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Suit of the Week: Another Tomorrow

navy suit with seamed waist; model is standing as if she's shell shocked from the loss of women's rights

For busy working women, the suit is often the easiest outfit to throw on in the morning. In general, this feature is not about interview suits for women, which should be as classic and basic as you get — instead, this feature is about the slightly different suit that is fashionable, yet professional. Also: we just updated our big roundup for the best women's suits of 2024!

I was excited to see Another Tomorrow on Nordstrom's new list of designers. The brand offers really sleek basics; we've featured them before in our roundups of smaller workwear brands and eco-friendly work clothes.

The brand stresses their attempts at sustainability, noting:

We have visited our wool-supplying farms to ensure that their sheep are raised and sheared in exemplary conditions, free of the cruel practice of mulesing. The fibers for this garment come from a farm in New South Wales. The fabric is processed and finished in an Italian facility that runs on 100% renewable energy. The addition of elastane helps to improve strength and performance, helping to extend the garment's lifetime.

Nice. The seamed waist blazer comes in several different colors and patterns at the brand's website; Nordstrom only has the navy. The blazer is $1490-$1600, and the pants are $690; you can also find the pieces at Neiman Marcus and Saks.

Sales of note for 12.5

228 Comments

  1. Thoughts on waking pads at work? I’m in tech, so a little less buttoned up than many of the professionals on this board and I know that any professionalism got will be minimal and I could take it, mostly just looking to see if it would benefit me to get one. Trying to find low-effort ways to incorporate more movement in my day.

    1. They make a lot of noise, so you might get pushback from neighbours, whether WFH or in office. I would have loved one, but can’t make the noise work, not even for myself.

    2. I honestly cannot use one and concentrate on working at the same time. I’d take a quick walk instead.

    3. I honestly cannot use one and concentrate on working at the same time. I’d take a quick walk instead.

        1. Arrgh – I believe we’ve turned off all caching. Weirdly enough on the backend I can see two different email addresses but the same content of the comment; what did you say? I’m curious if it’s in commenting system somewhere else.

          1. I don’t remember verbatim, but something like I use mine for taking calls where I don’t need to take notes or look closely at the screen.

    4. I have one for my wfh setup. I’ve used it during regular team meetings, I’ve just told everyone to tell me if it is distracting (I’m always on mute unless talking). I also use it when I’m in meetings I mostly just need to listen in. I can use it while checking email and things like that, but can’t for deep work. Mine was less than $200.

  2. What’s your coping mechanism today? Healthy or unhealthy, no judgement here.

    I’ve given myself permission to not be super production today, and I’m considering eating candy for dinner.

    1. Junk food and already had plans with friends tonight. There will be lots of whiskey, tissues, and no concern for price.

    2. Well, it’s my 40th birthday today and trying to just shut it out and stay pragmatic about how to move forward, starting with a rare week night dinner out with my family tonight!

      1. Oh man what crappy timing. Happy birthday to you! Hope the family time brings you joy.

    3. My 7 year old had a bad friend day, and is pretty gutted by the election (despite only figuring out he’s an American citizen this week), so I picked up bacon and a baguette and we had french toast for dinner.

    4. i checked all our bank accounts to remind myself that we’re still rich and white and this probably won’t affect us. sobbed a bit, then slapped myself.

        1. me too. I needed that.

          I sent texts to my young female relatives. None of them responded. Honestly – that made me even more depressed for our future.

    5. I have to work but I’m distracted. I think I have talked my husband into getting takeout indulgent food. We usually eat pretty healthy but not today, baby.

    7. A few things:
      *Crying at will, whenever I feel it coming on.
      *DH is at home today, and hugging him as much as possible. Feeling thankful to have a man who is as horrified by this result as I am.

    8. Watching friends, eating Burger King impossible whopper and chocolate chips directly from the bag.

    9. Thankfully it is a WFH day. I am doing the bare minimum. I attempted to take a nap, but that wasn’t working. I’m hungry but can’t decide what to eat. So far it has been crackers.

    10. I’ve been giving myself the pep talk that I gave my kids and it’s mostly working on me. Here’s the pep talk:

      This is awful in ways we can anticipate and ways we’re not anticipating right now. Lots of countries have gone through terrible, authoritarian leadership and have made it out. Not all, but many. What is always needed in this situation is to help the vulnerable and to carry on in the work for better leadership. I have lots of things going for me. It’s within my power to help the vulnerable and carry on in the work for better leadership, starting with a commitment to helping elect Democrats in the midterms. And so I will do my small part and hope that my fellow Americans will join me.

      1. I’m also giving myself the same pep talk I gave my daughter, which is that this is horribly disappointing and we need to continue standing up for those less privileged than us, but as upper middle class white people in a blue city, our lives are not meaningfully going to change.

        Honestly, I’m most gutted for Ukraine, Taiwan and Gaza, which is why I don’t understand the inclination of some people to leave the country. Moving abroad doesn’t solve any of that.

    12. I’m giving myself a lot of grace today. I have packed up cardboard and taken for recycling, done a change out on the litter box, roasted butternut squash & pumpkin for soup and started a load of laundry. I’m trying hard not to sit and doomscroll.

      A local brewery is doing half-off all pints open to close today. We may go down to have a drink when my husband finishes with work.

    13. No work today. I was outside with my kid for 2 hours. I am now drinking one beer, just one, at 3:30 PM. I REALLY want a cigarette, but it has been 10+ years since I’ve had one and, unlike the results of this election, I won’t go back!!

    14. Bought a bunch of Christmas treats and decorations. Yesterday was the first anniversary of my husband’s death so already a bad day.

    16. I wisely saved one of the pumpkin cinnamon rolls I made a few weeks ago, so I ate that for a very late breakfast at like 2 pm. Otherwise, “working” from home, but not really doing any work. I took a long nap since I stayed up late. Now trying to read my book but it’s depressing (nothing to do with politics, but it’s a dark/sad story about a man’s descent into Alzheimer’s disease) so I stopped that and just started watching Friends. That and Veep are my comfort shows and Veep is out now for obvious reasons.

    17. I was burying myself in work until my kid texted me and told me that he was hiding in a bathroom at school because kids were being awful to him. One girl said they couldn’t be friends anymore because of his views on abortion. A pack of boys swarmed him and called him a basic Kamala B. He’s LGBTQ, so that comment seems particularly fraught Needless to say, I made a call to the school and am now completely derailed.

      Tonight we’re watching funny TV and eating junk. IDGAF.

      3. I’m so so sorry. I think Trump brings out the worst in people, he normalizes bullying and discrimination.

    19. Going to a friend’s new house for dinner and there will be alcohol and cigars for her and Hubby. I bought cigarettes for me. Heh.

      2. The image I have of Senior Attorney chainsmoking post Election stress somehow is entertaining and comforting. Rock on and lean into the comforting vice of choice!

        I remained in PJs allllllll day, worked a little in the afternoon, and will probably watch British property shows. Comforting and pretty.

  3. I’m going to San Francisco this weekend for my anniversary. Any recommendations for clothes shopping, things that are more local/boutique-y, but nice or higher-end? As in, not the department stores etc.

    Any other recommendations are welcome too. I’d like to go to City Lights bookstore and the Asian Art Museum, and we love cuisines that are hard to get outside of major cities (like Uzbek or Georgian). Thanks :3

    2. I’m not great at fashion but I like the boutiques in Hayes valley. marine layer, amour vert. nooworks in the mission. for food: Udupi palace (amazing dosas), mandalay (Burmese),

    3. Museums around here are not great vs other larger American cities.

      In terms of cuisine, try Burmese food! There’s Burma Love or Mandalay or Burmese Kitchen (my preferred place). Dancing Yak has decent Nepalese food. Abaca has good Filipino food, but is pricey. Peruvian — Limon (chain) or Kaiyo. Guamanian – Prubechu. Cinderella – Russian bakery/cafe/deli. Since you’ll be near Chinatown already for City Lights, Empress by Boon is upscale reimagined Chinese food executed well + Maison Nico is a cute French patisserie.

      Shopping — Reformation, Cary Lane, Catbird (jewelry). More upscale clothing boutiques around Fillmore between Bush & Pacific St Random (clothing/accessories/trinkets) boutiques — Valencia St between 16th St & 24th St.

    5. Filmore street is full of smaller brands like Rothys, Cuyana, Frame, and Reformation. Would suggest Oaktown Spice, Credo Beauty, Dandelion Chocolate and Catbird. All within a 5 block stretch, with plenty of other store and food – between Jackson and Sutter.

      For food: Great Burmese out on the avenues (prefer Mandalay), Tortas in the mission (La Torta Gorda with a great patio) and pastries (B patisserie and Arsicault Bakery).

    6. I find visitors like to get burmese food because it’s not that easy to find in smaller towns. I love Burma Superstar and Burma Love, but there are lots of good options.

      There’s good shopping on Fillmore Street around Clay St. There’s a Sezanne, Rag & Bone, Paige, Gorjana, Cuyana, and a bunch of other boutiques.

    7. For shopping, Fillmore Street, Chestnut Street, Hayes Valley. Browser Books on Fillmore is great. When I go to City Lights I like to get brunch at Brioche Bakery & Cafe on Columbus, walk to City Lights, spend a luxuriant amount of time there, then walk back to the antique district or the financial district for a late lunch. Kokkari is excellent Greek food (make reservations) and Bar Sprezzatura is an elegant Italian restaurant. Burma Love is also a fantastic choice but it’s farther to walk there from City Lights.

  4. someone posted on the morning thread that they live in CA and just had trouble getting a d & c. i have two daughters and live in TX. i am dont having kids. i have an iud and DH is getting a vasectomy. I always dreamed of having a daughter and while they are only 6, so many of my friends have had miscarriages and required medical intervention. add one of my daughters bleeding out from a miscarriage to things i apparently now need to add to my list of worries

    1. I’m in a red state and will definitely encourage my daughter to leave the state for college and not come back. Thankfully we’re very close to a major city in a very blue state with good job opportunities so she doesn’t have to go far from home if she doesn’t want to.

    2. I’m as upset about the election as most of the people here, but wouldn’t you have had to worry about that even if Harris won?

      1. I think she’s worried about a national abortion ban? But that’s not going to happen, and I’m as devastated about the election as anyone.

        1. why would a national abortion ban not happen? Seems plausible. Couldn’t the Senate pass something?

          1. They won’t do it because they know it would be political suicide. Dobbs was bad enough, this would be 10x worse for them. Also it’s not a personal priority of Trump’s. I hate the guy, but he doesn’t care at all about banning abortion.

          2. Are we so sure they’re going to worry about politics, popularity, and future elections at this point?

          5. Many of the Republican Senators wouldn’t vote to pass it (Collins, Murkowskj), Trump wouldn’t sign it, and the Supreme Court wouldn’t uphold it (they are pretty committed to having states figure it out).

        2. People have been telling us not to worry about abortion rights for a while now, and look where that’s gotten us.

          1. Well, I wasn’t one of them. The reversal of Roe and subsequently states banning abortion were clearly real possibilities. A national abortion ban isn’t, and I think it’s crazy to equate them. I hate Trump and am very upset he won, but we have much bigger problems than hypothetical concerns about women in California not being able to get abortions. It actually seems kind of insulting to me to all the women in red states whose reproductive rights are actually threatened.

    3. 100% feel your feelings today. Let your mind grieve however you need to. But then…don’t borrow trouble. Keep clear eyes and stay involved in making the change you want to see, but your daughter having a miscarriage is not a concrete worry for the next four years.

      1. +1 and if the Trump second term is as bad as many here fear, the Congressional Democrats may win in a landslide in 2026.

        1. Assuming his second term doesn’t turn into a perpetual term a la Putin, Orban, Maduro, etc.

      2. Thank you for the phrasing “don’t borrow trouble” and the rest of your message. It’s really helping me.

        1. I believe it is a Senior Attorney original! But I think of it/repeat it all the time

          2. Yeah, this is an extremely common phrase, lol. I have nothing against SA but the hero worship of her around here is something else.

            This is like the Swifties who think Taylor invented common phrases like “all’s well that ends well.”

          3. “original” can mean the person who popularized a phrase in a community; it doesn’t have to mean OED first attested date

          5. Ok well her use of it a million years ago here is the first I heard it. Just acknowledging that I didn’t make up the phrase…it’s a bit of Corpore*** canon now

          6. Newsflash: The only word or phrase I am inclined to take credit for inventing is “Rotaversary:” the anniversary of one’s induction into the Rotary Club.

    4. That was me. I’m so sorry I added to your list of worries. I think the best you can do is help your daughters learn to trust their intuition when something feels off about their bodies, and not blindly follow what a dismissive doctor may say. I agree with the prior poster that you won’t have to worry about this happening to your daughters for a few years at least, at which point I hope our country has come to its senses.

  5. Ideas for dressing up a black sheath for a fancy holiday party? I lean more “strand of pearls” than “sparkle” and am trying to make this fresh but still me.

    3. I’m also a strands of pearls person, but I have a vintage rhinestone brooch that I thread through the clasps of my pearls and wear it to the front. It makes it seem sparkly/holiday.

      Also agree with red lipstick / Old Hollywood style makeup.

    4. Red lipstick and red shawl
      Do you have a fancier or bolder set of pearls? I love larger pearls or grey/black pearls with an evening look.

  6. I’m headed to DC tomorrow through Sunday for work. I am deeply upset with the election results and frankly couldn’t think of a worse place to be right now. Any recommendations for coffee shops or breakfast/lunch/dinner spots I should check out or places I should go? I need some recommendations to give me something to look forward to. I’ll be staying at the Yours Truly DC at 1143 New Hampshire Avenue NW.

    1. looks like you’re basically next door to Call Your Mother Deli, which is good for coffee/bagels/lunch and very close to Rasika which is a fabulous modern Indian restaurant. If you want to indulge, the apple pie at Blue Duck Tavern at the Park Hyatt is amazing. I’d honestly be tempted to pick one up and eat it in PJs in the hotel room.

      1. Love all these suggestions, and would also add Tatte (there are a bunch) as a good breakfast and lunch spot.

    2. Residents Cafe for cute decor and good cocktails if you want to drink about it and Grazie Nonna if you want to eat your weight in delicious pastas

    3. 1921 Biergarten at the Heurich House is delightful and right by you. I think the bagels at Bagels etc. are excellent.

    4. Thank you all so much for your suggestions! I really appreciate them and will definitely check some of these places out!

    6. Actually, if you are upset about the election results, DC is a pretty good place to be. You can bet that 99% of the people you encounter will also be upset. Solidarity.

      If you are down by Metro Center, Succotash has a very nice happy hour. It serves sort of elevated Southern food – excellent fried chicken and whatnot.

    7. Filomena Ristorante. So, so, so good. And the mamas in the window making pasta. So darn good.

    8. Tatte Bakery and Cafe West End and Circa Foggy Bottom are both near you and both pretty good. Hamilton’s and Old Ebbitt Grill are a bit further away, near the White House, but are great for lunch or dinner with a wide variety of dishes on the menu, and decent, long bars.

  7. the exit poll numbers i just read are scary. Trump gained a ton among both men and women Latino voters. Trump gained with black men (apparently they like racists?) , and voters aged 18-64. Harris gained with those over 65. our future does not look bright, but i guess maybe I should be optimistic since over half the country is happy with the outcome? i can understand why white men and women might like trump, and i can even comprehend (sort of) why Latino voters might, but i honestly don’t really understand the appeal for black men.

    1. Black men still voted for Harris by very large margins so it doesn’t make sense to me to get too upset about a slight rightward shift when they’re the second most Democratic voting block after Black women.
      I think young men of all races being radicalized by Joe Rogan and online misinfo is a huge problem, though.

      1. This. I weep for our future when you see the whole Rogan bros and social tradwife culture being picked up so freely.

      2. Actually Jewish women were the second strongest Harris block with 88% support, behind only Black women (92%) and ahead of Black men (78%).

    2. Black men lose jobs and have lower wages when there is unfettered immigration. Trump also did a lot on prison reform, and Kamala’s “tough cop” routine angered them.

    3. The polls I read showed Black men basically not shifting at all. From 80-19 to 79-20. Seems statistically insignificant.

    4. Someone in the black culture shared with me that most black men, just like white men, will not vote for a woman.

    5. 90% of Black men voted for Harris versus 24% of white men so…I’m focusing on where the real work to do is.

    6. I thought Trump lost support over all, but turnout was poor, and Dems lost even more support.

      I think it’s a case of “pick your poison” for a lot of voters, not “liking” or being “happy” with anything.

      1. So far, Trump has gotten 72.6 Million votes, compared to 74.2 million in 2020.

        Kamala has almost exactly 68 million votes; Biden got 81.2 million votes.

        To the extent that Trump “lost support,” it’s a rounding error. The Democrats are down about 16%.

    7. I think Trump is an aberration, perhaps like Obama was unusually charismatic. Happily, Trump can’t run again under our laws and is getting older everyday. I don’t think your average Republican is going to have that pull across demographics.

      1. I agree. I don’t understand it, but there is something about that man that uniquely captivates people. MAGA politicians basically never win when he’s not on the ballot, and even when he is, they vastly underperform him. Look at Arizona, which Trump won handily but where Gallego defeated Lake by like 7 points. Or NC where Trump eeked out a win but Mark Robinson lost to Josh Stein by double digits. Whoever they run in 2028 is unlikely to have similar success.

        2. Lake is nuts.

          Look at other states, like Wisconsin – Hovde trailed Trump by small numbers. Ayotte did better than Trump in NH by small numbers.

          1. Ayotte is not MAGA which is why she overperformed Trump. I’ve lived in New England. New England “Republicans” would be conservative Democrats in the Bible Belt. It’s nothing like the MAGA cult.

      3. I also agree with this. I think the damage that he and his administration have done (and, unfortunately, will do) is long-lasting in re: institutional changes in our government and unleashing something in the electorate that clearly isn’t going away any time soon. He has fundamentally reshaped the republican party and the nation, which is honestly kinda mindboggling. He has an unparalleled ability to avoid consequences and attract followers despite the sound reasons they would have to despise him, or at least, not support him. In that respect, I do think that he is unique, which is a good thing. Mark Robinson in NC, for example, was not able to escape his scandals and NC elected a democrat governor.

        All that being said, this election has made me aware of the profound uphill battle that non-MAGAs face. It’s clear that Trump’s approach/beliefs – whatever- has pull with more demographics than just disaffected poorly educated middle aged/older white men. MAGA/Trumpism–whatever you want to call it– I now feel like it’s entrenched in a way I didn’t before the election. I felt we’d have to deal with it for a while longer but we’d get back on track, more or less, within 10 years or so. I no longer think that. Dems cannot sit around and hope demographic changes will save them (which they never should have done). I remember in the 2000s and 2010s the thinking being that old white conservatives would soon die off and we’d be free of them (forgive callous phrasing) and as the country became more diverse and young people who didn’t grow up in the grips of old-school conservativism. That’s clearly not happening. I hope the democrats do some serious soul searching, not about whether we’re too mean to Trumpies, but about how to create and MESSAGE a truly compelling platform.

        Sorry for rambling. Figure once I stop writing I’ll start crying.

        2. Messaging can’t overcome white supremacy, racism and sexism. Just like crazy right-wing nut job policies aren’t more palatable if they are “messaged better.” We live in an obscenely ugly country, and always have.

        3. Thank you for getting it. Trump’s support amongst the Black and Latino community grows every election cycle.

    8. No, over half the ELECTORATE is happy with the outcome. Voters are a minority of the U.S. population. They control the composition of federal government, though. We have minority rule entrenched in the structure of our government.

      1. The turnout was around 65% of eligible voters, so it’s not a minority. And I think it’s safe to say that most people who stay home don’t really care which person wins. I’ve never really understood this “a small minority is choosing the president” argument, because not voting is also a form of voting. It’s a choice to stay home and it’s saying you don’t care/view the candidates equally. Doesn’t really seem any different than a third party vote to me.

        1. No, no it’s not. It’s the truth. A minority of eligible voters chose the winners. Also, the votes were quite close, which is obscured by the winner-take-all structure (as opposed to, say, a parliamentary structure, which of course is not how our government is structured).

  8. I’m looking into getting a treadmill and am wondering if anyone has one they like that has a very small footprint and also offers a good incline (e.g., like 10-15).

  9. could someone explain to me like i’m 5 what the two party’s “positions” are on immigration? when people say they voted for immigration, what does that mean in the assume-good-intentions sense of things?

    i think i’ve just thought of the republicans’ position as “no immigrants from s-hole countries,” while the dems are basically running around with pots to try to fix leaks and floods from whatever the current laws (from previous administrations) say.

    1. Trump says he wants to deport all illegal immigrants ASAP. It won’t happen though. It’s hugely impractical and it would destroy our economy because so many of them are farm workers we rely on for food.

      Democrats vary but generally want a path to citizenship for those who are already here and living productive lives (employed, not criminals, etc). but to tighten the border and significantly decrease illegal immigration. The Biden admin did that, fwiw.

      1. +1

        This is basically it.

        There are tons of details though that are always being debated about the various pathways to citizenship and waivers to employers to basically be able to import foreign workers on a seasonal / need or “need” basis to be able to pay them less than the market demands. There are also a ton of employers who rely upon undocumented immigrant labor that just get whispered about on both sides of the aisle, but yet are not addressed/punished. Trump was (is?) one of them.

        It is extremely difficult to decrease illegal immigration here because we have so many holes, but we also haven’t devoted the $$$$$ to actually try to do this. It is not cheap. As we know, this is not just a US problem. But it is harder to address than in a place like New Zealand (!) due to the huge size and diversity of our country. And climate change and economic inequality and unstable countries – in a world that is now connected by the internet – will drive immigration and its complexity to the brink.

      2. I’m a democrat who voted & campaigned for Kamala, but our look the other way immigration policy does need reform. We need a much stronger guest worker visa program, and not just H1Bs for highly skilled workers.

        I suppose the people who rail against all people of color coming to our country won’t like that either, but that would be an emotional argument against. The economic argument is strong. You like produce? You like a well funded social security system? Then you should be pro-immigration. Let’s make it easier for workers. They do work no one else wants to do. I don’t think Mr. They’re Stealing Our Jobs is going to go pick strawberries anytime soon.

        1. I agree with your second paragraph, but they’re not smart and educated enough to make that connection.

    2. There are literally position documents available online. It’s so frustrating the number of people who vote without doing some basic reading. People should be doing their own thinking, not relying on the media hot take. (Especially in a country that doesn’t even have neutral non-privately owned media)

      1. sorry, i should have said “give me the low information view of immigration the way that someone in rural kentucky would understand it”

    3. Someone recommended Hein de Haas’s 2023 guide to migration to me as context for the debates, but I haven’t read it yet.

    4. Trump has proposed ending birthright citizenship, ending DACA for Dreamers, ending TPS (temporary protected status) for people from countries in upheaval like Haiti/Ukraine/Venezuela, and upending the current asylum seeking process.

      He’s proposed mass deportations, with immigrants being rounded up and detained in newly built detention centers. His private prison donors can’t wait.

    5. The other part of this is the birth rate. As women have become more educated, their birth rate has declined — now below replacement rate. Some of that replacement rate is solved by immigrants. Of course, those people often are not white. The non-Hispanic white population is expected to fall below 50% in 2045. That’s a big problem for a section of the population which is why reproductive rights and immigration are a focus.

  10. Need some repairs to a piece DH bought me long ago. Any recommendations in the Northern Virginia area?

    2. If you are in the Reston/Dulles area, I highly recommend Aspen Jewelry Design. They designed and made my custom sapphire engagement ring and also repaired a number of pieces of jewelry for me–some expensive, some sentimental. They did a wonderful job.

  11. Is Grays Anatomy worth streaming? I didn’t watch IRL but need something unrelated to my life to veg out with at home while I knit.

    If not that, any good streaming series that I’d like if I loved Elspeth?

    1. Never seen Elspeth but the character was on The Good Wife so I assume you’ve seen that?

      Monk is another good show about a quirky professional (detective not lawyer, but I’ve heard it’s similar vibes).

      I liked the early seasons of Greys but then it kind of went off the rails.

      1. i wonder how Psych has held up? it was very charming and quirky.
        my son is watching How I Met Your Mother, which is also very bingeable and quirky.

        2. I’ve never seen Psych but I know a lot of Monk fans like it, so I should probably check it out at some point.

        3. Psych holds up really well, HIMYM doesn’t hold up at all and makes me cringe so hard

          1. HIMYM was very distasteful to me the first time around. “Ha, ha, Barney lies to women to have sex with them.”

          2. I hated HIMYM the first go round too. My college friends all loved it and I didn’t get it.

      2. Law and order started strong and by the late 90s just was too preachy. I’d still watch it and I could watch SVU all day but it’s just a different show.

    2. I liked the first few seasons of Greys but only dabbled after season 4 or so. The plots got too ridic to be fun. For mindless TV I prefer things like the British Baking Show!

    3. Haven’t seen Gray’s Anatomy, but definitely watch The Good Wife and The Good Fight if you liked Elsbeth. Poker Face also has a similar case of the week structure and quirky characters.

    4. the first few seasons were great, then it got a bit silly, but honestly so have most shows that have been on for that long. i liked it.

    5. I’ve watched it from the very beginning and will see it through to the bitter end, ha. The early seasons are great. Later seasons- some are better than others. There are ridiculous storylines all throughout. Meredith should have died like a dozen times by now. That hospital should be shut down.
      Yes, worth it, haha.

      2. +1 to all of this. It’s great for mindless TV, and there’s SO. MANY. EPISODES. so if you’re looking for an escape, it’s the never-ending binge-watch show.

      3. Hahaha same. At this point I have too many years invested in watching it to stop. I do like some of the later seasons. My favorite thing about the later seasons is watching Meredith become such a bada$$ woman. I feel irrationally proud and connected 😂😂😂

    6. Grey’s Anatomy is AMAZING the first 5 seasons, less so but still bingeable up to season 10, after that it goes way downhill. It’s really the perfect veg out show.

    7. I haven’t seen any of the shows mentioned in this thread so don’t know how this compares. Putting a plug for it anyhow: I enjoyed Shrinking on Apple TV. Harrison Ford has long been one of my favorite actors.

  12. I have a long torso, but I’m “only” 5’4 so need a lot of tailoring. Would love a jumpsuit that is work appropriate, not a turtleneck/mock neck but also not a deep V (the faux wrap tops are always too much cleavage for my workplace). I need a brand that specifically is for longer torsos or tall sizes. Athleta is too casual. Struck out at gap and long tall Sally. Other ideas?

    1. I am 5’6” with a long torso and have had luck with Old Navy jumpsuits in tall sizes. I don’t believe there is such a thing as a work-appropriate jumpsuit, though, if you work in an office.

  13. My husband’s friend voted for Trump in spite of going to an ivy league college and living in NYC. The last time we saw him and his fiance, she drunkenly told us that she would have never been attracted to him at first, and she would have actually been far more attracted to his best friend (he is more her type, she explained – handsome and charming).

    To spite this friend, I am going to casually mention to his best friend this exchange. I am cutting anyone out of my life who voted for Trump, but I want to release a little bit of anger before then.

    Anyone else feel absolutely done with everything? I’m sick of being nice and I want to burn everything down.

      1. He’s not our friend anymore. He voted for Trump and is all around kind of a prick. His fiance (the one who would prefer to be with his best friend and flirts with him like crazy) also voted for Trump and is similarly awful.

        1. I think she’s talking about the BFF. But based on your comment below it sounds like he’s awful too. Burn it all, I say.

    2. Unless his best friend is an ahole, your comment will never get back to your husband’s friend.

      1. Yeah but his best friend is someone who tries to hit on his friends’ partners to alpha-dog his friends. I’d say it’s a 50-50 chance he takes it as an in with his friend’s fiance.

        2. Wow, it sounds like you’re friends with that couple from White Lotus Season 2. I will just sit here and eat popcorn.

    3. You sound unhinged. Maybe find some healthier ways to cope. Are you going to ask people who they voted for, so you can avoid flying in planes piloted by Trump voters, or boycott restaurants where any staff voted for him? Good luck with that.

    4. but i thought that was living the dream for these kinds of bros – getting the woman who wouldn’t normally be attracted to them. they don’t want the woman who wants to stay home and have a baby on her hip to be their tradwife, they want someone who is interesting and accomplished to be their tradwife. like the Julliard ballerina girl whose husband pursued her psychotically and then gave her an egg apron instead of tickets to greece.

      the more repulsed she is by them to begin with, the bigger the win.

      1. This. Part of the appeal if succeeding at squashing a smart accomplished woman into a tradwife box.

    5. I get your instinct. But I don’t think this will cause the drama you’re envisioning and just make you look petty – a la Pete in Mad Men with his big reveal about Don and the reaction was “ok and?”

      I mean she did actually marry her husband, not his best friend, so for all you know they actually have a good laugh about it?

    6. What on earth? This is just going to make you look weird to all involved. Don’t do it.

      1. Yep. It’s amazing to me that you think you’ve got some kind of oral high ground here.

    9. I feel done with everything as well, but this may not provoke the reaction you seek. I’m pretty upfront about the fact that I almost didn’t go out with my now-husband for a second date.

    11. I suggest you just walk away from them. Don’t give them the satisfaction of being upset with them. You can’t control what they do (i.e., vote for Trump and be all-around a-holes), but you can control what YOU do, and you have to live with what you do for the rest of your life. Try not to set yourself up to look back with cringe. Once they are out of your life, they are out of your life — for the win!

    12. I don’t think the type of person you’re describing would credit (or care if they did credit) about a one-off remark from the woman he now clearly has “under his thumb” who he’s engaged to. If someone came up to me and told me my husband told him I wasn’t his type, I’d be stung, but ultimately I would brush it off.

      It feels briefly good to consider these types of scorched earth moves but the lever for this is just too small to really do the kind of “damage” you’re hoping for.

      As tiresome as it is, all “we” have is our dignity and integrity. Don’t stoop to “their” level.

    13. It’s too minor a thing. I mean by all means go for it if you like. People blurt out random things like this all the time. But not much may come of it.
      Channel your anger into some better revenge. I don’t know what right now (and I feel the same way), but revenge is a dish best served cold, so you’ll come up with something better.

  14. I’ll share some happy news on this dismal day: my 20 year old cat has been struggling with advanced kidney disease plus a UTI. He had a checkup today and his creatinine and BUN are back in a normal range for the first time in weeks! White blood cell count is coming back down too. Yay kitty!

    4. I am so happy for you! I know how hard kidney disease is, snuggle kitty extra.

  15. What are your favorite advent calendars you are getting / giving this year?

    I usually do chocolate, which is always well received.

    I did the Bonne Maman jelly/preserves one last year for for an elderly relative and it was a big hit. It sells out fast though so look for it now.

    1. The Nespresso advent calendars look great this year. The only problem is that it’s only one capsule per day, and not something easy to share with DH!

    2. Flaviar’s whiskey calendar is a favorite.

      I think consumables are the way to go. I’ve tried various makeup/skincare and candle calendars over the years, but I end up with a ton of little things I can’t keep track of. I’ve realized the only thing I’d want 12+ of is something I can consume in one sitting.

    5. Trader Joe’s offers an insanely cheap advent calendar that sells out instantly, if you can find it, with a slim chocolate behind each door. At that price, you can buy multiples to give away.

  16. Anyone else taking angry naps on the couch and eating flavored kettle chips all day instead of working?

    1. I started reading a YA fantasy novel “for my lunch break” and didn’t get back to work for 3 hours. Focusing is… a challenge. Judging from the limited number of emails I’ve gotten today, I’m not the only one. Debating just giving up entirely for the rest of the day. Thank god I had no meetings today.

  17. Our dog seems really worried about us today. She’s a prickly, yappy chihuahua mix, not a dog you typically think of as giving people comfort, but it’s like she knows something is up and she wants to make us feel better.

  18. like many here i’m discouraged and horrified and upset. but something that made me smile: i was looking at my son’s STABLE account plan and they have a “weather booster” — you can set it to automatically contribute an extra $1 or more when more than 50% precipitation is predicted in your area. I set it to $5.

    (STABLE is kind of like 529 but for disabled kids.)

  19. Trying to distract myself productively –
    One of my execs just said they “use AI tools every day”. I have dabbled with the occasional question on the desktop version of ChatGPT, and used the embedded tools in Microsoft Office for my desk job, but not gone beyond.
    I’d like to try this out and use it daily for something: work related questions – market analysis or industry trends, or parenting questions, or anything really.
    What tools do you recommend I start with, as a newbie? Generating images or text or answering questions or music? How do I get to using it once daily? Install on my phone? Do I need a bunch of different apps? Are there free ones? Thank you.

    1. My boss uses it to generate absolute garbage text that he constantly wants to send out to our clients. I hate it with a fiery passion.

      1. Solidarity. I’m a writer and my bosses use it to write their own things and even edit my work, which is truly painful. AI text is garbage that repeats itself unnecessarily but they love it, because they think the more words you use, the smarter you sound.

        I think our society is really f-ed based on the number of reasonably smart people with college degrees who can’t recognize AI text and think it sounds wonderful.

    2. Just for experimenting and seeing what you find useful, I’d go with just keeping a chat.openai.com tab or gemini (Google’s version) open on the computer you use most often. Both have strong free versions. And then if you want to try something more high powered, sign up for a Notion free trial.

      I am still finding the junk: useful ratio off, but it’s a good exercise to compare your current methods and I like the idea of a brief experiment per day

    3. I write a lot of long form articles and instructions. I use it to recommend edits or decrease word count or give prompts like “what is a simple way to say…(insert my doc)..”

    4. I’ve been using Gemini. I use it as a like a brainstorm partner – email subject line ideas (I do corporate comms), different ways to say phrases, etc.

    5. Don’t put anything confidential in whatever tool you use; the input is used to train the tool.

      I like it for finding recipes and generating meal plans. It’s also helpful for tweaking the language of written text to make it more [concise/friendly/warm]. Having it summarize lengthy text or articles has been a mixed bag. Telling it to provide links to sources is also mixed.

      Do check whatever output you get for accuracy, and if you get sources from it, check that they not only exist but that they also say what it tells you they do.

    6. Bring your co-pilot agent into your Teams meeting and have it make meeting minutes for you.
      I use a prompt that I’ve refined and get fantastic results. Minor corrections needed, but not usually.

  20. Probably too late to get responses now so will likely repost tomorrow, but just in case: does anyone have a recommendation for a lawyer in Northern Virginia? I’m sure if an estate lawyer is what I’m looking for, but I need someone to represent me in a situation that could be emerging with an estranged and extremely difficult, volatile family member’s estate. I don’t know much right now–it could be nothing, it could be extremely serious–but either way I’m not returning the call in my inbox without retaining council. Sadly, BTDT.

    Yes he loves (loved?) Donald Trump, so it feels like a real f you from both of them that this landed in my voicemail today.

    1. Not quite in your area but might be doable with Zoom – I’ve used Pagano & Marks in Richmond and have had a good experience.

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