Suit of the Week: Banana Republic Factory

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1. Advice. I have been nominated for our firm’s managing partner committee. Everyone else who has served has lost money during those years- it is a huge time commitment, we are expected to continue practicing law full time so receive a fixed fee payment for “service.” Some managing partners spend more time, others less. I would not be the Chair. Is there any shot at all, of me sticking to a very strict calendar? Saying “here’s my office hours, if it’s anything urgent call the Chair of the managing partners?” I know this is a know your office thing. Curious if anyone has tried in a similar role or has any suggestions.

   1. It’s not completely the same, but someone on my team was asked to join an ERG committee, and I flat-out said that it was going to be a time suck.

      If they want to do it because they’re passionate about it, great, carry on. But they’re doing it because they think it’s a path into leadership, will help them grow management skills, etc.? NOPE.

      I don’t know what’s involved in this at a law firm, but it does not surprise me at all that people who have done this have lost money.

   2. In terms of investment in your own career, I assume you’re already a full partner so this wouldn’t help you move forward, would it? What is your motivation for serving? Are there things about the firm you’d like to have a hand in changing?

2. maybe a fun question for today: If you were invited as a guest on a podcast—unrelated to your profession—what would it be? i’ll answer in the comments…

   1. autism mom stuff – my kiddo isn’t high functioning or profoundly autistic so there’s a middle level

      1. Tell me more! My kid can be high-functioning and less-high-functioning, depending on the day and what is going on. But not so autistic that we didn’t know until pretty far into elementary school, despite doing the screening and asking our pediatrician repeatedly about my child’s toe-walking (that should have been a red flag). We have a new pediatrician now, but one who up-front admits to only knowing the med-school taught minimum here.

         1. have you gotten a good OT yet? that can be the answer to a lot of things — better understanding your child’s sensitivities, the way they react to those sensitivities, and what words/accommodations they can use to better advocate for themselves

      2. +1 but for AuDHD parenting. We got the ADHD diagnosis and it both mitigates/exacerbates the ASD to a degree that was/is hard to untangle.

      3. Me too and now that kiddo is in his mid-20s so new challenges!

   2. I would talk about how to prioritize fun/play as an adult woman (and mom, when applicable) and the benefits it brings.

      1. I want to hear your thoughts, if you’re up for writing them out!

         1. Same! Please share!

         2. Super busy workday today but one of the top (and simplest) things is to plan fun in advance and get it on the calendar. So many of us default to “let’s see what we feel like this weekend” or “let’s just be spontaneous,” but I find that that hinders fun because you’ll give in to couch inertia and/or lose out on opportunities requiring some advance notice (like tickets for a popular event). In addition, having plans on your calendar for the weekend forces you to be more productive at work and better protects your free time as valuable/sacred. If you’re looking forward to skiing in Tahoe on Saturday and Sunday, you better believe your work is going to be done by mid-day Friday.

            Having fun as a mom is a whole ‘nother topic for another day, but I think it’s so, so important and that most women I know (including me!) would like to have more fun than they’re having. We’re all under pressure with childcare, work, often eldercare, etc., but the fun is what keeps that spark going so you feel like “you” and it also helps you have more energy to tackle the hard stuff.

            1. Ugh, I hate that your first paragraph is so true, LOL!

   3. Oddities of United States state and federal laws. How many ways we define “keyboard,” what counts as real estate, etc.

   4. True tales from old houses. I’m am old house nerd (it’s my special interest, yayyyy autism). I just absorb old house and antique furniture stuff by osmosis and I have a wild ability to date things within 5 years.

   5. The book of Ecclesiastes. I put in an excessive amount of prep when I taught it to my working moms’ group and know way too much about it.

      1. like the book in the bible? guessing you’re not talking about who wrote it or elaine pagels type stuff just because i can’t imagine a working moms group caring about that. what are the key takeaways?

         1. It’s hard to summarize in a comment, but we traced different themes, some of them contrasting, through the text. I started off with a whole lecture on the historical and literary context too. It was very academic and the moms loved it. All but one of our group members had a graduate degree and we were all starved for intellectual stimulation.

            1. This sounds so cool! I would love this.

   6. Fiber arts of some sort, probably about doing proper gauge swatches in knitting or crocheting and then what math to do so your finished object ends up the size you want it to be.

      1. no no no every project is an adventure
         I am a very mathy person but not when I craft

      2. I’m on 4:02’s team. I’m am actuary (very mathy) and a prodigious knitter.

   7. Event planning. It’s a smaller part of my job now but ‘m very detail oriented and I live for high intensity/things can change on a dime scenarios.

      1. I have a friend who used to do event planning before she moved into her current field. She used to plan things like Superbowl parties for the team/SOs/management. Not just the superbowl but similar events for other sports as well. The stories she has would be an excellent podcast, but she probably can’t talk about them publicly!

   8. How to live your best life in retirement. Or eldercare tips, tricks, and pitfalls to avoid.

      1. Would love to hear this! Please go on a podcast, SA!

      2. Oooh, I’d listen to this.

   9. either meal planning, or details that don’t make sense in the Harry Potter universe.

   10. flowers! winter sowing too maybe.

   11. Random celebrity relationships, especially film directors, character actors, and 90s alternative musicians. Also possibly awards show fashion?

   12. Growing flowers
       Parenting a 2e kid

   13. Food and drinks as a sensory experience. Eating and drinking are 5-sense experiences for me, and I have fun teaching others how to slow down and enjoy what they consume.

       1. I am very, very jealous of people who truly enjoy eating and drinking like this. I have an ongoing eating disorder and my main feelings around food are forcing myself to eat because food=fuel, or tension/dread around meals when I’m not in control of the menu.

       2. I recently watched a few Japanese dramas with food themes and loved how they filmed this. (I especially enjoyed Bokura no Shokutaku because the foods were such ordinary foods.)

   14. I’d talk about getting older and investing more time in learning skills you always wanted to have, as more of an investment in yourself & for your future retired self, vs developing more skills for your career.

       1. This is a great idea!

   15. How to make adult friendships, build friend groups, maintain female friendships in seasons of life that can diminish them (dating, engagement, marriage), and host guests/throw parties!

3. Re curtains, do we only do them basically from near the ceiling to the floor (regardless of window size) now? And with no horizontal pieces like valences or swags or tie-backs? And with no sheers as an underlayer going across the window with the heavy fabric curtains really just at the sides (like at a hotel, where I like to close off things so people in the next building can’t see in)?
   I.e., in 2026, at home, you just have long curtains on either side of a window (but don’t actually close them, but they should be closeable).

   1. https://stylebyemilyhenderson.com/hanging-curtains-all-wrong

      1. Mine are like the one labeled “The Kiss” and I have a super thick layer of sheers behind them for letting in light while keeping privacy.

         When open, the curtain fabric hangs almost entirely next to the window, with just the inner edge covering the edge of the window. It makes the windows look much larger and more grand than they really are. They skim the carpet on the floor, and are a few inches from the ceiling (my windows are high, so the rod is about halfway between the top of the window trim and the ceiling). I have enough panels that they are about 3 times as wide as the window they are covering, which means they still have drapey folds when closed and don’t look stretched out. Our windows are old and kind of drafty, so they do get closed a lot, especially in the winter, and when the summer sun is glaring in.

   2. For 2026, it depends on the space. IMHO, the trend really is towards interesting textures or depth in the fabric than exactly how it’s mounted. More often the second layer is either a roller blind or roman blind, which replaces the purposes both the sheers and valance served. Trend is very much that curtains are mounted on the outside of the window and typically go to the floor. Mounting them at the ceiling seems to be dissipating when it results in more than 8 inches of exposed wall between the top of the window or blind and the curtain rod.

4. I’ve been waiting on my husband to make it in a passion job for the past couple years and I’m starting to be Over It. At first i thought itwas great that he had a career path that he loved, even if it might betough to get into. But 5 years in, I’m a little more clear eyed. Our son is turning 3 and when I asked if we should sign up for a preschool or stick with just the babysitter, he said we ought to wait until we know if he’ll get hired at X and want to move. Replace our 6+ year old mates we got as broke newlyweds? Wait until we move for his job. I want to switch jobs? Only if it doesn’t require changes to his work schedule or where we live. Ugh.

   1. Sign up for preschool. You can always drop out if you move.

      1. where i live you’d forfeit a hefty deposit, but it sounds like OP and her husband need to have some conversations about what is/isn’t working for their family that are bigger than just preschool

   2. You say you “asked if we should sign up for a preschool.” Every issue here you phrase as a question to him. I think it’s sometimes a mistake to ask a question when you really want to express an opinion to your spouse. I do this with my husband sometimes. But he doesn’t always read between the lines and understand I want a certain thing. He’s more than happy to share his perspective and let that be the last word. Start differently. I would try to have the conversation again but express what you really desire. Do you want the ability to change jobs yourself? A higher household income? What is the root problem?

      1. This is an insightful comment. I think the biggest complaint is that my husband doesn’t compartmentalize well and when he feels stuck with his career, he is less likely to show initiative to make changes in any other area of our lives. I’d probably be much less annoyed about waiting on his career if it didn’t feel like everything else about our life also had to be on hold unless I’m the driving force for change.

         1. Don’t let this dynamic persist. My husband suddenly became averse to change, including career change, after we’d been married for several years. There is always a reason for us not to move ahead, for him not to look for a better job, for me to stay in a terrible job. He is always waiting for some financial or logistical milestone, and then when that arrives he picks another one farther down the road. The longer you allow this pattern to go on, the harder it becomes to break out of.

         2. that can get to be so tiring — i’m sorry, OP. i think a lot of wives feel like they’re the ones driving the bus with everything else in marriage and it sucks.

            Sometimes you can take that indecision and paralysis and just push through changes and design the life you want. But I think you need to be clear on what the life you want looks like.

   3. I would not be ok with this. I was laid off last fall and decided to try to launch my own business rather than returning to a traditional office job. But I’ve given myself 1 year, not 5 (!!) to show I can make a career of this, and my husband was fully involved in planning that timeline and I’ve taken on more of the home responsibilities because I’m not working full time right now.

   4. We have several friends that are like this. Ultimately, life is happening while you are waiting for your husband to make it, and you need to make decisions based on your life now.

      Sign up for preschool. If you end up moving, you will just withdraw from preschool.
      Replace things in your house that are broken or gross. You will have to fix the things if you end up selling your house, and you need the new thing regardless.

      Other things, it may actually make sense to wait. For example, we have had friends who have actively not taken the middle school into account when they’ve moved for an elementary school based on the assumption that the husband will have “made it” by then, and they can buy a dream home at that point.

   5. Real talk: a passion job is fine, *provided that* it is subordinate to the job that keeps the lights on and the mortgage paid.

      In many ways, passion jobs are hobbies that happen to pay you some token amount of money. That’s great, but that also means that they should be treated like that in the family decision making.

      Think of the quintessential small town shop owned by the wife of a corporate executive. She can have a fun job; she’s told to just not lose too much money. If she happens to make some money at her bookstore/coffeeshop, great. But you wouldn’t expect her husband to have his career hinge on what is basically her hobby.

      Likewise, here. He’s been trying for five years? Hobby. Your job is your job.

      It actually doesn’t matter how hard it is to “break in” or how much he loves it. It is a hobby that happens to pay some money on the side.

      1. Right. Moving so he can pursue what is essentially a hobby is bananas.

      2. I’m trying to have some veneer of anonymity here so I’m not going to specify exactly what it is, but note that this is a well paid career once you get into it, just that it’s quite competitive to get in. So if he does make it we easily double our income immediately and have a high ceiling thereafter.

         1. I’m imaginging something in the arts like acting? Sorry but if he hasn’t “made it” yet it’s still just a hobby. There’s a reason struggling actors work day jobs.

            1. I was imagining something super hands on and technical where you have to do an apprenticeship and then wait for someone to retire and free up a position.

            2. Also in the arts even if you’ve ‘made it’ you often aren’t paid that well despite what instagram might indicate. A few friends if mine are famous musicians like million Spotify listeners and selling out 5k cap venues nightly, and I still make more money at my boring office job.

            3. First anon is closer, very technical work where you’ve gotta wait for the current workforce to retire out, or already have connections who will hireyou for that. Definitely not arts. He has a conditional job offer where he’s on a list to hire as people retire/move on and first it took forever to get the training, now we’re waiting forever for people to retire.

            4. Any academic job would fit this description, and even a lot of non-academic jobs in STEM. It’s extra bad right now given the federal jobs and funding situation. This isn’t just a starving artist scenario but also applies to the kind of jobs you really want people to do.

            5. What? No, academic jobs do not meet this description. Plenty of people go on a straight path from grad school to postdoc to tenure track. Some people end up having to do multiple postdocs, which involves moving around and isn’t easy on a family, but postdoc positions pay you decent money. It’s not a hobby.

            6. Academic jobs can meet the OP’s description, not the “sounds like it’s just a hobby” characterization. Though honestly there are people who do academic research on the side and off and on, adjuncting, publishing, between degrees, while hoping a TT job will come through. That’s not “a hobby” either but they may need a day job while they do it.

            7. You don’t normally wait around for 5 years trying to “break into” academia. You either get a job in academia or you don’t, in which case you leave academia unless you’re independently wealthy and don’t need paying work. If by waiting around you mean doing a postdoc, that doesn’t sound like OP’s husband’s situation at all. The standard career pipeline in many academic fields includes a postdoc, but it pays (though not super well) and postdocs ARE academics – they aren’t waiting to become academics.

            8. OP’s husband isn’t in academia because it is something that will pay well when it comes through. But many people spend five years or more trying to get a full time professorship without doing a single postdoc. They are adjuncting and publishing and chasing VAPs.

         2. Ok, but realistically, how long will it take for someone to retire so that his conditional job offer actually comes through?

            And where it is it/how far away is it from your current location?

            This is like when you go to a restaurant and they tell you it will be an hour-long wait, because every table is full and there’s 3 people ahead of you. But if you look around and see that 5 tables have completely clean plates and empty drink cups, most of them will probably leave soon, and it’s really only 10-15 minutes.

            So are we talking 5 people in front of your DH, with 5-10 years likely before retirement, or we’re waiting on that one guy that just won’t leave, even though he should’ve retired two years ago?

            Are you talking about moving to the next city over, such that your house and school district will be nicer, but daycare will actually only be 10 extra minutes away?

            You shouldn’t be held hostage to the TBD job for DH, but knowing the factors and the realistic trade-offs and time horizons might help him see that he’s being ridiculous to wait 10+ years for a job in another state OR blocking moves for a 6-month wait in a city 30 minutes away.

            1. We’re taking anywhere from 2 months to 2 years, and it’s going to be an interstate move.

         3. Airline pilot! First officer waiting to get the left seat, and hoping for a better base as well.

5. James Van Der Beek has died (cancer).

   1. Oh how sad, I hadn’t heard. I used to love Dawson’s Creek (elder millenial here). I found the tribute performance his castmates did last year really moving, too.

   2. I’m so sad to hear that — loved him in that short-lived show the B in Apt 2B

   3. So sorry to see it. He was so young. I have a millennial fondness for Dawson’s Creek and loved him in Don’t Trust the B in Apt. 23 where he played himself.

   4. RIP – truly awful news. He seemed to have a truly wonderful marriage and home life.

      If you are due for a colonoscopy (or a mammogram!), perhaps consider messaging your doctor about scheduling it. It is so easy to procrastinate unpleasant and kind of scary necessary things, so I get it, but this might be a good inspiration to take action today.

      1. This right here. Between him and Chadwick Boseman, we have been warned. I had a cousin die of this before he was at the age recommended for screenings (no family history; his parents were alive and healthy when he died).

      2. Also if you have symptoms, don’t wait till the screening age. It is very easy to downplay and normalize GI symptoms in general or blame ourselves for our diet or nerves when it may be something serious.

         1. Definitrly. A change in your norm counts as a symptom too.

      3. Yup. I was low risk (no real cancer history in my family at all), mid 40’s, no symptoms. . . and my colonoscopy this spring found several polyps, including a 2.5 cm precancerous one. On a 3 year screening plan. If I’d have waited or talked my doc into the Cologuard, it may well have become colon cancer.

      4. I read the obit in the NYT and I’m struck by how he was younger than me. My first colonoscopy was 9/24, which was the year he announced he had cancer… i’ll bet it was his first one. I had pushed for one earlier because my grandmother had colon cancer and they’d told me that because she had it in her 60s I should just stick to the regular schedule, which at the time was something like age 55. They just changed it to be earlier and that was why I got mine.

         They really really need to move it up farther. Age 35? The young people dying from colon cancer is heartbreaking.

         1. +100. A good friend died of colon cancer this past year at 41. He was diagnosed at 38 when he went in with symptoms. His wife knew it was serious from the beginning because he, a chronic putter-offer of things, called and asked to be put on a cancellation list and then called around until he got an appointment.

   5. He and his wife are deeeeeep into MAHA and he was very vague about his treatment plans. I suspect he didn’t do conventional western medical treatment.

      1. Because he needed to share with the world details of his treatment… oh the judgment here!

         1. I mean when you’ve repeatedly championed RFK it’s fair to say you might not have the best judgement about medical things.

            1. Life is complicated. I knew a kid with a broken arm where the family was devout Christian Scientists and they just learned to look past the cast and not talk about it. But he got the cast. The problem with MAHA is that they aren’t wrong 100% of the time. If they were batsh*t about everything, they’d have a point. I just don’t take health advice from someone who wears denim to the gym and is a lawyer (I am a lawyer and there isn’t that much “doctor” in “juris doctor”). YMMV.

            2. I would love to hear what you think MAHA isn’t right about.

               (I doubt we’d see eye to eye)

            3. to 4:33 – I’m also the autism mom up above and if you think MAHA is right about that (any of it) then you can take a long walk off a short pier.

               Also unlike MAHA I was happy with measles being eradicated.

               Also unlike RFK I was happy with actual experts being on governmental panels that decide things like children’s vaccine schedules and the makeup of school lunches.

            4. What I see happening is that MAHA will be wrong about something, and then people rush to correct them, end up overcorrecting them, and being wrong themselves.

               It is actually a big deal that medicine was missing the opportunity to treat with folinic acid kids with a relevant autoimmune condition. It is a big deal that getting an essential nutrient to their nervous system addressed their aphasia and allowed them to start speaking. It is a big deal that that treatable and severe conditions with presentations that providers find indistinguishable from ASD are not tested for as part of the diagnostic process because they’re perceived as rare or hard to test for or because providers have simply never heard of them or because they haven’t kept up with testing advances.

               Even when ASD is a correct diagnosis, the neglect of linked treatable medical conditions is a scandal, and the mantra that autism can’t be treated or cured is far too often used to discourage patients from getting appropriate medical care just because pain, discomfort, and illness present in an autistic way.

               And the research on Tylenol was misunderstood and misrepresented by MAHA, but it actually would be weird if Tylenol were A-OK for people who genetically have less glutathione to metabolize Tylenol with.

            5. I know you like posting these things that folks have no idea what you are referring to, but it gets tiresome. You are non scientist non doctor using medical terminology often incorrectly.

            6. Parents need to be able to advocate for their kids in healthcare without becoming doctors or scientists. The advocates who favor acceptance over medicalization like to point out that e.g. Tylenol is not a cause because the real cause is genetic. But then they ignore the implications of the actual research on what those genetic causes are and how they work.

               People who mock and reject every single MAHA idea are helping them politicize public health.

         2. If another famous person dies because they tried to treat their cancer with horse dewormer or whatnot, I hope that at least moves some people to consider actual science.

      2. TBH at some point, not every cancer is cureable or even treatable, even in an early-detectible and sometimes-treatable one like colon cancer. I had a parent who chose to fight an aggressive stage 4 cancer diagnosis, where the result was maybe 6 more awful months instead of 6 fewer months on just palliative care and hospice. It wasn’t me being told that my life was going to be over shockingly sooner than expected, but science and classic western medical treatment isn’t at the point where it always has something to offer. A friend a year older than me just threw in the towel and focused on family when he got a similar Dx. I hope science catches up. But I’m not MAHA hating on these people the way I am with the local measles outbreak we are having.

         1. This is all true, but it’s crushing when it probably would have been curable, but somebody just had to try ivermectin for months first before they were willing to contemplate standard treatment, and the cancer got worse while they delayed. This has happened.

            1. Sure, but you don’t know it happened here, and it’s a little gross to speak ill of the very very newly dead on such wild speculation.

            2. I think that MUCH earlier detection really needs to happen, but IDK if you can get people in their invincible 30s in for a colonoscopy. But so many people are dying needlessly. IDK if this happened decades ago, but the Black Panther dying really shook me. He was otherwise the picture of health. And now this.

            3. Cancer isn’t curable, it’s treatable and we’re not very good at treating it still. Every single person middle aged person I know who has had non-melanoma cancer has had it come back.

               There’s a reason we say that treatment is matter between a patient and their doctors. Our role is to remember his accomplishments and wish his family well.

            4. We need to figure out what is causing the increase. Usually when cancer starts increasing, the standby is that people got fatter and lazier, and I’ve heard people say this about colon cancer. It’s true that obesity (or at least its underlying causes) is a risk factor for cancer. But far too many of the early cancer cases are in people who were fit and healthy, to the point that they have been asking questions about health supplements or protein powders that athletes disproportionately consume, and worrying about risk factors like running. Vaguely pointing fingers at “ultra processed foods” places blame on people for their dietary choices, but there is a lot of research on specific ingredients that are known to increase inflammation in the colon and which I would be fine with seeing banned. But those are just good things to do anyway; we don’t actually know what’s going on yet.

            5. My theory it’s all the meat. So many people are low carb, keto, and erroneously obsessed with ‘protein’. Humans have never eaten so many animals before.

            6. We know that nitrosamines in cured meats are carcinogens. But I would bet that lifestyle choices are probably a distraction from something industry could change (e.g. all the microplastics).

               I think you’re probably underestimating how much meat people used to eat (how many white American grandpas were willing to eat a single meal without meat in it?), and how much of it was cured (hot dogs, ham, bacon).

      3. This is the sort of knee-jerk judgmental comment i come to corporette for. Thank you for being my entertainment for the day.

      4. It might surprise you that many people take many rounds of FOLFOX and the friends and still end up dead.

         You don’t have to walk the cancer road very long to understand nothing is cut and dry about it.

      5. Judging someone else’s cancer decisions (that we have zero entitlement to know about!) is absolutely tempting karma.

         As someone who has walked that road, I dearly hope it’s not something you ever have to personally experience.

         I was diagnosed with colon cancer the same year as two other I know. All of us in our 30s with no pre-existing conditions and I’m the only one of us alive.

6. so did anyone see the Pam Bondi footage from today? kind of wild that we used to think water bottles could make you unprofessional when nowadays you can just shout childish insults at senators and say we shouldn’t care about exposing child abuse victims because hey the stock market is doing good

   1. Genuine question- Joe Biden administration had access to these files first. Why were they not released? Do we know/suspect reasons?

      1. Did they not just want it to all go away because it would disrupt power structures? Biden promised donors that things would stay fundamentally the same.

      2. Because Congress specifically had to pass a law to say these files could be released?

      3. Exactly. Donald Trump administration had access to these files at first presidency. Why were they not released? Do we know/suspect reasons?

      4. Exactly – Trump administration had full access to these files at first presidency. Why were they not released? Do we know/suspect reasons?

      5. Setting aside the hoops that had to be jumped through, these are not the types of documents the DOJ usually releases. And Biden very much believed that the DOJ should operate without any political pressure.

         Ironically, it was Trump and the far-right podcasters who made a huge issue of the Epstein files and promises to release them – and then (naturally)reneged once he was in office.

         1. On your account, it sounds like Biden wasn’t concerned about a total absence of accountability for the feds who helped with the cover up or about corruption within the DOJ? That’s a huge part of this entire scandal; it’s not just about justice for the victims, but about corruption.

            1. Knock it off with the what about ism or go back to West Palm Beach already. We’re here, it’s now, and what are we going to do about the fact that all of these men are walking around free as birds when there’s overwhelming evidence that many of them participated in the systematic trafficking and rape of children? Your answer is to point fingers at a previous administration? Give me a f’n break.

            2. What we’re going to do is hold everyone accountable. That’s going to involve some finger pointing, yeah.

            3. Sure. Start with the abusers – the principals – and then we can get to the accessories, if you’re really asking for accountability in good faith.

   2. I had it on for about 5 minutes during lunch before I had so much rage I had to turn it off. She’s just reading out insults from her binder to every D that asks a real question. Deflections and insults. Then the R’s thank her for being there and ask her softballs about vapes coming from China. I am so sad that this is where we are.

      1. on bluesky they were calling it a burn book

7. I’m seeing a lot of ads for jeans from Ayr – any reviews? Anything else I need if I order from them?

   1. I tried the ‘high hopes’ pants and wasn’t super impressed. It was a nice enough fit, but the ponte was fairly thin. I’ve bought more substantial pants at Talbots or Boden for much less.

   2. I have two pairs of jeans from them and I like them, although they’re not the most comfortable jeans I reach for (my Faherty ones are so comfortable). I also got black ponte pants from Ayr and those are my long haul flight pants. Look decent, feel like sweatpants. I probably wouldn’t wear them to work but wouldn’t be concerned with a colleague seeing me in them on a flight.

   3. Greats ads, disappointing product. I returned jeans I ordered.

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