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Lyssa
This is very cute!
Threadjack: What color tights and shoes do you wear with a gray skirt? I’ve been doing black and black (on the theory that 2 out of 3 (the tights, skirt, and shoes) should match), but a) that gets boring (perhaps I need some more interesting black shoes), b) that seems a bit harsh with lighter grays, and c) that doesn’t really allow me to wear my colored shoes. Today I tried to pair a lighter gray skirt with lighter gray tights and burgundy shoes, but something about it looks off, and I can’t figure out what. Maybe I should go with dark gray tights so it doesn’t look like I’m trying to match the tights and skirt? But that seems like maybe I’d have too many colors. Maybe I just need more non-gray skirts? (though I can never figure this out for colored skirts, either, so that pretty much just leaves black).
In the Pink
Navy? Tights and shoes?
I personally like grey and shades of purple too…but I think colored tights for the office are not appropriate, although maybe in a casual artistic sort of workplace?.
Pink and grey as well as pink and light blue are very Parisian combinations to me, but again…that’s not taking into account tights.
Baconpancakes
I thought if they match your skirt or shoes they’re ok, ie purple skirt, purple tights, black shoes, OR grey skirt, purple tights, purple shoes. I usually wear that combo with boring sweaters and tops, plain colors. I work in a business casual (no jeans, etc) office environment. Can other people weigh in?
AnnieAnon
This is the rule I follow. If it still doesn’t look right for some reason then I wear nude micro fishnets.
Cat
probably not the answer you want, but I wear nude hose with gray for this reason :) interested to hear others’ ideas!
Woods-comma-Elle
Nude (in the summer) or black (in the winter), but also in the winter nude sometimes if the skirt is light grey. Also it would depend on what top you are wearing , but generally agree that skirt and tights matching can (sometimes) look a bit odd.
I'm Just Me
I would go with burgundy tights with the burgundy shoes.
I get the whole 2 out of 3 matching, but like my tights to match my shoes because I think it gives me a longer line of my leg (I’m pretty short).
KC
I usually wear solid or patterned black tights with grey. Maybe a subtle pattern would feel fresh while still remaining professional?
CKB
This is what I was going to suggest. I’d wear (and have worn) a grey skirt, patterned black tights and burgundy shoes.
Duchess
What if you matched to your shirt? I’m thinking like grey skirt, black tights, and purple sweater with purple shoes. Or like red jacket with red shoes? I think if it’s a color, then you’re not going to notice the tights at all really.
Diana Barry
I usually wear black tights and black boots (riding boots) in the winter to help keep my legs warm. I wear far fewer colored shoes in the winter, particularly with skirts.
tesyaa
My first choice would be boots with nude hose.
Bonnie
Either black tights and black shoes or colored shoes like navy or burgundy with matching tights. I think colored tights are professional so long as they’re not crazy colors. I find that matching grays is particularly difficult and just never seems to turn out right for me. I do like KC’s idea of subtle patterned tights.
This dress has a lot of promise. I like that there is a seam in the back to break up the line and that the silver tab does not have the company’s name on it.
neurosciency
gray and navy, gray and emerald, gray and magenta are all color combos that i love. also gray and more gray, depending on what shade it is.
MissK
I try to follow the 2 out of 3 rule as well.
I think with grey skirts, grey tights that are about 2 shades different look fine. You could always break it up with something that’s a little more interesting – a ribbed tight for example – but that’s probably a “know your office” issue.
Related to this, I’m on the shorter side and I have a pair of taupe-ish brown ankle boots that I wear frequently with dark brown tights and it’s easily my most complimented tights/shoes combo. I would think that in the case of grey skirt/grey tights, a similar shade difference would be equally as nice.
Anon
I like purple or burgundy with grey. Obviously depends on what you’re wearing on top. I have a grey ponte dress that I wear with burgundy tights. The shoes are multi-color – burgundy, a bit of blue and a dark gray. I work in a conservative environment and no one has given me side eye (yet).
Tara B.
I wore dark gray tights with a lighter gray skirt Tuesday. The trick is to keep the grays in the same family (warm, cool, blue-ish, brown-ish). A good eye for the subtle undertones and strong light are recommended. Also it helped that the skirt is a heather – so I also had different textures to kill any mis-matchy snafus.
(Typed this with one hand. Cat sleeping on the other one.)
preg anon
I’ve been really wanting a cute cape but I haven’t found the perfect one. And then a few days ago, I swore off shopping after reorganizing my closet and realizing I have way too many clothes. BUT THEN Belle from Capitol Hill Style posted the. perfect. cape. and I can’t stop thinking about it. I want it. I want it. I want it bad.
preg anon
It’s this one, in case you’re wondering.
http://www.zara.com/us/en/woman/coats/coats/hand-made-wool-cape-c499001p1293035.html
Diana Barry
What kind of weather is that cape for? If it is cold, I want long sleeves and something that closes. If it is warm, I don’t need a coat at all. I guess I just don’t get capes. ;)
preg anon
Yes, I see your point, and my husband would probably agree. But we live in Houston where it doesn’t get all that cold, and I still want to wear cute winter clothes! :)
I may set a record for the number of comments in one day. But what else am I supposed to do when the baby is napping and the rest of the house is being painted? I’m trapped in a room with my computer and you gals. It’s not too bad, actually.
Houston Attny
Being in Houston, I totally get the attraction of this. I’ve actually not worn a full-length wool coat in years. This is oh-so-cute.
Tara B.
That’s technically a ruana and yes, I have one on my wishlist, too. Only the one I am getting is dark charcoal and a little longer. Perfect for the cooler mornings. Woot!
cbackson
I love capes…and not to enable your shopping, but I used to have one that was one of my most versatile, most-complemented wardrobe pieces.
Susedna
A few years ago, Anthropologie had a bunch. They’re probably now on Ebay for 1/3 the original retail price, maybe less. If I weren’t so bloody tired, I’d hunt down a few links from Ebay and post here.
I woke up at 5:15am this morning, because I had to get to company HQ for a really early meeting and I am now feeling quite spent.
NOLA
This is so different from what I was expecting when you said cape! Very casual but I like it.
Woods-comma-Elle
Likewise! I have a cape I bought in 2005 and it’s really a bit scruffy now and it’s not that warm but I love love love it and I just can’t get rid of it until I find a new one!
Anonymous
I saw that cape and loved it, too. I have a short dark grey cape from BCBG that I rarely wear (its more of a dressy piece than an everyday piece) and its hard to justify another cape in my wardrobe. But, like you, I am pregnant and I miss shopping A LOT, but buying clothes at this point seems dumb since I look like a pumpkin!
All that rambling to say that I want to buy that cape, too, but it seems silly at this point both because I have way too much stuff and I’m pregnant.
posey
a cape actually sounds like it would be perfect for a pregnant woman, and would transition really well for the few months post-pregnancy.
preg anon
I agree. I was about to say the same thing. (I’m not pregnant anymore despite my handle.) I’m working on a winter coat post on my blog and was thinking I’d recommend a couple of capes.
Parfait
Yes! Plus you can cozy the babe up all snuggly inside it when it emerges.
Nonny
I have two very old capes that will be my pregnancy winter outerwear. Not going to even bother looking for a coat.
Monday
I had a black DKNY cape for a while–I loved it’s look and got a lot of compliments on it. However, wearing a shoulder bag with it was always very uncomfortable and messy, and since I pretty much always carry a shoulder bag I ended up donating the cape after a few years. (Got it for $20, in case this sounds too reckless.) Just something to consider with capes in general.
preg anon
Hmmm. Interesting thought. My first time to really want a cape was when Blair on Gossip Girl wore one (I basically want to dress like her all the time). And now that I’m thinking about it, she was carrying a handbag not a shoulder bag.
Nonny
When I wear a cape, I put my shoulder bag on under the cape rather than over it. Problem solved.
Tara B.
Just saw a video a little while ago of some European women on a walking tour – one with her shoulder bag on under her blazer. It was still accessible, but neatly tucked close to the body. I thought it was brilliant.
Killer Kitten Heels
Any suggestions for developing a personal weekend style? I spent most of my 20s going through phases (boho phase, rocker phase, ska-punk phase, preppy phase) and somehow have ended up with a casual wardrobe of plain cotton tank tops and various types of hooded sweatshirt. My H is actually pretty stylish (he generally looks like he just stepped off the pages of a Banana Republic or J.Crew ad), and lately when we go out, I feel like we’re getting the “how-the-heck-did-a-frump-like-her-land-a-guy-like-that?!!?” looks. I’m fine when we get dressed up, because I look darned good in sheath dress and love high heels and chunky jewelry, but when we’re doing stuff like going out locally for a beer or something (where I can’t wear my dresses and heels because they would look absurd), I feel underdressed and uncomfortable. I’d really like to have a better casual wardrobe, but am struggling with what the “theme” of it all should be, and I end up basically paralyzed by indecision. Suggestions for blogs/books/other resources to help me come up with (and execute) a new wardrobe concept?
KC
Maybe you could start by subbing items to slightly dress up your jeans and sweatshirt routine? For example, layer a blazer with the jeans and add a chunky necklace or scarf. Or wear a sweater with the jeans and add a pair of boots. I think accessorizing an otherwise simple combination of jeans and a tank top keeps it interesting without becoming too dressy.
KC
For specific resources, I like Belle at CHS’s weekend ideas: http://caphillstyle.com/capitol/category/three-ways
Pinterest is also a good source of outfit inspiration pictures. Maybe try searching weekend outfit or weekend style: http://www.pinterest.com/search/pins/?q=weekend%20outfit&rs=ac&len=7
Killer Kitten Heels
Conceptually I get what you’re saying, but I feel like I fail utterly in the execution, and end up looking like someone brought their boring mom who’s desperately trying to look “cool” to the bar.
. . . and after reading what I just wrote, I’m starting to wonder if this is less of a wardrobe issue and more of a “I need to lose 15 lbs and/or have a longer conversation about my self-esteem with my therapist” issue.
Diana Barry
I think you should focus on tops and shoes to dress it up, if you have jeans that you like.* I have a silly little tank top with a peplum that I can wear with my jeans and look fancy. I also have a short sleeve puff sleeve purple jacket that I can wear over a long-sleeve tee and jeans and look cute, and then I can wear whatever shoes (ballet flats or boots, mostly) that go with the weather and casual/dressiness level.
*Also, side note: I suddenly felt much more put together when I started wearing my nice jeans ALL THE TIME, and not the super-stretchy jeans that sag in the bum and I have to pull up every 5 minutes because they have stretched out. Futzing with my clothes automatically makes me feel frumpy.
preg anon
It sounds like you may not be wearing clothes that fit. Could that be the case? First item: Go to Nordstrom (or whatever) and buy a nice pair of jeans that fits. Buy them as tight as you can stand them with a high enough waist that you don’t get muffin top, if that’s your issue. You will feel ten million times better.
Anne Shirley
I think it sounds like a wardrobe issue! You like jeans and easy tops- great! So go buy a new pair of coated denim skinnies, a few button down shirt you can wear untucked, partially unbuttoned to show off a cute tank, and a pair of boots. Or go the drapy cardigan route. Or buy a cute jersey dress you can wear with casual shoes. Or something in a color you love. Caphillstyle often posts weekend looks that sound like they’d work for you.
The great thing about a casual weekend wardrobe is that it’s 2 days. You just don’t need all that much. I typically wind up with 3-4 cute weekend looks, sub in a frumpy day here and there, and get through the season just fine.
KC
It could be that you don’t love your casual pieces as much as your dressy items (hence why you feel like a million bucks in a well fitting sheath and uncomfortable in a sweatshirt). Maybe this calls for a shopping trip to buy one or two new casual pieces that you’re excited to wear and fit as well as your dressier separates?
I only recently started loving jeans after finding a well fitting pair. For years they were always too big in a spot, or too short, or flared at the wrong place. As a result, I felt schlubby when wearing them. With the right pair that fits properly, I feel put together and comfortable – even though they’re casual. Maybe that’s the case for you?
TO Lawyer
I think KC’s first sentence is spot-on. I used to feel guilty spending money on casual clothes because I could only wear them 2 days a week but then a casual event would come up and I would want to pull my hair out because I couldn’t find something to wear.
Make sure you have at least 2 pairs of jeans you like and are comfortable in. After that, I think fall/winter casual dressing is easy: jeans + sweater + scarf + boots. Or casual dress + tights + boots.
And accessorize – I use my long necklaces and/or a scarf with every outfit – it makes it go from I just threw on whatever I could to find to I’m dressing casually but intentionally.
Anon
Second this. I always felt guilty spending money on “play clothes” and put most of my wardrobe budget toward building a good work wardrobe. I don’t know if this is a hangover of wearing a school uniform for years! When I found myself single and dating again, I had to take a long, hard look at my casual clothes. I just had not spent the time or money building outfits – everything was haphazard, some good pieces but mostly not. I made an appointment with the same personal shopper at Nordstrom that I visited for work clothes. I told her I needed date appropriate clothes, age appropriate casual wear and some new weekend accessories. She managed to really help me define a style/brand for my weekend self, starting with two new pairs of jeans (one colored, one dark wash), new boots, a less structured purse and some new sweaters, tunics and other tops. Since she knew a lot of my wardrobe already she was able to say “wear this top, that belt you bought last year, and that gold necklace you got last fall.” I left with what I felt like were a ton of options for everything from going to a sporting event during the day, to dinner with friends, to drinks with a new guy. Now if she could just find me the guy…
Anon
If you haven’t already, check out the “mom on the go” looks at You Look Fab — they’re good formulas for anyone, not just moms.
NYNY
As a fellow short pear, I know what you mean. My weekend go-tos are a pair of dark wash skinny boot jeans and a denim pencil skirt. I wear them with cute tee shirts or sweaters, depending on how dressed I’m going. Both options flatter my small waist and big booty. I wear the jeans over heeled ankle boots in the fall and winter, and I wear the skirt with tights and knee-high boots, either low-heeled motorcyclish ones for casual/hipster events, or higher heeled simple boots for dressier occasions.
preg anon
Yeah, I agree. I was going to suggest chunky jewelry and scarves. Yesterday, I wore my favorite gray t-shirt from Target with an infinity scarf in gray chevron. I seriously got three compliments (and I don’t see that many people in a day!) on how put together I looked. It was just a t-shirt and jeans! It was magical.
preg anon
This is the scarf: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BJ863JY/ref=oh_details_o03_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
It’s actually for nursing because it has enough fabric that you can drape over the baby to hide it all, but you can’t tell at all. It’s really cute.
TBK
OMG! This is going on my registry — NOW! What a great concept.
Miss Behaved
Dude, I’m not even pregnant and I want that scarf in the red or blue stripe
SoCalAtty
Ok, I really want this…think anyone will know what it’s really for?
Anonymous
No, not at all. You totally can’t tell.
Calico
Now I know what to get my pregnant friends, thanks!
preg 3L
Wow! Just added it to my registry too!
Tara B.
Irony Alert!!!! I recently became obsessed with infinity/circle scarves/smoke rings (super old term for them) and this exact one came up several times.
Blair Waldorf
My weekend wardrobe for fall/winter/spring is skinny jeans, boots, and an interesting top. I’ll either throw on a chunky sweater, or a blouse and a drapey sweater over it. You can also go for sweaterdress, tights, and boots. Also, find a good casual jacket to throw it all together, like an olive military style one, or a trench – whatever suits your style best. You can accessorize with fun infinity scarves or scarves in interesting colors, and your chunky jewelry will still work on weekends!
Killer Kitten Heels
This is what I want to wear, but I feel way too pear-shaped for it. I put on the skinny jeans, which emphasize my enormous butt, and then I put on the drapey tops, and they completely drown my actually small-ish waist, and suddenly I look like the Michelin Man got lost in a hipster’s closet. Basically, I need a guide to casual-wear for short, chubby, pear-shaped people.
Blair Waldorf
Ah yes, you have to dress for your shape!
I second going to Nordstrom for a consultation. But it sounds like maybe a dress would be a better option as a weekend staple. Something casual you can belt to accentuate your curves, and you can pair with tights, boots, a nice jacket, and a scarf.
In terms of pants, maybe dark wash boot cut would be better for you, with flats or boots underneath. And not so much drapey tops. Instead, focus on finding tops that have a v-neck and rouching. And you can still pair with a cute coat, scarf, or jewelry!
Blair Waldorf
Dresses like these:
http://www.loft.com/cosmic-dot-print-sheer-sleeve-tie-waist-dress/315867?colorExplode=false&skuId=14978241&catid=catl000013&productPageType=fullPriceProducts&defaultColor=1394
http://bananarepublic.gap.com/browse/product.do?cid=42231&vid=1&pid=685981022
http://piperlime.gap.com/browse/product.do?cid=63484&vid=1&pid=921888002
http://oldnavy.gap.com/browse/product.do?cid=91338&vid=1&pid=648265002
Killer Kitten Heels
I’m worried Nordstrom stylists are going to make me look too “old,” if that makes sense. H works in a creative field, and most of our weekend time is spent with his (similarly creative) friends (because mine live out-of-state) – I’m extremely self-conscious about being “the boring-@ss lawyer” of the group, and am worried that things like blazers/boot-cut jeans/dresses-when-no-one-else-is-wearing-them-even-if-the-dress-is-a-casual-jersey-dress, all of which are what (I expect) a Nordie’s stylist would recommend, are going to add to the uptight-boring impression.
I’m just sick of being so uncomfortable around these people, and making my husband uncomfortable because he’s the only one with a partner who looks like an uptight, frumpy, boring nerdlinger. But I also can’t dress like the other (significantly thinner) women in the group, because then we’re back to hipster Michelin Man. Ugh. I KNOW I am overthinking this but I can’t seem to stop myself.
Bonnie
If you tell the stylist what you just said here, they can tailor the looks for what you need. And if you don’t feel confident in what they select, give them feedback and ultimately if you’re not satisfied, you can walk away.
Anon
So – I think you are projecting. You haven’t said anything that would lead me to believe that your husband is uncomfortable with how you look. I think YOU are uncomfortable with how you look. It could be that you need a wardrobe adjustment, or it could be that you need an attitude adjustment (that sounds snarky but I mean it sincerely), or a little bit of both.
Don’t try to dress to fit in with the crowd. Dress to be comfortable and own who you are. I don’t like tight clothing, and so I will never be the girl in jeggings, even if ever other girl in the room is in jeggings. I would feel supremely uncomfortable wearing them – I’d be more comfortable in sweatpants, or jeans, or a ball gown – as long as I was true to myself. I think that’s the balance you need to strike here. You need to find your own happy, comfortable clothing, and OWN WHO YOU ARE. Your husband didn’t marry you because you were an extremely creative fashionista/hipster/whatever – he obviously loves you, despite the boring-@ss-lawyer that you are :) (i’m one too). So breathe, relax – and then maybe go shopping WITH him this weekend and have him help you find a few new pieces?
Killer Kitten Heels
Anon, thanks, you’re right about the attitude adjustment.
And I didn’t include it in my original post, but my H DOES make comments from time to time that indicate (gently) that he’s unhappy with how I dress when we go out casually (most of the criticism is that I’m ‘too formal/dressy’, and it generally comes up when I’ve put on things like trouser-cut jeans, blazers, dresses for casual events, etc.). I’ve asked him to help me shop, but he insists he “doesn’t care what I wear” . . . until the next time we need to go somewhere and I put on a blazer and get chastised for being “all dressed up.” I’d like to not give a $hit what he or his stupid friends think, but I’m mentally not there yet.
TO Lawyer
Ok I read your post recent post and I think you just need to add a couple things to your wardrobe to help make things more casual. How about a leather jacket or a denim one to replace your blazers?
I’ve been told “I look like I’m going to a meeting” on weekends when I put a blazer on so I’ve found that throwing a leather jacket on an outfit helps me make it weekend-casual. When I first bought it, I thought it didn’t fit into my style aesthetic but I find it was actually good for me to branch out (and now I don’t look too dressed up on weekends_ And I’m going to reiterate my earlier scarf suggestion.
Diana Barry
Would your husband go with you to help pick out casual clothes? It is UNCOOL of him to pull a bait and switch of “oh, I don’t care what you wear” >>>> “you’re too dressed up!” Uncool, I say!
I agree that a leather jacket or other moto-casual jacket (not blazer) would be a good idea – how about a fitted one to emphasize your small waist? :)
SoCalAtty
What great sentiments about being comfortable and being you! Last night, husband and I went to our weekly Wednesday night at the shooting range. I had on dark wash Wranglers (with really cute detailing on the back pockets), a tucked in black tank top, a cute belt, and a light blue flannel shirt over. Also, a black Smith and Wesson hat. I was cracking up at what I was wearing, but it is one of my favorite “weekend” things to wear – cute jeans, boots, tank top and hat…and my husband looked over at me while we were in the car driving up and said “no, you look really cute!”
I totally agree with these posters, first you have to figure out what you love to wear – and if it is jeans and sweatshirts, great! Find some you love that look good on you! – and then own it.
Calico
Rather than a personal shopper, I’d recommend taking a moment to “brand” yourself. What do you feel good in? Feminine shapes? Menswear inspired? Preppy? I realized that I love looking like a helpful scout in the woods so I almost exclusively buy my casual clothes from Madewell. If you like feminine things like ruffles, skirts, dresses, try Anthropologie. If you like preppy, go to J Crew. Zara is good for edgy fashion trends. If you find something that works than stick with that store, they usually don’t stray too far from their target customer.
hoola hoopa
My H also works in a creative field and I am in analytics… which is decidedly uncool in terms of fashion style. He doesn’t seem to care, but I do. So I started to be analytical about what the other women wore and was able to identify things they did that I felt comfortable emulating. Listen also to where they shop and which items earn complements from each other.
I second the suggestion of substituting items and investing in weekend staples. Get a basic uniform to which you could add funkier accessories or clothing items.
I’m a pear/hourglass and wear skinny jeans with long, fitted tops. It looks good on me. GL!
Two Cents
I hear you. I’m also slightly pear shaped and recently set up an appt with a Nordstrom personal shopper because my casual weekend wardrobe was sorely lacking. She put me in a lot of skinny jeans, drapey tops, and boots. I like the skinny jeans but the drapey tops do nothing for my waist, which is nice and small. DH saw them and said they were “pregger” tops, which I agree with (at least on my figure).
So instead of a drapey top, how about skinny jeans and a long, form fitting sweater tunic? If you wear a longer top you won’t feel as self conscious about your backside, but the top should be form fitting so that your waist doesn’t get hidden.
Stephanie
After reading about the people you’re going out with and the places you’re going, I think you need to steer clear of blazers, scarves (mostly, at least cute printed ones that “tie together your outfit”), and any kind of matchy, colorful jewelry. I wouldn’t wear a dress to any of those gatherings, either, but I’m not a dress person anyway except for work or a REALLY fancy date night. Have you tried slim boot cut jeans? You might like those. I have a million skinny jeans but I recently added a couple slim boot cuts for when I want to wear heeled shoes, but not have that overly done up skinny jeans with high heels or ankle boots thing going. What about a cute drapey tshirt or blouse (drapey but not flowy) with a chunky cardigan or military type anorak jacket over it? Ankle boots with a small heel, and jewelry that is more edgy/rocker/not trying hard. I think that’s the key with something so casual– not looking like you tried hard, but without wearing like faded mom jeans and a solid crew neck purple tshirt with running shoes. A blog you might try is Aint No Mom Jeans– yes it’s by a mom and for moms, but she is really cute and mostly has this look– casual by stylish in a slightly hipster way.
Samantha
Seconding the suggestion for a skimming tunic that covers your hips, paired with tights or jeggings. Ideally the tunic should be a silky or poly-blend fabric (not jersey because that may cling to bulges) that will skim over the widest part of your hips but emphasize your narrow top half (since you’re a pear).
TBK
I’m tall and pear shaped, but the skinny jeans/chunky sweater combo also make me look like hipster Michelin Man (love that). I stick with dark wash bootcut jeans, fitted tops, and sweaters/jackets that hit at the high hip. Eff the trends. Sometimes they just don’t make you look good. I’d rather look good than look like I tried to be trendy but wound up looking just fat. When I want to look pulled together on the weekends in the winter, I wear my jeans, leather shoes (boots or loafers), a tank top/cami, and a tailored cardigan buttoned up to just below the bust (shows off my waist and makes my b@@bs look bigger). For going out, I wear similar but with a velvet blazer (with a defined waist and not too long over the hips) instead of the cardi, plus evening jewelry (chunky/dangly/sparkly). I, too, love the slouchy-but-chic skinny jeans/boots/chunky sweater look, but it’s never going to make me look anything but slouchy and frumpy. For me, that’s a JSFAMO trend.
HSAL
TBK, you’re the best. And you might possibly be a tall version of me. I totally agree. Too many people are wearing things that don’t flatter them because that’s what it’s style. When I read blogs, I’ve started realizing that “on trend” means “ugly, but people will buy it anyway because we tell them to.”
CKB
This is totally me too. I recently went out & tried on a bunch of skinny jeans, inspired by my new body confidence because of my new workout regime. They still were unflattering simply because my body shape is my body shape. It just is, regardless of what size I am, and skinny jeans will probably always be less flattering than boot cut or even straight cut jeans. And I’m working on being OK with that.
It’s way better to wear what flatters you & makes you feel confident than wearing clothes that make you feel uncomfortable because you feel like you’re playing dress up. And this is why I also don’t wear scarves. They just aren’t me.
Humdilly
Add a skinny belt at the waist over the drapy cardigan or chunky sweater! Also make sure you aren’t wearing your sweaters TOO long. As a short person I like them to hit right at the bottom of the butt or an inch higher. Any lower and it becomes less flattering (unless it’s meant to be a dress and then it should be proper dress length).
PolyD
You might want to check out Wardrobe Oxygen’s blog. She’s a plus-sized petite and, in my opinion, gives some good ideas and advice for casual looks for the not-tall-and-skinny. Plus I just really like her blog.
JB
Me too! I keep purchasing skinny jeans and chunky sweaters, then as a pear shape it is really not flattering on my shape, to much hip curve. I’ve been moving towards more dresses, but feel like it can be to formal looking. I’m a tall gal, but not that large when you look proportionately (size 12 bottoms when I’m 5-8 and size 8 on top). Very curious to see the responses.
Walnut
I pair dark wash jeans with tanks or shirts in nicer fabrics. I find white house black market good for things like this.
TCFKAG
I have a mixed personal style on the weekends – but as an adult I’ve found that I can really sort of upgrade it by adding to fit and quality. I also like to add just a little more edge to my weekend wardrobe and more fun to my weekend wardrobe – so brighter colors or skulls or whatever. I’m not sure how to explain it. Also tons of blazers and scarves…plus a really good jean jacket.
Miz Swizz
I have the same issues so I’m going to follow this thread closely. Basically I have a huge gap between work and casual clothes and can’t figure out how to bridge it.
Humdilly
Just read this whole thread and I have a very similar issue. My friends and boyfriend frequently tell me I look like a “Mom”. I think it’s important to realize is that this “Mom” style sometimes just means classic. For the past ten years I’ve worn cardigans and blazers and mid-rise jeans because they look best on me and are moderate enough to always be reasonably in style. I like to buy a few cheaper trend pieces each season but I will never be fully trendy and I’m OK with that.
In terms of fit, though, I would suggest finding some perfect fitting pieces to make you really pull off the put-together classic vibe.
In other news, whenever I spice up my outfits to look younger my boyfriend worries about how s*xy I’m dressing :) I think he likes my demure mature look as much as he pokes fun at it. Also one of my best friends the other day told me that she wished she dressed like me. She said I’ve always been ahead of our group with clothing and that she envies how mature I look while she still dresses like a college student.
Humdilly
Also should add, like a few other people in this thread I had to make a conscious effort to buy casual clothes. Just like an awesome pencil skirt or the perfect pumps for the workweek, there are certain go-to things for your casual time that you need to invest in.
Stephanie
I actually stop myself from buying so much work clothes. I have a million black and grey suits, a zillion tops and dresses– enough already. The money is now going into coated zipper skinny jeans, a faux fur vest, and some interesting tops. I also want a flannel shirt because I’m going to pretend I’m young enough not to have worn them in 1993.
Alana
Maybe you could, directly or indirectly, find out where your husband’s female friends and colleagues shop, and check out those stores, searching for something less extreme than their look that flatters your figure.
Mighty Mouse
Are you hoping to coordinate with his style or do you genuinely like his aesthetic? If the latter, can you take some pictures of him in his “signature looks” to take with you to Nordstrom / BR / etc?
And since you specifically mentioned BR and JC, I agree w an earlier poster about being analytical about the styles there–ie *not* matching things or throwing in an “outlier” piece or a detail that seems off (I say this as someone who loves Talbots jackets, etc, during the week but def feel like a Mom if I try to wear them on the weekend!). I’ve gotten compliments on my weekend style when my conservative core is feeling a teensy bit outside her comfort zone.
As well, shoes make the difference for me on the weekend. My overall outlook improved (read: more confidence!) when I got some edgier weekend shoes.
Recent Purchases
I know it’s late for this but I’m in the same boat (and same body shape) as you and here are a couple of recent purchases that might help:
gap boyfriend jean – I have short heavy legs and these are the best I’ve found so far – I got extra long to give myself the ability to choose how how to cuff them : http://www.gap.com/browse/product.do?pid=600626&locale=en_US&kwid=1&sem=false&sdReferer=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2Furl%3Fsa%3Dt%26rct%3Dj%26q%3D%26esrc%3Ds%26frm%3D1%26source%3Dweb%26cd%3D1%26ved%3D0CCwQFjAA%26url%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.gap.com%252Fproducts%252F1969-sexy-boyfriend-selvage-jeans-P600626.jsp%26ei%3DHG9pUrDEJ4fxkQfnzIDYBQ%26usg%3DAFQjCNHuFxLxKigbEvt1GKZnlE_jnsfelg%26sig2%3DebEQuOAAhkbU9XVPdkjWmg%26bvm%3Dbv.55123115%2Cd.eW0
Choose your favorite color mariner https://www.brittanyboutique.com/store/meridienshirt.html (site looks untrustworthy but it’s totally up and up – I’ve done exchanges with no hassles and the quality is outstanding – great for spring fall, add a button front shirt underneath for more layers)
ankle boot – lots to choose from just select the height you like http://www.zappos.com/franco-sarto-quinne-burnt-caramel-leather
field jacket or pea coat and scarf
Good luck!
zora
KKH: If you like yourself in sheath dresses and heels, maybe go for a slightly casual skirt style on the wkends too? A denim pencil skirt, some comfy jersey skirts.. i have a denim pencil skirt that is grey with purple stitching, so it looks fun and different. I also have a sweatshirt material pencil skirt that looks super cazh but still cute. I’ll see if i can find some links below.
Wear them with fitted pull over sweaters on top. Or even just tshirts and a cute sweater.
And then on the bottom: get a few pairs of colored tights, so do some color mixing with the skirts and colored tights. And then get some flat boots or low heeled boots that also look sleek with skirts, even if not as sleek as heels?
Just trying to think of a way to take what you LIKE about your work clothes and turn it into a casual look.
zora
for example, I have a long jersey pencil skirt like this, in non-black i think it looks pretty casual
http://us.asos.com/ASOS-Pencil-Skirt-In-Jersey/11k1em/?iid=3421380
zora
Iknow this is juniors, but here’s an example of a jersey pencil skirt styled casually, with a sweatshirt and flat boots.
http://shop.nordstrom.com/s/lily-white-mid-length-pencil-skirt-juniors-online-only/3610362?origin=category
zora
or corduroy
http://shop.nordstrom.com/S/blanknyc-chord-corduroy-skirt/3581058?origin=category&BaseUrl=Skirts
zora
here you go, a tube skirt in heathered grey. Totes casual
http://shop.nordstrom.com/S/topshop-knee-length-tube-skirt/3499860?origin=category&BaseUrl=Skirts
zora
so you probably want me to shut up, but would this outfit, with any of the skirts above still be too frumpy? Or too fancy?
http://lookbook.nu/look/2918093-Dr-Martens-Boots-Gargoyles-Vintage-Sunglasses
zora
or this outfit?
http://vodkainfusedlemonade.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/img_03261.jpg
Killer Kitten Heels
zora, you rock – your links have been killing it for me all week. Thanks.
And thanks everyone – you’ve given me a lot to think about (and theurge to throw away everything I own and start all over)!
zora
hey girl!!! I”m glad i can help! ;o) and i obviously didn’t feel like working so i did some more wandering round the interwebs and found this other petite outfit blogger that might give you some ideas. She mostly wears very chic outfits, but she also has a couple cute casual outfits on her blog, some of which are close to what i was picturing for you based on what you say you like to wear to work:
like here’s a tube skirt with a tshirt and a fun scarf. And since you are on the short side, you don’t necessarily have to wear flat boots, but maybe boots or booties with a wedge or stacked heel, that just look more casual than work clothes
http://www.wardrobeoxygen.com/2013/07/hiding-from-heat.html
zora
this outfit with a skirt as short as you feel comfortable (you could go with knee length, or mini, straight or aline) http://www.wardrobeoxygen.com/2013/09/what-i-wore-against-rules.html
zora
here’s a maxi skirt look, but I think would be a great casual/artsy going out outfit
http://www.wardrobeoxygen.com/2013/09/what-i-wore-impulse-buy.html
zora
and here she’s got a short skirt with a longer shirt over it, but notice that the shirt comes *in* at the waist, to give her that hourglass shape, instead of being drapey all the way down. But it is drapey enough at the bottom to go over her hips
http://www.wardrobeoxygen.com/2013/09/what-i-wore-nice-splash-of-paprika.html
Anyway, hope these help! If you want more long-distance help from a shopping buddy let me know, this is fun! ;o)
Recent Purchases
I would also highy recommend you try on these “bootcut” jcrew cords – they are straight to my eye and are as close to “magic pants” as I’ve found – I think my bum looks great in them and I never say that about any pants. Sadly it doesn’t seem to work with their denim. http://www.jcrew.com/womens_category/pants/corduroy/PRDOVR~95968/95968.jsp
You might be intersted in a cashmere zip cardi, looks great and dresses down button front shirts and blazers or more casual jackets that you probably already own. I splurged on Magaschoni on sale at bluefly a few years ago and the quality is amazing – still wearing it now. Something similar to this but I would look for color and a heavier weight.
http://www.saksfifthavenue.com/main/ProductDetail.jsp?FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374306442011&PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524446604486&site_refer=AFF001&mid=13816&siteID=J84DHJLQkR4-1wm75vJQEHpNDEOLKdbrpg&LScreativeid=1&LSlinkid=15&LSoid=203720
with this type of jacket and jeans or cords
http://www.lastcall.com/p/Lafayette-148-New-York-Javanese-Haven-Jacket-Dusk/prod18640024_cat6160020__/?icid=&searchType=EndecaDrivenCat&rte=%252Fcategory.service%253FitemId%253Dcat6160020%2526pageSize%253D30%2526No%253D30%2526Ns%253DPCS_SORT%2526refinements%253D&eItemId=prod18640024&cmCat=product
Monday
This dress seems to be modeled very closely on the Michael Michael Kors faux-wraps, right down to the hardware faux-closure. I have one from last fall and have been very happy with it. If anyone is interested in a pattern, search around for these (though the prices may be a bit higher). I usually prefer a pattern for this kind of dress.
Not my dress, but for example of the MMK wraps I am talking about:
http://www1.macys.com/shop/product/michael-michael-kors-dress-long-sleeve-printed-faux-wrap?ID=869604&CategoryID=5449#fn=sp%3D1%26spc%3D11%26kws%3Dmichael%20kors%20faux%20wrap%20dress%26slotId%3D2
Baconpancakes
I love this style dress, but I hate the hardware.
Stephanie
I don’t like this dress at all. The hardware is awful, and it looks matronly. Wrap dresses are hard to get right.
CapHillAnon
Is it longer in person?
Monday
Hits me just above the knee–I am 5’3″ and got a petite. My guess is this model is on the tall side.
Flying Squirrel
Macy’s got me looking, and though it’s not a wrap, I kind of like this one:
http://www1.macys.com/shop/product/alfani-petite-dress-cap-sleeve-colorblock-pleated-a-line?ID=963398&cm_mmc=Retarget-_-4-_-39-_-MP439
My 6.5 month bump can’t really pull it off, though ;)
Mighty Mouse
Saw a few in the MK chain pattern at my local Marshall’s, FYI. Looked cute in person but couldn’t try bc I’m currently bursting-at-the seams pg. I fear for my wallet when I can wear real clothes again!
mascot
Oh, look also available in petites in different colors and cheaper. Go figure
http://www1.macys.com/shop/product/charter-club-petite-dress-three-quarter-sleeve-faux-wrap?ID=1053037&CategoryID=55596#fn=DRESS_OCCASION%3DWear%20to%20Work%26sp%3D1%26spc%3D92%26ruleId%3D65%26slotId%3D9
Marriage counseling DC
Any recs for marriage counselor a in metro DC? Downtown preferred, but def metro accessible. Thanks so much in advance.
roses
Ashley Seeger in Dupont – went to her for premarriage counseling and she’s great.
Halloween Party
We’re throwing a Halloween party this weekend. The menu is already set, but would love some suggestions for how to Halloween-up the house without making too much of a mess, or spending too much money. We have a few pumpkins I plan to carve, plus some of those stretchy spider webs. There will be a handful of small ones running around, so I can put some candles up high on things, but not too many and none where the kids could knock them over or hurt themselves. Also, I want to make some goody bags for the kids, but figure they’ll be getting enough candy when they go trick or treating. Any suggestions for things to put in the bags that aren’t too expensive but aren’t candy (and maybe that could keep them entertained during the party?) They range in age from about 18 mo to 6 yrs old.
anon
Stickers! And some sort of Halloween craft – I bet a place like Michael’s has lots of options at this time of year. Some sort of make-your-own Halloween decoration? Or supplies to paint/decorate a mini pumpkin.
Halloween Party
Great idea. I’ll have to hit up a Michael’s between now and then.
just Karen
Beware of age with stickers – make sure they’re old enough NOT to put the stickers on your walls…but stickers used to decorate a small pumpkin could be genius! If you can find them, wikki stix are a great non-messy kid toy, and playdoh comes in tiny containers this time of year.
http://www.amazon.com/Wikki-Stix-Birthday-Party-Kit/dp/B001BC3MYM/ref=sr_1_15?s=toys-and-games&ie=UTF8&qid=1382630589&sr=1-15&keywords=wikki+stix
Ellen
Rosa is running a HALLOWEEN party for kid’s that are about that AGE also. I will ask her and get back to you if she has any idea’s for you! YAY!
I discovered this MORNING when I was packeing my Gym bag to go to the NYSC, that all of my SCHRUNCHIES are missing! There is NO WAY those could have got lost, and I have absoluteley NO idea what Igor or Oleg would do with a SCHRUNCHIE. First of all SCHRUNCHIES are way to small to use as SWEATBAND’S and Igor is BALD, so he can not even use it in case he had hair. Oleg has some hair, but NOT enough to use a SCHRUNCHIE. What would these men do with my SCHRUNCHIES anyway? This is getting wierder and wierder with them. Dad say’s they still are traveling in “the states” and will be comeing back thru NYC to take their plane back to BUDAPEST in November, so I will get to see them before they leave. I do NOT want to get anywhere near their duffle bag’s, which sureley will have more dirty clothe’s in them, but I BET that they will have my pantie’s and SCHRUNCHIES in there. But DAD says NOT to bring it up with them. WHY? Now I have to go out and buy all new SCHRUNCHIES, and they are NOT cheep, and NOW the manageing partner will NOT pay for them. FOOEY!
Baconpancakes
If it’s not cold where you live yet, and the parents/you are ok with an easy clean up but definitely having to clean up, silly string always goes over really well.
For decorating the house, try draping white sheets over all the upholstery. I had a Halloween party last weekend, and also hung ripped up cheese cloth from the ceiling in the hallway and over the windows, (fairly cheap and easy, but did require thumbtacks in the ceiling), draping cloth over CFL-bulb lights (no fire hazard if they don’t get hot), and filled apothecary jars with bits of greenery and dyed water on the bathroom shelves, and put candles behind them in the darkened room (might not be best for kids because they should probably pee with the light on), and my pièce de résistance was sticky tacking two hundred plastic spiders to the wall and scattering more across the carpet, looking as though they were crawling out the corner and up the wall. But I only followed through with that because by the time I realized how many hours it would take to do, I was invested and too stubborn to give up. Check out Martha Stewart for other ideas – that’s where I get most of my ideas.
Senior Attorney
If you dare venture down the rabbit hole, Pinterest has about a million fun Halloween decorating ideas.
EB
Glow sticks or other glow items for the older kids. My nieces and nephews LOVE anything that glows. In my city, Target has several different glow items in their bargain bins. I bought a 15 pack of glow bracelets for $1.
Halloween Party
Great idea! I know the six year olds would love those!
CKB
Those glow bracelets are so fun! I buy 4 or 5 of the 15 packs each year for fireworks nights, and we always make all kinds of chains that we spin on our fingers. It looks so cool! Dh always gets after me for being rowdier than the kids with the glow bracelets – lol.
Temporary tattoos are also a hit with the under 10 set, especially if you could ind glow in the dark ones!
Job hunting
I’m looking for a new job and am having some trouble communicating some of my softer skills. My current environment is chaotic, ineffecient, and poorly managed. Although it’s been pretty miserable, I’ve definitely learned a lot while I’ve been here that I think could be really valuable to another employer. I’ve learned to work with difficult personality types, to use diplomacy and strategy to get things done even while people are being obstructionist, and I’ve done a lot of managing behind the scenes. The manager is in over his head and often has trouble seeing the whole picture. I’ve earned his trust and often give him advice on how to staff projects to use people’s talents (and minimize their weaknesses), what questions he needs to answer to be able to make a decision, what’s going on with his staff that he should address (e.g., confusion, resentment), and I provide strategic thinking on what steps the office needs to take to move toward some of the bigger goals he’s set for it (with my guidance). The office has gone through a lot of turn-over, both at the staff level and at several levels of management. Each time, the tone and priorities of the office have shifted, and I’ve been able to shift with them, still turning out good product and keeping projects on track.
How can I present any of this to potential employers, both in terms of concrete examples, and without making it all about how awful my current workplace is?
roses
I’d bring it up when they ask why you’re leaving. As much as you can, focus on the objective facts of your current situation – e.g., high turnover, shifting priorities – and then talk about how you handled it, but then bring in that you are looking for a more stable environment where you can help the company grow, instead of just change horizontally.
paging hoola hoopa
I left you a comment on the thread from yesterday with the length of the Uniqlo cardigan, but in case you missed it–it’s 24 inches down the center of the back.
-Gail the Goldfish
hoola hoopa
Thanks!!
I really appreciate it. I have one that’s 23/24″ and I’m looking for something longer… for now. I’m pretty tempted to buy one anyway ;)
Paging Houston 'Rettes
Can anyone recommend a good cobbler? I have two pairs of Cole Haan pumps that I need to have rubber soles put on…and I don’t know where to turn!
asdfhtx
Bellaire Shoe Repair is excellent and affordable, though the shop smells strongly of chemical fumes. Houston Shoe Hospital on Bissonnet at Kirby is another good choice.
Paging Houston 'R e t t e s
Sorry for the double post, my comment is awaiting moderation.
Can anyone recommend a good cobbler? I have two pairs of Cole Haan pumps that I need to have rubber soles put on…and I don’t know where to turn!
Sunflower
Village Shoe Shop at 2507 Rice Blvd Houston, TX 77005. I’ve been going to them for years. They’re wonderful.
sweet as soda pop
I’ve had good luck with the Houston Shoe Hospital on Chimney Rock and Wertheimer. I do not recommend Arris, after a couple of bad customer service experiences.
preg anon
Funny – I’ve had a bad experience at that exact location. They were supposed to fix my well-worn TB flats, but I ended up having to toss them after they worked on them (and charged me $40!). They patched the leather with new pieces of leather that were a totally different color and just looked like they had been stuck on top of the shoe – which they had. Anyway, maybe it depends on who is helping you.
OP
See…I was going to go to Houston Shoe Hospital but then read some reviews online. Hence my post. Hmmm…
In the Pink
GH Shoes in Bellaire. It is right next to the Dunkin’ Donuts (sorry) at the light of Bellaire and Ferris where the Bank of Texas and the Post Office are located. They relocated there recently.
There is also the long-time cobbler just East on Bissonnet. It’s in that little space behind Randalls (Bissonnet and Rice) that was renovated. A gold/silver buyer and martial arts, and Mr C clock repair (yes!) are there. Used to be the Bellaire Bead Shop in that location.
Right across the street from that is the Bellaire BBQ place and in that strip center, I can’t say enough about SH Tailor. She’s been my seamstress for more years than I care to admit. Excellent work, eye, suggestions. She’s also made me custom things. I see her work with many, many bridal gowns and pageant gowns, but I have no need for gowns.
This concludes my little tour of little known places in Bellaire! :)
Jessica Glitter
My niece turns six this week, can anyone recommend some fun six year old girl gifts (they live in a different state, so needs to be shippable). Thanks!
Stephanie
Google Rainbow Loom. She is a little young for it but it is THE rage with the 8 year old set. It’s like little rubber bands you make into bracelets. I saw a first grader doing it last week so it should be fine.
anon
It’s the rage with 6 year olds too in NYC! Best present idea.
hoola hoopa
Fat Brain Toys does a good job of recommendations by gender/age: http://www.fatbraintoys.com/toys/toys_by_ages/girls/top_picks_6.cfm
Sun art kit
Chalk trail (depending on the weather of her locale)
Goldieblox
Color your own umbrella
Potholder loom
Shrinkydinks jewelry kit
bilibo
Spiral draw
Anon
My niece just turned five last week and two of her favorite gifts were shrinky-dinks and a lite bright.
The ’80s are officially back.
Flying Squirrel
My niece is turning six in a few weeks, and her new interests include American Girl and horseback riding. If you’re okay buying trendy things like AG, you could find out if she has a doll and buy her some accessories/outfits.
I also second the FatBrainToys idea. You can search toys by age group, and most are educational (in theory anyway).
And, at least for my niece, you can never go wrong with books of all types…fiction, non-fiction. Two years ago I gave her all kinds of books about the solar system and space, and she loved them (and was often correcting my sister on her science). Last year she was into compasses and adventure, so we got her a real compass and a couple books for children about using a compass and orienteering. She’s also started to get into chapter books (which is a really big deal for her)…some of the ones I remember from when I was a kid were Amelia Bedelia, Ramona (which she is reading), and the Rabbit Hill books.
Robin Sparkles
My nieces are this age and they love the crafty kit presents. They usually involve decorating or making something that they can use. Just check the ages to make sure you get one that’s appropriate. A big hit was the kit with the plastic beads that you arrange in the pattern and then a parent irons it so it all sticks together.
In the Pink
Absolutely crafts!
Also maybe some books? There’s that Pink and Purple series with fairies (of course), she could read up with adults with fairy tales, Ramona and Beezus series, Bobbsey Twins (vintage), Mrs. Piggle Wiggle.
I hear that the “Easy Bake Oven” is back.
+1 on Lite Brite.
Perhaps Spirograph jr. or a kit of mosaic tiles if she’s crafty.
Personalized stationary from American Stationary dot com or Studio House Stationary dot com.
A humongous set of artist’s colored pens, markers, pencils along with a basic “how to draw” book.
Kit of fashion paper dolls (usually a spiral with pages of body outlines) and stencils.
Legos! All kid friendly at this age.
Museum of Fine Art or Museum of Modern Art or Chicago Art Museum or Smithsonian kid stuff – build famous landmarks, reproduce famous paintings, sculptures, etc.
Origami paper, a properly sized “case/box” for the paper, and intro folding books.
stacks and stacks of colored paper and stickers
Lady Harriet
Klutz makes some amazing books with crafty kits and games. My brother and I got a ton of them as kids and we absolutely loved them.
CapHillAnon
Hopper ball–the big kind with handles. About $30 on amazon gets you the Italian-made version, which is basically indestructable. It is hands down the new favorite toy of the 5-year-old I know best, her big sister, and any of their friends that visit. (And, turns out, just for the record, it is strong enough for adults to take for a spin too.)
And yes to the rainbow loom!
Macatty
Threadjack for the lawyer3ttes out there… I have mediation on a real estate litigation file scheduled next week and am wondering what I should expect. I have never participated in mediation before and really don’t know much about how it works. This isn’t a case that lends itself well to mediation in the first place (it’s basically an all or nothing issue) and my clients aren’t willing to settle. If anyone has any words of advice for surviving my first mediation without embarrassing myself, I would really appreciate it!
Stephanie
I do employment law, so I’m not sure how similar it is, but here’s how it goes for us. We get there and the receptionist for the mediation firm put us in a room (lawyers and clients for our side). We stay in there and avoid the other side for the most part, except maybe counsel greet each other in the hallway or discuss some procedural thing. Mediator comes in at some point to say hello, talk to us about the case, and tell us that the other side is wacky, a bunch of loose cannons. I roll my eyes, but on the inside. The mediator tells us whether he wants to do a joint session with both parties and their counsel. If he does, it will be just a few minutes, where the mediator first tells the parties how awesome mediation is, and then each side says a little about their position. Then everyone goes back to their separate rooms, and the mediator starts shuttling between the rooms to discuss facts and eventually numbers. At some point in the day, somebody either walks out or threatens to. Sometimes we settle, which then means the mediator will help write up a short form agreement that everyone signs and then we agree to do a long form agreement the next day. Or sometimes we actually get a long form done that day. More often, everyone leaves and we settle a week or two later, with some additional help from the mediator.
Nonny
I love this description and find it hilarious because although I don’t do mediation, it describes almost exactly how the last bits and pieces of M&A negotiations typically go. Fantastic.
Macatty
This is very helpful, thanks!
Relationship Q for the Hive
I’m wondering if anyone else has experienced this sort of relationship dynamic, and how it played out for you? I am very career ambitious – always looking ahead, always planning, willing to work hard and take risks. SO has a passion which is an art. He works on his in private, on his own time. To pay the bills, he has a joe job. He’s not sure whether he will ever care about whatever joe job he has. Its clear that his goals only exist for the art. He isn’t interested in merging the job & the art. We’re in totally different fields and while I intellectually understand his life/work orientation it’s just a little out of the left side of my body. Has anyone else experienced a relationship like this? How to support SO, how to balance needs and goals? I make about 2x what he makes, but frankly kind of like that (at least for now, DINK)
caro
No suggestions, but I’m in a similar situation, so I’m curious for others’ insights.
Killer Kitten Heels
Shift your focus. Start thinking (to yourself, at least) of the art as his “career” – it sounds to me like you’re stuck on his “joe job” being his “career”, and not really sure what to make of that, but really he’s not different than anyone else with a job and a hobby, he’s just flipped which one’s the “job” and which one’s the “hobby.” Support his art the exact same way you’d support a partner’s more traditional career.
Think hard about the financial stuff – it’s fun to be a DINK, but do you want kids? What are your expectations for what that would look like? Is whatever you think you want to have happen likely to happen with this particular guy (i.e., you always figured you’d go part-time at work or be a SAHM)? Even if you’re not planning on kids, what are your financial expectations for the future? Are you going to be able to meet those goals with this guy? And more importantly, if you *can’t* meet those financial goals with this guy, are you going to be able to compromise on your planned-out financial future WITHOUT holding a grudge against him for not “pulling his weight?” What happens if/when your finances merge? Are you going to be able to feel okay about subsidizing his lifestyle and/or scaling back your own lifestyle to fit within his more-limited means?
Relationship Q for the Hive
Thanks for this! You are so right and this is a major paradigm shift for me.
Cynthia
Replace art with video games and you have my hubby, and except I make 6x more than he does. His money is just for his hobby and bills.
I don’t see an issue with not combining the two unless it’s affecting finances. A hobby is a hobby, and once you start making money, it’s now another job.
Fiona
I need some advice on what to do about not being recognized for my work on a project. I did ALL the legwork, and my supervisor, who did nothing more than give feedback on various drafts, is taking all the credit. I want to say something to the top manager (that would be the person who supervises my supervisor), because when this thing rolls out it’s going to be HUGE for the company and IMO I deserve due credit, but I don’t know how to approach it without sounding whiny.
another Kat
Dry clean only : when do you follow the tag instructions and when do you hand wash/wash cold? I have a pair of tahari pants that I would rather not dry clean.
Lady Harriet
Usually unless it’s something wool or a lined, tailored piece I will hand or machine wash. I get all my clothes secondhand, so I’m not worried about losing a big investment if something gets wrecked, but it also means that I can’t easily replace things because they’re not sill in stores. I will definitely wash knits and anything silk, cotton, or linen. I generally try to avoid dry cleaning at all costs!
another Kat
Any special tricks for washing? Lingerie bag/cold water/woolite vs detergent, hang drying vs drying flat etc? I got the pants at TjMaxx but I still don’t want to ruin them.
Pink
I accidently washed a tropical wool suiting blend lined AT skirt with my woolens and silk in the front loading delicate cycle this weekend. I airdryed it and steamed it (to release any wrinkles) and it looks fine and got rid of the salad dressing stain!
I am too lazy to buy woolite so I just use less of my regular detergenet. I hang dry, and for your pants, you might want to hang by the hem, and let the weight of the waist/butt end straighten it while drying.
Parfait
I believe there’s a difference between “Dry Clean” and “Dry Clean Only,” and you should obey the latter and risk it with the former.