN
I wear cropped pants (they hit just above ankle) but mine are always in wool/blends etc , so same fabric al “normal” pants. I pair them with fitted button downs (untucked) or dressy blouses + heels.
That said, I work in a biz casual office.
L from Oz
I have a very nice pair of black 3/4 (or maybe 7/8?) trousers that look good on me despite my own lack of height, and I’m happy to wear them to work with nice black heeled sandals. However, my office is a) not in the US, b) fairly casual, and c) suffering from a brutal heat wave right now without any fans, air-conditioning, and in several horrible cases, windows that open. Anyone who isn’t pushing the boundaries of work appropriate right now is liable to get heatstroke.
Actually, that’s a good question – what to wear to work when it’s ridiculously hot. (I may be Australian, but I never worked anywhere there without AC or fans, so am struggling in 30+C at the moment.)
Eponine
Where are you?
When I lived in West Africa I pretty much exclusively wore ankle-length sarong-style skirts with cotton tops. I had the skirts tailor-made for me. A lot of African professional women get them made in a more tailored/form fitting style with a zipper but I liked the looser fit of a sarong/wrap but with a button and tie to hold it on. I wear them to work in the US sometimes too, with a cardigan and shell.
Eponine
Oh, and a silk split slip underneath will prevent your thighs from rubbing together while still allowing them to breathe – try wintersilks.com.
3L
Am I the only one that isn’t crazy about the BB shirts? I have both the fitted and tailored and in both there’s way too much material in the waist so that I can’t tuck (it bunches). But the buttons stop about 6 inches from the bottom, so it also looks really silly untucked with the bottom flapping open (yes, my skirt or pants are there, or else a cami if it comes up that high, but still…not a very classic look!).
I can’t go down a size to fit my waist because then it’s too small in the bust, across the back, and in the arm length. Am I just too finnicky with wanting a smooth tuck, or do other hourglass shapes have this problem too?
KZ
I have this problem to some extent, but I have it with basically every button down shirt I’ve ever bought. My plan is to go to a tailor at the end of the summer (because I had this plan that I was going to work out every afternoon after barbri and get really in shape… It hasn’t actually happened yet, but hey, still a month to the bar exam!) and see if they can perhaps bring them in a bit at the waist so they don’t look so bunched. I have no idea if it will help or if it would be cheap enough to be worth it, though. Anyone else have a good experience with getting button front shirts tailored?
L from Oz
I have a very short torso, and I’ve had good experiences getting excess fabric chopped off the bottom of shirts so they can be worn out and also so they tuck better – sometimes this is enough depending on how hippy you are, and it’s a really easy fix. It’s harder if you also want the shirt taken in though…
JM
I had my tailor take in and shorten my button front shirts. I think it makes all the difference and takes care of the bunching problem. It was a great investment.
I am very petite all over (and have a short torso).
em
I don’t remember if anyone has mentioned it, but if you register as a new member you get $10 your first purchase of $50 or more. For all those BB newbies like me.
em
Ooh, also, most of the striped ones are only $44.75!
Robert Bell
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