Weekend Open Thread

Ivanka Trump ClaudineSomething on your mind? Chat about it here.

It’s not quite holiday party season just yet, but I think it’s never too early to look for a comfortable pair of shoes that also looks a bit special. I really like the gold leather bits, and I think the exposed platform works here. The black/gold combo strikes me as a classic, whereas the teal (pictured), hot pink, and royal versions seem like fun, trendy takes (and would add that little somethin’ somethin’ to a black cocktail dress). The Claudine pump is $145 at Zappos. Ivanka Trump – Claudine (Dark Teal/Modern Gold) – Footwear

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  1. Anon for this :

    Is anybody else getting these crazy “In the Raw” adds at the top that have two cupcakes blurred out so they clearly look like b**bs? Really awkward.

    Love the shoes, by the way. Love.

    • Former MidLevel :

      Yes, I’ve been getting those ads, too. Totally hate them.

    • Yep – even though they look like b**bs, still made me want cupcakes!

    • Cupcakes? Did somebody mention cupcakes?

    • I don’t have that one, but recently I had this animated ad with a woman in her bra attaching one of those faux-camisoles to herself. It was very distracting and I’m glad it’s gone. Although now that I’ve described it, it’ll probably return…

      PS count me in for cupcakes, please!

    • Honey Pillows :

      The Dear Young Buck made Canadian Breakfast Stout cupcakes with bourbon vanilla frosting last week. There’s two left. Sharesies?

      • manomanon :

        I can top that… I have half a dozen Irish Car Bomb cupcakes left from a party… because they were the ugly ones and I saved them for later… Guinness cake, Jameson filling, Bailey’s frosting
        SO GOOOOD
        I can share too!

        • Honey Pillows :

          Filling? Dayyyyuuuum. That’s hard core.

          • manomanon :

            it’s the only way to be… and I’m seriously into baking
            fondue cupcakes coming up!

          • woooooo!! you are my shero, manomanon! I will be dreaming of fondue cupcakes. ^A Million HiveFives^

        • I literally cannot think straight after reading these two comments.

          Irish car bomb Boilermaker cupcakes?

          I am just.. what.. where am I?

          • ok, it’s time for someone to invent “Fondue Cupcakes” … .Now, please.

          • Press Chic :

            To zora
            Googled it, found a bunch. Like I really needed another way to add to my bum and thighs…

          • Press Chic: :::SCCREEEEECHHHH:::: WHA?! wow, i was thinking that something that incredible couldn’t possibly EXIST already, so I didn’t even look! wow, i just can’t even absorb how amazing this is…. thank you for LetMeGoogleThatForYou-ing for me ;)

        • They’re not from Baked&Wired, are they? I’ve had the exact same cupcake before, and jealous doesn’t begin to describe my current feelings ;)

          • manomanon :

            Mine are made from scratch- I amended the recipe from a blog I found
            I’m curious about the recipe the Dear Young Buck had though… Sounds exciting
            Also love that nickname

          • @manomanon: Even better! Would you mind sharing the recipe? I’d love to make these for St. Patrick’s Day and just because :)

          • S in Chicago :

            Just got back from a trip to DC. Just wanted to say Baked & Wired was the highlight. Had the peanut-butter frosted banana named after Elvis. OMG . So good! And the gingerbread. Oh, the gingerbread!

          • manomanon :

            Im at my fake job at the moment and on my phone- check back late tonight or tomorrow for the reciepe

      • You live in a magical place where CBS is available in such quantities it can be used for cupcakes? I am very jealous.

    • Yummy! I love cupcake’s but my DAD has insisted that I stick to a new DIET that has NO refined sugar’s in it.

      I have to attend calendar call on MONDAY and I have 17 of the 19 cases in front of the JUDGE so I will be there all day (at least until after lunch). The manageing partner has even told me the RED outfit I should wear– this is a FIRST for him. He says that some of the motion’s are bordaline, so we need EVERY edge we can get. But I do NOT think my clotheing is goeing to make any diference.

      I saw Harold at the Dunking Donut’s this morning getting a creme donut. Yummy! But b/c of my DAD, I did NOT get any. He oferred to give me a byte, but I said NO, my dad is monitoring my meals and dailey intake. I must email him a list every day of what I eat so he can tell me how much excercize to do. I think he think’s I should still be a size 2, but I told him that is history! Anyway, Harold want’s me to take up roller bladeing, but I said I am not young enough for that. I did tell him I would watch him at Carl Schruz Park tomorow. The manageing partner will be very happy I am being freindly to Harold.

    • The ad that I have is “forbidden pleasure in the raw” choc cake. Yuk.

  2. karenpadi :

    Bay Area Meet-up tomorrow!

    Cafe Borrone in Menlo Park at 1 pm!

  3. Boston Visitor :

    Boston ladies! We will be visiting in a few weeks, and I can’t decide what to pack. We are planning to go to the symphony one night and dinner at Neptune Oyster and Island Creek Oyster Bar. During the day we will be doing lots of touristy stuff: Freedom trail, museums, duck tour, etc. What do I need to pack?? How dressy should I be for dinner?? Would appreciate any input or recommendations! Thanks!

    • It’s been getting colder already, so it’ll probably be a jeans / boots / jacket weekend when you’re here. I would bring a lot of layers, because if it warms up during the day you’ll just want a short sleeved shirt, but at night it can get cold so you’ll want a jacket for sure and maybe a scarf. Jeans and boots would be perfect for a day of touristing. It’s a walking city so you’ll be on your feet a lot.

      People dress pretty casually here, so I wouldn’t worry about wearing jeans to Neptune Oyster. You can dress up more if you feel like it though, like a dress or a skirt with tights. You will probably want to walk to Neptune Oyster, on brick sidewalks, so I’d stay away from heels unless you are very comfortable in them.

      People seem to wear everything and anything to the Symphony, so you’ll feel comfortable if you’re in a dress or if you’re wearing pants and a sweater.

      This is so stream of consciousness, sorry! I would pack: Jeans. Boots. Sweaters. T-shirts. Wool skirts that go with the sweaters and the boots. Tights. Scarf. Jacket. And running clothes to go for a run on the Charles in the morning.

      • Boston Blonde :

        I agree with the poster above, I think its a very casual city, even though I still like to dress up. Definitely comfortable shoes, and stacked heels and boots/wedges/flats work a lot better than heels. The cobblestones will literally eat your heels.

    • I have no advice for you, having spent a grand total of 2 weeks in that fair city, but I am jealous and wish you a wonderful trip!!

    • Anon Analyst :

      I did the freedom trail back when I visited in May. There is plenty of walking so bring really comfortable shoes. Also a large bag/tote to carry water, snacks, etc.

    • Boston Visitor :

      Thank you for your input! I will plan to pack only flats since we will be walking a lot and I hate scuffing my heels on cobblestone/bricks. Can’t wait!

    • I was in Boston earlier this month and ate at both of those places. First of all, YUM! Second of all, you do not need to get very dressed up for either restaurant. Have fun!

  4. Anyone treating themselves to a new fall bag? Would love links for what you’re peeking at! Also, has anyone tried the Benefit line of concealers/eye brighteners?
    Everyone have a great weekend!

    • (former) Clueless Summer :

      I got the Michael Kors Hamilton tote recently and I love it for work – big enough to fit papers/books, good pockets, can be carried over the shoulder and on the arm. Lots of amazing color combos too!

    • S in Chicago :

      Howdy neighbor! I recently got the Kate Spade Gold Coast Maryanne in cork. And a stunning violet one is on their website right now at super sale. (Keep repeating mantra: Bad S, you don’t need two.) Someone please enjoy this lovely bag for me.

      http://www.katespade.com/on/demandware.store/Sites-Kate-Site/default/Search-Show?q=maryann&cgid=kate-spade

      • Oh, S, I now have 3 Quinns, but I tell myself that they’re all really different (and they are). One is black flannel, one is purple leather with an ostrich pattern, and my new one is linen with black polka dots and black leather trim. See? Great price and it’s gorgeous.

        • Ah, too much enabling ;)

        • S in Chicago :

          I knew there was a reason I come here so much. Willpower gone. Is coming to me 5-7 business days. Have justified that pebbled leather is quite different and very pratical. Plus it’s a solid color and will work better with patterend outfits. Do not own another violet purse and is very on trend this year. Thank you, NOLA. Your good corpor*tte deed is done for the day.

          Now just stay away from fridge when I’m dieting. :)

        • Aaaaghhhh! I’m not even in the market for a new bag and now I want the Quinn in the black and white stripe. I mean, for $131 how can I go wrong?? Plus I’m pregnant right now so my clothes-shopping is uber-limited.

          NOLA — do they fit file folders? iPad? I need to be able to justify this as a work-related purchase before I pull the trigger.

          • I know – my polka dot Quinn was a whim buy because it was so inexpensive and I was tired of the purple, partly because it’s so distinctive.

            It is not big enough to fit a file folder. Not sure about an iPad. Tell me the measurements of your iPad and I’ll let you know. It’s not a big tote, but I love the layout. I can always find everything in my purse!

    • springtime :

      I use boing concealer. It stays put better than any others I have used, and doesn’t feel greasy.

    • lawsuited :

      I’ve tried the Boi-ing concealer and it gives great coverage that lasts all day – it’s more like a paste than a liquid but not cake-y. I’ve also tried the Ooh La Life eye brightener and it was nice, but didn’t make a huge difference and didn’t last all day so I wouldn’t highly recommend it.

    • I need one for a conference in a couple of weeks. This one is in my price range and I love everything about it–except the color. I need dark brown. Has anybody seen one like that?

    • Dessert Doctor :

      On a similar note, I am feeling pretty obsessed with the burgundy/oxblood color that is so in this fall. I really want to find a new wallet in that shade, but haven’t had any luck poking around online. Has anyone seen anything good?

    • I like Erase Paste. It’s thick and stays on nicely.
      Also, treated myself to two (!) fun bags from Kate Spade outlet. One resembles the goldcoast maryanne in black, the other is an awesome dark peakock blue

    • I bought the Vivan Dome Satchel from Brahmin: http://www.brahmin.com/vault2

      I can’t get a precise link, but that page should take you to the ‘vault’ where the purse I bought is. Shouldn’t have spent the money, but…there you have it. :)

    • @312 – I use Benefit’s Lemon-aid on my lids occasionally. I do find that it helps correct/balance tone and works well under powder/eye shadow.

    • MaggieLizer :

      I bought a Brahmin bag at the NAS and absolutely love it. It’s really quite stunning in person; the picture doesn’t do it justice: http://shop.nordstrom.com/s/brahmin-melbourne-medium-arno-croc-embossed-tote/3202748?origin=category&contextualcategoryid=0&fashionColor=Pecan&resultback=1360

    • I have the Tory Burch Robinson bag in red. A great durable bag for work and court. It has dividers and pockets and can hold files and keep everything in order. The leather is durable and doesn’t show scratches too much. There are little feet on the bottom. All in all I am pleased because I tend to destroy my work bags as I lug them all over. The only downside is that is it a bit heavy, even when empty because of the leather. And it keeps its shape! (which my old work bag did not do…the bottom had that fallen out loom after awhile)

  5. ChocCityB&R :

    In light of yesterday’s thread, does anyone have tailor recommendations in the Bay Area?

    Also, in an effort to start the weekend thread off nice, I want to say how much I appreciate all of the commenters and lurkers (no one ever thanks the lurkers). We are a diverse, smart, and giving group of ladies, and it gives me hope for future little choccities. If we are running the world (which natch- we are) they have a much better world to look forward to!

    • My tailor in Oakland has magical powers, and she is so cheap I actually feel guilty. Amanda at Piedmont Alterations (on Piedmont Ave). It’s just her in a tiny little storefront (i mean tiny!) and she doesn’t even have a website, just a phone number. But if Oakland is convenient for you, she is sooo worth it, her work is impeccable, and she is the sweetest woman in. the. entire. world.

      • I just moved to Oakland and I am so, so, so happy to read this recommendation!

        • glad to help and WELCOME to the Oaktown!! Let me know if you need any other recs, or anything, i’m here every day…… and the answer to your next question is: no, no i don’t have a life, why do you ask? ;o)

  6. Knit Knat :

    Any recommendations for tailors in NoVa?

    Along the same lines, I have trouble figuring out what needs tailoring and where it needs to be tailored. I can obviously tell when a skirt is too short and needs to be lenghtened, but aside from that I’m lost. I can tell some of my silk shirts look schlubby, but can’t tell what needs to be fixed– arms too loose? Arm holes too big? Waist too loose? — any guides or references you ladies can point me too?

    • Mr. Suh in Old Town Alexandria is fantastic.

    • Well, a *good* tailor will be able to talk you through these things, tell you what their options are and what it will accomplish, and help you decide what is worth the money. But also, a lot of people like the blog Alterations Needed, she is petite, so the specifics might not always apply to you, but she breaks down exactly how she has altered certain garments and shows before/after shots, so browsing through there might help you get some ideas.

  7. So I just found out that I have to make an emergency trip to DC next week to sit with a customer who is a Big Government Agency. My normal office is super casual (jeans and tshirts, I used to dress up but I eventually stopped bothering because truly no one cares) and I have nothing to wear, so I need to go shopping ASAP.

    However, I also have to work all weekend to deal with some emergency stuff and my shopping time is limited. Do you all have any tips on how to pick out a few outfits in only a couple hours? I live near a huge mall, so my choices are many. I’m tempted to just go to Banana Republic and buy their lookbook outfits, but I’d rather have something more original.

    • Stick to one color palatte. Do you need to get a suit? If so, I’d recommend going to Macy’s or another big department store where they sell suits as separates. You can then use different tops and necklaces to change the look.

    • What will your role be? That will really determine how you dress. And how long will be there (how many outfits)?

      Regardless: make sure you pick a base color/neutral (black, blue, gray, whatever looks good on you) for everything else to coordinate with in order to minimize what you need to purchase (and pack!).

      • In DC and in the fed government, I disagree that your role dictates dress. I think federal government clients will expect to see conservative suits, but maybe that’s just because I tend to deal with the more stuffy agencies (see post below re non-stuffy dress for my conference).

    • Can you buy a plain sheath dress in a neutral? If so, that plus a jacket (either matching from a suit set, or coordinating) will do it for you. Or, if their sizing works for you, go to J Crew and ask someone to put something together for you (all my suits are J Crew). If time is more important than money, they can rush ship to you any items they don’t have in store. I’ve never used a Nordstrom personal shopper, but this seems like it might be the perfect occasion for one.

      • Research, Not Law :

        This is the perfect occasion for a nordstroms personal shopper. I highly recommend.

        I also recommend one base color for the dominant separates (or suit). It will be less expensive shopping, but also easier packing.

      • Second the Nordstrom personal shopper. I did this for a new work wardrobe before starting at the firm, and it was AMAZING. It would have taken me an entire day to do what we did in a few hours.

    • Yep, and Macy’s has an option to pick up the item in-store, so you can pick out some items beforehand.
      Nordstrom and Talbots also allow you to find items in a particular location, though my own experience with Talbots inventory checking left me profoundly dissatisfied.

    • If you get to DC early enough you will definitely have plenty of options for shopping if you don’t find something this weekend. Also, what types of clothing are you most comfortable in? Do you prefer dresses/skirts/slacks? I’d get something basic that you can get more wear out of: skirt suit, sheath w/ blazer or nice cardigan, or pants suit. I think the weather is supposed to be decent here next week, too.

  8. Need some advice! I’m going to a conference in Las Vegas next month and need some help on what to wear. First, my fall clothes are pretty warm (tweeds) while my lighter weight clothes are very summery (think seersucker or other light cotton jackets), so not sure which to go with given how warm the weather will be. Second, I’m from a very conservative DC law background but this conference is in a more techy area. If this were an ABA event, I’d be rocking the charcoal suit and pearls. But I worry that I’ll look stuffy and outside the culture. On the other hand, we’re trying to establish ourselves as the knowledgeable, trustworthy, DC insiders in this industry. So if I’m slightly stuffier than your average conference-goer, that’s probably okay. I was thinking sheath dresses and jackets (but then the summer or the winter jackets?) plus bigger jewelry. Or is this too formal for the tech set? My male colleague is planning to wear jackets and open-collar shirts (although he’s still debating between dress pants and dark-wash jeans). If the dress and jacket look is too formal, what’s a better option? I’ll probably have jeans with me so I could do jeans and jackets, if that’s what people are wearing, but I’d like to have a dressier option on hand if jeans aren’t the thing. (Being a boring lawyer is way easier — take one part neutral skirt suit, add plain pearl or metal jewelry, silk top in slightly more fun color, and plain heels and voila! conference outfit.) Help!

    • I’ve been to a couple tech conferences in Vegas and people wear everything from shorts to suits, but most attendees are men who wear khakis or jeans and polo shirts or button-downs. Since these things can be like 90% men, there’s not really a standard “uniform” that women wear and your outfit will not be judged as much as your male coworker’s will be. Your dress sounds fine to me.

    • DC Association :

      First let me say…meeting rooms are FREEZING. So, if you get cold easily, there’s your decision-making factor as far as pants vs dresses…go with the pants. Doesn’t matter what the temperature outside is; inside the hotel or convention center will be 70*. Honestly, even if you don’t get cold easily, if you are sitting in sessions all day, go with pants for sure.

      So I would go with pant/jacket separates that are conservative but with funky jewelry to show your personality.

      • Refrigerated conference settings are the worst. Sure, with that many bodies in one place, it makes sense to cool things down a bit. But most places go overboard and are truly arctic. Combine that with the fact you’re sitting for long periods of time and you start contemplating bringing mittens and a hat…

      • I don’t really own pants, but sounds like I should go with the warmer jackets!

      • +1. That is the only thing I remember from a conference I went to in Vegas. I was so cold I drank hot tea to warm my hands up so I could take notes.

    • I usually do Vegas conferences in the spring, so it’s a bit cooler then. October is still in mid-80s. I definitely recommend dressing in layers there, because I find that the conferences are always freezing, but then you step outside and it’s actually really warm. I also suggest lighter colors/materials wardrobe – it just feels right. You could also get away with brighter colors and bigger jewelry there. I really like your idea of sheath dress and a jacket. I think it would be a tad less formal than a full suit, but it will still look put together. If you’re presenting or expect a lot of networking, I would avoid jeans. I always see people in jeans, but almost never presenters/exhibitors, but it probably depends on the conference (I go to the high-tech ones). For the night, jeans are OK if you go somewhere real casual or just walking the strip, but otherwise, I would avoid them as well. People tend to be dressier there at night. Again, depends what your plans are.

      One other suggestion – bring a pair of flats with you that can fit in your purse (I always have a foldable pair with me). That way if you walk between hotels/casinos, you can just put them on and then change into your regular shoes there.

      If you get a chance, check out the Foundation Room in Mandalay Bay (awesome view of the strip – you can sit outside on the balcony with little fire pits around you). It’s normally members-only, but they have a couple of days a week when they let anyone in. Also Cosmopolitan is fun. People watching, of course, is awesome everywhere there!

    • LadyEnginerd :

      Sequins. Because it’s Vegas (and because I watched Project Runway last night)

      In all seriousness, you’ll stand out (in a good way) if you wear bright colors at a tech conference. People will notice you and want to talk with you. I bust out my purple blazer at scientific conferences (with neutral three-season wool pants on the bottom) and it helps me stand out from the sea of navy blue blazers.

      • That’s a great tip and one I wouldn’t have thought of. I was planning to bring a bright-ish blue dress anyway, so that sounds like it will be a good choice. Now to pick a brighter jacket to go with the black dress.

  9. My boss just took me out to lunch to tell me that I’m doing a great job. What an awesome surprise on a dreary Friday!

    Partners & managers & bosses out there— do this for your reports!

  10. That sinking feeling when you realize you left a banana in your computer bag…. 3 months ago.

    • Turtle Wexler :

      Ooohh, yuck. I don’t think I’ve done this with fruit, though I definitely have with breakfast pastries. But finding a rock-hard lump that used to be a scone is far different than what I imagine you found…

      • Oh, we were to the point of petrification. At first I thought I’d spilled a bottle of shampoo that was leaking out of the corner of the bag… But yeah, it was pretty funny.

    • lawsuited :

      Bahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

      Sorry, not the most sensitive response, but I am laughing with love and deep sympathy.

    • Blonde Lawyer :

      Back in my high school days I was a waitress at an ice cream shop. I took a to-go cup of milk and a cookie for my ride home. I basically just dipped the cookie in the milk and didn’t drink it. I forgot it in my car and went on vacation with my parents for a week. The milk sat in my car in the summer heat that whole time. When I returned, it had disintegrated the cup, molded into the cup holder and made a solid hard coaster. The smell, however, was a different story. Total science experiment.

      • Merabella :

        I had milk spill onto the carpets of my car in college. I’m totally sympathetic. Nothing gets that sh!t out.

      • I recently left a carton of milk (which somehow spilled?!) in a reusable grocery bag, which I put away in our den. We couldn’t figure out why our apartment gradually smelled worse and worse– we never go in the den; it’s just storage. When I finally figured it out about two weeks later I almost threw up. Yuckkkk.

      • Yup. I was the social VP of an organization in college, and for one event had to pick up our catered Indian dinner. While I was driving to the event, the chicken tikka and the saag paneer somehow got spilled under the backseat. I cannot even describe the smell that ensued.

    • Frou Frou :

      I’ve totally done this. Except in my case, it was my DH’s briefcase, but I’m the one that left behind the banana and he had no idea it was there until he discovered it a few months later. He was not amused (but I was).

    • Been there. Even worse: left an orange in my car trunk for four months. During summer. In Texas. Parked outside. Liquification is a general term for what I found…

    • As a kid, one of my cousins gave me her old winter coat as a hand-me down. There was some sort of fruit (an orange?) and a string cheese stick in the pockets from the previous winter. Fortunately the washer took care of most of the mess, but it was a pretty horrifying discovery.

    • It sounds like we’ve all been there at some point! Someone once must have dropped a piece of fruit under the backseat of my car because one day I found a furry lump attached to the carpet. I don’t know how long it was there, but I could only identify it by the produce sticker (I think it was a plum or some other fruit that I never buy).

    • My son’s school backpack didn’t get used all summer. Turns out he left his lunchbox in it. And didn’t get around to eating his lunch on the last day of school.

      As god is my witness, I will never eat a turkey sandwich again.

    • I put a pear into the pocket of my winter jacket once and forgot about it until I shoved my hand into the rotten remains.

    • We have limited counter space at our cabin. Stuck bananas in microwave to get them off of the counter and forgot them. For a month. I now have a new microwave at my cabin.

      • Once there was a horrible smell in my kitchen. HORRIBLE. I looked everywhere. I couldn’t find ANYTHING. just opened windows and used lots of air freshener. Could not figure it out.
        Went to get large platter off top of fridge in, oh, October? Large, large amount of rotted liquid in platter. Source of smell.

        Remembered putting watermelon up there in, oh, July?

        Couldn’t find it when smell came, because it had already rotted and collapsed, couldn’t see it on top of fridge.

        Lesson learned: short people should never put perishables on fridge.

  11. NYC Lurker :

    Long time lurker popping in with a question (I tried using the search function, but it wasn’t working for me).

    I graduated college in May 2011 and have been working since, but I now find myself in need of some academic reference letters. I have some senior year professors in mind I could contact, but I did not keep in touch after I graduated. It feels so weird just popping up out of nowhere and asking them to write a recommendation! Do you ladies have any tips for how to approach them?

    • LadyEnginerd :

      Don’t just ask for letters – in your email, ask for the letter and explain what it’s for and why you want to do that (like, after years in X field I want to go to grad school in Y because of Z), tell them why they’d make a good reference (I learned A, B, and C from you, which will enhance my skills in Y), attach your current resume so they can see what you’ve been up to, and offer to sit down and meet with them to update them about what you’ve been up to since they last knew you well.

    • Just email and ask nicely. You should remind them what year you graduated, and what classes you had with them.

      If you didn’t know them well (or think they’ll need some help), once they agree (they will), send your resume as well as some bullet points you’d liek them to cover.

      It’s awkward, but professors are ALWAYS asked. It is their job.

      • ETA: I assumed you needed them for grad school. Most grad schools have forms, etc. for ugrad professors to fill out.

        If you need them for some other purpose, definitely let them know and provider more color, as suggested above.

      • I work at a college – and our grad school sends out thank you letters to the referring professors as a way to make a professional connection (and to acknowledge/encourage the continued practice of writing those letters) at least when we accept a candidate.

    • Don’t feel odd, and don’t feel like you have to make a lot of small talk and bury your request in the middle of it (A little update and some pleasantries are nice, but sometimes I get the impression that students feel like they have to “chat” for an appropriate amount of time before they ask for the letter. You don’t, it’s part of our job). If it’s been a while, I usually request that the student send me one of the papers that they wrote for my course to help jog my memory, so you could send a paper that you wrote (or your final grade in the course) in addition to your CV. And as others above have mentioned, if it’s for a non-academic job, be more specific in what you need, otherwise your professors will probably just default to the usual format for an academic reference letter, which may not be what you need.

      • LadyEnginerd :

        Yeah, don’t dance around the subject – it’s totally expected – but do give them enough information so that they can write a good letter. Most of the time they don’t take me up on the offer to chat if I’ve written a good enough email with the relevant background information on me and what I’m applying for.

        • NYC Lurker :

          Thank you all for your help! I was really hoping I could just have my bosses write the recommendations, but everything I have read says that academic references are strongly preferred. Oh well. But all of your suggestions are great, and I am relieved to learn that this is pretty common.

    • No Problem :

      Just ask in an email, and attach your resume. If you’re calling, just make sure to get to the point pretty quickly. I had to ask for an academic reference letter when I was applying to grad school a full 3 years after I graduated! Thankfully, I had worked in the prof’s lab for a semester and taken a class with him, and the work I did was useful for his future publications, so he probably didn’t have to think too hard about who I was. He told me when I emailed him that my name had just come up because he was putting me in the acknowledgements for one of his papers. So professors definitely remember students and are not weirded out when asked for recommendations. Besides, it’s only been a year.

      • No Problem :

        Oh, I forgot to mention that you should give whoever you’re asking plenty of time to write the recommendation. Like, at least 2-3 weeks.

    • Yes, very common. Last week I wrote one for a student that I had in 2008. I still had the grades from the class and the research paper that he wrote. I agree that jogging the professor’s memory would be good and a resume would add context along with the name/type of program for which you need the letter.

  12. So I just moved to Spain to teach English, right? I promised my friends and family I’d keep a blog while I’m on this side of the pond, and I thought I’d share it here as well. You can find it at girlgwengalicia dot blogspot dot com, or linked from my name.

    Eventual highlights include me doing arts and crafts with 30 elementary-school students, and getting my overly-affectionate Siberian husky cleared through customs.

    I will also probably talk about shoes a lot, because I like, have a problem, and there is a shoe store every other storefront.

    • Blonde Lawyer :

      Have fun! I did a study abroad program in Granada in college and LOVED it. I hope your doggy gets cleared quickly and has nice accommodations in the meantime.

      • Oh, she’s loving life in the meantime, since she’s chilling on her grandaddy’s farm and getting to play with his three dogs and sniff the horses. Life in Spain will probably pale in comparison for her.

    • Yay, I love this!! Thanks for letting us know, I’m so excited to hear about your adventures while stuck at my dreary, boring desk. ;o)

    • Awesome! And oh, please post lots of pictures of your husky! I’m a sucker for happy, affectionate dogs. :-)

    • How cool! My sister & bil returned just a few months ago from a stint in Spain. Bil had a job teaching conversational English in a school, which was awesome for him because he’s great with kids and speaks Spanish himself. They were in the same area as you but right on the coast. I don’t remember the name of the city they were in, but it was a resort town and I’m sure it had at least one ‘X’ in it. Sis said the weather was awesome (we’re from Canada, so even a rainy winter with mild temps was better than bitter cold & snow) and they ate a ton of fish (which I think she learned to like). They loved the area, though, and did a little bit of touring in the area with friends they met. They definitely said the people were very kind and polite.

      Hope you have a great time in Spain! What an awesome adventure!

      • Oh my gosh, everyone has been so kind so far! After we got into Madrid, the mom and I had spent an hour lost on various highways trying to get to our hotel. We pulled into an auto shop to ask for directions. One of the customers heard me struggling to understand the directions, came over, offered to translate, then looked at where we were trying to go, and said since she and her husband lived near there, we could follow them in their car to the hotel. I think that was one of the kindest things a stranger has ever offered to do for me.

        I still haven’t had any seafood, but it’s coming. Mm. I looooove octopus.

    • oh dear, we all knew I was a bit slow…..I posted above but your blog is so cute. Glad you are settling in!

    • a. , I just checked out your blog. Thanks for linking to it. I look forward to reading about your adventures and I hope your pup gets to you soon!

    • a., just want to say I loooooooooove your blue skinnies. Bookmarked the blog!

      • thanks! I love ‘em too. They’re these guys from Anthro (I also own them in orange, don’t hate): http://us.anthropologie.com/anthro/product/24351306.jsp?color=040

        And I have to say, during the three weeks I worked there, that particular cut of jeans flattered EVERYONE who tried them on. Not a lie, not an exaggeration. Tall ladies, short ladies, petite ladies, fuller-figured ladies. They were like the magic pants. The fabric is also super-soft and comfortable.

    • ChinaRette :

      Good luck! I spent time working abroad (hence my username) and LOVED it. Such a great experience. Good luck getting started!

  13. Winter shoes? :

    Hi ladies! what do you all do to keep your feet/legs warm
    during the winter? I’m a big fan of pencil skirts, but find myself reaching for pants in the winter because the thought of simply walking to my car in only tights and pumps is unthinkable in the morning. I live in DC and drive to work and park in a garage, still My legs get very cold. Do you all wear riding boots out of the door and then change? Any solutions?

    • lawsuited :

      I am embarrassed to admit this, but I wear tall Ugg boots to walk from the parking garage. They’re grey soooo….that’s business appropriate, right?

    • Yes. Boots!

    • I live in DC, and I drive to work, park in a garage. I wear tights. While in my car, I have a blanket (my grandmother knitted for me) that I drape over my lap and tuck under my bottom that keeps my legs warm while the heater works its magic. I usually just keep the blanket in the car – although you could take it to/from the house every morning/evening.

    • I just wear dressy knee high boots and keep them on all day.

    • La Canadienne boot – warm and profesh

    • Knee-length down coat and boots. When I’m really cold, I’ll wear my snowboots (Merrells) with my tights and skirt and then change in the office.

    • Fleece-lined tights

    • applesandcheddar :

      I live in DC too and wear skirts all winter long. I wear tights and flat knee high boots with them all winter long. If it’s especially cold, I will sometimes swap the tights for leggings or sweater tights. Luckily I don’t find the winters here to be too cold, so this usually does the trick.

    • fleece lined tights!

    • Fleece-lined tights. I started wearing boots for the commute and bringing my normal work shoes to change into, but really it’s easier and warmer just to leave the boots on all day, if you can do that in your office.

      • Yes! Fleece lined tights with boots is so comfortable. I never want to put on any other shoes in the winter.

        • Thanks all!! What brand of fleece-lined tights do you like? I’m a big fan of DKNY for normal tights, but dont own any that are fleece lined. Thanks everyone for responding! Boots and tights it is!

    • Diana Barry :

      Boots!

    • I have a longer coat. So with tights and sometimes, when it’s super cold, boots I usually stay warm enough.

  14. lucy stone :

    I’m moving into a much bigger office next week and am trying to figure out a) how to arrange my furniture and b) what to decorate my office with now that I have floor-to-ceiling bookshelves and twice the wallspace! What do you have in your office that you love? Tips on arranging furniture?

    • Subscribing to this thread!

    • Not much advise on who to arrange furniture (without knowing the layout of your office and what furniture you have), but the one thing I prefer, and see in most of my colleagues’ offices, is to have your desk situated so that when you’re sitting it at your body is facing the door.
      As far as decor, whatever you want (within reason)! Personally, I love seeing pictures of my co-workers’ friends and family – reminds me that they’re normal people with lives outside the office. Just keep the pictures tasteful (no spring break pics) and not overly sappy. I have a few pics of me and my parents (a personal favorite is a pic of my mom in her graduation gown holding a one-year-old me), a few pics of friends, one pic from my swearing in, and a pic of my cat. Other than that, I’d suggest picking out one or two larger art pieces/prints that you like and hang those.

    • I arrange my furniture so that I am facing the door while on my computer, because I hate to have my back to the door. I then put my other desk in an L shape with chairs in front so people can visit me.

      I have a print of one of my favorite paintings and my degrees nicely framed. I also have a framed painting done by each of my kids, framed individual pictures of each kid and a couple of them together, and a cork board with papers I reference often, postcards and pictures. I have a lady of justice statue and a couple of plants. I also have the first thank you card I ever received from a client. Oh and a pretty Tiffany style lamp.

      I don’t see clients in my office or I would probably not have so many kid related things.

    • lucy stone :

      To follow up, I work for the government and the most regular visitors to my office are opposing counsel and police officers. The new office has the door in the corner, a wall of half-windows across from the door, and is probably 12×20. I am currently working in a former secretary’s office and am SO EXCITED to have more room.

  15. Anyone else just see the shuttle fly by? Very cool.

  16. @ emcsquared:

    I didn’t get a chance to response last night, but you were looking for a fun pen holder.
    Wanted to share mine. It’s a freaking dragon! Definitely not corporate, but looks totally appropriate in my somewhat formal office.
    If you’re in NYC, there’s a store on Broadway in Soho that sells these. They’re also available online from the store’s website. Looks much better in person (not crappy cheap plastick-y), I’ve even given them as gifts before. It sounds like it would go with your color scheme, too.

    http://pearlriver.com/v2/FramesSearch.asp?search=pen+holder

    • emcsquared :

      Thank you! Love that idea. I’m leaning toward a large, shallow bowl or tray that I can fill with pens, and a cup for scissors/ruler/letter opener…so maybe I’ll search out a dragon themed tray too. Hmmm….

      • I just got an email from fab.com and their featured sale is focused in office today. They have some fun stuff mostly modern looking. You should check it out.

  17. Business Cashwell :

    I’m trying to add more jackets/blazers to my current work wardrobe. I will be working at a biglaw firm with a business casual dress code with jeans on Fridays. I really like the max & mia boucle jacket in black/white at Nordstroms and the equestrian style jackets at BR and the Limited (elbow patches and all). I’m thinking these are too casual for my future office- the boucle jacket has very frayed edges and the equestrian jackets have contrasting elbow patches- but I am looking for the Hive’s thoughts? Yay or nay?

    • What city are you in?

      • Business Cashwell :

        DC

        • It might entirely depend on the unique culture of your firm, but these look fine to me. I might actually suggest you first start work and see if jackets are even a thing. When I was in BigLaw (in DC) I actually never wore jackets unless I was wearing a suit (for meetings with people outside the firm — clients, opposing counsel, co-counsel, government regulators). My uniform was a pencil skirt, cardigan, and shirt or camisole. Some associates wore pants suits with more casual tops, but overall jackets weren’t very popular. I do think that if you’re mid-level or above (if I’m doing my math right, then a 2008 or earlier law grad) adding a few jackets isn’t a terrible idea, just to give yourself a little more authority. I also found that in several of my meetings (especially with co-counsel) separates would have been a good option. (Btw, the one BigLaw firm I know has jeans Fridays is A&P. My friend worked there and he never wore a tie — just dress pants and a dress shirt Mon – Tues. If that’s your firm, I wouldn’t worry too much.)

  18. Ladies, cut/paste chat between a coworker and the admin.

    A—-/Company Redacted(9:02 AM) B…do you drive a grey SUV?
    B—-/Company Redacted(9:02 AM) why?
    A—-/Company Redacted(9:03 AM) I don’t know…someone driving one this morning tried to kill my ass twice on the road this morning…but that couldn’t have been you…cause you would never do that…right?
    B—-/Company Redacted(9:03 AM) hmmmmmmmmm
    B—-/Company Redacted(9:03 AM) that sounds FAMILIAR
    B—-/Company Redacted(9:03 AM) but don’t know what you are talking about
    B—-/Company Redacted(9:03 AM) I speed that I know
    B—-/Company Redacted(9:04 AM) what do you drive?
    A—-/Company Redacted(9:04 AM) a black ——
    B—-/Company Redacted(9:04 AM) you were cutting me out
    B—-/Company Redacted(9:05 AM) didn’t want me to take the ramp from the beginning
    B—-/Company Redacted(9:05 AM) so yes that was me
    B—-/Company Redacted(9:05 AM) and I didn’t know it was you in the care
    B—-/Company Redacted(9:05 AM) car
    B—-/Company Redacted(9:05 AM) and didn’t think that this person might be working for (Company redacted)
    B—-/Company Redacted(9:06 AM) we need to talk than!!!!!!!!!
    A—-/Company Redacted(9:07 AM) hahahaha…lane changes in an intersection is not legal…crossing solid white lines is also illegal. You had already passed the point of going on the highway but I guess shoving my car over made room for you. Believe me, I’m in a rush in the morning too, but I don’t try to kill people on the road. Not cool. I knew it was you, that’s the only reason I didn’t get out of my car. I will consider this the last time we have to discuss a situation like this.
    B—-/Company Redacted(9:08 AM) are you a cop?
    A—-/Company Redacted(9:09 AM) No…but i know plently. let’s not get to that point. I just to see everyone arrive alive…even if it’s 5 minutes late.
    B—-/Company Redacted(9:10 AM) me too so we are on the same page and it;s not cool of accusing me by saying not cool to try killing people
    B—-/Company Redacted(9:10 AM) have a nice day
    B—-/Company Redacted(9:10 AM) wasn;t a nice comment
    B—-/Company Redacted(9:10 AM) I have a son and I know
    A—-/Company Redacted(9:19 AM) Clearly you have missed the point. I have 3 kids by the way…so I guess I win. And it wasn’t cool. Speeding I have no problem with, but what you did is dangerous…but if you can’t see that…I’m not sure how to show you. One day you will do that to the wrong person, and I fear that the outcome will not be good for you. I wish you luck and hope that you don’t have to understand what I said the hard way.
    B—-/Company Redacted(9:20 AM) oh and by the way I take that as a threat by you saying that you know plenty and let’s not get to that point so you are threatening me
    A—-/Company Redacted(9:25 AM) LOL…you can take that however you want. These are just people I know…I can’t help that…and no reflection of any legal action. Honestly…good luck…you obviously need it.

    • lawsuited :

      What IS this?

    • what is the point of posting this? are you just posting email chats between your coworkers?

    • Oh. Dear.

    • I’m not sure what that is, but both were/are behaving like children on the road and off the road. Not to sound paranoid or hyper-sensitive, but one ought to refrain from using words like “kill” “accuse” “threatening” and “cop” at work (unless you are an actor on Law & Order SVU).

      In sum- don’t act stupid and don’t record your stupid behavior at work.

      • Hee hee hee. This x1000, especially regarding the language only being appropriate for Law and Order SVU!

      • Sydney Bristow :

        At my old job, we didn’t realize how much we were monitored until two of my coworkers were instant messaging and one of them said “you’re da bomb” and company headquarters almost immediately cut into the conversation.

    • Honey Pillows :

      …….?

    • This was not an impulsive action, because you took the time to redact the names and the company name.
      I don’t get.

      • yeah I feel like posting this is way weirder than whatever the point anon was trying to make was. Like two coworkers argued? alright.. but your the weirdo that went and redacted all the names and posted it on a website?

    • If OP is neither of the people, why does OP have access? And if OP is in IT (and hence have access), isn’t sharing it a bit unethical, regardless of the redacting? Or at least…tacky?

    • The point is, if we could just address road rage directly to the person it will all work out. Wait…

    • I thought this was going to be some sort of inappropriate admin story, but nope. I can’t even tell if the admin is A or B.

    • Oh, c’mon people.

      I suppose the lesson is, next time you’re being an a-hole in traffic, remember that the person you’re cutting off might be someone you know/work with/your boss.

      (PS I am not the OP.)

    • I’ll also take a moment to remind everyone: when you put stuff like this in writing, there is the chance that your company’s lawyers will someday end up reading them while doing doc review. And it will make their day.

  19. boston gardener :

    Boston: any recommendations for a firm/lawyer for a thirtysomething wanting to write a will? What should the expected cost range be?

  20. Interesting article in the News Roundup about hedge fund dresscodes. Most of the comments were not worth reading but I wonder what the hive thinks of this one (from a man):
    “Honestly getting dressed just does not seem that complicated. For example on this whole stockings thing – just wear them. You don’t want me running around not wearing socks, do you?”

    I know it’s often more nuanced than that, and depends on your workplace, yadda yadda, but I kind of see his point. Moreover, I can see how if you work in an environment where it’s mostly older men who may think this way, it would certainly be in your best interest to incorporate this logic into your sartorial choices.

    PS: As for the woman who wore boots with her Brioni suits on her interviews – when I was a 1L, I did the same and, unsurprisingly, I didn’t get a callback either.

    • lawsuited :

      I’d much rather wear socks than pantihose. Pantihose are much more uncomfortable and expensive for those of us (me) who can’t go a day without laddering them. I still wear pantihose for interviews, court, etc., BUT I think that if men were expected to wear pantihose as opposed to socks then pantihose would fall out of favour in a lot of dress codes.

    • AnonInfinity :

      I agree with the overall point that getting dressed shouldn’t be so complicated. And that it’s in one’s best interest career-wise to dress how your superiors expect you to dress.

      However, sometimes it seems like those superiors (maybe? maybe it’s society at large?) make it more complicated for women to get dressed. Boxier button-front shirt with a suit and hose? Frumpy, matronly, shrew. More fitted clothing? Too hot to be taken seriously. It can just be a delicate balancing act sometimes, IMO.

      So, clothing shouldn’t be so complicated, but sometimes it just is.

    • I hate pantyhose with passion and if a man told me to wear them, I would ask him if he thought it’s appropriate for me to comment on the type of underwear he should wear to work.

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