Frugal Friday’s Workwear Report: Marcia Wide-Leg Pants

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A woman wearing black wide-leg pants, plaid top, and black high-heel sandals

Our daily workwear reports suggest one piece of work-appropriate attire in a range of prices.

If you’re looking to try out the wide-leg pants trend, this pair from By Design is a great way to give it a shot without breaking the bank. I like the front seams, which give a slightly elongating feel (especially good for the short-legged among us).

They come in black, sand, and navy, perfect for all your neutral needs.

The pants are $39.97 at Nordstrom Rack and come in sizes 0–14.

These similar By Design pants are available in plus sizes (0X–3X) and are $44.97 at Nordstrom Rack.

Hunting for more wide-leg pants to wear to work? In 2025, general favorites include pleated pairs like Favorite Daughter, Everlane*, Reformation*, and Abercrombie*, with flat-front pairs from Good American,* M.M.LaFleur, and Ann Taylor (* = plus sizes; see the post for notes on petites and talls). We've also shared our thoughts on what shoes to wear with wide-leg pants!

Sales of note for 1/16/25:

  • M.M.LaFleur – Tag sale for a limited time — jardigans and dresses $200, pants $150, tops $95, T-shirts $50
  • Nordstrom – Cashmere on sale; AllSaints, Free People, Nike, Tory Burch, and Vince up to 60%; beauty deals up to 25% off
  • AllSaints – Clearance event, now up to 70% off (some of the best leather jackets!)
  • Ann Taylor – Up to 40% off your full-price purchase; extra 50% off sale
  • Banana Republic Factory – 50% off everything + extra 20% off
  • Boden – 15% off new styles with code — readers love this blazer, these dresses, and their double-layer line of tees
  • DeMellier – Final reductions now on, free shipping and returns — includes select options like Montreal, Vancouver, and Venice
  • Eloquii – $29 and up select styles; extra 50% off all clearance, plus ELOQUII X kate spade new york collab just dropped
  • Everlane – Sale of the year, up to 70% off; new markdowns just added
  • J.Crew – Up to 40% off select styles; up to 50% off cashmere
  • J.Crew Factory – 40-70% off everything
  • L.K. Bennett – Archive sale, almost everything 70% off
  • Rothy's – Final Few: Up to 40% off last-chance styles
  • Sephora – 50% off top skincare through 1/17
  • Spanx – Lots of workwear on sale, some up to 70% off
  • Summersalt – BOGO sweaters, including this reader-favorite sweater blazer; 50% off winter sale; extra 15% off clearance
  • Talbots – Semi-Annual Red Door Sale – 50% off + extra 20% off, sale on sale, plus free shipping on $150+

123 Comments

  1. I just wanted to leave a recommendation here for the air purifiers from CleanAirKits.

    After researching air purifiers for weeks, we ordered their DIY Power of Tower. It is EXTREMELY quiet even though it has 10 fans, is portable, and cheap to maintain since you only buy commercially available HVAC filters for it (e.g. at Home Depot).
    The look of the units may not be for everyone, as they are clearly not an Apple-level of design, but with multiple people with allergies and asthma in our home we care more about air quality than looks, and they haven’t disappointed.

    1. I can also vouch for Coway air purifiers (the ones recommended by Wirecutter). The highest setting is too loud for everyday use, but that thing works. We have a PurpleAir sensor and have done a few experiments during wildfire smoke days and while cooking. You can monitor the improvement of the air in real time as the purifier is turned on.

  2. late in reporting back from Greece:
    Thank you for all of your tips.
    We went in September for 16 days, with perfect weather. We were told that July and August this year were particularly brutal in terms of heat.
    I get seasick and brought the non dozy dramamine plus Hylands motion sickness tablets and they worked wonders. I also did not eat prior to any ferry ride.

    We loved Crete~hotel was tiny and sweet~ Four Seasons of Bliss at Rethymno, Argiroupli mountain village, Samaira Gorge for serious hiking. We did side trips to local beaches and visited Chania which was a lovely little town.
    We loved Naxos..Plaka Beach (especially all of the food!), and would not recommend Santorini as it is like a mall, so touristy with all of the cruise ships. There were beautiful hikes there though the hike from Fira to Oia was beautiful. The Athens hotel The Foundry Suites was good and walkable for 2 days to see all of the sights and the Monastraki Flea was fun, the Atlantikos for dinner! SO fresh, local and very affordable $.

  3. Someone asked about easy face makeup for mature skin – I’ve tried and loved the following and found them fairly easy to apply (I do have makeup brushes which improves the final look but I’ve also applied with fingers and it was a solid B).
    Blush – hourglass ambient lighting blush ‘radiant’ finish – combines blush and highlighter without being too shiny. Rare beauty melting cream blush – imho easier to use than the liquid one. Westman atelier blush – gorgeous formula, super moisturizing but $$ and did irritate my eczema (very personal, my SIL with eczema loves them). Milk makeup/Nars the multi/Ilia blush sticks – all very light and easy to blend but irriatated my picky skin. Now is a great time to buy as all the holiday sets with minis are out.
    Highlighter – all of the above are great options. The rare beauty is my personal favorite but it is SO delicate. My second fave option is to mix liquid highlighter/blush together and apply with fingertips (dot and then blend) – I use rare beauty mostly because my annoyingly picky skin likes the formulas.

    1. Mature skin here. Mine loves Dr Jart Premium BB cream and Bobbi Brown pot rouge. Under eyes I use a good eye cream then apply the Bobbi Brown corrector stick and blend with a good brush.

      1. This is so true – I find using concealer in key areas and then skipping foundation makes for a better look. Foundation is starting to get weirdly cake-y on me unless I do a load of prep that I’m not interested in dealing with daily.

        1. Same. I use a primer, concealers as necessary, and a very light dusting of a translucent setting powder. The concealer that will cover a spot is cakey if used under my eyes, so I use a different one there. Foundation is not kind to my mature skin, and anyway I use such emollient moisturizers that it would pool anyway.

  4. For folks who cook and bake- what paid cooking/recipe sites do you subscribe to and find worth the money and you get the most use out of? I feel like more and more the sites the have what I’m googling for are paid, so I’m thinking of just subscribing to one or two.
    I mostly am looking for reliable recipes for every day cooking and baking.

    1. Great question! I’m not subscribed to anything yet but I’ve been debating subscriptions to NYT Cooking & Americas Test Kitchen – anyone have reviews on either of those?

      1. I subscribe to the NY times and get the cooking section as part of it. It has been helpful to get me out of cooking ruts.

        1. Same!

          I also have a login on Epicurious, but have not paid for a membership since they switched over to a paid model. I just find the recipes that look interesting in incognito windows now, then I can save them to my recipe box at some point.

      2. I posted below. Cooks Illustrated is I think ATK. I find them very fussy for day to day cooking but if you really want to make your own sourdough and that kind of thing, it’s great. NYT is the best.

        1. They are fussy, but I find them invaluable for recipes/techniques that are new to me. For cooking, I make the recipe exactly as they say once to get a feel for what’s essential and what’s not, then make it my own (which tends to be much more improvisational).
          For baking, the fussiness is more necessary – for me baking is chemistry and going off-script tends to break things. I do more cooking than baking.

    2. NYT Cooking App and Smitten Kitchen (I would not hestitate for a second to pay Deb if she went to an app).

    3. NYT Cooking, which is free with their regular online paper subscription. It’s my most frequent go-to. I used to also get Cooks Illustrated but I found a lot of their recipes to be unnecessarily fussy whereas NYT a has all kids of recipes from basic to eleborate. Cooks Illustratedis great if you’re super into it but not for me in my current stage of life (i do subscribe to their emails and they always send some free recipees; you just have to remember to print them or save them as PDF somewhere because they are only accessible for a limited time).

      1. NYT Cooking isn’t included with all NYT online subscriptions. :( I have an educational subscription to the NYT and I can access all the news and features and columns, but I can’t get Cooking or the Games section.

        1. +1, I just have the basic subscription and get annoyed when I click on their newsletter links with recipes and don’t have access to the recipes. I forget how much extra per month it is.

          1. It’s an extra $5/month, although I think if you buy a whole year at once you get a discount.

    4. None.
      I search for recipes on pinterest, and also collect old cookbooks, so there would never be any need for me to pay to access anything.

      1. Ha, was coming here to say the same thing. Pinterest or my collection of cookbooks – a few modern ones, but plenty of vintage Junior League cookbooks and the like. My most cherished cookbook is a small town cookbook written in the 1980s by a former caterer in her 90s – she catered the area’s weddings and parties for 50 years, and every single one of those recipes is delicious and straightforward. Nothing annoys me more about modern recipes than a million steps and ingredients and after all that work having it just turn out “fine.” (Like the others, I’ll put in the work for ATK or Cook’s Illustrated, though, because you know it’s going to be worth it.)

        Have you thought about checking out cookbooks from the library?

    5. I’ve been a devoted paid subscriber of Americas Test Kitchen for years. I use it not just for recipes, but also recommendations on kitchen tools/pots/pans and their taste test/ingredient reviews. I don’t seem to have as much luck with NYT cooking recipes working out very well the way that most everyone else seems to, but an ATK recipe always turns out exactly how I’m hoping.

      1. Same. I think ATK is worth it. I didn’t want to pay for the app forever though so I have a few of their cookbooks, including their big anthology one, and use them all the time. Cooking for Two and Bread Illustrated are my absolute favorites. I make ATK recipes multiple times a week and don’t find them to be particularly burdensome/hard and they are reliably excellent.

        I’m meh on NYT. I bought their anthology cookbook and have made many recipes using my one free recipe off their site, but I always find their recipes don’t come out that great. I think maybe I need more instruction a la ATK.

    6. SORTED food sidekick for meal planning.

      Budget bytes, BBC food, Sainsburys magazine for free recipes.

    7. NYT cooking. And maybe I paid for Paprika when I signed up but I don’t think there’s a monthly charge.

      And on the subject of favorite apps with paying for – the HP 12C simulator. If you know, you know.

      1. I love to check out cookbooks from the library a lot, but i’m finding that when I have very specific meal planning needs, looking online gets better results. (ie I need an InstantPot recipe that uses up the millet and kale I have in the fridge…). Cookbooks tend to be good when I’m planning before the grocery run.

    8. I use NYT Cooking, which I get free from the library, and cookbooks, which I also often try at the library before buying. I do own a number of the Cooks Illustrated and ATK cookbooks, though, so I assume their website might also be worth paying for if you don’t already own their books. I own too many print books, so now I generally wait to buy books until the kindle version is on sale for a few dollars, but the ATK books never go below $7.99 or so, and I still buy those when a good one comes out. I also use the King Arthur books and free web recipes.

    9. I use Paprika….which lets me save recipes from NYTimes even when I’m not logged in. Make of that what you will :)

    10. NYT Cooking is the only siyeI pay for, but it’s part of my all access subscription. Fave free sources for reliable recipes are Smitten Kitchen, Maangchi for Korean recipes, Cook with Manali for Indian, the Perfect Loaf for bread, and King Arthur Baking for other baking & bread.

  5. A while ago I asked if it’s worth it to pay more for the polyester tops from brands like Banana Republic and Ann Taylor. Reporting back that you all were so right. What a difference! This polyester feels so much silkier and thicker than my other tops. Thank you!

    1. I tried on a really beautiful synthetic fabric blouse at J Jill the other night. I am traveling and there’s an actual mall close to my hotel. I never go to the mall so it was like I was a tourist there.

      Anyway it’s a dark green button front shirt type blouse. I think they had it in one other color. It’s heavier weight and substantial, not even close to sheer. I didn’t buy it because my boobs were boobing boobaciously in it, and they didn’t have the next size up in stock at the store, but I might go to the website and get the right size. It really is a lovely blouse.

      https://www.jjill.com/product/soft-luxe-button-front-shirt-276151-1?color=314

      1. Note that this is modal rayon, not polyester. My experience with modal & rayon is that is shrinks like crazy and wrinkles like crazy. Unless you are willing to wash on cold, air dry then steam, I’d take a pass. It is beautiful though.

    2. The Jcrew Cupro blouses are similarly great, they sometimes need some steaming but I buy them on sale and constantly get compliments on them.

  6. I am hoping for some help in finding my words. I’m going to my parents for Christmas for the first time in 4 years. I am planning on staying at a hotel, because (a) I am in a transactional practice with year end deadlines and would like space to work if needed (and just … space more generally); (b) I do not want to sleep in a single trundle / pull out bed in the den of my parents’ one bedroom apartment for a week; and (c) I find my parents very difficult to be around for long stretches of time. They have fallen into the Fox News rabbit hole, they’re very negative about the world, and they’re also extremely Christian (church 3-4x /week) and I am none of these things.

    They are going to be very hurt by this. Any recommendations on the best way to tell them? I am thinking I will blame work and needing space to sleep, vs “I don’t want to stay with you because I need somewhere to go when you start telling me that I should have had kids by now and the divorce was my fault for not being a good enough wife”. Or it is better to just say “I would prefer to stay at a hotel so I am going to” and not give them anything to argue against?

    The hotel is approximately a 10 minute walk away.

    1. I would focus on the work aspect, if it were me. That seems much more non-negotiable than just needing space.

    2. “I need to stay at a hotel because of my work schedule this time of year. It really can’t be helped.”

    3. Why a whole week? That’s a long visit! Is going for just the long weekend not ok?

      If they are argumentative types I wouldn’t give them “reasons” for the hotel since they will counter them. “Space to work? You have the whole den! We’re so quiet and won’t bother you!” kind of stuff. I would just say “I decided to get a hotel just down the street, it will be easy to run over to spend time with you” and stop there.

      1. This is the answer. Great script. And when they ask for explanations or push back, you say “the hotel works better for me.” And then when they push again, you reply with “Like I said, the hotel works better for me.” Repeat. Repeat. Repeat. You are drawing an appropriate boundary; hold the boundary. You don’t owe them explanations and any explanation you give will not be satisfactory.
        What your parents may not realize is they’re actually more likely to see you again for a holiday if you stay at a hotel than if you stay at their house. This is a win for them, even if they never see it that way.

      2. I’m going for the week because it’s a 12 hour trip (flight to the other coast & then a drive to their small town) and it seemed silly to go for a shorter time! And because I while I find them very difficult, I’m trying to be cognizant that they’re both old and sick, they’re not going to be around a lot longer, and they did really try to be present for me when I told them I was getting divorced. They were ineffectual, but they tried. This is also my first Christmas post divorce and I think there’s a part of me that’s hoping being around family will make it easier.

        I think you’re right, any argument I have will be rebutted so just stating a fact will be easier.

    4. I would go with the last one “I would prefer to stay at a hotel so I am going to”. And if it feels true… I am excited to see you!
      In my experience, if you offer an explanation on a no answer then people (my family) will try to unpack it/find a resolution that works for them.

      Be brief, be calm, be gone.

    5. I would say that I’m probably going to need to do some work, and need space to work and will be on calls, so don’t want to disturb them. To any objections, I’d repeat I need to some work but we’ll spend plenty of time together.

    6. Good for you on deciding to stay at a hotel when visiting your parents. That’s the smart choice in this situation. As far as what to say to your parents, you should say you will stay at a hotel and leave it at that. Even the most obtuse will understand why you would prefer a hotel vs being subject to their criticisms and sleep on a trundle bed. When they try to convince you to stay with them, remember why you made this decision and don’t cave.

    7. I did this a few years ago when the parents’ house was going to be a bit too full for me. I would go with “I want to make sure I have the right space without bothering you to get my work done.” any further pushback gets “I would prefer to stay at a hotel, so I am going to.” nothing more! You’re a grownup and get to make grownup decisions.

    8. If your parents are anything like my mom, it would make a world of difference to her if my work was paying for the hotel. I might just say that work offered to pay for me to stay in a hotel to have some kind VPN access/other computer thing and I am going to stay at a hotel 10 min away. Not sure what your comfort level is with a white lie like that but I would not overthink it in a similar situation.

      1. I like this. I’ve also used, I’m required to keep confidential client files under lock and key. Not sure if that would work under these circumstances; I’ve used it when I, the single person, am relegated to the couch while everyone else gets bedrooms.

      2. Another white lie ish option – I’m excited to see the family but ‘m going to have to work some too (ugh work), and I want to be able to fully relax and just be with you when I’m at your house. And hotel as “office” gives you that mental space…

      3. YES. My mom is the same way. She never had a job that would pay for anything like that so it’s pretty much too good to pass up.

      4. Don’t do this. The white lie about work paying for it sounds like the set up for a bad 90s sitcom. Hijinks ensue when the family somehow now assumes that work will pay for a variety of expensive costs. Does work pay for your vacation hotels? The adult solution is just a combination of honest and tactful.

          1. Of course life isn’t a 90s sitcom. That’s my point too. And therefore a person shouldn’t act like they’re in one by telling dumb lies that will only complicate the situation.

    9. I like your script. If you want to soften it a bit, you might try “I just feel like it will be easier for everybody.” They can argue all they want but your feelings are your feelings.

    10. I think you are but just to confirm – are you an attorney? If so, I would blame work – say you need a private space to work. Perhaps your firm requires it and has been clamping down since more people have been working remotely?

      1. Actually I retract my post and would go with Cat’s script above. That is better..

      2. Really? I would do this. Although it would give my parents the opportunity to complain about my job yet again, they wouldn’t feel hurt by it.

        1. I mean realistically I would use with my original reason. :) I just think Cat’s prevents solution finding that might come next. It depends how big their apartment is too – if the den is an actual private space, then it’s harder to use my reasoning.

    11. No excuses, just do. If you want to be treated like an adult, you have to act the part.

        1. PS – this doesn’t mean you need to be unkind about it. The script is basically “M&D I’m so excited to see you for Christmas this year. I’ll be in town from X to X. What can I bring? What are you thinking for dinners, would you like to?” “Oh thanks so much for the offer to stay but I’ll be at Ye Old Charming Inn. No thank you. I’ll be at the hotel. Let’s discuss what we’re going to do. Should we invite the Smiths over on the 23rd.”

        2. Yup, agreed. I think part of the reason people push through the excuses we are give – the things like “oh I need to stay at a hotel for work because it’s confidential…” is because they sound like excuses, and people know that you are not being honest with them. your layering on their frustration with that Probably better just to rip the Band-Aid off and set the boundaries where they need to go

    12. For my parents, I’d go with the work argument. Gives a solid reason, least personally offensive. And then they have an answer if a nosy neighbor or relative asks why you’re not staying with them (maybe that’s just important for my parents…). Something like, “I’m worried about my work deadlines, so I’ve booked a hotel room down the street. That way I can be really productive first thing in the morning and at night. I expect to be at your house the rest of the day.”

    13. Commiseration. I don’t understand why people get so up in arms about guests not wanting to stay with them when they make it very uncomfortable – physically and emotionally – to do so. My mother insists I stay with her but then complains about hosting me (while refusing help). Lord forbid I get something on the sheets or towels; I’m still hearing about mascaragate from 14 years ago. Either let me do the laundry or don’t complain when I stay in a hotel.

      (And if you’re thinking, just do the laundry what do you mean she doesn’t “let” you, I’m glad you have not experienced the level of criticism that I have. What are you doing to my machine get away from it you’re going to break it you’re messing up my settings don’t touch that why are you using that setting that’s wrong, you’re using too much/not enough detergent that’s wasteful/won’t get anything clean, don’t use that detergent use this one, how are you 40 years old and don’t even know how to do laundry no wonder your husband left you and you’ve been single so long you’ll never find a husband guess you should’ve held onto the last one).

      1. It’s not rational, not in the least, but I think it’s psychologically distressing to some of my family members if I don’t want to stay at their house. Ditto on spending money. When my daughter was about 4, she spent the weekend at my in-laws and I forgot to pack spare underpants. Instead of driving 10 minutes to a big-box store and buying a $7 pack of kids’ underpants, my MIL did four tiny loads of laundry in 48 hours so my kid always had clean drawers if said kid wasn’t in her swimsuit. This is routinely brought up as evidence of my terrible working-parent mothering.

        I once read something about how you’re sort of perpetually 17 to some parents – old enough to drive but not old enough to be an actual adult.

          1. Honestly, I am going to be the World’s Smugest Individual when a neurologist finally confirms what I have suspected for years, that there is Something Very Wrong going on in her head. Her sons are in complete denial.

    14. Just a quick note to say I did this a few years ago—I told them it’s just more comfortable now that I’m an adult to have some bathroom privacy, be up late without worrying I’m disturbing anyone, hop on fast WI-FI to get some work out, etc. My dad took it hard the first time or two and now it’s not even a second thought, I also noted that I get a free stay after a certain number of nights, so that also probably helped see it as not a huge extravagance, Once you do this a time or two future self will thank you. I visit them a lot more frequently now.

  7. Has anyone come across good resources for prepping for interviews with non-lawyers for mid-career in house counsel roles? Specifically, I’d love to see any articles, videos, etc of examples of lawyers answering with concise STAR responses. I struggle with how to answer with engaging, specific examples without disclosing confidential info, and I have trouble making the “action” and the “result” strong enough without making it seem as though I think legal is driving business decisions/results on our own.

  8. Are there any great 3-5 day relaxing destination vacations in between LA and NYC? Trying to get a couples’ vacation together with some good friends…

    1. We did an AirBnB in Palm Springs with a similar group. It’s not too hard to get to from the East Coast. It combines all of my favorite things: drinking, being warm, sitting near a pool, being around old people.

    2. What is your budget? Blackberry Farm (and Blackberry Mountain) is amazing. It is pricey though.

    3. Colorado is near the middle and Denver is a huge hub. The ski towns are fun in the summer and a little less crowded. Minnesota/Great Lakes states have tons of lake cabins for the summer.

  9. My parents (dad in hospice, mom with Alzheimer’s) want to cancel their timeshare. I’m their power of attorney. The timeshare agreement is with a company based in Branson, Missouri. My parents and I live in Minnesota. The timeshare company isn’t returning calls or email about this (I’m not surprised).

    My parents don’t seem to have the officially recorded deed. I was able to look up and download an unofficial copy of the recorded deed from a website associated with the appropriate county in Missouri (Taney County).

    In order to cancel the deed (aka “deed it back”; I’m not sure about the precise language to use here), do I need to work with an attorney in Missouri? If so, do you have any referrals to someone in the Branson area? Or is it feasible for their family attorney in Minnesota to make this happen?

      1. That’s what I did with my parents’ timeshares and eventually they just went away. It may have wrecked their credit but they were in their 90s and it didn’t matter.

    1. all the answers you need can be found on a “timeshare users group” forum.
      https: // tugbbs. com /forums/
      These people LIVE on these forums and it’s all there for you.

      I own a timeshare but have never given one back, but the options are usually
      1) the giveback depends on who the company/developer is, sometimes they don’t actually let you do that.
      or in the alternative you can 2) sell it to someone for a nominal amount which is very popular on TugBBS.

      in both cases yes you do need an attorney to transfer deed, and tug bbs have a roster of ‘timeshare lawyers’ that they really like. good luck!

    2. I would start with the attorney in Minnesota.

      Is the company headquartered in Branson or is the timeshare located there? Is there a local office you can go to?

      1. OP here. The company is headquartered in Branson, AND the timeshare is also located there.

    3. I would try this firm, their page says that they specialize in timeshare fraud among other things. Link to follow.

  10. I’m looking for recommendations for shower curtains, but my needs are super-specific:
    – must be vinyl/PEVA
    – must have a pattern that obscures views of the showerer, but also lets in light
    – must be heavy enough to not suck in and stick to the showerer

    Our bathtub is in a corner, with a sizeable window in one of the walls. We’ve tried applying film to the window, but DH still isn’t comfortable with showering in front of it without a curtain to obscure views. (He comes by it honestly, because we can see our neighbors with the same setup and have really seen some things!) The best solution is to get two vinyl shower curtains, because we need to span 3 sides of the bathtub including one side against the wall.

    I used to be able to get good ones at Bed, Bath & Beyond (RIP). The last time around, I got two at Target, but they’re so lightweight that they roll up on the edges and the convection of the shower causes them to suck in on us from time to time, which is gross. Anyone with good options? TIA!

    1. Sorry if you’ve considered and dismissed this option, but what about hanging a curtain just in the actual window? Why does it have to be a full shower curtain?

      1. It’s a good question. We tried to hang a curtain with a tension rod, but the rod wouldn’t stay up. The window well and wall above it are tiled, and the condensation made the rod slip.

    2. We had the same setup in our first place, amd honestly the only thing that worked was dark fabric curtains that I washed every week or so…

    3. Why not a vinyl liner with a thicker fabric decorative curtain? Or do something with the window, like putting some decorative film over it.

      1. We have a clear liner and fabric curtain it does not feel dark but you cannot see anything inside. But if I am understanding correctly the issue is the window more than the shower – how do you get in and out of the tub???? What’s wrong with an actual shade for the window?

    4. I thought everyone uses a vinyl liner that hangs inside the tub, ideally with magnets at the bottom. The magnets keep it in place so no water leaks. Then you add a decorative curtain that hangs outside the tub and provides privacy. I’ve only seen a single curtain at hotels. They’re unattractive and get water everywhere.

      1. She needs something on the tiled “wall” side of the shower to block a window, not the open side.

    5. Replace the glass or the window. We had this and nothing works that doesn’t look ridiculous or get in the way. You can get opaque glass that you actually cannot see through. Whether you do the whole window or just the glass depends on what you have. It’s a more expensive but a real solution you’ll never have to think about again.

    6. We have a walk out basement with a bathroom window that is eye level with our patio. We did find a film that was opaque enough to work- someone can stand right up next to the glass and you can see vague shadows but that’s it. If you get a light curtain that’s the best you’ll do anyway. You may want to try a couple of other option.

    7. Amazon has heavy rated curtains (plastic has a rating term for thickness and weight but I don’t remember it). They are a thick and do not blow in. There are transparent versions and frosted versions.

      I buy the transparent version (I have little kids) and then I cut them down to size for my bathtub opening.

      They were probably in $10-30 range.

    8. What about a stained glass or very busy window film + tension rod organizer to put bottles etc?

      Like this
      Coavas Window Privacy Film Stained Glass Window Clings: Decorative Window Tinting Film for Home Anti-UV Frosted Glass Window Film Heat Control Door Covering Non-Adhesive Window Stickers 17.7″ x 78.7″ https://a.co/d/esNmn7R

  11. Traffic is slow around here today. Is it a holiday and no one told me? I don’t really want to actually work.

      1. +1, in the Midwest. In talking with a coworker there is a similar holiday in the DC area.

      2. Sadly I don’t have kids (yet – currently pregnant) so still working, but planning to log off early!

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