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Coffee Break: Water Sleeping Mask Mini

Coffee Break

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blue mini size of Laneige sleeping mask

Ann's post at CorporetteMoms today (recommending this mascara she purchased on her last trip to Japan) has sent me down a YesStyle rabbit hole, and I've found… minis!

Deep sigh… but I do love minis, both to keep various travel bags stocked as well as to try new products. This water cream from Laneige isn't a new one to me (at least I'm 90% sure I've had it before, unless I'm remembering another water cream), and while it wasn't moisturizing enough for my dry skin for regular use, it would be perfect to keep in my travel supplies.

(Ooh, and while the Laneige pink overnight lip mask has been popular for a while, wouldn't this set of 4 minis be really cute for stocking stuffers? And — while none of these are the cooling sun stick I have, I love keeping a similar product in my bag for hot days, especially when it's time to reapply sunscreen midday…)

(OK, also — if you've been intrigued by the new trend in black and gray lip gloss (they all look gorgeous on, very MLBB with a bit more of a mauve) like MAC or Fenty, this Rom&nd Glasting Tint looks fun. I loved the consistency of the Glasting Balm I bought during the Prime Day sales.)

Other items in my cart at the moment… (any recommendations, ladies?!)

Sales of note for 9.10.24

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  1. Anonymous

    So the DNC was a covid spreader event as expected with people now posting test pics and saying it was so worth it. Really?? I mean I’m all in for KH but partying with 15k people with zero precautions and then flying home and exposing your family was SOOO worth it?

    • Anon

      At this point, COVID is endemic and I’d assume any large conference is going to a superspreader event. This is a bizarre post that belongs in 2020, and is not relevant in 2024.

      Those who are immunocompromised and can’t risk getting COVID should not be attending an event like the DNC. The DNC isn’t going to get shut down to avoid spreading something that most people are vaccinated against, the same way they wouldn’t for the flu.

        • Anon

          + another 1 million. Also? If you want to win, channeling a Covid cautious 2020 outlook is not the way to do that.

      • Anon

        I think everyone immune compromised is well aware at this point that they’re unwelcome among Democrats.

        COVID is still in its pandemic phase even if it’s clear that it will be endemic someday.

          • Anon

            Poorly? Republicans and Democrats both push Great Barrington Declaration based policy.

          • Anon

            I am confused by your use of present-tense when there are no longer any shelter-in-place orders or lockdowns, and most people feel that makes total sense considering where we’re at post-vaccine. Are you immunocompromised and feeling abandoned by the fact that the world has resumed normal operations? If so, I’m really sorry – that sounds difficult and I understand the frustration.

          • Anonymous

            Republicans actually have fared worse. There was a 2023 study in the Lancet that showed vaccine uptake was lower in states where the majority voted for Donald Trump in 2020 and among those who have less money and education, less health care access, or less time off from work. These groups were also more likely to be hospitalized or die of the disease.

            Instead of finger pointing though, the better focus is on current vax rates. It’s only a small percentage of what it initially was. That’s as dumb as thinking a one flu shot means you’re good to go from now on. I’m more troubled by that than large gatherings at this point as someone who witnessed hospitals being overrun and had to wait months for a really important surgery due to Omicron.

        • Anon

          What are you talking about? Democrats are the party that took COVID the most seriously by far. Dem Governors are still getting flack for shutting down restaurants and in-person activity and encouraged mask mandates. They are also the party encouraging vaccines and combatting misinformation.

        • Anon

          The world hasn’t really resumed normal operations. For example, at local infusion centers, the nurses no longer mask to protect patients whose immune systems are being wiped out, but they did before the pandemic. The CDC could not care less. The mortality rate for hospital acquired infection remains quite high post vaccine, but standards for transmission prevention have lowered below pre-pandemic norms.

        • Anon

          Oh sure, Republicans are SO careful and considerate toward the immunocompromised! What rock have you been living under, 2:41?

          • Anon

            Did you know that being excluded at Democrat events does not lead to being welcomed among Republicans?

      • Anon

        I think we’re on the cusp of it spreading through our house (negative tests but symptoms and a known exposure) and no one went to the DNC! We are definitely in a wave right now.

        Not sure what OP’s point is – “OMG democrats do not care about COVID”??

          • Anon

            What?!?! Democrats are the ones who’ve taken it seriously every step of the way. I don’t understand what you are going on about.

          • Anon

            This sounds like “Democrats are to blame for Dobbs because it was decided while Biden was in the White House.”

      • Kate

        Right, but what about the folks who are immunocompromised who then are near the folks that go to these superspreader events? I agree the event doesn’t need to shut down or anything dramatic, but we have to acknowledge the risks involved here are a bit more complicated than this comment would suggest.

    • Anon

      In your world, are we supposed to never have any conferences ever again? Nothing about the DNC made it more of a risk for spreading COVID than any other conference, and the risk is baked into the price of hosting it. We are no longer at the stage of the pandemic in which hosting conferences is a no-no, so I’m not sure what you’d expect other than no one ever holding conferences ever again?

      I’ve gotten COVID from visiting family and just living my life normally. I’m not going to halt either of those things for a virus I’m vaccinated against that hasn’t harmed me or anyone I know who is vaccinated.

      • Anon

        Except you don’t actually know if it has harmed anyone you know. Vascular damage is showing up in people years after their initial infections.

      • Anon

        I thought it was a little weird that masks were only permitted specifically for disabled people. I assume that was because they didn’t want protestors.

        I agree that of course the DNC was a super spreader event, and yes no one cares.

        I just wish we could avoid getting COVID from visiting the hospital, doctor, or dentist.

        • Anon

          The RNC was probably a superspreader event as well but they aren’t proudly and loudly posting their tests on social media.

        • Anon

          Wow, I didn’t realize masks were prohibited. That’s wild, even giving the protestor factor.

          • Anon

            I’d really love to see a trusted source for that. It’s not the kind of thing I would take an anonymous stranger’s word for.

        • Anon

          Masks were allowed. Stop spreading misinfo!!

          “The 2024 Democratic National Convention Committee adheres to current guidance from relevant public health authorities regarding COVID-19. Masking is not required at convention events, but any participant desiring to wear a mask is welcome to do so.

          https://demconvention.com/faqs/

          • Anon

            From the same faqs:

            “Can I wear a mask at the United Center or McCormick Place?
            Yes, masks will be allowed if necessary due to a disability. You may be asked to remove your mask when going through security.”

    • Anonymous

      I mean sure why not? 90k people at a Taylor swift concert spreads Covid. My subway commute spreads Covid. The mall spreads Covid. There’s a lot of Covid around and I really do not care.

    • Anonymous

      Yes really. Are you living in a cave? Most of us haven’t taken real precautions In years. Fine if you want to but spare us the faux shock

      • Kate

        As the wife of someone living with the day-to-day impacts of long-haul COVID, these kinds of comments break my heart. You never know for whom a simple COVID diagnosis will be completely life-altering. Trust me – it is shocking to live it.

    • Anon

      Yeah any large event at this point is risky. Either go or don’t go, but expect to be exposed if you go.

      Also you can get Covid without mass events. I haven’t gone to any big events recently, and I and 13 (!) people I know currently have it, plus countless more who are sick and just not testing. Our public schools went back a couple weeks ago and apparently my kid’s elementary was hit hard.

    • Anon

      I just had COVID, and if I’d gotten it from the DNC, I would 100% think it was worth it.

      • Anon

        Yup. I have Covid currently from my kid via an outbreak in her Girl Scout troop. I wish I had gotten it from the DNC!

    • Anon

      A lot of people in my life do complain a LOT about “always being sick” but they don’t ever take steps to avoid COVID during surges. Conversely, a lot of people seem to be masking and stepping back from certain events for at least a short time.

    • Anon

      I did not attend the DNC, but am recovering from my first bout of Covid. I’m not sure where I got it, and it absolutely was not worth it at all. I can’t imagine doing anything that would make me feel like this again, and although I’ve been masking and being Covid avoident, I’m going to double down on protecting myself.

      I’m feeling really bad for the cleaners, hotel maids, waitresses, and other people at the convention who are exposed to so much in their daily lives and can’t really avoid it.

    • Anonymous

      I hear you but given the amount of covid denial on this site since Feb 2020 where cautious people were called crazy plus the love for Harris, don’t expect anyone here to agree with you. Most people here would have attended the DNC even if there were told in advance that covid was a guarantee.

        • Anonymous

          What part is made up? Yes Covid cautious people WERE mocked here even in 2020. I know because I was talking about canceling a trip to Vegas in late Feb 2020 when Covid had already arrived in the US on the west coast and was called all kinds of names by the very open minded inclusive women here.

          As for the political leanings of this board, IDK for sure but people do seem in love with Harris enough to risk disease to see her.

          • Anon

            People were like that at the beginning but the pendulum very quickly swung the other way.

          • Anon

            I reported on doing a big grocery shop (canned goods, dried beans and rice, etc, plus a bunch of cold medicine) in Feb 2020 and people told me that I needed to manage my anxiety.

            I was going off some advice I read that said to be prepared to be home sick for up to 3 weeks (haha).

            What didn’t I think of? Multiple packs of toilet paper… I got one big pack and was glad I did, but could have used another. We did get down to the last roll before we finally found some we could have delivered.

    • Anon

      At this point, most of us have had Covid at least once. I am fully vaccinated with no health conditions that make me high risk. If I had been at the DNC and got Covid, I would absolutely think is was worth it.

      And both times I got it (once at a baseball game and once either at church or Nordstrom), nobody else in my family caught it from me because I test as soon as I feel ill and isolate.

      I completely understand that there are people for whom avoiding Covid (and the flu) is critically important. I isolate and test before visiting my very high-risk father. But for the vast majority of people, Covid is like the flu or a bad cold. Because it is not going anywhere and we have no choice but to live our lives.

    • anonshmanon

      I think large events are back, and that’s just the reality. Maybe saying ‘it was so worth it’ is a bit callous if you think you could have spread it to others, I am trying to put it in perspective with what you might say pre-pandemic. I think if you came home totally energized and fired up from an event where you caught a cold, you’d say totally worth it. On the other hand, if it turned into this big norovirus super spreader event and 35 people ended up hospitalized, maybe you wouldn’t say totally worth it?

      • Anon

        Yeah, I was trying to think of the equivalent – like it was definitely a common joke in my field that if you go to Big Conference, you’re gonna come back with conference crud. I can see how “so worth it!” wouldn’t land well if you’re at serious risk though. And yes, they should have let ppl wear masks – maybe add a security line where you pull them down briefly while IDs are checked or limit it to mouth and nose covered (not full face) but if the TSA can work around the security issue and an iPhone can identify a person wearing a mask, the conference could have figured something out

        • Anonymous

          I really don’t think it was a security issue, even if they say it was (and I don’t know what the official explanation was). It was a perception issue. They did not want a hall full of masked delegates instead of a hall full of diverse smiling faces audibly chanting unmuffled. And frankly, they were right about that.

        • Anon

          They let people wear masks! This is a rumor. I have no idea where it came from but it’s false. I was there.

  2. anon

    How much would you expect to pay for a large fruit pie from a professional baker? I ordered from a friend who is prone to drastically undercharging, and I’d like to pay what’s fair.

  3. Anon

    Just found out that a classmate married and promptly got divorced from a minor European noble with a castle. Yes, I’m signing up for the reunion now. I’m not a bodice-ripper type of person but my head is spinning a bit, making up stories and details in my head.

    • Anonymous

      This is weird. What makes you think your classmate will discus their personal life and divorce with you?

      • Anon

        IDK, but in my small town, it was widely known who the community mouths were and that never changed over time.

      • Anonymous

        One can hope! Why else would you want to go to a reunion if not for the hot gossip?

    • Anon

      Someone I went to elementary school with married a German princess. As in, their wedding was in Vogue. I haven’t talked to that dude since he was 10, but we are SM friends somehow and I confess to a lot of snooping because his life is fascinating to me. They are both extremely good looking which doesn’t hurt either. They appear to still be happily married!

      • Seafinch

        I am in a similar situation (highschool friend is brother of a Countess to a very well know Count) and they just broke up and it was in Tatler and I am sad because my favourite week on Facebook is going to be over, as I adored his documented trips there. Fun fact: My husband’s grandfather was born in their family castle and we have visited the ruins (destroyed during the Russian invasion)

  4. Anonymous

    What are some flags someone is going to be annoying to work with?

    I noticed a former colleague updated his headshot on LinkedIn In with him wearing a bow tie and he’s probably mid to late 30s Totally tracks with the “pick me” he was as a coworker.

      • Anonymous

        Pretty much anyone younger than Gen X wearing one is begging for attention. You just don’t see them much anymore.

        • Anon

          My dentist swears by them. Keeps the tie out of mouths and a plates of spaghetti. Maybe it’s a medical thing but I feel that it’s common among them.

        • Anonanonanon

          I know some fantastic folks in that age group who are bow tie wearers. But I’m also in the South where they are fairly common and aren’t “pick me.” At least imo.

        • Anon

          They suit some people. I don’t see the big issue. I think I kind of like it when people dress retro since they look a little more dressed up vs. some of the goblin mode trends we’ve seen lately (though my own generation was grunge and has no ground to stand on here).

        • Anon

          huh, I always think of Nation of Islam, but wasn’t there some fox news type white guy who also wore them?

        • Senior Attorney

          My husband is 76 and freely admits he wears them for the attention.

    • anon

      guessing whoever wrote this is not the same person who as asking about being more postive this morning:) Really these last two posts make me wonder if i’m on an adult chat board or in middle school.

    • Anon

      This feels mean. Try not to judge what people wear or look like, even if you dislike them for other reasons.

    • Anon

      The bow tie thing seems harsh. My linkedin red flag is people who way overshare their “thoughts” apropos of nothing. And spammers. And people who use it to randomly ask you out.

    • Anon

      I try not to judge people ahead of time. I say this not as some annoying holier-than-thou person, but because I used to and it was a waste of time and energy.

      • Anon

        Very wise perspective.

        If people turn out to be bad, judge them then. Not before for things they haven’t done based on what they wear or superficial markers.

    • Anonymous

      I had a new coworker go on and on about how “humble” she was in my intro meeting with her; spoiler, she is not. She knows how to do everyone’s job better than they do and will absolutely not be told otherwise.

    • Anon

      I saw a young attorney’s picture online and he was wearing a bow tie, which I thought was really weird given his age and the geographical location. Then I saw him try a case, while wearing said bow tie, and he totally owned the courtroom. I learned not to judge the bow tie.

      • anon

        court room attorneys (especially criminal defense ime) often adopt a more noticable or flamboyant appearance (like a pony tail on a man or a handle bar mustache)…. not exactly sure why but it’s definitely prevalent. that’s a mere observation. i don’t have a feeling abut it one way or the other.

        • Anonymous

          Haha one of the best criminal defense attorneys I know is a man with long hair and exclusively wears bow ties.

        • Monte

          It’s because you want your jurors looking at you. Particularly when you are in criminal defense and the facts are usually not on your side, your presentation matters as much as the testimony or exhibits.

          Love a good bow tie. If I find a bow tie pretentious or annoying, it is because I don’t like the wearer a la Tucker Carlson.

        • Runcible

          When I was in the courtroom more often, I called them “defense attorney ponytails.”

    • Nesprin

      I’ve never had any luck with women whose names should end in y or potentially ie but end in i.
      Tiffani, Christi, Melani, Salli, Sandi, etc.

      • Anonymous

        I dated someone named Chris. He dumped me and proceeded to date a Kristi, Christine, and Kristin. I used to make myself feel better by recognizing that my name (not anywhere similar to Chris) meant we were definitely not to be. LOL.

    • Anonymous

      I’ve known one guy who wore bow ties but he could pull it off. Brilliant, very conservative, but more in a pj o’rourke-was-clever kind of way than a Tucker-carlson-fanboy kind of way.

      But I kind of agree otherwise – the presumption is you’re a gunner, not necessarily brilliant.

      Other red flags: people who aren’t nice to their secretary. People who think they’re above 1st year work. One sweetheart I used to work with but he would sometimes “just get fascinated” by my research assignments and then research them on top of my own work. I don’t think he ever went to the partner with but it was kind of annoying.

    • Anon

      My mid-40s husband – pilot, mountain climber, marathoner – wears bow ties almost exclusively when neckwear is needed. He has two attire settings – a page from an REI catalog or 1950s dapper gentleman.

    • Anonymous

      I don’t consider a bow tie a red flag if it’s on somebody who’s generally dapper, but then I do have a soft spot for a hipsters and dandies.

    • anonshmanon

      In nerdy circles bow ties are just a nod to Dr Who, not that unusual.

  5. Anon

    How would you go about finding a real estate agent in a small town who has the patience / savvy to deal with a house that is, at best, a fixer with a lot of deferred maintenance? Like almond formica counters, mix of appliances (some stainless, some also almond), etc. Smallish town but I don’t have any connections to it or know the neighbors. I gather that all I know about real estate changes over the past year apply to buyers vs sellers (seller here). I get that pricing and knowing the market and having maybe access to trades for spiffing up and at least repainting are going to be very helpful (and a pool of people informally in the market).

    • Anonymous

      Drive around and look at the signs in people’s yards, or go on Zillow and look for active sales in the area, or ask around at the local coffee shop/bar/neighbors.

    • Nesprin

      Its worth figuring out if doing the maintenance is going to be worth the cost. It may be that selling as is saves you 6 months of mortgage+ maintenance, or it may be that doing the work will increase sales enough to be worth it. It’d be worth looking at the last 3 months of sales in the area and figuring out the delta for “turnkey ready” vs. “needs updating”.
      In my VHCOL area, there are realty firms (compass) that specialize in doing updating then selling, but smaller town may not have the same sort of thing.

    • anon

      Look for who has the listing in the area. Depending on which area of the country, I will generally exclude anyone with overtly religious content (other than a reference to being on a board or similar) in their bio/webpage. This may be overly judgmental but having been from a small town, I have enough anecdotal data that the bible quotes in a bio are virtue signally and we just won’t click.

      • Anon

        I’m with you on the verses and icthus fishes on the signage. My experience is that those small-town options are the absolute worst service. The chain smoking guy with death metal band stickers on his lunchbox is way better at his job and at being a decent person.

  6. Anon

    For the person or people on the thread who are talking about the COVID pandemic as though we are still in the throes of its peak, can you explain where your head is at? I feel like in my world it is endemic and has similar ramifications as the flu, at least among vaccinated people. No one in my orbit treats surges as cause to adopt additional precautions other than masking on planes or public transport, or quarantining if you have it.

    Are you immunocompromised and that’s why it feels so present-tense? I say this with total nonjudgment, just trying to better understand since it feels like we’re in different worlds and I’d like to have compassion.

    • Anon

      Hey I’ve had it once and would not choose to be that sick again! The COVID vaccine doesn’t prevent me from catching it the way the flu vaccine has always worked for me.

        • Anon

          I’ve only been sick a handful of times since the pandemic started and I’m good abut testing. When I had it the line was immediately positive.

          • Anon

            I mean how do you know the vaccine doesn’t prevent it if you’ve only had it once. Seems like the vaccine is probably helping!

          • Anon

            I had COVID 2 months after a vaccine. And it’s not just me, I am very aware that the vaccine is not preventing transmission widely.

            I don’t see why you would object to someone else not wanting to catch it? That’s pretty obnoxious.

    • Anonymous

      My brother is this person – never had it, doesn’t want it. It’s more long covid that comes terms him than the actual covid, and I just saw some bad stats on long covid that kind of justified this view, I’ll try to find it.

      There was also something about how getting covid while pregnant increased risk of stillbirth.

      We all get to choose what risks are acceptable to us and our families…

      • Anonymous

        I have (had?) long COVID, it really messed me up for 18 months and I’m finally just getting better. I would suggest avoiding it if you can.

    • Anon

      I wasn’t that person, but as an immunocompromised person, life really has been different for us. I have the blessing from my immunologist to begin loosening up on restrictions (after pregnancy is over) and I can’t wait. For me personally, I’m ready to take on more risk again to do more of the things that I want to do, especially with the kid in tow. A lot of other immunocompromised people have it worse than I do and won’t be able to do that; some truly remain very high-risk, whereas people with my condition are now doing better with the current strains of the virus and the treatments available.

    • Anon

      I am not saying this is universally the case at all, but COVID has played out very unhealthily for my family members with (diagnosed) OCD that includes health-related o/c behavior. Subclinical health-related obsessive/compulsive behavior is also a thing, and I think there is some small subset of folks for whom COVID coverage has truly played on their existing mental health issues.

      I want to be very clear that I am not saying that being COVID conscious is inherently a mental health issue. I am saying that some folks who had mental health issues around health anxiety prior to 2020 have had a really hard last four years, and it has also become harder for their support teams and family.

      • Anon

        I agree with this. It’s certainly a subset and not everyone, but there is a minority that is definitely suffering. The early days of the pandemic were potentially really bad for people with OCD or similar issues related to disease. We were encouraged to wash hands obsessively and to clean groceries and things like that that probably really affected a lot of people in a lasting negative way. This group doesn’t necessarily overlap with high-risk groups.

        • Anon

          It’s hard when there is overlap too (one of the higher risk people I know immunologically also has diagnosed OCD, so it’s just hard).

      • anon

        My mom has always been an anxious person, but the pandemic made it a lot worse. It sort of aggravated all those OCD-like tendencies and amplified any symptoms of social anxiety. As a result, her world has become very very small in the past four years. We honestly don’t know what to do about it, and she’s very resistant to the idea of therapy or help of any kind.

        • Anon

          I have a relative whose world become very small for other reasons and it’s something that’s surprisingly hard to grapple with. She can’t engage on topics of importance but can obsess about the contents of her jewelry box. It makes it so hard to connect.

      • anonypotamus

        This resonates with me. My mom has significant anxiety and ocd-like behaviors around germs/handwashing/etc. The precautions that most people took in the early days of COVID were her standard pre-pandemic behavior, and the pandemic just ratcheted up her anxiety and obsessive behaviors. Although she has still not gotten it, like some of the other posters below, her world has shrunk so small. She is convinced that if she is to get it, she will die. Her doctors have advised her that her only risk factor is age (70s) and even seeing my father get it recently and be fine has done nothing to quell her fear. All I can do is keep encouraging her to live her life – what good are more years if you are trapped in your house when you don’t have to be?

        • Anon

          “What good are more years” is really harsh language to talk about a person in their 70s spending a lot of time at home unnecessarily! If she’s truly just thinking about nothing but COVID the whole time, that sounds miserable, and she should seek help for the preoccupation. But jf staying home means she never has to think about it, maybe she’s doing well.

    • Anonymous

      Long covid. The sheer number of 30-50 year olds suddenly have heart attacks or strokes isn’t coincidental. And it doesn’t even need to be that dramatic – there are tons of cases of heart issues requiring a cardiologist or blood sugar issues or cholesterol issues in middle aged healthy people who never had them before. It IS a vascular disease that does age the body, no matter how much anyone wants to say it’s only a cold.

      • Anonymous

        Like half the country is obese or overweight, of course there are tons of strokes and heart attacks in middle aged people with risk factors. That isn’t Covid.

    • Anon

      Basically, yes.

      My household is multiply immune compromised with poor vaccine response, problematic vaccine reactions, and at elevated risk for post-COVID complications (including acute and permanent flare up of pre-existing conditions). The poor outcomes I see in people with the same diagnoses are not captured in general statistics on COVID-19 outcomes. So I feel like my head is in a similar same place as it has been. A lot of the people who were most susceptible to long hospitalizations and horrific ICU deaths already died, but the virus isn’t just safe to catch now for people who can’t rely on vaccines to prevent poor outcomes.

      Transmission is really high right now with a new circulating pandemic variant and another one probably on the way for this winter (by wastewater estimates, which historically tracked pretty well with case data, more than 1 in 40 people in the USA is currently infected). WHO recognizes the pandemic as present tense; as far as I know, it’s only talked about as past tense in political contexts?

      I will say that even for healthy people, I’ve not seen evidence to support the idea that COVID-19 has similar ramifications to the flu for any risk cohort. Aside from all the other differences between the viruses, one bout of the flu typically confers immunity that lasts five years or so, so people just don’t catch it as often over the course of their lifespan. More people end up with new chronic conditions after COVID than after flu. More people end up with dysregulated immunity and for longer; more people experience a new chronic illness, organ damage, or a cardiac event post infection. Just counting long COVID syndrome and not other complications, the lowest recent estimate for long COVID following an infection is around 3%.

      My community continues to suffer from absences and closures during these big waves because some people are just too symptomatic to work sick. COVID-19 is a little unusual in that the way it undermines immune function invites coinfections, so winter waves are especially rough with people getting one infection after another (not just COVID) and sometimes more than one at a time.

      Even before there was ever a vaccine, many people made the observation that a majority of patients experienced the virus as just a cold and made the argument that it was fine to live life as usual. Many people did ignore it from the start and accepted the risks to themselves or others.

      When the vaccine came out, the promise was that it would reduce transmission enough that people wouldn’t need to mask or isolate (and most public indoor spaces would not need to meet higher ventilation or filtration standards for the air) in order to curb transmission, prevent new variants from arising, and protect immune compromised people in the community. But as people dropped suppression measures, the virus quickly evaded immunity to the point that there were fully vaccinated super spreader events. More people have died since then than died before. But vaccinated people who were low risk to begin with were statistically even lower risk once vaccinated, and again the acute symptoms were always cold like for a majority of patients, so they decided to accept the risks that others had already accepted.

      All cause mortality has continued to spike after every wave for as long as we’ve tracked it. Vaccinated people fared better than unvaccinated in the stats, but the only demographic whose mortality wasn’t elevated above pre-pandemic norms were people who hadn’t had COVID at all.

      I respect that people get to choose their own risks to take in life, how much time they want to spend under the weather, and what odds they find acceptable for what outcomes; people are in all kinds of different situations.

    • Anon

      Yeah, I don’t know what world that person is living in. I have older family members who are still very covid cautious due to being older, taking immunosuppressing medication, and having health conditions that could be life threatening if they get sick. I also am somewhat cautious due to having a chronic illness and having always been very prone to bad respiratory infections that turn into weeks of post viral asthma flare ups. But none of us would say that the entire world should shut down forever and nobody should participate in any kind of large group activity like the DNC. We would advocate for making events as inclusive as possible (enabling virtual attendance at events where it makes sense, not necessarily the DNC), making it acceptable for people to mask or opt out of things they deem too high risk, better sick leave so people don’t have to go to work sick (and social encouragement not to), and better ventilation.

      • Anon

        We need better quarantine and source control practices in obligatory attendance contexts too. My high risk friend needed an emergency antibiotic infusion on a weekend and ended up in the ER. They’d divided the ER waiting room to route actively sick people to one side, and people not visibly coughing and sneezing the other. No one else there was masked. There was no option to wait outside or in another room. It’s great that respirators work as well as they do, but this is still not how we should be doing things in 2024. Even once she was admitted, her team struggled to come up with a protocol for ensuring staff would mask before entering her room; this needs to be a familiar and routine thing. Nosocomial COVID-19 infections have mortality between 5-10%, presumably because this is where the highest risk people encounter infection while at their most medically vulnerable.

        • Anon

          Agree 100%. It’s shameful we haven’t dedicated the resources needed for these basic steps – and ventilation in the workplace and in schools is still a joke.

      • Anon

        I don’t think that people are shocked that large group gatherings like the DNC are super spreader events, but rather the tone of the social media posts. There is a certain unlying glee in the way people are putting up pictures of their positive test strips and basically laughing at the fact that they helped spread it at the convention and in the airports on their way home.
        I actually read one that said “TeeHee, so sorry for anyone on my flight. Worth it!”

    • Anonymous

      Some of us have a stack of risk factors: age, specific medical conditions, etc. that make the risks of a severe case much higher. And we are now at more risk than before because hardly anyone we encounter is now taking any precautions.

    • Kate

      My husband is fully vaccinated. He also now suffers from long-haul COVID. There is no yet-identified rhyme or reason why many people recover just fine, and some are afflicted with long-term symptoms for which medicine has identified no real cure or even symptom-suppressing treatments to date. For folks like my family, it would be amazing of people would keep in mind that, for some of us, a simple COVID diagnosis was completely life-altering for everyone in my family. We continue to struggle with it day to day. For us, it is not in the rearview. It is very, very much our present.

  7. anon

    would like to go to disney again either two adults or two adults and a teen. overwhelmed. how does one plan such a trip?

    • Anonanonanon

      Disney planner? If not that, there are a lot of blogs with ideas of itineraries. I used a planner for my first trip but after that copied a blog. The new ride reservation system is candidly daunting and I haven’t gone since it’s changed. But Disney planners are usually really helpful with tips on that stuff.

    • Anonymous

      We used a Disney planner – it doesn’t cost more and she was a great resource for last minute questions.

      If you don’t want to stay on site see if you can do the Swan & Dolphin hotel – I think that’s it? Still has buses to the parks but you can use credit card points. It’s been booked solid every time I’ve checked.

      With Genie+ it’s really easy to get on most rides.

      We stayed at Port Orleans and it was fine (great cocktail jazz lounge).

    • Anon

      I think people overcomplicate Disney. It’s just a theme park. You can stay on-site (we also did Port Orleans) and it was fine; there are free busses to the parks. The ride reservation system is something you can figure out — it’s a phone app.

      But if finding a planner takes this off your shoulders, then do that. They are usually free, so just google “Disney planner” in your area and start there.

      • Anonymous

        Agreed. Spend a few evenings reading blog posts on it, identify your must dos, and leave the rest open.

      • Anon

        Yeah, I go every year. I feel like you can maximize your experience in terms of rides with a lot of planning, but I don’t want to be that stressed out. I like wandering the park anyway.

    • Anon

      We’re going in the fall (to Land) and I just bought tickets with Lightning Lane included and other than that am mostly planning to just show up. I don’t want to do the intense planning thing. My kid is younger though (7) and I think will enjoy the vibes even if we don’t get on many rides.

      • Anonymous

        Just to be clear: Disneyland is very different than Disney World. You do not need a planner for Disneyland. You do need a planner for DisneyWorld. Dining reservations alone require significant advance planning. I generally do not care about that because I don’t go to disney to eat, but a lot of people do.

    • Kate

      Hit up the Disney blogs and influencers. They have great real-time info. Easy to Google them.

  8. Anon

    You know those humorous videos that replace the music track of dance videos with the sounds of sneakers squeaking on the gym floor?

    I have one pair of sneakers that annoyingly squeak just like that on my wood floors. A lot. My other sneakers don’t do it. Any tips for making it stop? I could probably put powder all over the floor to stop the squeaking, but couldn’t afford the subsequent ambulance bills.

  9. Anon

    A company has a job opening that my friend would be perfect for. Friend applied through the automated system, and I forwarded his resume to a friend of mine at that company with a mini letter of recommendation in the text of the email (a few sentences about how great he is, etc). My friend sent in an official employee referral through their internal system and sent an email to HR. Friend has told me to message HR on LinkedIn and follow up. That step feels super intrusive to me, but maybe it’s commonplace and I don’t know it?

    • Anon

      No, I wouldn’t do that. It would be weird to message somebody on LinkedIn when you work for the same organization. I think you’ve done enough!

      • Anon

        Sorry for confusion – there’s Friend 1 who wants the job and Friend 2 who works at the company with the opening.

        • Cat

          Still no. It’s now in Friend 2’s court if Friend 2 thought it looked like a good candidate and wants to check with HR on status.

    • Anon

      You’ve done enough. I kept pushing a friend (1) at another company to hire a friend (2) of mine who I thought would be absolute perfection there. What they were looking for was basically like Friend 2’s entire career. I could not figure out why nothing was moving with Friend 1, and finally Friend 1 told me they would not be interviewing or hiring Friend 2 because they already knew about 2 and had decided a long time ago not to pursue them.

      I was so embarrassed because I kept telling 2 that I was pushing on 1 and 2 had no idea they’d been blackballed a long time ago. I feel like I made it worse.

        • Anon

          Someone high up had worked with Friend 2 years prior and just did not like them/ did not think as highly of their skills as I clearly did.

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