Open Thread: Charitable Giving

by C on 03/04/2010 · 137 comments

in After-Work Activities, Business Etiquette, CoWorker Problems, Money, Networking

We got this question from reader C, and it struck us as an interesting topic…

I have an article/poll idea: How much do Corporette readers donate to non-profits and which types of non-profits?  I tend to donate $25-100 to all of my alumni associations (high school, college, law school), and then I have an assortment of other causes I like to support.  I also support friends who are raising money for causes or running for office.  My biggest donations go to organizations of which I sit on the board of trustees.

I’m very curious about what percentage of their salaries Corporette readers donate to non-profits.  Also, do people donate strategically, e.g., for networking or business development purposes?  I tend to feel guilty about some big-ticket fashion purchases when I think of all the needy non-profits out there, so I know this is relevant to your subject matter!  Also, given how popular your posts on finances have been, I think this might be an interesting topic for your readers.
We suspect the answer will be deeply personal to each person, so we’re going to do this as an open thread.  For our $.02, research is what generally slows us down in terms of charitable donations.  We’ve heard that oftentimes charities take a lot (like 80-90%) for administrative costs, and the money doesn’t actually go to the cause — so the question is always, which charity?  Most of our charitable giving tends to happen to the same causes that we’ve donated to in the past, or if (after a funeral) a family suggests a donation in lieu of flowers; we’ve also joined a lot of associations/societies where some of the membership fee is treated as a charitable donation.  Readers, what are your thoughts?
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T March 4, 2010 at 5:09 pm

And The Moth! I give money to the Moth because I LOVE the stories and the idea.

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Res Ipsa March 5, 2010 at 11:33 am

They do! I really have to think about what value I’ve received from free Moth and This American Life podcasts!

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L March 4, 2010 at 5:13 pm

Hmm. We are very stingy compared to others here. I give $50 to my undergrad every year (earmarked for a group I was in while in school) and DH does the same. I also give $50 to the united way because I feel pressured (at work) and then $100 or $200/year to my choir (I am also on the board). We give a ton of clothes away every year – both to our nanny/her relatives and to the salvation army/goodwill – not sure how much though. We are planning to increase charitable contributions (mostly to environmental/conservation orgs) when we feel rich enough.

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sam March 4, 2010 at 5:33 pm

where on earth did you get the 80-90% figure from? untrue!

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Midori March 4, 2010 at 6:02 pm

I give about 10% of my salary to my church, and give here and there to charities and public interest stuff. NPR is high on my list. And yeah, I have 9 years left on my school loans.

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Anon March 4, 2010 at 6:13 pm

freerice.com

I have no idea how much “street cred” this organization has as far as charities go, but it is a fabulous way to eat up time when you’re on hold or in a boring conference call or something…

From the website: Here is how it works. When you play the game, sponsor banners appear on the bottom of your screen. The money generated by these banners is then used to buy the rice. So by playing, you generate the money that pays for the rice donated to hungry people.

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MelM March 4, 2010 at 6:50 pm

on % of giving, I guess it would help if we knew whether we are talking about gross income or take-home pay. I am in the 1-2% of gross pay status.

I do give to my undergrad and law schools (both private) – so that they can help a middle-class kid like I was attend a school that would otherwise be out of reach. I donate gifts to the various charities of friends who have had deaths in the family (~$50-100). I’ve started donating to a no-kill shelter when close friends have pets who die (~$20-25). I’m a partner whose firm automatically donates part of my compensation to United Way – sometimes I give extra to meet a certain giving level, but did not do that this year (times are tight). I do try to direct it to a specific group I’m familiar with. As for donating strategically, I will give to certain firm-sponsored programs or to assist another attorney raising money for a cause. I do participate in several races during the year and had not really been counting that money as a donation, but in some instances I can.

I save my biggest donation for a local after-school program whose board I used to chair. It is a cause near and dear to my heart. For those who don’t like to donate to “admin,” I would like to challenge that notion – there has to be some admin to run the organization. and as someone noted, most grants can only be used for specific programs. so individual donations are the absolute life-blood to keep some organizations, particularly smaller, grass-roots ones, going. I agree the admin should not be disproportionate and go to a fancy building or big salaries. But most non-profit staff are already sacrificing a lot to work there. I know my small program is almost always struggling to survive, and only because the director is so committed has she stuck around – sometimes without pay for long stretches. They have enough money for programs – but not enough for someone to administer and run them. Just food for thought!

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Delta Sierra March 4, 2010 at 7:06 pm

We give very little during the year. However, since we don’t have children, most of our estate will go to charity (either science education or animals) in our wills. Pretty sure there will still be plenty of money needed in those areas by the time we die.

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Delta Sierra March 5, 2010 at 7:56 pm

Should add, I’m a little underemployed this year (contracts thin on the ground just now) and have 4 separate charity gigs. Does me good to have some structure to my week, fall into depression otherwise.

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Dasha March 4, 2010 at 7:13 pm

This is a great topic. It’s great to see that people give so much!

I’m a student and unfortunately, my husband isn’t very charitably inclined. I give $10 a month to NPR, and assorted and sundry donations here and there. I also try to bake something for a bake sale or a buy a toy for a drive. And anything breast cancer related gets me too, because both of my grandmothers had it. When I graduate and make the big money in the government/public sector job, I hope donate a lot more.

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JD Chic March 4, 2010 at 7:30 pm

I give about $1500 a year in monetary donations, including tithes to my church and donations to local charities. In addition to this, my husband tithes and donates as well. I am aiming to give more and more each year. My goal is to get to a point where I am giving at least 10% of my income to our church which has a lot of missions – both local and international.

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North Shore March 5, 2010 at 12:00 am

Giving to charities is a great gift for those difficult teenagers in your life. I give my nieces gifts where they are “saving” a certain animal, the ocean, whatever, and the charity will send them a certificate and a small token. They love it, and don’t have to bother returning whatever uncool gift I might get them otherwise.

I get my kids involved in our charity choices. I let them each pick a charity for our annual campaign, and help them research ideas. It’s interesting to see their choices — organizations that buy books for children, helping the disabled, and environmental organizations are on the top of their lists.

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PJB March 5, 2010 at 2:48 am

I’m with the feds and make around $165K per year. I donate about 6% of my income to Physicians without Borders, our local homeless shelter, and a mid-East charity that donates wheelchairs to children.

I also give cash freely to homeless people, even those who appear to be alcoholics or drug users. My sister is a mentally-ill alcoholic mostly homeless person who always gives part of what I send her to other homeless. If she can, I can. She tells me she chews grass to clean her breath and that it is not fun to sleep on the sidewalks. I’ve dispensed with being judgmental about shaky-looking homeless folk.

On another note, I’m really shocked that so many people contribute to their churches. It seems to me churches pretty much use money to support themselves and people who think like they do. In a million years, I’d never contribute to my law school or undergraduate school, but the reasons offered by those who do are sensible. Churches? Nope.

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kif March 5, 2010 at 8:51 am

But, that’s exactly why I give to my church – because if the people that go there don’t support it, they wouldn’t exist. Rather, I should say that I think that’s why followers of Jesus are asked to do so in the Bible, because we know that no one else is giving churches money to operate; a church’s income comes from its members. Surely people NOT going to church aren’t going to be writing those checks… right? One other thing to keep in mind is that in the very nature of being a church, part -if not most- of the expenses that are being paid are supporting missionaries, running community services programs, etc… as well as supporting outside organizations. It’s not like the income is paying for the church staff to sit around and have spa weekends or something.

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anon March 5, 2010 at 9:12 am

My church supports a food bank, a program for homeless people so families will not be split up and have to go to different shelters, gives supplies to an economically disadvantaged public school, and strongly advocates for equal marriage rights regardless of sexual orientation, among many other causes. They do it all without regard to the religious orientation of the charity recipients and without making them listen to sermons. That’s why I go there and why I give. The fact that it is a place of peace and spiritual rejuvenation for me and a place to worship with others is also important, but I wouldn’t give as much if my church was not out there everyday helping the community. And not just “others who think like they do.” That’s pretty inflammatory.

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em March 5, 2010 at 9:48 am

When I was religious (Catholic) I did the accounting for the Catholic church near my undergrad. A lot does go for general operating expenses – electric, living stipends for the two priests (very low – vow of poverty and all that), supplies (wine, wafers, oils, incense, flowers) for mass. However a lot goes for missions and outreach around the relatively large city it was in, programs for the poor, etc. If you’re religious and keeping your church running and being able to have mass/service with everything that goes with it (for Catholics, mass isn’t mass without wine and wafers for communion) is important, then why shouldn’t you give to your church? If you’re not religious or have a problem with religion, on the other hand, of course it makes more sense to give to an organization that more directly addresses the poor, etc.

I might add that the church I worked at still wasn’t able to cover operating expenses (and wasn’t willing to substantially reduce their mission/anti-poverty work). Several months into the recession, they had to lay off my successor (a part-time student job), the receptionist, and the business manager (full-time with benefits). The business manager has cancer, hasn’t been able to get another job, and his COBRA coverage is about to run out. The church simply couldn’t afford to pay him and it couldn’t very well fire the priests.

My point is don’t make assumptions about how churches are run and what their operating priorities are. (And I am no longer Catholic and would definitely not be contributing to religion, but I still send a little to that church each month out of concern.)

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K March 5, 2010 at 10:48 am

What an absurd thing to say. My little church in my little city does so much good for those in and out of the church. As an example, last year we helped 189 families/individuals that would have fallen through the cracks with rent, security deposits, food, utility bills, hotel rooms for homeless people and other miscellaneous items. The church spent over $40,000 on this. In addition we support the local homeless shelter, run a “store” for new moms struggling to make ends meet, support Habitat for Humanity, and make regular donations to Catholic Relief Services.

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Res Ipsa March 5, 2010 at 12:17 pm

Most [Protestant] churches must have their budgets approved by the congregation. the congregation sees line by line where their money is being spent: paying health benefits & living wages to the janitor, keeping the lights on and other bills paid, supporting education and homeless outreach programs, etc., etc. I’d certainly be wary if there weren’t that level of transparency/accountability. Also, we have our books audited by an independent auditor yearly.

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LizM March 5, 2010 at 1:59 pm

Thank you everyone that responded to this. I don’t have anything to add, but think you captured my feelings.

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s-k-s March 5, 2010 at 2:24 pm

I’m not religious so I obviously don’t give to any churches, but can’t imagine criticizing others for doing so. If you go to the church, you have to pay for the building, staff, and all the rest somehow … I don’t think anyone expects their money not to be used for those purposes.

As long as the money isn’t going to the diamonds worn by the preacher’s wife, don’t really see how its an issue.

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RPCV March 5, 2010 at 3:27 am

What a wonderful topic, and so interesting to read everyone’s contributions! Just wanted to highlight a great site that can be a lot of fun to use.

Peace Corps Partnerships is a website that lists volunteer projects developed in conjunction with their communities. The projects are from countries all over the world and are in every different sector- everything from a maternity clinic in Ghana to a girls’ leadership camp in the Ukraine.

All money donated goes directly to the project, which is supervised by a volunteer who has been living and working in the community for two years. The project has to be co-sponsored by a community organization, which has to provide at least 25% of the funds. The projects are also vetted for viability by Peace Corps staff before being put on the website. As a former volunteer who saw countless development projects come and go (or in many cases the money come and no project follow), I think it’s pretty much the biggest bang for your buck out there on the international development front.

My extended family has started a Christmas tradition now of doing a grab bag where everyone picks a project, and we then each pick someone else’s name and donate $50 to their project. Everyone has so much fun picking something unique to their interests that it’s become a favorite tradition!

The website is: http://www.peacecorps.gov/index.cfm?shell=resources.donors.

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Anonymous March 5, 2010 at 8:58 am

We donated about 2.5% of our salary this year and our goal is to increase our giving to 5% in the next two years and hopefully to 10% once we’ve gotten our two children through college. The biggest chunk goes to our church, which is a small and financially strapped . The two next largest chunks are to The Pennsylvania Prison Society and Episcopal Community Services. I give a small amount both to college and law school to the scholarship fund as I benefited from scholarships as a student. We both are public interest lawyers and I am still paying off my student loans. We certainly could make more in private practice however our public interest salaries are more than twice the median income for a family of four in Pennsylvania. Thus we feel obligated to give back.

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HH March 5, 2010 at 10:12 am

We tithe to our church… plus smaller amounts to various other charities.

Of note… I worked in development at a Food Bank a few years ago… and left because I was quite concerned about their practice of re-selling donations to those charities that provide direct aid. At the Food Bank where i worked… all food that was donated was turned around and sold to the charities for 14 cents a pound. In my mind, I would prefer to give my food/financial donations directly to those giving the food away. I understand the charities need to get their food from somewhere but I do think this is something many people don’t realize about most of the food banks in America. Many that are affliated with America’s Second Harvest do re-sell their food to charities.

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ChickintheStix March 5, 2010 at 12:52 pm

I am inspired by so many of you! I’m off to look at the donations we make and to see if we can make them more structured and deliberate–and maybe more effective.

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Nevadamtnbear March 5, 2010 at 2:10 pm

WOW, I’m amazed at the levels of donations. I always thought I was on the low end of cash contributions, but this has really opened my eyes.

My husband and I tithe to our church and donate to other local non-profits. Our cash donations to our church and other organizations last year were in excess of $10,000. This is while we’re paying off my student loans (still over $70k left there) and paying of credit card debt.

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Brea Edwards March 5, 2010 at 2:51 pm

One way to increase your charitable giving is to give charity gift cards instead of gifts of ” stuff” when gift-giving is required. So often our family and friends have what they need or want (or have the resources to get what they really want). So a charity gift card can be very meaningul for some people. You get a tax-deductible receipt, and the recipient gets to choose the charity that gets the money. The cards are easily customized and look great; they’re a terrific alternative (or supplement) to a traditional material gift.
http://www.TisBest.org

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LizM March 5, 2010 at 6:14 pm

Just be suspicious of any gifts going to the Human Fund.

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Azure March 5, 2010 at 5:59 pm

Is there a way to give a charitable donation in someone else’s name and let the *recipient* take the tax break? If *I* take the tax break, it doesn’t really seem like a gift since it benefits me rather than the recipient.

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Brea Edwards March 5, 2010 at 6:31 pm

No, the deduction goes to the giver, who is actually making the donation. It’s not for everybody, but I can tell you that my brother thought it was the best birthday gift he’d received in years. He gave the donation to the Humane Society, and I never knew he had any interest in animals.

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Antof9 March 5, 2010 at 6:46 pm

We give 10% of our income to our church, too. I have never given to an alumni association, and don’t plan on starting. We also support a couple of missionary-type people with a small amount each month. Last, when someone I know is doing a Komen walk or something like that, I always give a minimum of $10. I used to give a minimum of $50, but that’s when we had a lot more disposable income.

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idmm March 6, 2010 at 1:49 am

Total gross salary ~$200K. Total yearly charity donation ~$12K. Split among 5 very personal charities – children’s health, cancer research, international poverty, NPR, hospice. Would love for any of the five to no longer need us. :)

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Lobbyist March 7, 2010 at 11:03 am

Here is a good piece on how to pick a charity to give to.

http://www.philanthropyaction.com/nc/the_worst_and_best_way_to_pick_a_charity_this_year.

I have worked for several non profits and while none of them were wasteful in any way, I do hate it when donors don’t want any money to go to overhead. How else are you going to pay for the lights and internet connection? High percentages are crazy but also its very hard to get to super low percentages.

That said, I must recommend one great micro credit organization I know something about, http://www.adelantefoundation.org.

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D March 8, 2010 at 2:59 pm

At charity luncheons, our firm recommends giving the equivalent of one of your billable hours.

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anonymous March 23, 2011 at 2:06 pm

Wow, this is a pretty sad commentary on what people consider “a lot.” My husband and I tithe (10%). Yes, we make a good income, so that means over $30k per year. And no, we’re not Baptist; just plain old Methodists! We’re also giving above our tithe for our building campaign. Yes, I’d rather spend the money on a new car, rather than our beater work about $3k (max!) or clothes for our 3 kids, or clothes for me! Or vacation… but I find when I give, it makes my heart light and happy and pays me back in spades.

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