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Where are you wearing jumpsuits and rompers this year, ladies? To sleep in? (The one pictured is a PJ style from the popular Nordstrom Moonlight style.) To weddings or other events? To brunch? To work? The readers had an interesting discussion a few days ago, with a lot of people espousing their love for this jumpsuit, which looks… really casual to me, at least considering what I know of Old Navy fabrics. (This floaty romper from Everlane also looks great, but for a “going to the beach” kind of day.) And don't even get me started on worker-type jumpsuits! (I kind of just ordered a Rachel Comey one on sale, although I strongly suspect I'll send it back.)
The pictured one has a ton of nice reviews, and the gray version is on sale in lucky sizes; it's $37–$59 at Nordstrom. This Zella one also has a ton of great reviews but also looks like a binge-watching-and-errands kind of jumpsuit. (This Commando one also looks like a great loungey/PJ jumpsuit but it's $188.)
On the more formal side (certainly for weddings), these jumpsuits from Julia Jordan and Vince Camuto all have a ton of great reviews… This kind of hybrid style from Kay Unger caught my eye recently also, although I'm still trying to decide in my head who can wear it (everyone? Grande Dame types?) (This is a shade of my ongoing discussion with myself regarding pigtails — I fear I am too old by 15 years and perhaps too young by 10 years to wear them.)
(Psst: Not related to jumpsuits at all, but if you're on the hunt for a good denim jacket for fall, this uber popular style from Kut from the Kloth has lots of colors and sizes marked 50% off.)
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Sales of note for 10.10.24
- Nordstrom – Extra 25% off clearance (through 10/14); there's a lot from reader favorites like Boss, FARM Rio, Marc Fisher LTD, AGL, and more. Plus: free 2-day shipping, and cardmembers earn 6x points per dollar (3X the points on beauty).
- Ann Taylor – Extra 50% off sale (ends 10/12)
- Banana Republic Factory – Up to 50% off everything plus extra 25% off your $125+ purchase
- Boden – 10% off new styles with code; free shipping over $75
- Eloquii – Extra 50% off a lot of sale items, with code
- J.Crew – 40% off sitewide
- J.Crew Factory – 50% off entire site, plus extra 25% off orders $150+
- Lo & Sons – Fall Sale, up to 35% off
- M.M.LaFleur – Save 25% sitewide
- Neiman Marcus – Sale on sale, up to 85% off
- Spanx – Lots of workwear on sale, some up to 70% off
- Talbots – 50% off 2+ markdowns
- Target – Circle week, deals on 1000s of items
- White House Black Market – Buy one, get one – 50% off full price styles
Sales of note for 10.10.24
- Nordstrom – Extra 25% off clearance (through 10/14); there's a lot from reader favorites like Boss, FARM Rio, Marc Fisher LTD, AGL, and more. Plus: free 2-day shipping, and cardmembers earn 6x points per dollar (3X the points on beauty).
- Ann Taylor – Extra 50% off sale (ends 10/12)
- Banana Republic Factory – Up to 50% off everything plus extra 25% off your $125+ purchase
- Boden – 10% off new styles with code; free shipping over $75
- Eloquii – Extra 50% off a lot of sale items, with code
- J.Crew – 40% off sitewide
- J.Crew Factory – 50% off entire site, plus extra 25% off orders $150+
- Lo & Sons – Fall Sale, up to 35% off
- M.M.LaFleur – Save 25% sitewide
- Neiman Marcus – Sale on sale, up to 85% off
- Spanx – Lots of workwear on sale, some up to 70% off
- Talbots – 50% off 2+ markdowns
- Target – Circle week, deals on 1000s of items
- White House Black Market – Buy one, get one – 50% off full price styles
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Anon
Is a visible Chanel logo tacky? I have a Chanel classic flap that I haven’t gotten much use of due to the pandemic, and have been taking it out more with casual outfits in casual settings. I’m nervous that it’s super tacky.
Anon
I think it is fine. That is a classic bag, and the logo is part of it. If you also wore a t-shit with the logo plastered all over it, that would tacky!
Anonymous
+1. The no label people all buy the same readily recognizable Coyana bag, so I take their input with a grain of salt.
Anon
LOL definitely not.
Anonanonanon
I feel personally attacked by this comment! (It is very true for me, sorry, everyone.)
Anon
Nah, there’s a lot of gorgeous stuff out there. Lost Property of London, Von Holzhausen, Opelle…
Anon
+1
Go for it
Meh. I am on team no logo.
Anonymous
I am a no logo person, and on a scale of 1 to 10, where 10 is extremely tacky, and 1 not tacky at all, that classic classic Chanel bag is IMO a 1.5 in itself.
It’s not tacky in itself, but it’s possible to get into that territory if you want. Let’s say you add Chanel logo sunglasses, a Chanel logo belt and a Chanel logo scarf – then we’s be higher on the scale IMO. (I’d also think vinyl pants and a fluffy or leopard print sweater would be too much with this bag, but that’s just my style preference more than a general thing, I think lots of people would think chic instead.)
It’s a dressy bag, classic for a reason. If you have felt uncomfortable, can it just be that it was too dressy for your outfit or place? I think it looks lovely with jeans and tee, but might be odd with more work-out-y clothes?
Is this a crazy idea?
Thank you! Yeah, I don’t really dress up often, so there’s lots of sweatpants + chanel bag at the grocery store. Yes, it’s very extra to take the Chanel out for the grocery store but otherwise I’ll never use it!
Cat
Lol yes that is indeed very extra. Maybe you’d feel better if you threw on jeans to shop – then it looks more low key luxe?
I don’t think it’s tacky although it certainly advertises how much money you spent on a bag, so you have to be comfortable knowing some people will be judging the ever loving sh-t out of you for carrying it.
Audreycat
It’s not tacky at all from a style perspective. The bag is a gorgeous fashion classic but it also instantly screams “I buy $5,000 dollar Chanel handbags like it ain’t no thang” to everybody. Some people will think that’s tacky, some will be angry, and some will judge you as a rich, bougie Karen. Others still will be jealous and think you’re the bee’s knees! You bought the bag because you like it, so in my opinion you should own it, use it, and not worry about everyone else’s opinions. Don’t wear it in situations where you could get mugged or followed though— it makes you a target.
Anonymous
I would not worry about any of thus or about targeting. There are so many knockoffs in less affluent areas that a real bag doesn’t stand out.
Audreycat
I agree that nobody should fear judgement (especially if you can afford to rock your dream bag), and knock offs are most definitely out there too, but there are savvy thieves who know real bags. Preloved Chanel classic flaps can sell for more than their retail value, and they’re prime targets. You can never be too careful! In my area there are folks that hang out at affluent shopping areas, distract women and rob them in broad daylight.
PLB
Sorry but in no world is a Chanel classic flap ever tacky. Ever.
Also, whomever said something about “bougie Karen,” you’re conflating a couple of ideas. Carrying designer bag is not indicative of being a Karen at all.
The Original ...
I’ve been here since the beginning (to throw back to a prior question), along with some of you. I say that because I come with news and want you to know that I take our 13 years of friendship together to heart when I come here to announce:
I AM OFFICIALLY A DOCTOR. I have officially completed my PhD!
For those wanting details, feel free to email me: IAmAnEpicWarrior at the mail of g.
Vicky Austin
You ARE an Epic Warrior! Way to go!!!
No Face
Wow! That is such a big deal. Congrats.
Anon
CONGRATULATIONS!!!!! :) :) :) :) :)
Your new handle should be The Original, Ph.D. :)
Curious
+1!
anon
CONGRATULATIONS!!!
anonshmanon
That’s amazing!
MagicUnicorn
Such heart congrats!!!
MagicUnicorn
Hearty, but it works! :)
Anon
Woohoo!!!
Anon
Congratulations!! I have tears in my eyes. Epic Warrior for sure!
Anon.
Congratulations!!
Senior Attorney
DR. EPIC WARRIOR!! Woo hoo! Heartiest congratulations!!!
Anon
Congratulations!!!
Anonymous
Fabuluous! Congrats!
Anon
Woohoo!!
Anon
Congratulations! I hope you have fun celebration plans!
Ses
Kickass! I’ve been around since 2009 or thereabouts too, so from one old timer to another, congratulations. I love hearing it.
Go for it
Way to go Dr. you! clap clap clap
Anon
Way to go!!
Anon
Congrats The Original!!
amberwitch
Congratulations! That is so amazing. Be proud of yourself!
Anon
This is an amazing accomplishment. You deserve all the congratulations!!!!
Cat
Congrats!!
ArenKay
Congratulations Dr. Original!
Anonymous
Congratulations. As someone who finally finished a year ago despite many obstacles on the way I send you Deep congratulations and hugs, hugs all the way!!
Ekaterin Nile
Congratulations, Dr. The Original!
Anonymous
What are your favorite healthy versions of comfort food?
Mine are
– Mac Attack salad (hungry girl)
– egg roll bowl (volumetric cookbook)
– low carb Zuppa Toscano (gal on a mission)
We’re making wings tonight.
Anon
I don’t know that healthy and comfort food belong in the same sentence, but when I want something warm and full of veggies, I make clean out the fridge tomato vegetable soup.
Sauté onion, celery, carrot and then some minced garlic until soft. Add herbs now if you’re using dried, if fresh add at the end. I like thyme.
Add something tomatoey, whether that’s sauntering a tablespoon of tomato paste with the onions, or maybe a small can of crushed tomatoes or even tomato juice. Add some stock (I add about a cup but if you’re using canned, no one will arrest you for using the whole can). Then go to town adding veggies. If you have fresh stuff like zucchini and corn that is perfect. Most of the time I hit a bag of frozen mixed veggies and also add a drained can of beans – black beans and garbanzos are both good. Add more salt than you think, some black pepper and taste as you go. It’s done when the veggies are thawed, but I like them to get a little bit soft.
If you have a wilting bag of salad greens in your fridge, throw a big handful in the bottom of your soup bowl before you ladle in the soup.
Anon
I forgot to mention water! I add water until it’s as soupy as you like.
Anonymous
Ooh, I bet a handful of orzo or ditalini would go well in this too.
Anonymous
Some of my comfort food go-tos like pho, sushi, mezze and shakshuka are inherently fairly healthy, I guess? (as in, high in fiber, protein, nutrients, not super high in saturated fat). But my general approach is ‘add veggies’ rather than try to make low-fat or low-carb versions of things. Eg – nachos, but lots of fresh salsa, corn, beans, and avocado; bibimbap, but extra carrots and cucumbers, etc.
Cat
Craving a breakfast burrito? Try the Trader Joe’s egg white frittata wrapped in a low carb tortilla. Not perfect but still like… 800 calories less than the real thing.
Fun things w/ Mom?
I finally was able to take a few full days off to spend with my mom, late 60s and still in pretty good health. She typically keeps busy with knitting, sewing, gardening, talking with neighbors, etc. So I had been aware but did not fully realize how much the pandemic had really made her days long, boring, and lonely, especially as an extrovert.
During the pandemic, I have been mostly focusing our short Saturday afternoons together on getting tasks and errands done. My sister also has been fantastic about checking in during the week between her work schedule, but that has mostly consisted of shopping trips. Her children are off at college. I have another sibling with younger children who lives a few hours away, so we’ve only seen them a few times, more recently for outside meals.
Any ideas on “fun things” to do together on Saturdays that are not task-based? (We’re an immigrant/1st Gen family so I’ve been trying slowly to break her out of seeing things like going to Museums and paying the admission fees as “frivolous” or unnecessary!)
Anon
I think anything you do together just to be with each other would be welcome.
I wish I could go back in time to when my mom was able to talk again and spe d as much time as there is in day.
Enjoy your sweet mom!
Anon
I write this as someone in my late 60s, in good health like your mom. Maybe your mother has limitations that are not listed, but I things I enjoy doing with my 20s kids: a few hours’ hike (hills are great), a bike ride on a trail, paddling a kayak for a few hours, cooking and eating a good meal together (can be simple), taking a drive on a pretty day with a farm stand or fruit picking as a possible destination, helping me to go through a pile of clothes to assist with culling, gardening together, a online fitness class, choosing a book that we will both read and discussing it, playing with our dogs, trying a new tea. I guess I am saying that there are lots of things I like in my late 60s as there were in every stage in life, and those things are even sweeter if I can do them with one or more of my kids. Think about your mother’s lifetime interests but also introduce her to new things, as with a friend. Your presence and engagement is the best gift.
Anonymous
Botanical garden, historic house tour, low key birdwatching walk?
Cat
My mom is also in her late 60s and healthy, but I don’t think of the time I spend with her (usually a full day about 1x a month) as need to help her with tasks and errands (like… that’s not THAT old unless the person wants it to be…), so not sure if you’re leaving something out? I do sometimes serve as tech support for doing a new thing, but that’s only occasionally.
What we enjoy – going out to lunch or brunch somewhere new, shopping for fun, long walks or bike rides, going to the movies, going to exhibits at the art museum, reading/watching the same book or TV series or movie and comparing notes, etc.
Senior Attorney
And for those of you reading on the weekend, I present my favorite tweet possibly ever:
https://twitter.com/schrodingerskit/status/1431216249489526784/photo/1
Spoiler alert: it’s about gardening. Heh.
Anon
Hahahahhaa it is indeed about gardening! Get your minds out of the gutter, people!!
Curious
J’adore
Anon
I read the Vox article on elderly relative care-giving and the enormous impact it has on mostly women: lost wages, depleted savings, PTSD, health problems, etc. The current, sole solution to taking care of the elderly seems to be just throw money at it until they die. Yet people are living longer and longer, in more and more fragile states (or almost unconciousness) that cost more and more to maintain. I knew a lady who was pretty much a vegetable (but not hooked up to anything). Her “care” cost over $100,000 a year –for five or six years until she died. What was the benefit? She had no awareness of anything going on around her. Why can’t we let nature take its course and allow people to die sooner? How have we developed this mind-set of “prolong life at any and every cost”?
Anon
If she wasn’t hooked up to anything, how would “nature have taken its course”?
I feel like I have different criticisms. Why aren’t we funding serious research into improving people’s quality of life as they age instead of cash grabs based on outdated and discredited hypotheses (cf. Aduhelm)? Why don’t we have higher standards for health and aging in general?
I think one answer is that a lot of industries exist to basically farm the existence of other human people for cash (too many prisons, nursing homes, and even not-so-good daycares and schools seem to operate this way). There have been so many scandals; I think the incentives in our systems are twisted.
Anonymous
I dearly hope you are never in charge of an elderly relative, or get old yourself.
Anonymous
This is horrifying. When you say “let nature take its course” for people “not hooked up to machines” you are basically saying that we should abandon them to die of dehydration or starvation in a bed of their own filth. I agree that our system is broken, but that’s not the way to fix it.
Anon
Reading the OP more charitably: ALWAYS provide people with food, hydration, and sanitation. Do not, however, provide modern medical care to treat diseases when there is no benefit. You find a breast lump – don’t do chemo on someone in a permanent vegetative state.
anon
I am a caregiver, my mom just turned 86. It is very difficult and complex, in ways I couldn’t have thought of. I am lucky that my mom is aware but I see her health changing rapidly over the last few years.
I do recommend Atul Gawande’s Being Mortal, but expect that even as a health person who might be young enough, it will likely make you cry. He discusses quality of life versus duration.
Of note, the woman you reference wasn’t hooked up to anything, then 5 years was her journey.
For me – I love my dear mother deeply and will gladly have her for every breath she can take. I’m aware that very difficult decisions may lie ahead for me, and for others here. Please be kind in comments as there is nothing so humbling and difficult as one’s end journey (no matter what – or when – it might be).
Senior Attorney
This article is a few years old but really interesting: https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2014/10/why-i-hope-to-die-at-75/379329/
I think the author’s point about stopping all but palliative medical care at age 75 is a bit too radical for me (my cutoff would be at least 80 and I’d most certainly take antibiotics for, say, a UTI for a good while after that), it’s an intriguing premise. Although that’s easy for me to say now, at a healthy 62. My my used to say “put me in a home and throw away the key when I get old” when she was my age. She stopped saying that a decade or two later and was SO MAD when she and my dad had to move to assisted living.(Which, BTW, was the worst thing I’ve ever been through and I’ve been divorced twice.) People want to live even if we may not think those lives are worth living.
Senior Attorney
My my = my mom. D’oh.
Anon
Serious question: would you have applied that standard to Ruth Bader Ginsberg?
Senior Attorney
I’m not applying it to anybody.
Anon
Zeke Emanuel and Atul Gawande are both notorious spokespersons for healthcare austerity. I don’t trust either of them at all. (I’ll never forget when Gawande argued that more healthcare spending leads to worse outcomes without controlling for socioeconomic factors!) I also truly hate the way Emanuel wrote about his father (he said he was happy, but just LOOK at how far he’s fallen!) and about productivity. In a world where the chronically ill and the disabled already face obstacles to equal healthcare because of supposed lower “quality of life” (nobody asks us!), these thinkpieces are way more problematic than they may appear at first glance.
Anon
I’m not sure where you’re going with this but my friend’s mom died from dementia and was bedridden for several years at the end. She wasn’t hooked up to anything and took food and drink when it was offered to her. Are you suggesting they should have gassed her or something?
Anon
I just finished caregiving for vascular dementia and I agree with you. My dad’s last three years were hell, and I couldn’t do anything to end his misery. He was finally “allowed” to die of malnutrition this month when he lost the ability to swallow, and intubating him would have required a straightjacket to keep him from yanking it out.
I will not go out that way. If I start having dementia symptoms, I’m going to OD.
Anon
This is my mom. She watched her mom suffer with Alzheimer’s for almost 10 years (the total cost of the care was over $2M) and it was just so horrible for her. She swears she’s going to kill herself at the first sign of mental lapse. In contrast to some of the people above saying their elderly relatives wanted to live even with minimal QOL, my grandmother wanted to end her life (in the early years before she became totally incoherent) but assisted suicide is not legal in most of the United States and she wasn’t able to travel without assistance (and there are limits to how much other people can assist without exposing themselves to criminal liability). It’s actually not that easy to help your elderly relative die. She did have DNR orders of course but a lot of people stay alive for a long time despite that.
Anon
And also DNR orders get violated all the time! I didn’t realize this until we saw my grandmother go through it, but often times the parademics or ER nurses providing emergency care don’t know about the directives and will intubate or resuscitate even when they’re not supposed to. My grandmother was intubated twice by hospital staff even though it was against her clear medical directives, and once she was intubated the doctors were not ethically allowed to remove the tube until they thought she could safely breathe on her own again. It’s ethically much easier to withhold life-saving care than to remove it once it’s begun.