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We just got this dress, and while we'll admit that it will be too casual for most conservative offices, we were really impressed with what it is for a $25 dress. The fabric is nice (although a little on the thin side — glad we got the navy), the waist is just the right height, and it flatters curves while keeping a ladylike, knee-length look. The navy is on sale for $25 at Gap.com (online only) in sizes XS-XXL, petites, and talls. Gap Slub Tank Dress
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In random Admin stuff:
– I keep forgetting to mention this: I'm coming to Dallas on July 23, and thinking of throwing a meet-up at a bar or some such in the evening. A) Would you come, dear Dallas readers, and B) Where would you suggest?
Emily
Agree that it’s probably too casual for the office, but it looks like a good example of what to wear to a summer work barbeque or an outdoor intern/summer associate event. And I love the blue!
anon - chi
Me too – but I sort of wish it weren’t named “Slub.” When I initially read it, I thought it was described as a “Gap Slob Tank Dress.”
lawDJ
Hmm I think your office would have to be really casual to be able to wear this, and then with a jacket of some kind. The reviews say it’s a modified T-back. Then again, it does look good as a beach coverup or weekend dress. I’d buy it if I wasn’t on a no-spending ban :)
L
Love this for a weekend! Too casual for my work, but you can’t beat the price.
AIMS
Like the dress. Probably wouldn’t wear it to work unless it was maybe on a super slow summer Friday. But lovely.
Only question is why is it Bargain Thursday? Not Friday? And, last week the suit of the week was on a Tuesday. Not complaining, just a bit thrown off and wondering. Are most people taking off tomorrow? Am I the only one who has work? :(
Anonymous
Because tomorrow is a HOLIDAY!!! Yaay!
RR
Monday is a holiday at my office. I wish tomorrow were a holiday too!
Dress is fabulous and looks so comfy for weekend. I would not wear it to work, but I would live in it on the weekend. Hmm…my new Gap VISA is calling my name…
RoadWarriorette
Monday is our holiday too. I know a bunch of people at my work are taking off tomorrow (which is not going to be awesome when I’m trying to get stuff reviewed but whatever) but I will be working.
As far as the dress goes, I think it is very cute. It would be great for Friday for a more casual office (with a cardi) down here in super hot Texas. I also think it would be very comfortable for traveling. May have to check it out!
Kat
last week I was two keystrokes away from posting “Beauty Wednesday” when I realized that it was Tuesday. (I had already posted the Suit of the Week.) It was just one of those “D’oh!” days…
and I was going to mention this in the admin stuff and then decided against it but clearly should have — I’m just assuming that so many people will be taking a 4-day weekend that we should just do the Friday schedule today.
AIMS
On a tangentially related summer work clothes note:
WSJ has a great article on summer clothes for the office.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704911704575327200125220006.html?mod=WSJ_LifeStyle_Lifestyle_6
ES
iridescent shoes? really? rest of the article seems good. but I’m still stuck on the iridescent shoes.
AIMS
I loved their take on the shorts suit!!
. . . If you wear a shorts suit, no one will be thinking, “She’s a good lawyer,” they’ll just be thinking, “Is she wearing shorts??”
Also, never thought about the collar thing, but it makes a whole lot of sense in why some things work, and others less so.
Alice
I have to say I disagree with the shorts thing, just from what I’ve seen around DC. I have a pair of black bahama (knee length) shorts made out of a nice suit material that are straight-legged and have just enough gap at the knee to be professional without being yoga-pant like (they also have the nice crease down the front of the leg from professional ironing which may help). I wear them with a nice blouse or cardigan to work. Granted my office is on the Hill but business casual (no jeans, etc.) but I was in the Capitol for a briefing and I saw many women there (clearly not interns, some from NGOs and some from offices on the Hill) wearing similar long shorts in black and even one in beige.
White shorts are probably a no-no, or in bold colors or patterns, but I think in a solid neutral color as long as the cut and material are right (not to mention the shoe is key!) they can help deal with the sweltering heat and humidity but still convey professionalism.
Anon
Regardless of whether or not suit-fabric shorts are acceptable, every place I’ve ever worked in law (firms as well as in-house) has “no shorts” in the dress code, including for casual Fridays.
Ru
I’m going to have to agree with Anon here, I’ve seen women wearing the complete short suit – jacket, blouse/shirt, and shorts, all very nice quality – and it completely undermined whatever authority and professionalism the jacket was supposed to convey.
I don’t work in a field that requires professional attire that law does (I’m in engineering, our dress code is flexible between business casual, business professional and field attire when appropriate) and any woman who was not administrative staff wearing shorts is going to get a not-so-flattering second look.
Alice
Sorry, to amend what I wrote:
I am no where near law, and I agree that if I saw a lawyer (corporate or otherwise) wearing shorts I would probably do a double-take, but in other fields I’ve gotten the impression they are completely acceptable when not outright disallowed by policy.
Generally I take my cues from other women when I start someplace new, but it is good to know that this type of short is viewed unfavorably in many offices. I will be extra cautious from now on when I wear them.
Emily
I’m a lawyer, and I suspect that wearing a suit with shorts to my law firm (or the clerkship I finished last year!) might get me sent home. But I work in an office building with a large corporate headquarters, and I sometimes see their female employees wearing short suits. They look fresh and summery, and I’m sometimes jealous. However, I have never seen a woman over 35 wearing one of these, which makes me think it really calls attention to one’s youth on the job, which might not be a good thing.
ES
I also think there is a big difference between a short-suit look and a more business casual shorts with a blouse look. The second would be fine for a casual office – but shorts with a matching suit jacket makes it look like you forgot half your pants.
Anon
Or like a 3 year old boy at a wedding/on Easter Sunday.
AL
I have to disagree as well; I worked on the Hill for 6+ years and now in a non-profit as a lobbyist and short suits are a no-no, even on casual Fridays. My office is pretty casual (there are others in my office who are non-lobbyist, non-governmental affairs) and even they aren’t allowed to wear shorts. I personally think shorts not only convey the wrong message of “I just got out of college”, it just seems plain lazy to me. Put on a proper suit with pants or a skirt and get over the 100+ degree heat and humidity, we’re all dealing with it.
Kimbo
I’m with you, AL. I’m in DC, as well. I work off the Hill, but I often go to the Hill for various things. And I never see anyone in shorts.
Bonnie
I would get laughed at if I wore shorts to the office. Even on a casual friday, they are not appropriate IMO.
AN
I just saw a colleague in shorts (Friday) at our biz casual office. It looks even worse as she’s wearing her normal posh high heels!! She is so well dressed daily (sheaths, pencil skirts, lovely shoes) that it came as a real shock to me.
Cat
ha, those jumped out at me immediately too — but not for looking iridescent — they remind me immensely of those old-fashioned slippers that are somewhat like ballet flats, but with elastic around the entire foot opening. They also looked bizarrely matchy with the dress. IMO that outfit was screaming for skin-tone slingbacks!
Lawgirl
i thought the dress was wayyyy too tight, too. not a cute look, IMHO
MelD
I got a Merona dress like this from Target a few months ago and it is very comfortable. Unlike this one, you can wear a bra with it and it won’t show. I wouldn’t say this would work at work though- it’s just a wee bit too casual except for Fridays with a cardigan over it.
em
I live in Target’s dresses on the weekend. Love.
R.S.
Re: Dallas – Yes! Yes! Yes! I, for one, will be there if you have an event in Dallas! I would suggest a venue in Uptown or Downtown, since that is where most lawyers, as well the core Dallas business community, are located. Sambuca strikes me as a good venue for a Corporette event – any other Dallas readers have thoughts?
JJ
I’m for a Dallas meet-up as well! Sambuca is a great idea, I also like Idle Rich, Black Friar, Liar’s Den, or the bar at Charlie Palmer’s (all in Downtown/Uptown area).
Anon
Liar’s Den closed, but I like the Sambuca and Charlie Palmer ideas!
RoadWarriorette
I’m in Austin but I will be traveling through the DFW area that weekend–I could try and time it so I could stop by. Fun!!
I think I’ve actually been to Sambuca’s, and I remember it being pretty good with great drinks.
Dawn
I would love to do a Dallas meet-up! Sambuca sounds perfect.
Stephanie
I’d love to do a meet up in Dallas and will actually be in town that day. As a newbie, I don’t have any new suggestions, but all of the locations sound great to me…
em
I’ll be in Texas then, and would definitely come out for this.
NB
I would also come to a happy hour in Dallas. Sambuca’s would be good or Truluck’s. Truluck’s is a bit pricey, but they have a really good happy hour. Truluck’s is a seafood place near the West Village close to downtown.
Anonymous
Maybe I’m in the minority here, but this to me is just a stone’s throw from pajamas. Read: NSFW.
Anon
It looks very similar to some of their pj dresses, yes.
fresh jd
This looks like the type of dress that every woman has (or should have by now) in her closet and that getting it would just add another unnecessary item to the overflowing closet bought mainly for the low price. Or maybe I’m just speaking for myself.
fresh jd
Also note the name of the dress, which I think says it all: “Slub Tank Dress”.
Amanda
Well, to be fair, slub is the name of a process of treating jersey to give it a particular texture. I wouldn’t necessarily say a garment made of slub jersey is inappropriate for work. This would be okay in my office, but I work in a consulting firm that’s tiny, super-casual, and never has clients visiting. For example, today I’m wearing jeans and a tank top, and that’s pretty typical for the wardrobe here.
fresh jd
Still, I’d feel pretty “slubby” wearing such a flimsy dress to work.
Fresh
A schlub is an unkempt person, as is a slob. Slub is something else.
fresh jd
Thanks for the clarification. I think Amanda explained it fine.
RC
Thank you for saving me from doing just that!!!
dee
I want tomorrow to be a holiday for me too! I think the direction my office is going in is that I’ll have to show up but can probably leave at lunch. It seems like a lot of effort to wake up & get dressed just to show up for 3 hrs.
Ru
Ditto. But we do what we gotta do…..
Big Firm Lawyer
holiday? what holiday? I think I get Sunday off
Anon
And that’s why I left BigLaw…
dee
I guess when it’s Sunday *and* July 4th, even biglaw has to give its people the day off.
SF Bay Associate
Ha! Biglaw doesn’t *have* to give its people ANY days off. I billed at least 4 hours every single day of June, and more 12+ on weekdays. July will be more of the same.
Lawgirl
Yeah, with BigLaw, you can always REFUSE to come and finish the brief (while the partner goes to the beach). And we know that lands you — crappola work, harassing nasty emails, bad review for ‘dropping a ball’, and a long slow slide toward the door.
Hallelujah, free at last, free at last, thank God almighty, I’m free at last! ;-D
RKS
Most definitely. :-)
N
International clients and time differences… I don’t think I get Sunday off :-)
eplawyer
I have a court hearing in the morning. The boss is kinda a PITA. Hopefully, I can convince her to let me go home early.
(p.s. I am self-employed).
LawyerChk
I laughed.
Lawgirl
Me too! Just got the joke!!
Bonnie
I get Monday off but since I’m in trial will probably be spending the day working on my closing. :-(
nonA
I would wear it on a weekend and love it! Definitely not for work at my office, but I can see throwing this on to meet friends for brunch/lunch or do some shopping on a Saturday afternoon.
Maryn
Would love to come to a Dallas event – Sambuca would be a great location!
BT
These dresses look like maternity wear to me. Perhaps this is because I have broader shoulders…I absolutely must have my natural waist defined else I look preggo or like a football player.
Emily
These dresses look like maternity wear to me. Perhaps this is because I have broader shoulders…I absolutely must have my natural waist defined else I look preggo or like a football player.
alex
thread hijack…ok, I need to give my brain a break from the frying that is dep summaries…so here’s something I’ve been meaning to ask you ladies, should be a fun topic….
A lot of you have mentioned that you shudder to think of some of the outfits you considered work appropriate back when you were starting your career. Let’s hear the horror stories! As for me, when I was a teenager I worked summers as an assistant in a family member’s law office. Although not required to dress up at all, I felt that I should. I wanted to be professional, after all. So I wore my best “dressy” outfits, my favorite being: an ankle length glittery butterfly-print burgundy velvet (in philadelphia, in July!!) tube skirt with slits way up the thigh on both sides, paired with strappy dark red satin 4″ heels, and topped with a plunging polyester purple wrap top. But!!! I was “adult” so I wore pantyhose too. I wish I could say i was making this up or exaggerating, but…no.
L
I have a good one. My 1L summer, I worked in biglaw, and one day I wore a turquoise nylon-blend (?) cami to work (with a strapless bra) and black capri pants, and open toe sandals. I did wear a cardigan over, but I took the cardigan off to walk down a hall. I shudder to think of it!
KM
I also worked in a law office but for a friend of the family. I’m pretty sure that I once wore a pink strappy dress similar to the one above w/ bra straps showing and flip flops with a jean jacket to hide the strappyness. Cute outfit, but NOT professional at all (even in a casual office, which it was).
Minnesota Fan
My hall of shame:
1) I wore Black pants, a polyester blazer that fit so poorly and looked so cheap that it was ridiculous, and opaque beige stockings that you could clearly see in my very cheap looking black slingback shoes to my first interneship in a government office.
2) I wore a SHORT skirt suit (had to have been 4-5 inches above my knee) to meet a Congressman. I have photo evidence. I don’t display that photo.
3) I wore very loose “dress” pants made from jersey type material and a “nice” t shirt to an internship with a business formal government office. Why?
I did all of these things between the ages of 18-22 when I was broke and had NO idea what professional dress looked like for women. I wish I had had Corporette then!
em
Mine:
1) Burnt orange broomstick skirt. Need I say more? (office clerk when I was 19).
2) First week of work (age 15, office clerk) – thought casual Friday was casual – wore jeans, Les Miserables t-shirt, and sandals.
3) Strappy sandals. Nearly every workday through every internship, for most of college.
4) Low cut shirts – it took me till age 22 to learn the function of a cami. Luckily I’m an A cup.
5) Full-length denim skirt several sizes too big in the waist.
Yikes
KM
I just thought of another one of my hall of shame moments — I def. wore an ankle length knit skirt with black doc martins (the boots not the “dressy” shoes)… I also consistently wore my tan doc martin “dressy” mary jane t-strap shoes to the office (I was in high school after all).
Cat
the summer after my freshman year in college, I worked for a utility company (basic office filing type work), and one of my heavily-rotated pieces was a pair of drawstring-waist, loose-fitting black jersey pants. Believe it or not I suspect they were Ann Taylor or similar, but definitely intended for the “people might be dropping by my house this afternoon so I don’t want to wear real sweatpants” crowd.
Oh, as a bonus, I wore black leather platform sandals with them.
AIMS
Pre law school, I worked in RE office. I rarely dressed appropriately. Once I wore a black teeshirt I got at the disney store that had burgundy embroidery of tinkerbell at the collar. I thought it was subtle enough that I could get away with it at the office. Oh, and I “dressed it up” by wearing it with my favorite dark pair of jeans.
This led to a conversation with my boss, who explained that “when you’re in the business of selling real estate, you’re also selling yourself.”
In law school, I didn’t fare much better. I wore black velvet pants & a checkered blazer to an alumni meet & greet (I was going to wear my American Apparel “pencil” skirt but luckily decided it wasn’t “flattering” at the last minute). I also wore a linen halter dress to a summer position, b/c “linen” somehow = “office sophisticated” in my mind; and I also wore a too short black mini to an internship b/c it was “black” and “no one would notice” (they did).
I could go on but it’s depressing. I wonder which items, that I wear now, will cause me to think that I was insane in 10 years….
AbbyA
Oh this is making me feel so much better! I summer clerked at the AG’s office and everyone was very casually dressed. When I started in the fall at Big Law, I wore a polyester dress, no stockings and sandals on my first day! I also remember wearing a sundress one day and from the shocked look on one parnter’s face, I finally realized that it was inappropriate attire. Looking back, what I don’t understand is why I didn’t catch on the very first day. ALL the other lawyers were in suits.
Eponine
Office assistant, age 19. International setting with lots of Arabs/Muslims who cover fully. Pants made out of broomstick skirt material, black fading to red from the shin down, drawstring waist. Low riding; possible visible thong. Belly shirt.
My supervisor had a little talk with me that afternoon. Live and learn.
Amanda
I had a finance internship after my sophomore year of college, and my entire wardrobe was terrifying. In particular I recall an ankle-length gray flannel cargo skirt, paired with a ice blue stretchy nylon boatneck top and black oxfords with huge, huge rubber soles.
It was the 90s.
Additionally, my everyday makeup job was horrible. I was under the impression that I could wear my winter foundation with my much darker summer skin. I mean, I could get away with my winter foundation now, but I also barely see the sun no matter what time of year it is.
nonA
I so had an outfit just like that!!
Cat
I had a cargo skirt too — it was made of a “dressier” khaki (finer weave, slight sheen to it). Paired with my nine west “cloud 9” thick soled brown leather slip on loafers, I was ready to go!
Anonymous
In the early ’90’s, I was wearing an Ann Taylor dress, sort of a structured sheath, that SEEMED to be an appropriate length, though not quite knee length. I had checked it standing up, sitting down, etc. I had not checked it with one foot on the floor, one knee on a bench, leaning over said bench, across the bar in the courtroom, to discuss a matter quickly with a client. Apparently this caused it to ride up considerably more than I might have anticipated. The judge sent someone over to interrupt me, and the message delivered was “Holly, the judge says you are flashing him.” Ack! (for the full humiliation factor, you need to appreciate that this particular judge probably really, really enjoyed the show.)
zerodoll
I think most of my fashion horrors came from dressing too “manly.” Because I have big feet (size 9), I can wear mens’ shoes. “Can” doesn’t mean “should”. And pleated front pants. Oh and on a job interview, white flats with a navy suit. The shoe sales guy had even asked me if I was wearing them to a wedding and I didn’t catch on that they might not be a good everyday pair of shoes!
Experienced
I once went on an interview with one blue and one black pump shoe! To be fair, the shoes were almost identical except for color. Only discovered the mistake when I got home. I did not get the job.
Chicago S
I did this also, but at a temp job that I was hoping would go perm. The shoes were the same pair that I owned in both black and navy. I noticed it in the parking lot when I got out of my car and had to decide if I was going to be an hour plus late (round trip home for matching shoe) or stay at my desk as much as I could. I opted for the desk.
Ru
Once, I wore an outfit completely in black, including black socks and realized when I got to work that I was wearing brown shoes (I had the same pair in black). Thankfully, I had shoes at my desk to switch into.
nonA
Went to one of those law firm “meet and greet” things as a 1L after I scored a rare on-campus interview for 1L summer associate gigs. (This was back in the heady days of a good economy.)
The invite for the event said “casual” which I interpreted as jeans, t-shirt and birkenstocks even though it was being held in one of the trendiest bars in town. EVERYONE else was wearing their “casual” and stylish designer outfits. I went straight through to law school and had absolutely no idea from family etc. what the corporate world was like. Casual meant CASUAL to me at that point.
Didn’t get a callback, and I imagine them all talking about the awful girl in birkenstocks the next day.
Anonymous
Three words: Black.Leather.Skirt.
It wasn’t short or tight, but it was still a black leather skirt. *sigh*
Delta Sierra
I see your black leather skirt, and raise you a black suede one. *cringes*
Louise
How about rather shiny, iridescent brown leather pants? They were rather booty-licious, too.
Eponine
I raise you purple suede. Take that.
mew
Gray miniskirt. With a slit in the front. Snarky co-worker said in front of the entire office that I forgot my skirt.
At least I had the sense to wear tights and flats.
anon23
During law school I was an intern at a local firm and I wore a mermaid style skin tight, hugging the butt, deep maroon skirt that was totally evening gown material with a black funky cut tank that barely covered the bra straps, and knee high boots. The skirt was long enough no skin showed between skirt and boot. But, I wore it to school that day before going to work and a male professor stopped me and said “where are you going tonight?” (It was a Friday). I looked at him oddly and said, “work.” Not catching on that he thought I was headed to the Oscar’s or something. I recently put that same outfit on to go to a restaurant’s soft opening and couldn’t stop blushing thinking about how I wore it to work. That said, in the office I was at I don’t think anyone blinked an eye but I shutter to think about how it looked to any other professionals I ran into.
em
I just want to thank everyone who gave me advice about going to the informational interview with the big firm partner on crutches. Everything went great – cab to the restaurant, and he didn’t make a big deal about the ankle. And even better, while I thought it was an informational, give me advice and contacts about the field interview (and had set it up as such), it turned out to be an actual job interview…and this guy wants to hire me!!!! It’s not definite, as he has to get final approval from HR to take on an associate for his practice area, but it’s pretty close to it!
I just have to celebrate a little in this thread because as a 3L in this economy I thought I would never find a job, let alone at a big firm. Thank you so much to everyone who gave me advice and helped me feel prepared and confident going into this meeting-turned-job interview.
Cat
That’s fabulous you made such a great impression!
AIMS
Congratulations!!!
Eva
Great news, em! Glad to hear it worked out so well! How’s your foot/ankle/leg (can’t quite remember the full back story) doing?
em
Thanks everyone! My ankle is much better – today is my first day off crutches, although I still have the ridiculous boot and have to lumber around like Igor. Glad to be done with the crutches, though – those are a nightmare.
dd
Yay! Great work.
anon23
Yay!!!!
s in Chicago
FANTASTIC! What great news!
3L
CONGRATS!!! that is awesome and inspiring! I’ve been working on networking with collegues at my summer position, and e-mailing around to people at firms I think I’d like to work at, and your story has totally gotten me jazzed on meeting people. This kind of thing keeps my hopes of being employed alive.
em
Thanks! Definitely keep at it – I emailed a tax partner (that’s what I’m into and have a background int) at every medium and big law firm in the city I’m working in this summer, my boyfriend’s hometown, and my favorite cities in my home state, so it sounds like we have similar strategies/game plans. I have about 8 more meetings set up over the next month (and I’m keeping them, since nothing in this economy is certain and it’s always good to have options), and I’ve asked around at my current summer position (state govt) for contacts for my boyfriend – a fellow 3L – in this city, since he wants to do a totally different field of law, and got him a good list, so I’m encouraging him to do the same. It’s even more encouraging for me because he and I decided we weren’t going to get engaged until at least one of us has a job and the other one at least as good prospects. :-)
Ru
Awesome for you, glad to “hear” your ankle’s better!
SR
Congratulations and best of luck!
Eponine
Congratulations!
lawDJ
Fantastic!! That is great news!!
Chicago S
Congratulations!
Anon
Em, first of all congratulations. I hope the job situation works out well. Also curious, did you just cold email this partners? You seem to have managed to get a lot of meetings, so wanted to know what did you say in your email that you got such a positive response. I hope you don ‘t mind sharing that info.
rising 3L
I would love to hear this too! I am not working at a firm this summer, I’m working in house in the industry I hope to work in after graduation. I’m not in my desired city during the year so I can’t network and would love to meet some people this summer but I don’t know how to reach out without seeming desperate or weird. Help!
em
Sure, I don’t mind at all.
I did cold email. I didn’t get a good response from doing this with the cities in my home state (a few “get an LLM” responses, mostly crickets – even though this state is known for being friendly), although I have meetings set up there with some people through family connections. I’ve gotten great responses from the two Midwestern secondary market cities I also focused on – where my bf is from and where I’m working this summer (same state as my law school). Since I want to do tax law, I highlighted my tax/accounting experience on my resume (internships, a student journal note, the IRS VITA volunteer tax assistance for low income people program, etc.). I emailed a tax partner at each medium to big firm in the two cities, and this was the basic email I sent:
“Dear Mr./Ms. Bigtaxlawyer,
I am a rising 3L at X Law School. I am very interested in tax law, and I hope to work in [city] after graduation. I was hoping you as someone heavily involved in the field might have some advice for me on starting a tax law career, either steps I should take or people I should talk to. I have had several tax-related jobs and internships, including working for X this summer, and am working on becoming eligible for the CPA exam, as well. I will be happy to talk with you in person, by telephone or communicate by e-mail, whichever is more convenient for you. My contact information is included on the resume I am enclosing in the hope that learning my background will be helpful to you.
Thanks in advance for any advice you can give me,
em”
Basically framing it as “You’ve accomplished so much in this field, can you give me advice on getting started, or if you can’t, can you put me in touch with someone who can?” I tailored it to each firm/person if I noticed we shared alma maters for undergrad or law school, they worked on the issue I wrote my note on, etc. For what it’s worth, no one who I emailed with primarily a “help a fellow alum” focus has responded, even though both my UG and law school have rabidly loyal alumni bases. Every one of my responses was one who I contacted with solely an “I’m interested in tax” focus – maybe it’s because the alum thing sounds more like “give me a job” and the practice area thing allows them to talk about what they do and give advice without having to feel guilty they can’t hire you – like they have a way out. That’s my theory anyway.
The advice I gave my boyfriend, who isn’t in tax and doesn’t have a specific interest like that, was to look at profiles of lawyers at firms you want to work at, and find someone who does something that sounds interesting to you. Bonus points if you have good experience or credentials you can relate to that practice area, if you loved a class on that broad area of law and want to know more about the specifics, etc. Email with basically what I said, tailoring it to the city and practice area you’re interested in. For the ones in my home state, I told them when I would be in town, and for the ones in my boyfriend’s city, I told them I visit the city frequently for personal reasons regularly.
I’ve always been kind of a shy, reserved person who doesn’t want people to think negatively about her or reject her, but after striking out at OCI, I decided to suck it up and just contact people, and who cares what they thought because I needed a job. That’s how I got my summer position, which I love, and that’s what I’m doing to get a permanent job. I’ve gotten way better at the networking thing, and better at being outgoing and sustaining a conversation with someone I cold-called, so that has helped as well. Necessity is a good teacher.
I hope this helps someone! And anyone who knows more about hiring than I do is free to chime in, of course.
em
and also for what it’s worth and in case it’s helpful to have context, I go to a well-regarded Top 25 law school, but have a mediocre GPA (due mainly from the death of a close family member 2 days before finals 1L second semester).
Becca
Commenting here for the first time to say thanks for posting about your approach to networking. I’m not a lawyer, but I’m changing fields from non-profit to design, and have been working up the nerve to cold-email people. I’ve always been a bit shy, but I’m finding that you don’t gain anything from being afraid to put yourself out there.
TK1
Agree with Becca, I have been putting off cold emailing because I don’t know what to say and, of course, am afraid of rejection. Thanks for the guidence!
RR
I just want to say kudos to you for going after a job and getting past the shyness! I would think very positively of someone who made that effort (it shows you are likely to make effort in networking and generating business as well). Congratulations on the success of your lunch!
Anon
Thanks Em from the original anon who asked the question. I did this and got my first job at V10 firm (albeit in flush years). Just wanted to share this so as to encourage others in similar boat.
Liz
Yeah, probably not a good office dress, but great to wear on weekends, or out to casual dinners.