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Coffee Break: ‘Anemone’ Shopper Tote

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Furla avocado pebbled leather 'Anemone' shopper tote OK. Cute green bag. Nice leather, nice details (feet on the bottom, toggle closure, interior pockets), GREAT sale ($428 to $165), great brand in general (I love Furla). BUT: for some reason, although I have posted a thousand “shopper totes” before, this one annoys me. Why must we call it a “shopper” tote? Granted, I like to shop; I do it a lot. But are the only women who need such big bags the ones who are off shopping? I don't know. Am I the only one weirdly having a strong reaction to the phrase “shopper tote”? Anyway: it's marked to $165 today at Bluefly. Furla avocado pebbled leather ‘Anemone' shopper tote (L-2)

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  1. tesyaa

    They’ve been calling this style a shopper for a LONG time. It’s just a name it picked up, like a messenger bag. Don’t read too much into it.

    • tesyaa

      Also, a lot of stores use paper bags of this style to pack one’s purchases. Maybe that’s where “shopper” came from.

      • anonymom

        Yes, I have always assumed these were called “shopper” totes because they are shaped like shopping bags.

    • Baconpancakes

      Eh, I get it. There’s a feeling that a lot of women’s clothing and accessories are marketed solely to women of leisure who dress up to look like they go to work.

    • k-padi

      Cities around here are slowly outlawing plastic shopping bags and charging for paper ones even for clothing stores. I tend to wear big purses like this for errands and shopping days just to reduce the number of bags needed.

      • AIMS

        For me, a bag like this is a shopping tote because when I go to buy shoes or a new dress at lunch, I squirrel away my purchases inside rather than walk back in holding the telltale shopping bag.

        • hellskitchen

          I am just seeing this comment but I was nodding in agreement. I take a large bag like this to work on days when I plan to hit sample sales on my lunch break :-)

  3. Baconpancakes

    I know “good hair” for WOC has been a topic here in the past, and I just wanted to share this fantastic new cover of O magazine. Link to follow.

  4. cbackson

    Call me crazypants McGee, but I think that it’s because it’s in the shape of a paper shopping bag.

  5. sharpest

    this is like being annoyed at the name “hobo bag” because non-hobos use them as well.

    • Jeannie

      “Hobo bag” bugs me because hobos couldn’t possibly afford them. Calling any fancy handbag a “hobo” whatever is straight-up gross tbqh.

      • j

        Hobo bags are called as such because they look like the bindles hobos used to carry. I don’t really like the shape of the bag at all, but come on. It’s a bag shape inspired by a subculture of transients who don’t exist anymore. It’s not like the bag is shaped like a shopping cart and yells obscenities on the subway.

      • Cb

        Ugh, there is a store here which translates to “the luxe hobo”. They have some beautiful things in the window but I refuse to shop there on principle.

  6. Gift amount

    Question for the hive – what is an appropriate amount to give as a gift card for a friend’s wedding, when the friend is not close? An old classmate of mine from college moved to my city last year, and I’ve maybe seen her three times since she has been here (I’ve made numerous attempts to reach out to socialize, but often don’t hear back from her). Prior to that time, I hadn’t seen her in 10 years (since college). She’s very sweet and warm, just hard to pin down and a bit flaky.

    She invited me to her wedding and I was not able to attend. It was sweet of her to invite me and I wasn’t expecting it. How much should I give her? Is $100 appropriate? Too much? Too little?

    I was thinking to give a gift card since everything from her registry is already purchased. If others have ideas on physical gifts (maybe something that I can customize for her and her hubby), let me know.

    • Maddie Ross

      Since she’s in your city, maybe a gift card to a nice restaurant in your town? Or if you really want to catch up with her, an offer to take her and her husband there yourself and treat?

    • westcoastjd

      I would say $100 would be fine. Given your description of your relationship, I would think $50 would also be appropriate, but others may disagree.

        • Ellen

          I think it depend’s on how much you are makeing and how much you can AFFORD. $50 is good for some, $100 for other’s. If you are goeing to the wedding with a GUEST, you should give MORE then you would if you are goeing alone, or NOT at all. After all, it costs money for catering and food and renting the hall or church or whatever, and DAD says that you absolutely HAVE to grease the person who marries’ you ahead of time so that he does NOT embarass you by saying the wrong thing before you get MARRIED!

          It is very easy to be a MAN (or woman) of the cloth, Dad says. He says that peeople get very nervous when they have a religious ceremony, either a bris, a wedding, a bar mitzveh, confirmation, or even a funeral, and the man of the cloth MUST be good and get greased. I think you must get a steady handed guy to do your son’s bris, otherwise your son (and those women he eventually dates) will never forgive or forget you. I remember my FIRST college room mate went out with a guy who got a bad bris, and she did NOT want to date him just b/c of that, and that was about 18 or 19 year’s later! FOOEY!

      • Anonymous

        Thanks all for the feedback. I was thinking $100 is high given our relationship, but I also felt a little “cheap” giving her $50 (she’s a doctor, I’m in BigLaw), and I’ve never given just $50 for a friend’s wedding. I may just err on the side of being generous and give the $100.

    • LH

      Another vote for $50. Most people in my (successful professional) friend group give $50 per person even when they do attend the wedding. For a wedding I didn’t attend that wasn’t a close friend, I’d give $50 max. Etiquette says you don’t have to give a gift at all if you don’t attend the wedding, so I think giving less than you would if you had attended is totally fine.

    • bw

      My husband and I are from opposite coasts and noticed at our wedding that the “appropriate”amount for a gift varied a lot by geography even where the givers had similar resources. West coasters usually gave around 50 , including long tome family friends; east coasters routinely gave closer to 100, even for people who weren’t so close. Honestly I think 50 is more appropriate in

    • CKB

      It’s my Friday! I’m off to my 20th high school reunion tomorrow. Looking forward to showing my boys the town I grew up in. :)

    • Bonnie

      Seriously. I forgot how exhausting long trials are. At least we’re off tomorrow.

  9. westcoastjd

    Query for the group: Tory Burch shoes (flats or wedges with the logo in tan, black, or some other neutral). Worth it? Recommended? For me, these would be a splurge, but I think I would wear them to work often.

    • Orangerie

      I have the Reva flats in a few different colors and love them. I wear a pair when commuting almost every day (change into heels when I get to the office), and with regular maintenance they have all held up nicely over a long period of time. Definitely worth it, but if you can wait until the next Bloomingdale’s F&F sale you can get a pair for 20% off.

    • Anonymous

      I hate TB flats. They cut into my heel like no other. They also wore out very quickly (less than a year) which is odd for me — most of my shoes last for 7-10 years.

    • cbackson

      I find that the Reva flats have zero support, and I consigned mine after wearing them less than ten times. I wear a Ferragamo Varina flat now that I love – it’s pricier, but not that much pricier, and it has a real sole.

    • Heels

      I have a 4.5 year old pair of TB heels (chunky 2-inches) and I wear them all the time. Very comfortable and have held up well. Would recommend!

      I brought them as an alternative to the Ferragamo Vara — my foot just liked these better. Rubber sole does well in our wet climate — not cool to slip on marble.

    • emeralds

      Personally, I just hate things that are so obviously branded, so I’ve never really understood the love of Tory Burch logo-ed footwear (although I love the look of her clothes). I should pay over a hundred dollars to be a walking billboard for someone else’s business because–?

        • AIMS

          Yeah, this is my general feeling too. And even if I didn’t hate the logo and the ubiquity, I would say make sure you really try them — I hear they’re not great for your feet at all.

    • SC

      In law school I had Tory Burch flats that were tan with an orange accent. I wore them all the time – so often that I wore them out (after many miles). Definitely worth it.

    • Anonymous

      Honestly, people who wear TB flats are flashing a symbol that says “I’m the worst.” 300 dollar for shoes with terrible quality and no arch support just so you can have something that says look how much I can afford! … no thanks

      • tesyaa

        My daughters generally wear Steve Madden ballet flats and they wear like iron. Well, not exactly like iron, but they hold up pretty darn well and I’ve never paid more than $60.

      • Brooklyn Paralegal

        This is a VERY belated response, but I choked on my coffee a little bit reading this. I agree entirely!

        I remember I was so sad in high school because all the girls in my class wore TB flats and I couldn’t afford them, and when I finally tried a pair on in college, they were so uncomfortable and way too flashy for my taste.

    • Blue

      I bought the Reva flats a few months ago after wanting them for ages (sorry if that makes me lame, but I like how they look). But I returned them to Bloomingdale’s after a couple wears because they pinched the back of my feel, rubbed my toes, and had very little support. They weren’t awful, but for that much money, they needed to be shoes that I could wear all the time and they just weren’t.

  10. anon

    How do you know if a therapist is a good fit? I recently decided to seek counseling and have booked sessions with two different providers within my insurance network, located close to my apartment and that have hours that fit with my schedule. So, in terms of logistics, I’m set. However, I’ve never done therapy before and I’m just not sure how to go about deciding which counselor to continue seeing. One is an MFT and the other is a psychiatrist, if that matters… but I’m not necessarily seeking medication so from my limited knowledge the professional designation wouldn’t make a huge difference in my decision.

    Any advice would be much appreciated.

    • mascot

      I didn’t think that psychiatrists did regular therapy sessions, instead they focused more on medication management? You may end up needing both, but for traditional talk therapy, the MFT is likely more appropriate.

      • TBK

        When I did a few months of therapy it was with a psychiatrist. I didn’t have an illness (more relationship issues) and didn’t ever get meds. Some do talk therapy just like any therapist; they just also have the ability to write scripts.

      • anonforthis

        I used to see a psychiatrist for both weekly therapy and medication. It was really nice to be able to go one place for both needs. I moved and now my psychiatrist doesn’t do therapy, just medication management, so I have to go two separate places. They’re both great people, but I miss getting both services from one person.

    • Baconpancakes

      I’d recommend a quick (quick! Wikipedia quick) study of types of therapy – behavioral, cognitive, cognitive behavioral, narrative, family oriented (the MFT), etc, and discuss which approaches the therapists use, in order to figure out if there’s a certain approach that absolutely does not mesh with you.

      From there, it’s mostly a matter of chemistry. Do you feel comfortable with this person? Do you feel both respected and helped? Just liking a therapist isn’t necessarily a good indicator – you can like someone and talk to him or her for an hour a week for the rest of your life and not get an ounce of help out of it.

      Also, unless you’re seeking medication, I wouldn’t recommend a psychiatrist. Due in large part to the insurance schedules we have (I assume you’re in the US) combined with the costs of training as a psychiatrist, it’s very difficult for them to NOT focus on medication. A good talk therapist will have a few psychiatrist colleagues they can recommend if you both decide medication might help, and you’ll only have to meet with the psychiatrist once every couple of months.

    • Anonymous for this

      I’ve seen therapists and psychiatrists. The psychiatrists were always to see how I was doing in my talk therapy sessions with my therapist and to refill my Rxs, because my therapist and I decided it was the road I wanted to follow.

      As for a good fit with a therapist, are they actively listening to you (trust me, you can tell when they aren’t — when they’re distracted, not really responding, asking really unrelated questions), are they challenging you, are they respectful, do you feel comfortable with them?

      After seeing one therapist for 18 months, I stopped because I left she couldn’t offer me anything new. Our conversations had become stale and I was trying to come up with things to talk about each week instead of having legitimate things to talk about.

    • In the Pink

      Some psychiatrists do provide therapy. MFTs do not prescribe and have more training, typically, in therapy.

      It’s important to find out the therapist’s point of view and what they do think they’d start with once you’ve described your goals.

      It is a trial by fire sort of thing, but a good therapist will let you know if they aren’t feeling fully able or trained to meet your needs. They would also let you know along the way if there isn’t a fit or if they see that their suggestions etc. aren’t taken up by you.

      BaconPancakes is right on target – if you want talk therapy, a MFT is good, so is an LPC, or Social Worker MSW. If you want more training for that person than really a PhD Psychologist is one who has had more years.

      That being said, it is a fit between how you think and approach things and what they do.

      Best wishes! Congrats on taking the step!

  11. NOLA

    I had never heard of Furla until I went to Italy several years ago. There was a Furla store around the corner from our hotel in Milan and we had to pass it to get to the main street. I practically pressed my nose up against the window every time we passed. At the time, I didn’t have the guts to go in. I would now!

    • emeralds

      I also love love love Furla. I got a Furla watch when I was in Rome in February, which was quite a splurge, but it’s beautiful, classic, sparkly enough to be fun but not insanely blinged-out, and navy blue, which gives it a nice twist. I’ve worn it virtually every single day since then. I wish non-handbag Furla accessories were easier to come by here in the US (or I don’t, because temptation).

    • Anonymous

      I had never heard of it until earlier this year. I was ringing up a dress purchase at Nordstrom and the other sales women were unpacking these horrendously 90s bright jelly semi-transparent purses. I looked at the brand and saw they were Furla, and haven’t been able to take it seriously since–even though I’ve seen plenty of other lovely items (I really like the color and shape of the bag featured here, for ex.)

      • tesyaa

        I got a Furla bowling bag style on Overstock.com about 10 years ago. It was a sturdy textured leather that didn’t show wear at all. Used it for a few years, got bored and gave it to my mother, who uses it on nice occasions. It still looks new.

        I paid like $80 and I never see them at that price anymore. Great quality.

  12. k-padi

    California attorneys:

    I need to finish up my MCLE hours so I’m looking for online courses for ethics, bias, and Substance Abuse. There are so many online and they vary widely in price. Anyone have any particular source that they like?

    Thanks!

    • OCAssociate

      I used the State Bar’s MCLE self-assessment tests online – it didn’t have the best set-up, tech-wise, but was affordable and had lots of ethics/bias options.

  13. darjeeling

    oooh, love this. anyone care to comment as to whether a 7″ drop would be long enough to permit use as a shoulder bag? I’m guessing that would be tight.

    • Susie

      I don’t read any one magazine regularly, usually just if I find something laying around at the gym, but I am most surprised that the Marie Claire average is so high.

  15. E

    I get it… plus I prefer a smaller crossbody bag, especially if I’m shopping so I have my hands free.

  16. Jessica Glitter

    How do you ladies get past the mid-afternoon sleepies? I feel like it has been extreme lately. As in “not even sure I am reading this document I am looking at” sleepy.
    I feel like I am just not doing something right. Sigh.

    • Godzilla

      I refuse to have any grain carbohydrates for lunch (no wheat, rice, etc). I have to get more creative but I somehow eat enough and I’m not sleepy mid-afternoon.

      • sweetknee

        I also do no carb lunches. I do occasionally resort to coffee at 3 PM though. I have also been known to get up from my desk and run up and down the stairs ( we are in a 5 story building). Up and down twice and a cup of coffee usually do it.

        Are you getting plenty of sleep at night at home ?

    • a.k.

      “clean foods” for lunch – no pasta, light on starches. Usually just lean meat and veggies or a salad.

      …. and if that fails, chocolate covered espresso beans from Trader Joe’s.

    • LeChouette

      I second avoiding the carbs at lunch. and I love them, but they always result in an energy lull. also, I have a 3-4 p.m. diet coke pretty much daily. insert green tea here if you are not a raging artificial sweetener addict (like myself).

    • B

      I find that avoiding carbs is not the problem as much as avoiding too much sugar in the AM. I can eat carbs, but I also make sure I eat a bunch of protein and veggies too.

    • Anonymous

      I drink a cup or two of tea around 2 or 3 p.m. I also bring healthy snacks. I find that some mindless munching really perks me up and makes the afternoon go faster. Cherries or green grapes are my current go-to’s. I keep em in the fridge ’till I eat ’em, and the coldness also perks me up. Other favorites are baby carrots, cucumber sticks, pumpkin seeds, and dried fruit.

      • KLG

        Anecdata but drinking more water before lunch has definitely helped my 2 pm sleepies.

  17. Ellen

    I think it depend’s on how much you are makeing and how much you can AFFORD. $50 is good for some, $100 for other’s. If you are goeing to the wedding with a GUEST, you should give MORE then you would if you are goeing alone, or NOT at all. After all, it costs money for catering and food and renting the hall or church or whatever, and DAD says that you absolutely HAVE to grease the person who marries’ you ahead of time so that he does NOT embarass you by saying the wrong thing before you get MARRIED!

    It is very easy to be a MAN (or woman) of the cloth, Dad says. He says that peeople get very nervous when they have a religious ceremony, either a bris, a wedding, a bar mitzveh, confirmation, or even a funeral, and the man of the cloth MUST be good and get greased. I think you must get a steady handed guy to do your son’s bris, otherwise your son (and those women he eventually dates) will never forgive or forget you. I remember my FIRST college room mate went out with a guy who got a bad bris, and she did NOT want to date him just b/c of that, and that was about 18 or 19 year’s later! FOOEY!

  18. jcrew lover

    All,

    quick question. I just bought the no. 2 pencil skirt in double serge wool from J.Crew in every color available now (black, camel, gray, and green). Clearly I love this skirt and am a HUGE HUGE fan. What other colors have they had available in the past (other than these 4)?

    • meme

      I love the No. 2 in double serge wool as well. I buy them up whenever they go on super sale. In addition to the colors you listed, I have it in an orangy-red (but mostly red – poppy?) and a grayish-pink.

      I also really love the Jcrew telegraph pencil skirt.

    • Orangerie

      They have made it in so many colors over the past few years. Off the top of my head, I can think of two different gray tones (one darker and one lighter than the version currently sold), burgundy, “retro jade” (difficult to describe but google image should turn something up), two different dark yellow shades (one was called “spicy gold”, can’t remember the name of the other but it was slightly more mustard in tone), cobalt blue, dark pink (“bright violet”?) , the poppy red mentioned above… and I’m sure many more that I’m not remembering.

      They have also done the same style in various tweed/herringbone iterations.

      (yes, I spend too much time looking at J.Crew catalogs)

      • Recent grad

        I have a ton of no. 2’s, including an awesome hot pink one and a pepper tweed one.

    • Anonymous

      I have a blue green color (more green than blue) and the bright red color. I wear the green one all the time in the fall, winter, and early spring.

    • LLBMBA

      I have it in pink (a fall-ish pink, if that makes sense) and I’m coveting the charcoal/black combo version that’s out now.

  19. Jessica Glitter

    For those of you who talked yesterday about having several separate bank accounts for various expenses, how do you handle keeping all of those debit cards/ checkbooks straight? I am sort of intrigued by this but it sure seems like a lot to carry around!

    • LH

      I think credit cards are an easy way of separating expenses. I don’t do this myself but I know people who put all travel on an airline rewards card, use individual store cards for clothing purchases, put meals on a card that has good dining rewards, etc. Might be a little hard to keep track of but at least it doesn’t take much space in your wallet.

      • KinCA

        I do this. I have one credit card for all “necessary” expenses – groceries, gas, etc – that happens to give me more cash back for using it at those types of places. I also have a card that I use for all “fun” expenses – shopping, dining out, etc. That way, if I ever need to cut out my “fun” spending and save up, it’s really easy to see where I can cut back. I put all of my autopay expenses – phone bill, gym membership, etc. – on another card, so if I ever lose it or get a new number, it’s really easy to remember what “automatic payments” I need to update.

        I also have two store-specific credit cards for stores that I am really loyal to so I can rack up points (BR & Bloomingdales). It might seem complicated but I’ve basically been doing it this way since I had my own money, so it’s become second nature to me.

    • Anonymous

      I was the one who had 7 checking/savings accounts. I really only use three debit cards regularly: one for my disposable money account, one for our joint expenses account, and one for my personal expenses account. One debit card looks different, so that’s easy. For the other two, I put a discrete mark on one card in permanent marker. I only have actual checks for two of the accounts, and the checks look different and one has both my and my SO’s name on it, so it’s not hard. I also never carry the checks around in my bag and use them only at home when paying some bills. That said, I have definitely used the wrong debit card when I’m in a rush and not paying close enough attention! All my accounts are linked though, so it’s an easy fix to electronically transfer the money.

    • Veronique

      I have 3 accounts, long term savings, short term savings and checking. The checking and ST savings are both linked to the same account, so I only have one debit card for that. The lt savings is an online account and I don’t have a card for that one. All of transactions for that account are done online and through automatic debits. I never carry checks and rarely use them.

      I’m planning on opening a prepaid, refillable debit card, which I’ll use for everyday expenses (similar to how some people take out cash for the week). I’ll then set up automatic debits for “fun” money into that account and use my checking primarily for bills.

    • DC Anon

      I was one of the ones with four accounts. I actually only carry one debit card around. I destroyed the debit card to one of my other accounts, and then I have a debit card I keep in storage at home in case something happens to my main debit card and I need a backup to be able to get cash out of an ATM. Aside from paying for small things and cabs with cash, I pay for everything on a credit card and then “reimburse” myself out of the appropriate checkings or savings account. General purchases just go on my credit card and are paid off out of my main checking account every month.

  21. Recent grad

    I’m hoping it’s not too late to get responses but, I am having another couple over for dinner and am not sure what to make. It will be a week night, so I want something that won’t take forever to make and doesn’t require constant attention so I can talk with my guests. I still want it to feel slightly fancy, but not break the bank. Any suggestions? Thanks!

    • Jessica Glitter

      I would repost in tomorrow morning’s thread, or in the weekend open thread!

    • cbackson

      What about roasting bone-in chicken breasts? It take a while to cook (probably about 35-40 minutes), but that’s all in-oven time. I leave the skin on and rub them both under the skin and on the skin with a paste of olive oil and salt. Then I stuff some fresh rosemary leaves and thin lemon slices under the skin and roast.

      To make everything else quick and easy, I’d start with an arugula and radish salad, and serve blanched asparagus and nice rolls or bread. I’m a red wine drinker with pretty much everything, but prosecco would also lighten it up and make it feel more festive.

      An even easier option: rotisserie chicken. You can carve it before everyone arrives so they don’t see the grocery store bag, and then serve it with the same side dishes, or substitute polenta for the rolls.

    • R

      Another option: something from the “Slow Cooker Revolution” cookbook. It’s from the Cooks Illustrated people so the recipes are way better than your standard meat-based stew. A little prep in the morning and a bit of prep that night. Serve with a nice salad or fresh veggies.

      Some of my faves: Bakes Potato Soup (serve in bread bowls), Everyday Shredded Pork (chop up veggies for an easy taco night).

  22. Sofia

    How do you corporate lawyer ladies deal with judgmental relatives? I’ve just taken the bar and am already dealing with this. My extended family is very anti-lawyer in general and very anti-corporate-lawyer in particular. I’ve tried to explain what I’ll be doing, but I swear my grandmother is convinced large law firms are just fronts for baby sacrificing cults. She thinks I’ve sold out to “The Man” and whatnot. It bothers me because–at least from what I saw during 2L summer–I was actually really impressed by my firm on the ethical front. I’m excited about becoming a lawyer and am annoyed that no one is happy with me.

    Is there any way to convince my family I’m not going to be murdering kittens?

    • Wildkitten

      Tithe to the ASPCA. Seriously – I think one of the best things about making decent money is being able to donate to charities that need your money. (The #1 best is being able to pay your own bills, of course).

    • TravelMoreRoads

      A few ideas, first, remind them that corporate law doesn’t always mean the biggest corporations – you’ll be trained and empowered to help small businesses too, if not at your current job then later. You can do pro bono work for nonprofits. Explain that businesses look to their counsel for just that and that you’ll have the opportunity to give ethical advice to make a difference. I do like the giving to charity idea too. Also, explain that firms are built by people like you that just want to help others and earn a living, and that even the biggest companies you’ll advise started as small ones. Finally, take the time to share every applicable, positive article and story you can. Do so periodically to show consistency and hopefully ultimately change their minds. Good luck!

      Quick thanks to everyone that has visited the TravelMoreRoads site, glad you’re enjoying it! Happy Friday all!

    • Anonymous

      I’m not sure there’s a way to convince your family. You can share stories (edited for client confidentiality purposes) about the pro bono you do or whatnot, but, ultimately, you’ll probably be happiest if you stop caring what they think and focus on what you think about your job. If you think you’re selling out, get the heck out of corporate law as soon as possible. If you like your work and feel like you’re doing some measure of good in the world, learn to change the subject!

    • Dr. Q

      I’m a week late, but maybe you’ll see (somehow I never manage to be up to date on my lady-blog reading!). I think the best course of action is to stand your ground. Don’t try to convince your family you’re a good person by only talking about the pro-bono or charity-giving you do (you are welcome to do these or talk about these if you want). I would just talk honestly about what you do. Give brief counterpoints to “the man”-style statements. For example, you can say things like “Actually, in my experience, all my co-workers and bosses are very concerned about the ethics of our work and are dedicated to improving X”. I’m in a similar situation (although with Big-Bad-Pharma instead of corporate law), and I also hope that I might change people’s mind just by being who I am. My family knows I’m a highly ethical and driven person, so maybe by by extension one day they’ll think that my chosen field is not completely evil.

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