Suit of the Week (and MASSIVE Deals at Brooks Brothers)

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1. Comments on the Brooks Brothers page say that the jacket and pants in this “suit” are not a match on fabric or colour, which is super disappointing. It looks like the jacket is wool and the pants are cotton.

   1. Well that’s not much of a suit then, is it?

   2. Looks like the skirt is wool.

2. MoMA has a really cool pop up store online (and maybe also in NYC) featuring design innovation specifically for women. It is really unusual and takes $ex toys into the mainstream in a way I have never seen before. There’s lots of interesting stuff including a bead necklace/bracelet that you cool in the freezer and then wear when you have hot flashes, tampons, pads, period info for girls, all kinds of stuff.

   1. God, I truly don’t care what people do re toys in the privacy of their bedrooms, but I don’t know why these need to be in the mainstream. There’s nothing wrong with discretion in one’s private activities.

      1. Debbie Downer strikes again

         1. How is that being a downer?

      2. Huh?

      3. Unpopular opinion, but I agree. I’m all for destigmatizing tampons and pads (completely separate issue), but I really don’t know why so many people are eager to tell me the details of their private activities. I don’t need to know which vibrator model you bought and whether it’s better than your last one and whether your new partner likes ___.

         1. I know! Is this just because there is not sports? I am not a sporty person and yet I like sports b/c there are a million human interest stories there if you spend a minute and they are all pretty G rated. Unless you are a pretty good friend of the R-rated chat sort, I don’t know why people think I’m remotely interested in those aspects of their lives.

         2. Newsflash- this is a museum exhibit not your chatty aunt cathy

         3. Beautiful straw man! That had nothing to do with the original post, congratulations.

            1. Congratulations on saying “straw man” … thousands of times. Super congratulations. Your straw man argument never rings hollow.

      4. Because a lot of the communication about sex is still loaded with shame and stigma, and you combat that with positive messaging. Being honest about sex, pleasure, and desire is healthy.

         Also we’re six months into a global pandemic and people are BORED

         1. Bored = how many affairs and secret families are going to be brought out into the open b/c of contact tracing?

            That is s*x chat I can get down with.

            1. LOLLL you joke but two people at my office were outed as having an affair because of contact tracing/positive Covid tests. One of them is married. I feel bad being so into the gossip but it’s the most interesting thing that’s happened in months, and I don’t even really know them.

         2. Those are opinions, not facts.

            I am open and honest with my husband about sex, pleasure, and desire, and he is with me. That conversation involves exactly two people: us. We really do not need nor want to have that conversation in front of the entire world to prove that there is no “shame” or “stigma” about it; that’s for terribly insecure people.

            1. Or for people who are just different than you! Literally no one is saying you have to share personal details you dont want to.

            2. I agree. It’s like the people on Instagram who post nonstop about how much they love their husbands and how he’s the #besthusband and how she’s a #luckygirl. I suspect that those are the most insecure relationships of all.

            3. It strikes me that your response is also opinion, yours.

               My suggestion is that you don’t go see the exhibition.

            4. Oh, did MoMA contact you to ask you to share details of your sex life for an exhibit?

               How on earth are people so confused here? No one’s asking you to talk about your personal life, no one, including MoMA, is making a comment on or sharing anything about your personal life. No one is saying you need to talk about your own sex life so that there’s no stigma. Holy straw man. MoMA is doing something that relates to sex in general.

            5. + 1, Anon at 4:20 pm.

      5. I don’t think you understand what “mainstream” means because you appear to think it’s the opposite of indiscreet.

         Regular vanilla s*x is mainstream, but you can obviously be discreet about your private vanilla s*x activities. Mainstream means widely accepted, normalized. S*x toys for women should be normalized and widely accepted (note that that does not mean they must be widely used — ie, no one is saying all women should use s*x toys) because their existence validates and serves women’s s*xuality. This is healthy and normal. Women should not feel shamed or treated as degenerates, or othered, for using s*x toys.

         1. Not wanting to hear about your toys does not mean we are “shaming or treating as degenerates women who use such toys. What an odd take.

      6. Lauren, I think you’re a little older than me but not much. That’s my knee jerk reaction but honestly it’s not how the younger generation thinks, and I agree with them philosophically.

         Sexuality and women’s body functions are nothing to be ashamed of, and I think it’s great that all of this is starting to be out in the open. Especially menstruation. I love that younger guys think nothing of keeping feminine supplies out in the open in the bathroom, as if they’re as ordinary and necessary as Kleenex and toilet paper. Because they are.

         More power to the young’uns.

         1. Actually, I disagree. I’ve found that some of the men who are the most performative about displaying tampons are the most regressive in the ways that count. Others may have had different experiences, but every man I know who wore a “This is what a feminist looks like” shirt was, without exception, an anti-woman assh*le or at the very least, misogynistic and in denial about it.

            1. +1 sadly. It’s like the dudes on dating apps who say they want a successful, independent woman – they don’t actually want that, they want someone who makes decent money but less than them and that will also defer to their important man job in all decisions. They are feminist in only the ways that are personally convenient to them (i.e. lip service only).

            2. Well, even if the guys are no good, the women should continue to be unashamed.

            3. The ones who talk the talk and walk the walk are out there.

            4. Are you the same person who makes this comment every time someone mentions that a man has indicated he is an ally to feminism? I am truly sorry for your dating experiences. My BF is very matter-of-fact about women’s health and also a genuine feminist, no matter how many times you come here to tell me.to look harder. Plus, sometimes encouraging certain behaviors eventually results in those becoming a norm even if a few people initially engage in the behavior as a ploy.

            5. Feminist guys definitely do exist! They’re just generally not the ones going around like they expect a medal for it.

         2. I think it’s sad that you both turned this into a commentary on the dating pool rather than acknowledging the main point, that women’s bodily functions and sexuality are out in the open and not shameful.

            ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

            But sorry about your sh1tty dates.

            1. Uh, you were the one that brought up dudes keeping tampons on the counter. Nothing sad about us young’uns pointing out that our experiences have been different, and it’s far more telling that you’re being condescending and insulting. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

         3. We’re pretty old and have an old house with a single bathroom. My husband doesn’t even notice that there is a tampon box out in the open 1 week/month.

            1. Not that old if you still need tampons! Ha.

      7. Wow srsly? Nothing wrong with a design museum featuring interesting design.

   2. Vibrators aside, that store is helpful in getting some Xmas shopping done!

3. Vicarious Couch Shopping Help Please!
   My current couch is quite shallow, firm, and has 3 cushions which get separated and it has been bugging me so much during COVID since I do almost everything from my couch. I’m looking for a deeper couch (43 inches seems to be on the deeper side of measurements) with one bench-style cushion. I like the look of the Z Gallerie Stella sofa, but I think the two cushions will separate and won’t fully fit what I want. Thanks in advance for any suggestions or anecdata!

   1. This one is only 38″ but it has the single bench cushion, which is hard to find. I have had good experiences with furniture bought from Macy’s.

      https://www.macys.com/shop/product/furniture-of-america-wainwright-upholstered-sofa?ID=10579669&CategoryID=29391&isDlp=true&isDlp=true

      1. Oops, I just noticed the price and that it only comes in white – probably not the best choice

   2. I ordered from Pottery Barn a deep seat couch with one bottom cushion: https://www.potterybarn.com/products/york-square-arm-deep-slipcovered-sofa-collection/?pkey=csofa&isx=0.0.934&cm_sp=2824-inbs. (I haven’t received it yet to comment more fully on it, but in the store which I visited briefly with mask on, etc., it felt fairly soft in a good way.) PB has other “deep seat” models.

      1. I covet this couch, alas my current one has a lot of time left on it.

   3. I absolutely adore my Crate and Barrel Lounge II 109” couch. It’s extremely deep and durable.

      1. So you vouch for the couch?

   4. OMG are you me?! I’ve been complaining like crazy (to myself, I live alone) for months about this very problem. So sick of falling into the cushion crack! I’ve also been looking at one cushion couches. Crate & Barrel and CB2 have some.

   5. You could get a local upholsterer to make you a single long cushion for your couch in a coordinating fabric if you like everything else about your couch. A coordinating seat cushion is definitely something shown in catalogs and magazines.

4. Does anyone know how Brooks Brothers shoes run? Eyeing up a few pairs.

   1. I have found the heels to run a bit short. I usually wear an 8 and size up to 8.5 at BB.

   2. I have a narrow heel for a normal width foot and I have some block heels that have been amazing. 8M foot 8M shoe. From several years back but still going strong. I thought they were excellent quality.

   3. Narrow but otherwise true to size.

   4. If it’s based on the shoes in the pic above, I am right there with you…not that I will ever get to wear them…boo.

   5. True to size, but the leather can be stiff, particularly the Red Fleece line.

5. Someone posted this morning about her concern re her dad’s symptoms and how he waited to go to a dr. Along the same lines how do you all “deal” with aging parents’ health stress — whichever it is whether they deny stuff and don’t go to doctors or whether they stress about every symptom and follow up with drs. all the time and tell you every detail. Meaning what do you do for YOU? My parents are getting to an age where this has become REALLY stressful; they are of the over sharing variety. I don’t want to write everything off as old age or anxiety but I also find myself stressing about things I shouldn’t even know — omg dad woke up 3 times in the night and normally it’s 2. I’ll take any tips. From deep breathing to literally anything else.

   1. I cared for my mom until her death from COPD. She was in both states – in denial and ignoring medical advice at first, then terrified toward then end. It didn’t help that her sister and closest friend died of the same disease in a horrific, terrifying way. (Basically suffocated before medical help could arrive.)

      It helped me to be empathetic. In my mom’s case, I acknowledge that both responses were because contemplating mortality and exactly how we are going to die are both very frightening. I find it frightening too. It’s the human condition.

      My parents were not perfect people. Once I accepted that and loved them despite their flaws, it was much easier.

   2. When my terminally ill parent was calling incessantly with minor issues, I would sometimes block their number for a few hours while I fed my young kids and put them to bed or in the morning while I fed them and got them to daycare. It really helped my stress level and helped me focus on the people who needed me most in that moment.

6. Has anyone tested positive for covid with a mild case? How did things progress for you? I only had a sore throat and a little nasal congestion over the weekend but got tested on Monday because Verily is offering it for free in my area. I expected I was being overly paranoid, but I just received positive results. I don’t know if I just have a mild case or symptoms will get much worse in the next few days.

   I don’t know where I got it from, but I did dine outdoors a few times which is allowed in my state, so that must be it. I’ve been working from home but have 2 housemates that go into work, although neither of them has any symptoms even as mild as mine. I’m quite embarrassed, please don’t flame me :(

   1. OP, all support and good thoughts to you, and I really, really, REALLY hate that you felt you had to add that last sentence. You are not guilty of something.

      1. + 1. Don’t feel like you are “guilty” of something, despite the negative comments on this board. I have known people who had covid (all lived in other states) and they definitely felt sick but just stayed home and rested. Don’t borrow tomorrow’s problems- the odds are you will only have a mild reaction (I am not discounting the seriousness of covid- stats are stats, most people recover on their own). Take care of yourself.

      2. +10000 there’s no shame in getting this highly contagious virus. I hope you feel better soon!

      3. Yes, totally agree. It’s been shown to be really difficult to catch the virus outdoors; OP, my bet is that you picked it up from one of your housemates who is asymptomatic. The NYT had a great article a few days ago about what exactly it means to have a “positive” test and reading that might help you. In any case, there is no need for you to apologize or feel guilty. I go to the grocery store once a week and I could pick it up there. My husband has to go into work for his job one day a week, he could pick it up there and bring it home. Most places have community transmission now, which means it’s out there and any of us could pick it up from any number of activities. It’s nothing to feel remorseful about. Getting the virus is not an indication you did anything “wrong” or that you “deserve” it, somehow. Please ignore anyone who tries to tell you that, here or elsewhere.

      4. A thought I’ve had a couple of times during all of this is how this feels a bit like an STD/STI. More people have it that you suspect, no one generally thinks it’s going to happen to them or their family/friends because of luck or precautions, and there is a whole lot of shame and confusion about exposure and positive results. Weird times.

         1. Ha, you’re so right. Also, that lends extra shudders to the term “d!ck nose.”

            1. I’ve never heard this expression & I doubt my life is improved for having seen it here. Keep doing the lord’s work.

         2. I mean maybe for you but I haven’t heard anyone except anxious people on here expressing that. In NJ everyone I know knows someone who had Covid. It’s sad not shameful.

            1. +1

            2. +1 in Mass

         3. I see your point, but overall, I don’t think it’s analogous. Any STIs you have concern you and your partner(s), but for this, transmission between you and your partners can also infect others. The whole “you can’t tell me what to do” approach to living life works okay for STIs (in consenting relationships where both sides know the risks), but not to a global pandemic of a respiratory illness.

            1. What did you gain out of making this post? I don’t think this helped the OP in any way. Second question, do you ever take a day off from posting about how the pandemic is bad?

      5. Agreed, and I believe that the shaming some heap on people who contract COVID is making people reluctant to disclose it to others, which contributes to spread. The truth is that all of us except those who are truly living no-contact lives are making decisions about what level of risk we can accept. I think it makes some people feel better and safer to assume that only irresponsible people get COVID, but while irresponsible behavior may raise risk, there is no such thing as a risk-free life (except, again, for people who truly aren’t leaving their homes or allowing anyone in).

         And in case you don’t believe that this is discouraging disclosure, we’ve already had to assure our onsite staff that they won’t be penalized for reporting a positive test.

   2. You should contact the restaurants (or ask your public health department for guidance on that) because the staff may have also been exposed. Your roommates should also not be going to the office. Feel better soon.

      1. Yes. You really do need to insist your roommates quit their jobs or find another place live (but continue paying their share of your place at least through tbe end of the lease, as they are contractually obligated to do).

         1. Cheer up, maybe one of them is the coworker you’ll be seated next to tomorrow … at work or on the subway. Or maybe one of them is your health care provider, child’s teacher, local grocer, waitress, etc.

         2. Excuse me?

         3. Or, you know, stay home with paid sick leave under the CARES Act. Just a thought.

            1. I read this as a blanket statement, not as a post-exposure measure.

         4. OMG, this response is completely crazy.

            1. I guess OP thinks her entire world will explode if people with known exposure take a test and/or stay home for a few days. She should stop being so afraid & paranoid.

   3. I don’t know why the assumption is that you got it at a restaurant while seated outdoors, and not that you got it from a roommate who is asymptomatic. You should call the restaurant, but your roommates should also get tested and stay home from work until they get results.

      1. +1

   4. No flaming here! I posted a few weeks ago about having mild COVID symptoms, but then I got a negative test (and no, for those asking, it is definitely not allergies – I never go outside and I’m on Allegra already).

      Anyway, my point is…there is a really helpful NYTimes article if you google “NYtimes COVID symptoms” that talks about what to watch out for in the first few weeks. What I learned was, if your symptoms don’t get worse for after 14 days (7-10 if you’re older/compromised), you’re very likely to be fine and will recover. But those first 2 weeks are key. I would totally get a pulse oximeter to monitor yourself if you can. They are all back in stock in most places now.

   5. Yes, very similar to you, and the congestion went away before I even got test results and I never worse. It’s very likely your roommates have it or had it right before you. I was literally making out and sleeping with my bf the entire time I should have been most contagious. He got tested after I received my positive test and his was negative…we assume it was either a false negative or I got it from him and his infection was already gone by the time he got tested.

      I don’t think you should be embarrassed about it, but some people are weird about it so you could keep it private (except obviously you have to tell people who may have been exposed). My bf’s roommates were very rude to me about it and annoyed about having to quarantine, even though I most likely got it through them (this was back when everything was closed and I literally saw no friends or family except my bf, while my bf’s roommates were having friends over weekly).

   6. It’s an airborne virus. You can get it any time you leave the house or interact with another person. Your roommates could have given it to you. No reason to be embarrassed. I had a super mild case, felt like crud for a couple weeks. Just take care of yourself and rest.

   7. Be well, OP! Take care of yourself.
      Eating outdoors isn’t entirely risk-free. Sounds like it could be any of the settings you described.

      1. Love the not-so-subtle subtle judgement here. Great job, Anon at 6:46.

   8. Commenters on this site: *flame anyone quarantining even slightly differently than them*

      Commenters on this site reacting to this post: “don’t be embarassed! Anyone could catch COVID! So not your fault!”

      OP, I hope your case stays mild and that you are back to normal in no time flat! I totally see why your last sentence was necessary in this forum, which is not always a kind and gentle place.

   9. OP, a doctor friend told me that things usually get bad within the first 5 days of symptoms appearing if they’re going to be bad. My guess is that you’re pretty much out of the woods or very close to it. Good wishes to you.

7. Has anyone found that as they get older they are very sensitive to sugar — and in fact it maybe screws you up for a few weeks after a sugar bomb? My son’s birthday was a few weeks ago and we ate a ton of cake, especially fondant icing because I made it and was covered in it. Since then my cravings have been really high as well as anxiety and restlessness. Just curious…

   1. Not sugar but I can’t overdo it on salt. I can eat soup / ramen weekly and only on an otherwise low-salt day (no cheese, commercial sauces, etc.).

      1. Same here with salt. I dropped 5 lbs of what I’d thought to be perma-bloat within a couple weeks after I quit traveling and eating out in March.

         1. As a fellow perma-bloat sufferer I am laughing so hard at this phrase!

   2. Fondant is not icing and you are not actually supposed to eat it.

      1. Unmmmm you can 100% eat fondant.

         1. You can if you really want to, but it’s not actually meant to be eaten. It is just for decoration. There is normal frosting under the fondant.

      2. yea TBH if i’m going to go on a sugar bender it’s not going to be for fondant

      3. ‘supposed to’ is implying that it’s not edible. Of course it contains nothing healthy or nutritious, but then you might as well skip the cake.

         1. It is technically edible, but it is not intended to be eaten. It’s just for looks. It’s like the garnish of curly parsley they used to put on restaurant plates. You could eat it, but ew gross.

   3. Yeah that’s not a thing at all. You’re anxious and randomly blaming it on sugar. Weeks ago cake is doing literally nothing to you.

      1. +1.

      2. Yup.

   4. I keep my body acclimated by eating some chocolate every day. Every day. But of course I don’t recommend it.

      1. Team daily chocolate, I do recommend!

         1. Thank you for your support lolk

   5. Sugar is addictive for me so if I have a lot, I keep wanting more–cookie dough, ice cream, etc. Once I’m back into a healthy routine I do not crave sugar anymore, and the though of eating frosting is nauseating. Now something like a kale smoothie sweetened with dates is super sweet and satisfying (yea kind of lame). It’s difficult for me to get used to but once i’m there, super easy to maintain. You could try completely cutting out anything with added sugar for a week and then see if it resolves. I haven’t noticed a correlation with age (yet).

      1. Or you could try not encouraging disordered eating to someone who clearly has anxiety issues.

         1. Yeah, there’s no need to punish yourself with a kale smoothie (vom) for having cake a few weeks ago…

            1. Aww I don’t agree with using food as a punishment :( but I totally get that it sounds disgusting. I swear that your taste buds can change and you become more sensitive to sweet/salty flavors..i’m not vegan but my family members who went that direction also noted the same thing

         2. Wow, this is a real overreaction to Kitten’s post. She was just explaining how sugar makes her want more sugar— this is really common and not at all controversial. My body also works just like that, and once I get my sugar consumption down, I don’t crave it as often and it is easy to maintain. Advising someone to cut out added sugar is also super, super common non-controversial advice, and she’s only suggesting that OP do it for a week to see if she feels better. Calling this disordered eating is completely over the top. And kale smoothies can absolutely be sweet and delicious, christ. She didn’t say kale blended with ice. Have you ever eaten a date?

            1. +1

         3. I think there is some truth to this. After I stopped eating unhealthy lunches (way too easy to go to the falafel cart) and switched to salads, I splurged on my old favorite after hitting a goal. It tasted too heavy and fatty to me since my mouth was used to lighter fare.

         4. I disagree that avoiding any foods with added sugar is “disordered” but given that +2/3 of Americans are overweight, I accept that it might not be a popular opinion.

            1. Oh great. Disordered and gratuitous fat shaming. Festive!

   6. No, but I’m far more sensitive to caffeine. I had to give up coffee in the mornings because it made my hands trembly.

   7. I don’t know what country you are in. In the US, a third of adults test as prediabetic, so it’s not at all unusual to have elevated blood glucose after a sugar bomb. If this seems possible, it may be worth getting a glucose tolerance test so that you can get your doctor’s advice on management.

      Elevated blood glucose wouldn’t cause symptoms for a few weeks as far as I know (often it has no symptoms). But my understanding is that it can cause temporary nerve damage, which can have longer lasting symptoms including anxiety. Vitamin B1 (in the form “benfotiamine”) has been studied as an intervention to help the nerves recover, and I’ve had success with it. It’s mostly been researched in diabetics, but prediabetics have many of the same issues.

      In some people, eating a lot of sugar at once can cause issues with gut bacteria (because of the ones which really thrive on sugar), which could persist for a while. Patients say this can cause cravings, and gut issues in general can have psychiatric symptoms though I don’t know about this exact scenario. I don’t know if this is a common issue; I’m more prone to reacting badly to sugar in this way because of some other conditions I have.

   8. YES, absolutely! Chiming in late just to let you know you’re not crazy ;) I can have 1-2 cookies per day (to keep the doctor away, of course ;)), but more than that and I get SUPER crabby and witchy. There is a direct correlation for me between sugar and a short temper.

8. Can someone report on the sizing of the Brooks Brother fox fur vest? At a discount from $4.5k to $1.3k, I think it’ll be a great addition to my Real Housewives Zoom calls and timeless enough to get some wears when the pandemic is over. Will post link separately to avoid moderation.

   1. https://www.brooksbrothers.com/Fox-Fur-Vest/WW00173,default,pd.html?dwvar_WW00173_Color=GREY&contentpos=15&cgid=Womens_sale_category

      1. Wow, talk about cruel

         1. I think the post is a joke. Sadly, the vest isn’t.

   2. Now *this* is the Zoom top we all need!

   3. Dated reference, but that’s BA. NA. NAS.

      I’d wear it with my vintage maxi dress and Chanel sunnies.

      I die.

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