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I do not do Peloton right now — I did the trial many moons ago, but it wasn't my thing at the time and right now I've got enough streaming workouts to do at home. But I saw one of these posters somewhere and I'm so drawn to this kind of thing that I kind of want to subscribe just because of that!

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  1. Worried Anon

    My roommate was briefly hospitalized for something unrelated to Covid and is returning home today. We are in a hot spot. I am of course concerned about him but I am also worried about the possibility that he has been exposed and if so that he might pass it to me. What precautions would you take in my shoes?

  2. Anon

    You’d think being sheltered in place would mean I’m spending a lot less money, and I’m definitely not spending as much money on eating out or socializing as I used to, but I seem to have replaced it and more with spending money on my hobby. Somebody please come over and block eBay so I’ll stop buying things I don’t need! I’m going to try very hard to buy nothing but groceries this week, and then one week at a time from there.

    • Anonymous

      I’m with you. My mom called and said something like “oh it was helpful for me to do a body scrub and face mask yesterday! You know those things other people buy you that you never use?”

      I don’t know how to tell her that I spent a small fortune on Sephora and Nordstrom candles and skincare yesterday. We’re very different women!

  3. Anonymous

    I just heard unofficially from the powers that be that I’m likely working from home until August or September. I miss my office and my team. Thanks for letting me be sad.

    • Anon

      I was sad when my office said June 15th…so I can only imagine how you must feel!

    • Leatty

      My work has only said that we will be doing some form of social distancing for the better part of a year. It sounds like they will slowly transition people back into the office (in some fashion) during that time period, but I anticipate that those who are high risk will still be required to work remotely. I fall in that category, so I may not see my office until next year. Really hoping that isn’t the case.

    • Anonymous

      I’m so sorry! That’s horrible, and I hope they change that since it seems like there are many government restrictions that may be lifted potentially soon. I know none of us want to get sick, but the being out of the office thing is tough–I ought to know, I have been unemployed long-term and haven’t been in an office in almost two years now! I’ll be sad with you, and things are terrible now but will be good again soon!

      • OP

        Haha it’s actually a (not US) government job! So I doubt things will change any time soon.

    • NOLA

      I spoke with a member of my team today and she asked if there are plans to reopen the campus anytime soon. I think she was pretty shocked when I said no and that summer school has already been moved online. She doesn’t have a lot that she can do from home so I think she is fearful of losing her job. There will be cuts but I can’t predict what will happen because I don’t know what the new normal will look like. So I asked her to start thinking strategically about how the operations might work when we do reopen. Ugh.

  4. anon a mouse

    “Less Workhorse, More Show Pony” seems out of sync with the rest of this poster, yes?

    • Cat

      Yep.

      The part about no one squeezing your glutes if you don’t is… something, as well.

    • anon

      Yeah, I don’t get that one at all. I’d rather be a workhorse than a show pony any day?

    • Anon

      I’ve never done these workouts but I’m guessing it has to do with gait – so don’t plod, prance?

      • Anonymous

        It’s the female equivalent of male body-building except on a stationery bike. I do not understand the appeal of it, but it seems to speak to the “what doesn’t kill me makes me stronger” people, another not particularly appealing sentiment.

        • Anon

          Wait, you lost me. What is the female equivalent of male body building and how and what does it have to do with show ponies vs workhorses?

    • pugsnbourbon

      “Kick your own ass” is so, so funny to me for some reason.

      Like, I’m about to fight and I scream “You think you’re gonna kick my ass? I’ll kick my own ass!” as a way to assert dominance?

      • Vicky Austin

        Oh my gosh, same. I always think of it like “you’re so ready to fight that you will kick your own ass if, indeed, that is the only ass available? Let me get my popcorn.”

      • Anon

        No, it’s about training. If you kick your own a$$ during training, you will get stronger.

        • pugsnbourbon

          Oh I know what it’s supposed to mean, it’s still a hilarious thing to say.

    • Never too many shoes...

      I think the whole thing is kind of awful. Like the lululemon bags – drink water! Oxygen is the best! Money is not Important (as long as you can afford our $100 yoga pants).

  5. Anonymous

    Somebody commented on the morning thread that you can’t leave a FOURTEEN YEAR OLD alone during the day without risking someone calling CPS. Tell me that’s a joke, right? At fourteen, I’d been babysitting for several years, including a family with three kids (two of whom were still in diapers). And I’m not a boomer, I’m in my late 20s. Has the world actually changed that much, or was that the rhetoric getting hyped up in a fairly heated thread?

    • Anon

      You can leave a preteen alone while you run an errand for sure, but 50-60 hours/week every week while the parents are at work is a different story, and yes, I believe there are people who would call CPS on a parent leaving a 13 or 14 year old alone all day every day, five days a week for an entire year. It’s not reasonable imo but a CPS investigation is not something you want to risk, especially if you’re not white.

      • Anonymous

        A 14 year old is not a preteen, literally by definition. Right there in the name.

        • AIMS

          Also, the fact that there are people out there who would call CPS, doesn’t mean that you can’t. There are crazy people out there. I have a friend who thinks multiple of her neighbors have committed some crime or another. They didn’t and she’s prone to fantasy and she has considered calling the cops multiple times and none of that means anything other than maybe we all watch too much TV as a society.

        • Anon

          Right I understand that. I said you can leave even a preteen (10-12 or so) alone while you run errands. That doesn’t imply you can leave a young teen like 13-14 year olds alone all day every day. In my city the police would be called if parents had no childcare for a 13 or 14 year old during the summer.

          • Anon

            I guess I should also say the police would be concerned and take it seriously. As AIMS said, anyone can call the police for anything so that doesn’t mean much. But I believe in my city they would at least initiate a CPS investigation about a 13 or 14 left home alone all week.

          • Anon

            Your city is wild. 14 year olds are totally old enough to be alone during the day. Just because something isn’t ideally developmentally appropriate does not warrant intervention from the state.

          • Anonymous

            Wow that seems crazy to me! In my city, most 14 year olds are home alone during the summer! There are literally no summer camps that go up to that age and they are too young to work most jobs, so home alone is the only choice if both parents work.

    • Pure Imagination

      Wow, seriously? I missed that, but that’s crazy! I’ve heard about that happening to plenty of kids under the age of 10 (still not cool, especially when it’s racist and/or classist), but 14 is a whole other level.

      FWIW, I’m 31 and I babysat kids in diapers at that age too (with no cell phone and in a town 40 minutes from the nearest medical care to boot). More states need to follow Utah’s lead and pass free-range parenting laws.

      • Anonymous

        No the point was you can’t just make all high schoolers do distance learning unsupervised for a year.

        • anon

          Yes, I think there’s a huge difference between leaving teens/kids at home to run an errand or even a night out and leaving a 14 year old home alone all day every day for 50 hours a week for a year.

      • anon

        As parent I hope there is more to this story (like a neighbor who knew you were home with the baby and could assist in an emergency). The idea of a 14 year old babysitting an infant with no way to seek medical attention if necessary is pretty terrifying to me and I’m a pretty free-range anti-helicopter mom.

        • Pure Imagination

          There was a landline available, but we were frequently playing outside, etc., and I would not have been able to make a call instantly. It wasn’t unsafe.

          • Pure Imagination

            Run to the house and made a call on the landline to 911, of course.

          • Anon

            To the posters who are shocked, this is what responsible adult parents did before cell phones too. People taking care of kids didn’t stay cooped up in the house so as to be near our landlines.

          • anon

            I was concerned about the lack of ability to drive somewhere if needed. I babysat starting around age 11 but always a neighbor or someone knew I was babysitting and was available for an emergency that didn’t require 911, like if a kid fell and needed stitches and needed to go to a doctor/hospital but didn’t need an ambulance to take them.

    • Anonymous

      In my state, you can’t leave a kid under 12 with a younger kid. We are almost there. I would leave my kids for hours but not a full day but want to work on how they feed themselves (esp how to cook with food safety and fire safety in mind) and deal that an urban house where we have magazine sellers and some sketchy types knocking on doors (my kids are naive and could open the door and say no adults are home because they are honest to a fault).

      Luckily my older kid is taller than me so is perceived as at least a teen given early puberty (good for this bit has brought out the creeps).

    • Anonymous

      That is legit crazy pants. I had a job and a bus pass and was basically a mini adult at 14. My parents left me home alone all summer and I made lunch without problem. I would even have friends come over and swim (I was a highly skilled swimmer, though not officially a lifeguard…yet).

      • anon

        Yeah, times have really changed and there are definitely people who would call CPS on parents who did what yours did.

    • Anon

      That thread was ridiculously hostile. I wouldn’t take anything someone said there as gospel.

      • anon

        Right. This. Someone referred to someone else’s child as their “brat daughter” for no reason except to be mean and awful. But, more importantly, Anonymous at 3:13 is right. After school for a few hours? Sure. But you can’t reasonably leave a 14 year old (and we all know they vary wildly in maturity) home for 50 hours a week indefinitely and expect them to also diligently do all of their school work and not get into any trouble.

        • anon

          There were some hostile posts on that thread for sure (the “brat daughter” felt particularly uncalled for) but I don’t think the poster who made the point that leaving a 12-14 year old home alone could result in a call to CPS was being hostile, I think that’s a very rationale concern.

        • Anonymous

          I’d worry about a lot more pregnant teens if they were all largely unsupervised during the daytime for a whole year. Not every teen, but just given a lot more easy opportunities, that would seem bound to happen. I mean, it happens for actual adults 9 months after blizzards.

          • Anon

            Yep. And dr*g use as well. So much more tempting to get into that stuff when you have huge swathes of unstructured time stretching out in front of you and no adult supervision.

          • Anon

            You are grossly underestimating 14 year olds. I was basically a latch key kid. I graduated top of my class. I did occasionally drink and smoke weed, but I was a great kid. I also procured myself some condoms and subsequently birth control to prevent unwanted children.

          • Anon

            If you graduated at the top of your class, by definition you weren’t a typical teenager. Of course there are smart, responsible kids who smoke pot and have sex and turn out fine. But there are a lot of kids who are really struggling with school, aren’t nearly as responsible as you were, or don’t have a lot of financial or emotional family support, who are likely to get into less than ideal or even dangerous situations staying home all day without adult supervision. The original discussion was in the context of online learning for the next academic year. We’re not talking about one mom choosing to let her teen – that she knows to be hard-working and responsible – stay home. We’re talking about all kids having no school to go to, which is a very different thing. You were fine. A lot of kids wouldn’t be.

        • Anon

          I thought the idea was there would be real time instruction so there would be attendance and a child’s absence would be noticed. They wouldn’t be unsupervised per se. They would be virtually supervised by a teacher.

      • LaurenB

        Not to be stupid, but where is that thread? I seem to have missed it as well. Is it under the gray ombre t-shirt post?

        • Anon

          You’re better off not knowing!

          By the way, someone seems to be following you around making hostile comments at you – very brave of them to do so behind an anonymous handle.

          (Which I type from my own anonymous handle, but I used to have a regular name until someone did the same to me.)

    • Senior Attorney

      And again I missed the hostility on the morning thread. Good grief.

    • Anon

      I’m the person who made that comment. My comment wasn’t hostile. I was just saying that it’s an additional reason why another whole year of online learning isn’t an easy solution, even for junior high and high school students. My state technically requires children to be 14 before they can stay home alone. I believe it’s one of the most conservative states on this and I know plenty of people who ignore that rule, but I also think there’s a really big difference between occasional staying home alone (or babysitting) and being home alone all day every day while your parents are at work.

      As a parent, I actually feel more comfortable with babysitting because the teenager has a specific job and responsibility for others. A lot of teens will step up when they need to take care of someone else but will get up to no good if they’re just supposed to be entertaining themselves (it’s so easy for boredom to set in and lead to bad decisions). And I don’t think a few worksheets from school will stave off that boredom in most kids. Again, I’m not saying there’s no 14 year old who could effectively and independently do online learning, but we need to worry about all kids, but just the most responsible and independent.

      • Anon

        I had a retail job at 14. I find it laughable that any state thinks a high school student can’t stay at home alone. I agree there are a lot of reasons that may not be best, but I also know that lots of middle school and high school students spend the summers at home alone because they parents can’t afford camps when the kid is old enough to to be able to stay at home without killing himself during the day.

        • Anon

          You may find it laughable, but the law is the law where that poster lives. What, exactly is your suggestion? That she risk arrest and her kids being taken by CPS because you think the law is dumb and that should be the way she protests it?

          In my city there is a city ordinance in place that children under 12 cannot be left alone for any amount of time, for any reason. Generally the cops do not cite people but they do an automatic referral to child protective services, and dealing with one of those investigations is way worse than going to court to protest the citation. No one wants to bring that down on themselves if they can avoid it. I am not going to ride the lightning of a CPS investigation to protest what I think is a dumb law (I started babysitting at 12 myself) just to make a point.

          • anon

            This. I wish this wasn’t the case but the law is the law and I’d personally not be willing to be the test case.

          • Never too many shoes...

            Anon can you explain how that works? Are 12 year olds also not allowed to walk to school alone? Or go to the mall or the movies or take the bus to their friend’s house?

        • Anon

          At a job you have a supervisor. They’re not watching you every minute but they’re generally aware of your behavior and they know if you don’t show up for work. You’ll get fired if you’re repeatedly late or goof off. You have co-workers for social structure. While you’re at work you can’t do dr*gs or get knocked up or get in a violent fight or do any of the undesirable things teenagers tend to do when left alone all day with no supervision. A retail job actually provides a lot of structure and supervision, and I just don’t see “I had a retail job at 14” as an argument for why teens should be allowed to stay home full time with no adults around.

      • anon

        I see your point, but there is also a difference between a teen home alone with school work to be done, vs. a teen home alone over summer break, with endless time on their hands to get into mischief.

        • Anon

          My kids are younger, but my understanding from comments here and real life friends is that the online schoolwork is really minimal and doesn’t take anywhere near the whole day, so there is still a ton of unstructured time, just like there would be in the summer. I’m sure it varies by school district though.

          • Anonymous

            My large SEUS city school system is supposed to be giving kids 2 hours of work a day. It takes my kids 40 minutes. One is a big of a minimalist with working to the letter of a request. The other is a stickler. Same for each. There is no instruction, just online worksheets.

      • Anon

        Right. Almost all 14 year olds can be left alone to make themselves mac and cheese for dinner, but that is a far cry from saying that all 14 year olds can be left home alone for 50 hours a week for an entire school year. Some have mental illnesses. Some may live in households with a violent family member. Some just need the structure of having an adult around. Some will invite their friends over and have parties, all day every day.

        That doesn’t even get into the issues of managing online learning for several children when there is, for example, only one working computer.

        • Anon

          Wish I could edit to add this: special needs kids. Not an expert in that area, but giving ‘quality online instruction’ to teenagers is challenging enough, let alone when they have learning disabilities, need accommodations, or have other problems that interfere with their ability to process online instruction. It’s incredibly ableist to assume otherwise.

        • Anonymous

          I feel like every single one of these objections also applies to many, many adults (may have mental illnesses, may live with someone violent, may need structure provided by someone else, may invite friends over and have parties all day, every day).

      • AIMS

        Illinois?

        Because if so, it seems more subtle than stated: https://www.illinoispolicy.org/leave-your-13-year-old-home-alone-police-can-take-him-into-custody-under-illinois-law/

        (Short story: key words are “unreasonable period of time” and without “regard for the mental or physical health, safety or welfare” of the child, which is, yes, subjective, and I can see why the risk averse women of this board would take seriously but would probably not be an issue in most situations).

        • Anon

          Not OP but I live in IL and I think it’s generally interpreted the way she suggested. There’s case law that you can leave a middle schooler for an hour or two at a day, or all day in an unusual situation (eg., family emergency requires you to rush out you out of town and your backup childcare can’t get there until 8 hours later), but you can’t just plan to leave your kids at home with no childcare while you work until the youngest is 14. The law was designed to prevent exactly what posters here are suggesting – parents going to work for 40+ hours and leaving their junior high kids home alone.

          Also, even if the law is rarely enforced, it’s not really excessively risk averse to want to avoid breaking it and getting mixed up with CPS. Check out the Lag Liv blog about what a nightmare a CPS investigation can be even for innocent parents.

        • IL resident

          I live in IL and my cousin was indeed referred to CPS for leaving her 12 year old after school, watching a 6 year old for a few hours until mom and dad came home from work. It caused massive problems for our family that were way worse than whatever the neighbor who called the cops imagined would have happened to some kids watching tv for a few hours.

    • Anon

      You’d be shocked how different the world is now. Do I think it’s highly likely? No, but it’s not out of the realm of possibility.

    • Anonymous

      I was a latch key kid in grade school and was home alone all day in the summer and school vacations. Things have clearly changed since I was young!

      • Juliska

        I became a latchkey kid at age nine. Both of my parents worked during the day. My mother was usually the first one home, around 5:30 or 6:00 p.m. I didn’t like it, at first, but it gave me uninterrupted time to do my homework and then read. After my sister was born my mother stopped working and I actually found it hard to have no “alone” time.

    • crim lawyer

      I think it’s unfortunate that the threads here are often very hostile.

      Leaving a 14 year old alone is very much a know your kid situation. I certainly have clients who should not be left alone who are both younger and older than 14.

      At school the kid would have some supervision. No one for example would just say, hey kid, teach yourself all day today. If you can leave your kid alone for 8 hours a day and they will actually do homework and stay safe that’s awesome. Maybe be happy you can do that and be more compassionate to those who cannot.

      • Anonymous

        OP on this thread here — I really don’t know what you’re talking about when you personalize it and say “your kid” and suggest I be more compassionate. I was just surprised to read that. I grew up in a pretty suburban area. All of my friends came from 2 parent working households. We were all left alone all day all summer, and nobody blinked an eye. I was reacting with surprise, not lack of compassion.

      • Anon

        This x 1 million.
        My kid could be left alone for 8+ hours a day, at least a few days a week, and he would get work done and not burn the house down. He has a friend his same age with diagnosed ADHD who really can’t be left alone for very long at all. His parents are working on it but it’s a process. I don’t care how things were in 1964 or 1974 or 1984 or 1994 or 2004 when people on this board were 14, THINGS ARE DIFFERENT NOW (yelling for the people who apparently can’t hear the message) and there is no one-size-fits-all solution that works for every kid/every family.

        • Anonymous

          Help me understand why, please. This comes from a place of genuine curiosity. What’s different from 15 years ago that makes it less safe for a 14 year old in 2020 than in 2004? We arguably have more/better safety measures. People had ADHD in 2004.

          • Pure Imagination

            It’s objectively more safe to be a kid today than at any other time in history, but parenting norms and expectations have obviously changed dramatically.

          • Anonymous

            My guess: more mothers were at home in 2004. Or for old people who make laws, more women were at home when they were kids. So even if you were a latchkey kid, the next house down had a mom or homemaker in it during the day where you could run to if in trouble or if your parents didn’t come home. And moms then were home, not running around to elite sports, etc. they way at-home moms aren’t even at home now.

            At any rate, the world uses middle school kids as sitters. Some of them are very responsible. I have a book-smart kid who is a rule follower and if someone knocked on the door her natural tendency is to open it, which isn’t something to do if you are home alone — she really can’t conceptualize bad people the way I know they exist.

            Another thing now is that many more kids are only children. If you have >1 kids, the risk of one ratting out the other can sometimes be a deterant to bad behavior. And also if you have more than one kid, that can be a deterant to some creepy strangers.

          • anon

            Agree 100% with Pure Imagination, it’s not that the world is less safe, it’s the social norms/changes that make things different. Also, there’s a lot more information readily available so even though the world is objectively safer, it doesn’t always feel like that as a parent since it seems like every day (every hour?) there’s a new story about the most recent product/practice/whatever that has been around for decades that’s been deemed unsafe because an injury/death halfway across the country can easily become a huge news story in a way that just wasn’t a thing even 15 years ago.

          • Anon

            For all the people without kids who are living in some kind of alternate reality where nothing that happens in the real world can penetrate through the haze: the advent of social media, YouTube, etc. means that the dumb mistakes all of us made as teenagers before, say, 2010 are now dumb mistakes teenagers make now are things that can get broadcast around the world and follow a person for the rest of their lives online. And guess who is watching in the audience for YouTube and broadcast news that includes literally everyone in the universe? Law enforcement, which now thanks to draconian laws passed regarding child offenders has the ability to put 14-year-olds (and in some cases younger children) in detention for things that formerly would have been regarded as childish pranks. I am sorry you have been paying literally no attention to literally anything that has happened in American society over the past 15 years. That must make the rest of your life really difficult to manage. Society is only “safer” if you count kidnapping, rape and murder as the only bad things that can happen to a child.

        • Anonymous

          I’ve been supporting myself since I was 14. Things aren’t that DIFFERENT NOW. People still don’t see what they don’t want to see.

          • Anonymous

            Well, people should hire you to teach their failure-to-launch adult siblings all your secrets. But no matter how old you are, that is wildly outside of the mainstream unless you were a child star or truly needed to work (and since the US has working paper rules, it is unlikely that even a working 14 year old would cover their costs once you add in housing). My parents grew up very poor and working on farms and they helped with costs but weren’t likely true positive in light of their costs.

          • Anon

            I’m sorry that that happened to you and I hope you understand that making a 14-year-old responsible for supporting themselves is not normal and someone should have intervened to help you. I hope you also understand that it’s tempting, when empathy was not shown to you when you were a child, for you not to have empathy for others. I don’t think you want to be that person/in that place.

        • crim lawyer

          K. I wasn’t particularly frustrated with OP, sorry it came off that way.

          I have clients with very serious eating disorders, clients with drug issues and clients who are vulnerable to exploitation who are under 18. I have clients who have regular medication they should be taking they may not want to take and clients who have school, counselling or treatment followup they should do on webcam that they may not do if left alone.
          I also have clients who have anxiety issues, self harm issues and siblings/family the should not be left alone with for long periods of time.
          Many of my clients would be fine left alone. However the potential for harm is there if they are alone all day. The potential for someone knowing they are there alone and exploiting them is also there.
          This is a know your kids situation. I have friends who have kids that they know they cannot leave for eight hours a day. I have clients who if left alone all day would leave the house immediately.

          I have no idea what happened in ye olden days. I imagine a lot of terrible things happened to vulnerable kids.

          And no, we can’t stop everything or be everywhere but we can try. We can also set kids up for success instead of failure.

        • LaurenB

          There’s zero reason to assume more mothers were home in 2004 vs today. As one of The Olds who routinely babysat my 6 yo sister when I was 14, mothers in those days were certainly not always at home. During the day, they were at book club, or garden club, or playing tennis, or visiting grandma, and they didn’t have cell phones, and if the school needed them? Well, gasp, they’d just have to keep calling til she got home (no answering machines either til the mid 1980s). And on Saturday nights, they went out with dad to a movie or fancy restaurant and again – no cell phones, so they didn’t check up.

          As much as I wouldn’t personally want to leave a 14 yo home all day every day, it’s probably a lot safer today than it was back in the day. We didn’t have security systems back then, and we didn’t have the ability to text / call instantaneously.

          • I Must Be A Dinosaur

            Sounds like you grew up in a Hollywood movie. I don’t know anyone whose mother was in a book club or garden club or played tennis. Our moms all worked. And nobody’s parents went to fancy restaurants on Saturday nights. Saturday nights, we rented a movie (VHS!) from the local video store and ordered pizza.

            Same thing with summer camps. Nobody I know ever went to summer camp. We all stayed home while our parents worked. We didn’t get into trouble (much) because we had the fear of God put into us. My mom in particular left a list of things that needed done every day before she got home, plus what supper was going to be that night so we could get a start on it for her. If things weren’t done and supper wasn’t started when she walked in the door, there was serious hell to pay. Funny, I haven’t seen a single poster here mention giving kids CHORES to do while they’re home. Of course, this is a board where people have had to ask how to clean, so apparently doing chores is something from the olden days?

            Maybe if we start giving kids chores and teaching them responsibility, we wouldn’t have to worry about leaving them home alone and having the neighbors call CPS on us.

    • Anon

      This is so odd– I am 30. When I was 14, I regularly babysat kids during the summer and on weekends. When I was 7, our babysitter was 13. I routinely stayed home with my brother all summer, and we fed ourselves/didn’t get into any trouble.

      I don’t even understand what you expect people to do with their middle school kids in the summers during normal times. Our school system had after school care for middle school kids, but summer daycare ended at 5th grade. I did some camps during the summer, but honestly, most camps are not really geared towards middle school kids. Both of my parents worked, so I was home by myself and so were most of my friends.

    • Anon

      I do think things are a little different now. But I also think there’s a huge difference between babysitting or working retail, and staying home alone all day. Just as one data point, I grew up in the Midwest in the 1980s. There was a law that you couldn’t work most W-2 jobs until 16, but I had a lot of friends babysitting for non-family members around ages 12-13. I had no interest in babysitting other people’s kids but I stayed home alone with my younger sibling from age 10 or so. But I was never allowed to be home alone for weeks on end. In the summers, I generally did day camps until 15 (summer after 9th grade) and then summer jobs from 16-18. My parents trusted me not to burn down the house or do anything awful, but they thought that sitting around being bored and doing what I would have done without a job (reading books and playing video games) wasn’t healthy or optimal for my development, and now that I’m an adult I agree. I was a responsible kid, and my parents weren’t helicopter parents (they let me backpack Europe solo at 18, and sent me to college 3,000 miles away with nothing except money and a plane ticket home for Christmas), but they just didn’t believe that being alone in the house all the time was good for kids. Being comfortable with your young teen babysitting or working retail jobs doesn’t necessarily translate to being comfortable with them being home alone all the time.

    • Seventh Sister

      I know people who never leave their 14yos unattended (because they are nuts/have too much time on their hands) but no, I’ve never heard of anyone actually getting in trouble for this anywhere in my city. If the parents were out of town for multiple days and the kid set the house on fire, maybe someone would call CPS.

  6. Anon

    I’ve heard great things about Peloton for social distancing, but decorating with words is a hard nope from me ?

    • No Longer Anon

      This. Also, “I make suggestions, you make decisions” What? Is this what a peloton instructor says? I’m so confused.

      • anon

        Yeah, these are things they say. That one means that you are in charge of your workout. He suggests how fast to go but you decide.

        • Nemo

          Actually, that suggestions vs. decisions thing is perfect for attorneys talking to clients.

          • No Longer Anon

            And yes, I say that (or some variation on that) to my clients regularly. And “I can’t decide for you” and “You’re the decision maker.”

        • No Longer Anon

          Ohhh. Ok. That makes more sense, with the context. I thought this poster was some sort of, idk, women empowerment thing from peloton? And it seemed like a strange thing to say for that.

    • Sarabeth

      Especially these words. I actually really love their running workouts, but when they start up with the motivational catchphrases I take my earplugs out.

      • Monday

        I went to Soul Cycle once, and the instructor was basically rapping. (He was a white surfer-type dude.) It was a great workout, but I was surprised at how seriously people seemed to take his rap/sermon about how to live life. I can see why people have likened fitness classes to tent revivals.

        • Anonymous

          That’s funny you say that because I stumbled into a soul cycle and my America studies brain basically short circuited on the bizarre cultural/ religious mashup being lapped up by a very homogeneous-looking group of women. And the hierarchy of where your bike is?

          I think I was halfway through a thesis proposal by the time I left that place and someone reminded me it was a workout. I didn’t think tent revival but it’s pretty perfect! Someone smarter than me needs to write about this because it says a lot about a yearning for community religion and structure that this is a thing in modern life.

    • Airplane.

      Agreed! I can’t be the only person who finds this tacky and cringeworthy. I’m of the of the mind that your house is your house, and I’m sure there are things I like that others hate and I’m FINE with that. No to decorating with words. And no no no, you couldn’t pay me to hang this up.

      • AIM?

        I hate almost all message posters, tee shirts, “art” & I’d say this is up there with the worst offenders.

      • Anonymous

        I went to a restaurant once that had a sign up that said “masticate.” This is the only use of word art I can approve of. Just once I want Chip and Joanna Gaines to hang a giant “fuck” sign in a bedroom they remodel next to the giant clock.

      • Anon

        My cousin was part of an MLM that sold these stick-on words you could put on your walls. They were awful. All the word art reminds me of those.

        Though I will admit, in my kitchen there is a small plaque in my windowsill that says “this may be the wine talking, but I love wine.”

  7. Anonymous

    These posters are atrocious. Body hating nonsense. Can’t believe you’re promoting them

    • jnon

      how is this body hating? this is also one of the most chill, supportive, team oriented coaches on the platform. Keep in mind the instructor might say one of these in a 45 minute class. I think you are taking it a little too seriously.

  9. Nnew realm of WTFery

    I just heard that the mayor of my crystal-healing, homeopathy-loving, home town is peddling UNTESTED HOMEMADE “VACCINES”. wtf???

  10. Need work advice re conflict

    Hi, I could really use some advice from the sharp ladies here. Here is what happened:

    – My internal finance group was pulling together an early estimate for a project that I supported.

    – I provided my thoughts to Finance Partner in email form. Key points and risks.

    – I spent 30 minutes in a subsequent meeting explaining my thoughts to Finance Partner.

    – Finance Partner essentially ignored my inputs, included none of my feedback in the white paper estimate. Finance Partner decided to include a single cost estimate – a number – with no commentary or qualification as to assumptions (all of which I outlined for them).

    – Fast forward 6 months later: Project cost is 2x early estimate. Leadership are angry because the white paper provided a single number, which they thought was “the cost.”
    It is being put on me that I didn’t comment to the “final” white paper that was circulated…while I was in surgery.

    I am angry because I made time to outline everything via email and phone and was ignored. How many times and in how many ways did I have to provide inputs in order to be heard? How is it my fault when people do not listen to me?

    I have a meeting on Wednesday to discuss the mess with my boss. How should I approach this?

      • anon

        I would forward the email to everyone who will attend this meeting before the meeting, and bring hard copies. I would also bring evidence that I was in surgery when the white paper was circulated. My theme would be, “I did everything within my power to give my input in writing and verbally before the white paper was finalized. Let’s discuss process moving forward so that my input is valued.” I would convey this in a “clearly we want to improve as a team” kind of way. I would not concede to doing anything wrong.

    • Anonymous

      Go to the meeting to see with your boss with all of the hard copies of your original work, even if not in finalized presentation form, as well as the sent email and any other supporting documentation that you did the work and made the accurate recommendations. Not much can be done about the phone call but with that and the time you logged for being out of the office on surgery should provide sufficient evidence you did your part. Once it is determined that your finance partner made the omission, it should lift the issue of your lack of input or qualifying the mistake (which I’m taking to be the single digit estimate without the qualifications and assumptions). In finance, the support for the numbers is half the battle, so if your partner left that out, that’s on him/her, not you, as the responsible party.

      Here’s the further step you can take up with your boss: if management is looking looking at project costs or whatever big issue there is only on a 6-month basis, there’s a bigger problem. This type of thing should be reviewed on a monthly basis in some form of budget reviews, whether formally or informally, for projects and/or teams, and on a quarterly basis, at a minimum. That not only takes the blame away from you, and perhaps, if it’s legitimate, your project stakeholders, but focuses on the potential real problem on the lack of proper financial management controls. If you actually work in a financial capacity, presenting a strategic framework to implement future risk factors would really put you ahead in your performance review and if you are part of the solution to future changes or recommend a solution, it could put you on the map for a promotion, higher bonus pool, or whatever other career-advancing move.

  11. BB

    Are these supposed to be quotes from Peloton instructors? I’m a huge Peloton fan but don’t recognize any of these! My favorite is Hannah Marie Corbin though, and I have totally memorized some of her catchphrases. “Don’t compare your chapter one to anyone else’s chapter twenty!” “Sometimes you have to measure your progress by how much fun you’re having!”

    • anon

      I also love Hannah. Personal favorite is “your body isn’t Amazon Prime, it’s not going to show up in 2 days”. These are all Dennis quotes

  12. Laura B

    I’m meh on the poster suggested, but I downloaded the Peloton app and have been using it every day for two weeks since they went to a 90 day trial for April, and I LOVE IT. I don’t have the bike or treadmill, wouldn’t use the bike or treadmill anyway, but I really like the strength, core, and yoga workouts A LOT. Music is a huge motivator for me, and I really love the real music. The outdoor audio running workouts/playlists look really cool too (20 min 90s run? fun!) – alas I hate running so will not be trying them :D – but they also have power walk workouts. I also really liked the “scheduled workouts” – which I’m assuming are normally live when they have the studios open – right now they’re all encore versions. Nothing happens if you don’t make it to your scheduled workout (I don’t think anyway) but having the time set is motivating and helps me avoid looking at 132 workouts before deciding on one. I probably sound like a big fangirl, but I kinda am right now – it’s probably my favorite thing of April 2020. Definitely recommend downloading, at least for the free 90 days!

  13. Anon

    Wanted to wish a happy Easter to those of us who celebrate on the oft-forgotten Orthodox calendar. I hope it was a lovely one, even if not with your loved ones!

    We livestreamed church and felt ambitious starting at 10:30 only for “midnight” to be an hour early! Express church for the win!

    • Never too many shoes...

      Christos anesti! I had lamb and ate red eggs. That’s as far as I go but yet we always do it.

  14. NOLA

    I still haven’t heard from the bike shop who were supposed to be building my bike for me a week ago. My knee is a lot better and I’m wondering if I overreacted in buying the bike. I’m not sure how much I would use it after this and I don’t intend to become a cyclist. Then again, it might be nice to have a bike at Mardi Gras or other times when parking is an issue, or to have a way to get to work without my car. Should I call and cancel?

    • Anonymous

      No. You ordered it. I’m sure it will come in. It’s been a week. Chill

      • NOLA

        Well it was in stock and just needed to be assembled. The guy said Wednesday or Thursday and I have heard nothing from them. It’s just a lot of money and I’m having second thoughts.

        • ThirdJen

          It’s peak bike servicing time of year around these parts and all of our shops are backed up and out of parts – have you called to follow up?

      • Pure Imagination

        This is a weird response, but NOLA, if you don’t intend to become a cyclist, why are you buying it? It doesn’t sound like you really need a custom bike if you just want to do occasional leisure rides.

        • NOLA

          I’m buying it because I am trying to figure out how to exercise when I can’t buy exercise equipment and I messed up my knee trying to run. The PA who gave me a shot in my knee suggested it and recommended this shop.

      • ThirdJen

        I’d like to hear more of your thoughts on this – why eliminate an entire sport?

      • Anon

        Senior Attorney- while I agree, that doesn’t mean- don’t cycle. Aren’t you a cyclist yourself?

        • Senior Attorney

          I have pretty much given it up after witnessing one bad accident too many. Honestly I wouldn’t advise somebody to take it up if they have other things they could do for exercise.

          • Senior Attorney

            To elaborate, my husband LOVES cycling and I would never ask him to give it up, even after he cracked his skull and almost died about a year and a half ago. That said, for me the cost/benefit analysis absolutely does not justify the risk — I can take it or leave it and I choose to leave it after witnessing his accident and another really gory one last summer on vacation.

          • Pure Imagination

            You do you, but everything is dangerous. For every bike crash, there’s probably 1,000 amazing rides that felt great and contributed to health and happiness. Can we say that for cars, which lead to more frequent and deadlier crashes but that aren’t really fun for most of us?

          • Anon

            I’m not saying people shouldn’t cycle, because I think everybody absolutely needs to make their own decisions, but one of the reasons why cycling is so scary is because the dangerousness is very much out of your control. You can’t control the idiot drivers.

      • NOLA

        Cycling is definitely dangerous here. Only the main roads are smooth enough to not kill yourself in a pothole and people drive like a-holes.

      • Anon

        I agree. I’m in an urban area and a fair number of people cycle here, but a fair number of people are also killed by cars every year. And you don’t even hear about those merely maimed. In any car vs bike accident, the car is going to win, no matter how good of a cyclist you are.

      • jnon

        no more dangerous than anything else. Running is very dangerous. Our governor is paralyzed from the waist down because he was hit by a tree that fell while running. My sisters closest friend from college was killed 4 years ago when she was struck by a car while running by a driver that was not paying attention. Cycling is dangerous, as is being in a moving vehicle or flying in airplanes. But no more dangerous than any other physical activity.

    • Amelia pond

      There’s lots of places other than the road to cycle in New Orleans! Audubon park, city park, the levees! I don’t ride on the street any more since I got a car, but I love riding the Mississippi River levee in early evening, it is beautiful and safe.

      • NOLA

        Good point! I don’t know about the levee because I have never had a bike. The park is packed right now.

        • Coach Laura

          I cycle a lot and commute but here (outside Seattle) I’m almost always on a dedicated off-road trail or on a bike lane. The levee trail sounds good but how far do you have to bike on the city streets to get there? Or do you have to put your bike on the back of your car (which is a pain)?

          NOLA, if you don’t have much connection to other bikers and are new to road biking, an exercise bike at home or in a gym would probably be a better way to get a workout that is kind to your knees. Maybe you can cancel the order with just a restocking fee, if you call the shop.

          • SC

            You can park at many spots near a levee. You can get on a levee trail less than a mile from the general area where NOLA works.

          • NOLA

            If I could go to a gym, I wouldn’t be buying a bike! Our gym is closed and I don’t know when we’ll get back. I don’t have space for home equipment anymore. And SC is right, I actually live really close to the levee and that had just never occurred to me because I don’t know people who bike. Definitely something to explore! SC, thanks! I am going to look into it. Is there a trail on the levee by Ochsner? I asked the dude tonight if I should cancel and he said “call the shop and enjoy your new bike.”

      • NOLA

        Well, I don’t have a boatload of money, so that’s why I was freaking out. This wasn’t horribly expensive, as bikes go, but it also wasn’t Walmart, which was a total disaster. I need to go try bikes and buy one that would be assembled. I can’t afford the $2,000 exercise machine that would be what I really want/need.

        • Anon

          If you decide outside biking isn’t for you, you can buy a stand to turn it into a stationary bike. Bit more money upfront but you get the best of both worlds. Also, Google Maps is pretty good for plotting out bike-safe routes, and I’ve found that many neighborhood streets are almost deserted these days, which has made biking in my large east coast city much easier. Have fun!

    • J

      I LOVE biking and the feeling of freedom, especially now! Give it a go. I’m in NYC and while biking on the streets can be scary, with the reduction in traffic its been safer recently then my normal rides in the park (that is full of people).

      That being said, wear a helmet and make sure that you bike defensively (aka, let the cars and pedestrians win).

  15. Anon

    Did you ever think oil (or any other commodity or stock) would go negative? It’s just crazy right now. I’m kind of enjoying it, wondering what the consequences are long-term.

    • Anon New Yorker

      I just checked the news. WHAT is even happening right now. I… yeah.

    • Finally Made a Name

      I saw that and didn’t even know that was a thing, although I understand it has to do with storage.

    • Anon

      As an Alaskan, I’m terrified. We were already so f-ed and now we’re even more f-ed.

    • anon

      Glad I lateraled out of a firm where I worked with the energy litigation group…

    • anon

      when oil prices started to fall (before anybody in the US stayed home in early March), I was expecting the US govt to move around a lot of money to protect domestic oil and fracking interests. Now, I feel like all bets are off.

    • Anonymous

      It’s insane. I’m not at all enjoying it since the market turbulence is screwing me over bigtime, but it’s crazy. Reminds me of a few years ago, when sovereign debt were also negative. It’s so out of control that I can’t help but laugh and cry at the same time sometimes.

    • anon

      Some perspective – West Texas futures are negative today. That’s because there is no where to store the excess supply and no one to buy the futures. There will be bankruptcies in the region. Brent crude futures are still at $26 – unlike Texas and Oklahoma, they are storing excess supply on ships and other locations.

      • Anonymous

        Any major index going negative is a problem, so this isn’t really a perspective issue…

  16. ElectroGal

    Just found out the old house my mom, a nurse, recently bought does not have GFCI. She is a psych nurse and while she is working, she doesn‘t have the approx $3000 to put in the circuit breakers and outlets. I just lost my job, otherwise I‘d bankroll it, no question. She isn‘t home much and doesn‘t use appliances near the sink or tub. How dangerous is it to let this go for awhile?

    • Go for it

      Perhaps ask for an installment plan with a local electrician? A grant from her states energy program? Make some inquiries.

  17. shananaa

    So, there is a difference between the GFCI circuit breaker and GFCI outlets. What you need for your kitchen and bathrooms is the GFCI outlets. You could update the whole system to GFCI breakers, which would be like 3k, but in most old homes its just a matter of replacing the outlets with GFCI ones, and those cost like twenty dollars each. Even with paying an electrician to do it, you could do all your kitchen and bath outlets for like $400. I would talk to a few local electricians about what the minimum is that needs to be done to get it up to current codes.

    • ElectroGal says Thank You!

      Thank you so much!!! I really appreciate the help, you are right, and she doesn‘t need the breakers this instant.

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