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Our daily TPS reports suggest one piece of work-appropriate attire in a range of prices. ShopBop has a ton of great sales going on, including this silk ruffled blouse. This strikes me as a classic — yes it'll be in sometimes (like right now with ruffles) and out sometimes (I'm sure at least one commenter will call out “pirate!”), but ultimately this is a look that will swing back around every few years, so it' a good investment. I'd wear it with a gray pencil skirt and, perhaps, a textured, colorful blazer — purple velvet, perhaps. Was $187, now $93.50 at ShopBop. Parker Long Sleeve Ruffle Blouse Seen a great piece you'd like to recommend? Please e-mail editor@corporette.com with “TPS” in the subject line. (L-2)Sales of note for 9.30.24
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Nash
Pretty! Now someone pull the model’s shoulder back into its joint!
Sheila
I never wear white because I’m so pale and anything light coloured I own gets a stain after the second wear, but I do like a subtle ruffle. Honestly, I think the lack of ruffles at the cuffs downplays the pirate-y potential.
Lawgirl
First, to the purely superficial: Sister-girl’s modeling poses in the pics has me cracking up. Looks like “Miss Tyra” or “Miss. J. Alexander” needs to teach her a thing or two about working the camera. LOL. http://www.bvnewswire.com/2007/05/16/j/
Anyhoo, I Likes! Even with the Prince, Purple Rain, overtones. ;-)
Anon
Yessss! I immediately thought of Prince when I opened this. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.
surrounded by lawyers
This comment blends the Prince and Seinfeld references oh so gracefully.
anon-ny
very pretty, but looks very sheer (and I don’t think the model is wearing a bra).
L
Cute, but NMS. I have a bunch of button down shirts and I never ever wear them, just not as comfy as jersey tops!
LE
Interesting, I own one (1) button down shirt and wear it…well, never. I am exclusively a pull over/jersey/sweater type person. Just don’t look good on me and I don’t like them. I am always looking for nice tops that are not blouses.
Mac
I am the same way. As a pear shape, my clothes need to be somewhat tailored at the waist or else I just look like one big blob, and I find it hard to find button-downs that fit in both the waist and (moderately-sized) bust. Knit shirts are so much easier in terms of fit and care (since I also hate ironing).
coco
this one isn’t really a button down – but i also thought it was until clicking the link. still not as comfortable – or easy to care for – as jersey though.
YourFriendlyOfficeDragon
Does this look ever work for larger women? Any tips?
Anonymous
As to your question, I have no idea, but … LOVE your username. Just had to share.
chubanon
I think it depends on your shape. I’m a size 14-16, but i have a long hourglass shape and a teflon attitude about what I “should” and “shouldn’t” wear (aka I don’t care what people think). If I could ever find a shirt that simultaneously fit my bust and waist without looking tremendously oversized, I’d rock this. I look good in a pencil skirt. I don’t see this looking great on someone who is “rounder” or more apple-shaped, but I’m probably wrong. 75% of it is about how you carry yourself, after all.
anon
Have you ever tried having shirts tailored? I actually love the look of button shirts, but rarely find one that fits me right. I got the tailoring idea from reading here, haven’t tried it yet, but have a shirt ready to take to see what they can do. I have to buy them too big so the buttons don’t gap at the bust (and I’m not that busty!), then they are huge around the waist.
Lilly
I have a Talbots ruffled front silk shirt. I’m a generous DD and would greatly prefer to be smaller and so make an effort to minimize the appearance and presence of “the girls”. At first I wasn’t even going to try it on because I didn’t want extra bulk from the ruffles, but when I wear it with a suit coat, somehow the ruffles help disguise the zaftig bust. I also wear mine opened one button more – though still at a no-cleavage level – with a basic black merino cardy from BB and severalpearl necklaces, fake and real, on office days.
In a word, or two – try it! A ruffled blouse may make the large bust look bigger, or like my shirt, may offer some camoflauge and it’s just hard to know which it will do until it’s on, and under whatever you’d be wearing it with.
Mella
Brenda Kinsel has some intriguing things to say about pairing the vertical ruffle with a jacket. She’s talking about camo’ing a lack-of-waist, which is my problem.
http://www.brendakinsel.com/tipsteasers.html
I think the blouse looks pretty on the model, and I’d try it if it came in ivory, but I’d be worried about dropping stuff like sushi rice into the ruffle.
YourFriendlyOfficeDragon
I’m more like a mis-shapen pear :-D
I’m just worried that if I do this wrong either the ruffles won’t lay right or I’ll end up looking like a giant piñata. Maybe something with less or smaller ruffles would work better than the blouse in the photo for someone my shape.
Ashley
I’m hourglass and pretty busty, and I’ve found that smaller ruffles that taper off as they go down the shirt work well. They actually work to distract from the bust vs. enhance, and since the ruffles get smaller toward the bottom of the shirt, it seems to visually draw in my waist.
Makeup Junkie
I could wear this ruffly blouse + pencil skirt look 20 pounds ago, but I recently tried it and it was a no go.
AIMS
My first thought was Seinfeld’s “puffy shirt” from that episode where he goes on the Today show. I would hazzard to guess that I wouldn’t be the only person to think something like that on seeing this shirt. Just food for thought for anyone wearing this to the office . . . (not suggesting you shouldn’t, just suggesting at least one Seinfeld fanatic in your office will be thinking it).
Veronica
Yarrr. Very pretty it be. Perhaps a bit too much bunchy fabric for wenches with voluminous bosoms, I fear.
Another Sarah
This describes this shit exactly :-D
Another Sarah
WHOAH sorry!! shiRt!! :-(
Ses
Lmao at both review and response. Thank you.
Pirates describe sh*t = good fashion blog.
anon
Thanks for the laugh, I needed it :)
mamabear
I am laughing so hard right now!
K
Best review ever!
Anonymous
I thought we were getting rowdy up in here!! I can’t stop laughing. :)
b23
I love, love, love this. And that’s a great price. Too bad I’ve been trying to cut back on the shopping . . . not sure yet if I’ll make an exception for this one. :)
On another note, do y’all Corporettes think that a ponytail is appropriate for the office? I really like the way my hair looks pulled back, and I do it intentionally when it works with my outfit (like with a collared shirt), but I am not skilled enough to make it look fancy. It’s just a smooth ponytail, hair sprayed, not messy looking at all. Thoughts?
surrounded by lawyers
Sounds like me 2 or 3x per workweek. I think just upgrade the elastic, maybe with a tortoiseshell covering part or something else more polished, or use a barrette instead (as I usually do, which makes the ponytail fan out in a way that I think looks sophisticated).
KP
Is there a specific barrette you use (or a specific brand)? I have pretty thick hair and, while I like this look, I’ve yet to find a barrette that even comes close to holding all of my hair.
RR
They exist. Claire’s usually has some for thick hair, although they are cheapy. Goody has these bendy clip/barrette things that are like a sideways oval with a straight part that comes around and clips in the oval on the other side. They are almost a little big on my crazy thick hair. Beyond that, just look for wide, strong barrettes, and you’ll be surprised how many will work.
KP
Hmmm…I’ve tried the Claire’s ones and they last about an hour. I’ve tried several Goody ones. I’m not sure if I’ve tried the specific one you’re referencing, but I’m pretty sure I have. I’ll have to go to the store after work today to check out what they have.
I wish I could be surprised by how many will work, but unfortunately, for me, it’s been the exact opposite. I’ve been surprised by how many don’t work, even the ones that are supposed to be for thick or full hair. Sometimes I can get all of my hair in a barrette, but it pops open shortly thereafter. I guess my quest will continue! (But if anyone else has any specific suggestions, let me know!)
kz
could you try putting a clear rubberband on first (not tight, so it can expand to fit the clip) and then putting the clip on? I have no idea if it will help, but maybe if the hair doesn’t slide around as much, it won’t pop open?
RR
I haven’t bought a Claire’s one in years, so it may be different now, and they never held up well. I just tend to buy every giant barrette I see.
surrounded by lawyers
KP–have you tried France Luxe? I order them on Amazon. More than you might expect to pay for barrettes, but I tell myself it’s for work. :) Lots of good colors and designs, too, if you like–but very conservative options as well, if that’s your preference.
KP
I haven’t tried them yet. I will look into them today. (And I like to mix it up between plain and not-so-plain, that way I can wear something plain when I wear a patterned shirt, etc., but something with a little more interest when I wear a plain black dress, like I am today.) Thanks for the recommendation!
surrounded by lawyers
KP, in good conscience I should disclose that I don’t have particularly thick hair. (I do have room to spare in the barrettes though, does that help?) I really hope some of these work for you!
jr. prof
Second France Luxe. I saw a post on them here and ordered 2 barrettes, which are awesome for my thick, thick hair.
KateL
Upscale choice would be France Luxe brand – they have lots of barrettes for thick hair and have been featured here before. My cheaper option is ATLoft. They have a flat barrette that is 4″ long and about an 1″ wide that holds my hair well. For context when I donate hair my donation is 4.5-5 ounces when average donation is about 2.5-3 ounces.
CFM
I have thick hair and love the ATLOFT ones
Midori
I got a Caravan one on Amazon that works really well for my super thick hair. It’s rounded, designed for pony tails, and a nice, sophisticated tortoise shell oval.
Kady
I have v. thick hair as well. I use a matching color elastic, then clip the barrette into the ponytail. This also prevents the barrette from constantly slipping out, which I find happens with my slick, straight hair.
KP
Thanks for all of the great suggestions ladies! It feels like I’ve looked at lot, but the more I think about it, I’m thinking maybe I kept getting frustrated and giving up. Luckily, there’s a Loft a block from work, so I am going to stop in there after work today (or maybe I’ll just take an afternoon break and run over). I’m also going to bookmark this page and try some of the other brands/methods people suggested. Even though I haven’t commented much, I have been a long time, but sporadic reader, so I knew that Corporettes would be able to help!
Another Sarah
Do you already wrap a piece of hair around the elastic to hide it? It’s a pretty easy way to take a ponytail up a notch from just a regular ponytail. Just take a long, thing piece of hair from the underside of the ponytail, wrap it around the elastic so that it hides the elastic, and then bobbypin the end of the hair into place underneath the pony tail. Stays put all day. :-)
Jay
I do this! It makes me feel like my ponytail is fancier.
cbackson
I think it’s totally fine. I don’t usually do it, because my hair seems ridiculously slippery and doesn’t stay up well unless I use a thick, ugly sports rubberband, but I think it’s a very pretty look on a lot of people.
Samantha
Not too high a ponytail is fine IMHO. High ponys look less dignified, a tad little girl-ish.
Anonymous
On a related note, has anyone ever tried a ZannClip? (website is zannclip dot com) They look like they could work well, but I’m hesitant to pull the trigger without some reviews.
chix pix
On a related note, has anyone ever tried a ZannClip? (website is zannclip dot com) They look like they could work well, but I’m hesitant to pull the trigger without some reviews.
K
Semi-threadjack: I tend to wear sweaters/shells under my suits but recently bought a fabulous comfy button down. I’m by no means large in the chest area but there is some definite gape action if I move my arms the wrong way. The size above/below just don’t fit as well. Can the busty ladies give me some suggestions? Is it best to put a hidden snap there? Or should I just use a little piece of double-sided tape? Any help much appreciated!
meg
easiest solution is to wear a cami.
cardiganista
I like to put two small snaps – one above and one below the button that hits at the largest part of your chest. That seems to work for me and you can’t see/notice them at all. I use the little tiny clear plastic ones you can get at fabric stores and sew them myself. No need for a tailor.
L from Oz
I do this too. And a cami doesn’t help in the slightest – it’s the gaping that’s the problem, not that you can see something underneath (most of the time, you can’t, but the buttons still seem stretched.)
Just make sure you place the snaps carefully – they have to be in line with each other or else the end result is unfortunate. (First sewing attempts as a young adult = wonky shirt!)
Anonymous
I just can’t make button-fronts work (34G). Even with a cami, you can still see the gap and the cami underneath, which I think is not appropriate for work. On a casual day you can just leave the top few buttons unbuttoned completely and reveal a tank underneath, but that’s not an appropriate formal look. I only wear button-fronts with a sweater or blazer over them. And frankly I find button-fronts really uncomfortable; they restrict my movement in a way that shells and sweaters don’t.
alhambra
Get the placket sewed up (ie, the tailor just sews straight up the shirt). Make sure you can put the shirt on above your head with all the buttons closed before you do this. Instant solution.
alhambra
also, tape will NOT work. Or it will work for the first 4 hours of the day, and then for the remaining 4 hours you will be constantly patting your boobs down, trying to get the tape to stick.
lawyerette
I bought doublesided fashion tape at a bra store years ago and it’s lasted me forever AND works all day. In fact sometimes it works for two wears. The one bad sideffect is that you have to remember to take it off before you wash the shirt, or it’ll stick in a funny way in the dryer and pretty much ruin the shirt.
AEK
Agree. Maybe it depends on the tape, but I have had great success with Hollywood Fashion Tape (http://tinyurl.com/2aymb4), especially for the button-front gaping problem. I think it’s a great, cheap solution to start with before tailoring.
Camis are an OK solution if the main concern is not exposing skin, but they don’t really solve the problem of the shirt not laying correctly.
rg
I would say that you need to buy the bigger size and tailor down the rest. It sounds like the size you have doesn’t actually fit your bust.
K
Thanks for all the suggestions ladies, VERY helpful! Also I second the recommendation for Hollywood Fashion tape any time you are in need of double-sided tape for outfits.
Anon for this
Threadjack – My daughter – a 2nd year college student with junior standing – wants to be a lawyer. (I know, she knows about the law job market…she may end up doing something else, but has wanted to be a lawyer since she was 12.) She needs a summer job and wants to work at a law firm. We are in a medium-sized city where the large firms each hire 1-2 college students (as opposed to law students).
Question for attorneys with law firm hiring knowledge: To whom should she address her cover letter? We have the list of the top 50 law firms in the city and it lists the managing partner’s name. Should she send it to that person? Or look on websites to try to find the HR person? Does it really matter? I think it would for a law student but maybe not as important for a college student. Won’t the managing partner (or his/her assistant) just forward it to the HR person that hires interns?
Daughter has worked since she was 14, first as a sports referee, then at Baskin-Robins, then a coffee shop and now retail, and she’ll work retail again if the internship is unpaid or if she doesn’t get one. The internship should still be valuable even if she doesn’t go to law school. Thanks in advance everyone –and thanks Kat for this forum!
cardiganista
I’m a law student that just went through the OCI process and I also applies (unsuccessfully) to work in smaller law firms in my hometown in undergrad.
In OCIs…you would never ever address a letter to the managing partner. Ever. For law students, the letter is always addressed to the Student Recruitment Director (or similar title – with larger firms there are always one of these) or with small places, general HR-type position.
When I’ve applied for jobs that weren’t posted when I was in undergrad, I would call the place and explain the receptionist/assistant that I was wishing to submit a resume for such and such position and who should I address my cover letter to. Often non-law hires go to the Office Manager – after all, the office manager will often manage the interns/gophers.
Your daughter should spend some time calling/researching this.
A
Have her send it to both the managing partner and the HR person, who should be listed under “recruiting” on the firm’s website. Law firms are so slammed with hundreds and even thousands of resumes, however, even for summer internship or summer associate positions, I would highly recommend you try to find an “in” at one of the firms. For example, send it to a friend of a friend or a neighbor who has a cousin that works for the firm. Most of the resumes my firm receives never even get looked at unless there is some connection or something oustanding to distinguish the candidate. However, if the resume is sent by an attorney at the firm or the candidate has some connection (even if it’s just the fact that she has attended a function sponsored by the firm, etc.) then the chances of hiring increase tenfold.
Just as an FYI, I would not recommend law school to anyone, unless they 1) truly want to practice law (like your daughter) and 2) they can graduate from law school with minimal debt (manageable even if they faced unemployment or a salary similar to the one they had prior to law school) or debt-free. Many people may disagree, but I graduated in the past five years from a top twenty law school and scads of my fellow grads are unemployed. It’s rough out there.
J
“I would not recommend law school to anyone, unless they 1) truly want to practice law (like your daughter) and 2) they can graduate from law school with minimal debt (manageable even if they faced unemployment or a salary similar to the one they had prior to law school) or debt-free. Many people may disagree, but I graduated in the past five years from a top twenty law school and scads of my fellow grads are unemployed. It’s rough out there.”
Agree 100%.
K
Do you have any contacts at those firms? A neighbor? Someone you do business with? Someone you go to church, etc. with? If so, make a call to that person to let them know your daughter if interested in an internship and do they know anything about whether their firm does that. They’ll most likely tell you to have her contact them and they’ll send her resume to the appropriate person, but it is likely to get more consideration since it came from someone within the firm.
If not, just have her call the firm and ask to whom her resume should be sent. The receptionist should be able to direct her where she needs to go.
Guest
I would make an effort to find the HR person’s name and address it to them. Managing partners get a lot of mail and it shows she made an effort to find the right person.
E
Yeah, you are definitely going to make a lot more progress with this through networking rather than through just blindly sending out resumes. All of the undergrads my firm has hired in recent memory have either been kids of attorneys, or someone’s neighbor’s or friend’s kid. Do you know ANY attorneys? If so, start with them. If not, start asking around amongst your neighbors, coworkers, etc.
If she is going to just blindly send her resume out, I would actually start with solo practitioners or very small firms, since they probably don’t get as many resumes, and may need someone for a big project over the summer that they don’t necessarily want to pay a law student to do (e.g., scanning files).
Anonymous
I’d suggest that she target legal aid organizations, not just law firms. Only non-profits are legally allowed to hire unpaid interns, and I don’t think a law firm would be interested in paying an undergraduate who can’t really do any substantive work. At a legal aid clinic, she’d probably do a lot of filing and whatnot, but she’d also probably get to do some substantive work like intake, sitting in on hearings, etc.
LMP
any organization can hire an unpaid intern if he or she is getting credit from an educational institution. so, another avenue is to have her go through her college’s internship office to see if they can help her with contacts, recommendations, credit programs, etc. her inquiry might get more attention if she says she is getting credit for an internship, for example.
MelD
When I interned at the state attorney in law school, I noticed that both the public defender and SA took plenty of undergrad interns. They were pretty flexible to allow for people to go to paid jobs since (that year) they were not paying.
AIMS
If she hasn’t yet, your daughter should see if her school has a prelaw advisor/org. My undergrad did, and our pre law adviser would regularly send out part time job offers for students at law firms and various legal orgs.
She could check with her career services office, too.
Also, you can often search for attorneys by undergrad on law firm web pages, and she could see about reaching out to some established attorneys for advice on that basis.
Jenn
I worked for my District Attorney’s office in college. I was flirting with the idea of law school, and ultimately decided that is not what I wanted to do. But I interacted with attorneys on a daily basis and did some interesting work, as well as lots of uninteresting filing. I even got to go to court on occasion, which I doubt would happen a lot in the private sector.
Amy H.
I’m in California, and my (smallish — 50 attorney) firm hires college students to work in office services as paid summer interns. The proper person to address an outside mailing to (i.e., if one doesn’t go the networking route — which is how most of our summer interns are hired) is the Chief Operating Officer, who is not an attorney. (He is the HR manager’s boss.) So I second the recommendation to call individual firms and ask, because there is going to be a different answer in many cases. We don’t have a managing partner, but we do have a hiring partner, but that person is responsible only for hiring attorneys, not staff.
Annie
This doesn’t seem like the thing a managing partner would deal with at all, and he or she is probably busier than your average partner (which is pretty busy to begin with), so it’s likely to get lost in their inbox.
I would follow the above suggestion to call the receptionist and ask for the appropriate person. At my summer firm, that would have been the Office Manager who handled all of the hiring for secretaries, accountants, and anyone else non-legal.
Also, the associates at my firm thought that the college student who worked there one summer only got the job because he was the child of a big client. Thus, as others have mentioned, I think networking is huge for these positions. Do you have a close family friend that either works at a firm or is a major client (either personally or through their business)? Has your daughter taken pre-law-type classes (poli sci, con law) and developed a relationship with the professor, who might do work on the side with one of the firms? If any of these people can pass on her resume, it’s much more likely to get noticed.
Good luck!
JessC
This is just my opinion – but I wouldn’t go the Top 50 route, particularly if you live in a large city. They likely get inundated with resumes and I doubt they’d have much use for someone who has never worked in a support staff position and isn’t a law student.
She’ll probably have better luch smaller firms and state agencies. If you have any law friends are family members, hit them up for some suggestions or people to talk to.
kz
This one may require networking. I got my summer job at a law firm in college because a family friend sent my resume to a firm he used to work for. But I definitely recommend her working for a firm before going to law school. That’s what ultimately made me decide to go to law school (a decision I now regret, not because I ended up hating the law, but because of the economy. So when it comes time to apply, encourage her to go wherever gives her the most money…)
Anon for this
Thanks so much everyone. I work with attorneys daily and have about 10 (inter-thread alert!) in my LinkedIn network, so I will be calling them directly. And just today at lunch a partner at a larger firm agreed to hand-carry her resume to the hiring person, as did another partner at another firm last week.
So networking on my part is working. And we appreciate the hints on who to contact at those firms where we don’t have contacts.
But some of your other ideas are super. The hard thing with smaller firms is just the number of firms that are out there. I love the idea of her working for legal aid. She had a short internship at the county DA office so that is another idea.
Thanks again!
AtlantaAttorney
This is the kind of shirt that I never know how to style & thus wouldn’t touch if I saw it on a rack, but love Kat’s suggestion of gray pencil skirt + purple velvet blazer. Kat, I wish you could do some sort of visual collage when you do those styling suggestions (a la InStyle Magazine – do you know what I mean?).
Y
Second!
Anonymous
I found this beautiful, work-appropriate dress (available only in 2 and 12) on Nordstrom’s website. The price is certainly right. I’m neither a 2 nor a 12, but figured someone else might be interested!
http://shop.nordstrom.com/s/tahari-by-arthur-s-levine-seamed-ponte-knit-sheath-dress/3141308?origin=keywordsearch&resultback=0
Anonymous
AHA! It’s also available in 6P!
Boston atty
I just bought it! Thank you :)
Kady
Me too. Since I’m in Boston too, maybe will run into you wearing the same dress :)
MelD
I love it, but know I can’t do those sizes in knit, sadly.
Lawgirl
@Anonymous. Super cute. And $41 for a dress at Nordies?!! Thanks for the public service!
JessC
Oh man, I am a 12P. I really shouldn’t, but…
Anonymous
It’s weird – the available sizes keep changing. Now it’s available in 12P and 14P, earlier a 6R was available, too.
Anonymous
Probably someone had the last one of that size in her shopping cart, but didn’t buy it.
Mac
I’m reposting my NY CLE question from end of day yesterday in hopes that more people will see/respond, as I know we have several NY lawyers here on Corporette. I will be admitted to the NY bar soon, but I will be working out of state (in house for a NY corporation). NY requires newly admitted attorneys to have 16 hours of in-person CLE credits in each of their first two years. This will probably require a dedicated trip to NY (doing it in a sister state is a possibility, but it would have to fulfill specific categories, and not all states use the same categories). Does anyone have any suggestions for cheap(er) CLE providers or advice on how you completed you newly admitted CLEs? Thanks!
alhambra
You should look into options in your state – if you are in NJ or Conn, I’d be surprised if there weren’t a lot of options to fulfill the NY requirements. You might be surprised at how many options are offered.
The way most people do it in NY is to go to a 2-day course that bangs out all the 16 credits. Unless you go to a course like that it’s virtually impossible to cobble together the 16 required credits in the right categories. If you can’t find a course like that in your state, you might just have to suck it up and come to NY.
I
I believe if you practice out of state you are exempt from NY’s CLE requirements. Check here: http://www.nycourts.gov/attorneys/cle/1500.shtml
Divaliscious11
Marino in the city used to have a 2 day class for newly admitted attorneys that you could come in and get everything done in one shot……… It’s been 10 years though….
Associette
My comment is based on what my fiance would say if I wore this –
The Pirate Shirt!! (From Seinfeld)
LPC
Gorgeous. I wore tees, mostly, but there were times where something like this would be perfect, a presentation, etc.
Midori
Threadjack: I’m just so proud of myself that I had to share my new research strategy. Maybe I’m late to this game, but I’ve been trying out a new method of organizing my legal research, and this is working really well for me:
I download my Westlaw search results (all of them) into a Word document, and then open the outlining toolbar. Then at the top of each case, I type out the case citation in bluebook format and format it “level one.” Then I each case, highlight juicy bits, and format any paragraphs that may be helpful later as “level two.” When I’m done, I just go to the top of the document, add a section break, and insert a table of contents. Ta-daaaah! I just made a list of cases and their important bits in one easy, printable, clickable summary.
Forests everywhere will thank me.
Midori
There’s a missing “read” in there.
anon
I LOVE THIS. I print out so many cases when I research. Have you found it to be a time saver in addition to a clutter-and-paper-saver?
Midori
So far, yes. It keeps me from having to sort back through a huge stack of cases to find the context of something I thought was interesting or useful, and when I’m writing, it’s easier to find and lift quotes and citations from a 4-page outline than a 200-page result.
anon
Yep. That makes tons of sense. Thanks for sharing!
Amy H.
This sounds great. Do you physically delete the non-highlighted portions of the full-text cases to get rid of them, or are they still in the document, just not highlighted?
Midori
I keep them in the document, in case I need context later. Since it’s all one Word doc, it’s not a problem to keep even unhelpful cases. I used to delete them, but realized it was better to at least keep the heading in the list so I would know I’ve already read it if it pops up in subsequent research.
L
Oh, this is awesome!!!
Lola
Have you ladies tried WestlawNext? It pretty much does this for you, in the Westlaw web browser.
Another awesome thing about WestlawNext: when you copy an excerpt of a case onto your clipboard, to cut-and-paste, it automatically comes with the case citation. Brilliant!
Midori
Oh, that is brilliant! Alas, no, WestlawNext has not showed up at my firm yet. We’re even doing our best to minimize Westlaw time because some clients are starting to balk at paying for it! That’s another advantage to manipulating in Word–once you download, you can sign off.
L
I used westlaw next once, bc my firm just got it, but I found that it pretty much sucked, sadly.
j
wow, this is awesome. thanks!
Wilma
I LOVE this blouse, but would perfer it in another color. My boyfriend got me a green chemise for the holidays, and I look absoluely divine in it (he said that, not me). He paid only $75 at a boutique in New York City. I hope to be able to get the matching jacket for VALENTINE’s day, b/c he IS my boyfriend and I give him things, too.
I need to find a wool skirt that has a silk lining in green to go with my blouse. Does anyone know where I can get something cute in a size 6?
Anon
Uh oh. ALLEN IS BACK!
AIMS
I hope Ellen knows Allen is CHEATING on her with Wilma!!
What scandolous phooey.
surrounded by lawyers
I hope Ellen knows Allen is CHEATING on her with Wilma!!
What scandolous phooey.
AIMS
Only in MANAGEING PARTNER’s dreams ;)
Laura
Although admittedly in a *slightly* more convincing form. As in, I wasn’t certain until sentence two.
academicsocialite
I’m sure this fantastic boyfriend picked out a chemise that would accentuate the bodice, the lucky girl!
Kady
LOL. Why in the world would a girl need to have the lining of her skirt match her blouse? Maybe she’s in fact thinking of showing said lining to the MANAGEING PARTNER!
AEK
Ew, no way. He is BALD and he’s always STAREING at her!
Ru
LOL, u gals are HILARIOUS!
Nonny
This just made my crappy day so much better!
mamabear
OMG I hopped on the giggle train reading Another Sarah’s review above, and now I can’t get off! I may have to leave my office. Clever women can be so funny!
Housecounsel
Has anyone read How Not to Act Old by Pamela Redmond Satran? I did recently, in “celebration” of my 40th birthday. Anyway, one of the chapters is entitled “Enough with the Seinfeld references.” But I can’t help myself. There is a Seinfeld reference for every object and occasion, including this very classy semi-pirate shirt.
AIMS
I am in my late 20s and I make Seinfeld references all the time. It’s not like you are going on about Murphy Brown. Seinfeld is on like 12 times a day and it’s still beloved.
I saw that author on some TV show when she was promoting How Not to Look Old, and while some of her advice was good, if a little obvious (e.g., don’t dry clean your jeans), some of it was just silly. Be yourself — you’ll feel much more relaxed and thus seem much younger. Besides, 40 is just the new 30 . . . you’ve got a long way to go to “old” :)
AnonAnonAnon
Agreed! I always make Seinfeld references and I’m in my mid-to-late-20’s. That show is a classic, IMO.
On a side note, I fancied myself very cool and “adult” when I was in late elementary school/junior high and watched Seinfeld a lot starting toward the middle of its initial run (probably the last 4-5 seasons). It’s so interesting/funny to watch the same episodes now, as an adult, and view them so differently. Heck, back then I found George annoying and I am now pretty sure he’s one of the greatest characters in the history of TV. I just love me some George.