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Anon for this
I am relatively new to a job (about a year) and I recently spent the night/hooked up with a coworker. I see this coworker frequently and we talk daily. It hasn’t been awkward when we see each other or talk but I still find myself cringing whenever I remember it. How do I get over this? How do I make sure none of our coworkers find out (very small company).
Anonymous
Are you both single? If so, you e done nothing wrong.
Anon
This is my advice, and others may disagree. I would think of it as something that happened between 2 consenting adults. It’s not ideal, but s#x isn’t inherently shameful. And I would not bring it up but instead just resume normal conversation/interaction (which it sounds like you have done). You’re an adult, you had s#x. Yes, you probably shouldn’t have done it with a co-worker, but you did, and you can’t take it back. You are an adult, and you had s#x. You shouldn’t feel ashamed. I would just move on.
FWIW – I have had friends who have done this. And they’ve taken an approach similar to above, and it has been fine. The co-workers have been respectful, they have been respectful and as time has passed, nobody really thinks about it any more.
Anonymous
Are you a troll? Get a new job is the answer.
K
Sounds more like you’re the troll…
Anon
Hahaha wut
anon
You just move on. Neither of you did anything wrong. It happens. With time, it’ll fade. Just be normal, respectful, and friendly. I’ve been there and really it wasn’t an issue at all. If you feel the need to make sure he doesn’t say anything, just have a casual conversation that emphasizes it’s important to you that you both keep it to yourselves, for the sake of both your peace of mind at work. The phrase ‘mutually assured destruction’ comes to mind, because it’s not a good look for him either. (Again, not that you did anything wrong, but we all know that it’s never fun when coworkers know our personal business and it can get misconstrued)
You don’t need to get a new job.
Anonymous
I think once is a slip, two different guys = documenting questionable judgment.
Anonymous
Agreed. Once is fine, but twice and you’re the office s!ut. (Not saying it’s fair, but it’s true).
Spine
This is the logic of childishness. And using gossip about non-work activity to harm someone. Stop it.
Anon
I’m surprised nobody jumped on this. I find this a very weird and $lut-shaming comment.
Anon
Maybe. But I’m not the Anon at 10:12, and I apply this standard to both men and women. If they date/hook up once with a co-worker, I don’t give it much though. If it is a pattern, I start to view them differently. In my experience, it is men who have this pattern and are also often dating/hooking up with significantly younger women at work.
Anonymous
It’s that same dull troll again. If they’re going to troll they should at least be entertaining.
anon
Ehhhh I kinda agree. Not because its s1utty to hook up with multiple guys, multiple guys who know each other, or anything like that, but the reality is that work place “romances” do have the potential to have negative effects on job performance. Whether it’s an HR concern or violates a policy, or whether it just has the potential to create tension in working relationships, it is unfair to the company to allow your personal business to spill into work. Obviously that doesn’t happen with every work place fling/romance, whatever, but it can. It takes serious maturity, good judgment, and discretion to pull off a successful work place relationship/hook up and deal with the aftermath. You want to avoid doing anything that might signal that you are not exercising maturity, good judgment, and discretion, or that you are okay with creating difficult situations at work. Hooking up with more than one colleague can have riskier consequences (like, for example, they find out about each other and are jealous), and also suggests that maybe you’re not taking it seriously. I feel like people think about it this way- it’s understandable to have that one colleague you’ve always felt a connection with, you are attracted, you’ve grown close at work, and one day you either succumb to the moment like humans do, or you decide to seriously give it a chance despite the potential for bad consequences. But if you are doing this with multiple people, that benefit of the doubt kinda goes away.
Again, know your work place (…I guess…)
JuniorMinion
This is a bit strange of an attitude to me. An overwhelming number of people I know have met their spouse at work. Like more people I know have met their spouse at work than through any other mechanism (although bumble / tinder et al may be slowly taking the lead). I probably have a bit different perspective on workplace relationships with the caveat that no one is in a subordinate / boss relationship and things don’t interfere with work
Anonymous
Why are you cringing? Just because you work together? Plenty of people meet at work, you just may want to find another job (or he might) if you date and things go sideways.
Ellen
I am late again, but need to comment. My dad told me NEVER to have s-x with people you work with and I have followed that advice. In the OP’s case, she understands it was awkward, and will probably not do it again (not a bad idea). She should remain freinds with him and that’s it. As others have said, it is not a good idea to repeat this with another, ESPECIALY since she works in a small company, and everyone would know very quickly — this may still happen. In my firm, my associate Mason had s-x with Lynn on the conference room table, and we fired him, but mainly b/c he was useless and never passed the bar. I think that as long as the OP is only freindly with her co-workers, she should be fine. There are so many men out there just waiting for a woman willing to have s-x that she should have no problem finding someone OUTSIDE of work, if she wants that. Personaly, I would be carful b/f engaging in any kind of fluid shareing activity with any man these days, as most are untrustworthy. FOOEY!
Walnut
I’ve worked for a company where plenty of people meet on the job and eventually end up married. In many instances, both continue to work for the company. It’s really not a huge deal. While few work in the same reporting chain, in a highly collaborative environment they often become involved with or support the same projects.
Keep your office life professional, and should you decide to take this further, it would make sense for one person to lateral to a different reporting structure. No need to cross those bridges until you need to.
Work Bag Advice
I’m buying myself a nice new work tote for my birthday, and I’m looking for suggestions. Right now, top contenders are Dagne Dover (either the Legend/Classic or the Allyn, which looks roomier) or Cuyana’s structured tote with the insert.
I am an attorney who carries a lot of paperwork, a laptop, shoe changes, lunch, etc, and I’m looking for something that can help me streamline without adding too much bulk.
Anyone have thoughts/feedback on any of the bags above or other suggestions of nice looking workhorse bags?
Veronica Mars
I love the Dange Dover totes you picked! They’ll be going on my wishlist. One thing I’d be a little concerned about would be the weight on those bags, both are over 2 lbs. I have the Love41 Leather Pocket tote which I love, but it’s probably too rustic for your style. Also, I use mine as a handbag and it’s 2.5lbs, and after just filling it up with my cosmetics, wallet, water bottle, etc, it starts to get heavy. If you’re really going to load it up for work, you may look into a nylon bag (like MZWallace or the L0 & Sons), or something that’s a lighter starting point.
Anonymous
I have the Cuyana structured tote with insert. It is very heavy. I sometimes put one thin file folder, a notebook, a Surface laptop, an umbrella, and a water bottle in with my wallet, phone, and cosmetic bag, and that fills it up. I would not use it for shoes, lunch, or large volumes of papers.
Anonymous
I found the Dagne Dover really heavy. I LOVE my Brahmin totes, they look luxe but are lightweight.
Anon
+1. I have the Dagne Dover and LOVE it, but yes it’s heavy. When it’s loaded with laptop and paperwork and such, it’s even heavier. I commute via car so it doesn’t bother me, but I wouldn’t use it if I had to walk any farther than our garage to my office.
Miss
Agree. I’m also an attorney and had to return my dagne Dover tote. While I loved a lot about it, even carrying it short distances hurt my shoulder when I had multiple case files and/or a laptop. I bought a Lodis bag instead and like it better.
Anon
I have the Cuyana structured tote, no insert. It could fit everything you mention without the insert. I often carry the items you mention. It will be heavy with all that in it, but any bag would be – that’s a lot of stuff!
Scarlett
I use the Cuyana zip tote with the insert – it’s heavy ish with the insert but lighter than anything else I’ve carried. The structured tote is really heavy, that my dress up bag, but it’s too heavy for daily use.
Scarlett
Amended, I just went on their website, I have my names wrong, I use the classic zipper tote every day with the insert (I think it’s pretty light but I’m not a camel type though, I don’t take a ton of stuff with me to and from work, I leave most things there), the work satchel is their really heavy bag that looks nice, but doesn’t fit much even by my trimmed down standards.
Anon
Yes I have the structured tote and it’s about the same weight as the zippered tote.
I kind of lust after the work satchel so thanks for the heads up on that.
Anonymous
I have the Dagne Classic tote (15″ size) and it is MASSIVE. and heavy. I needed that size for my work computer which is slightly too big for the 13″ but woof.
I also have a cuyana unstructured with Cuyana insert, which can be heavy as well and does not fit as much as the dagne. I don’t love the water bottle holder in the insert either, it doesn’t fit most of the ones I use.
I regularly end up carrying laptop, some files, water, change of shoes, etc in both of these bags and it all fits but… it feels like a lot. I don’t think there’s any way around it being heavy. I have a Lo & Sons OMG I use when I travel but it doesn’t feel like an around the office bag to me unfortunately because at least it’s light!
FWIW, I want the Allyn next – I buy a bag to celebrate a new job (which has only happened twice) and I just got promoted at my current one, so I figure that counts!
And with an external snap/zip pocket?
I’m looking for one with an external snap/zip pocket for my phone. Any recommendations on that? Bonus if it zips shut.
Current tote is an Anne Klein from Macy’s but I’ve worn out the handles. I realize I’ll have to spend some more $ but am not quite in Dagne Dover Allyn range. Was hoping to keep it under $200.
Thanks for any advice!
Velma
Sadly, this blouse is out of stock (final link) except in petite sizes. Too bad–it’s pretty. I also like some of the ruffle utility options.
Anonymous
This is so pretty. And also … out of stock. In case it becomes available again, has anyone tried this on and can you speak to whether it is sheer or not?
TheElms
The pullover version is also only available in XXL. In case anyone is interested.
Anonymous
I can see the blue of her pants through the bottom of the shirt, so it looks at least very slightly sheer.
Anon
I tried it on and returned it because it was so sheer, and a camisole underneath ruined the look on me. Such a shame because it was super cute, and I’m still searching for a cute non-button-down bus casual white top for work.
Gail the Goldfish
I got this from Ann Taylor recently and it’s opaque enough with a nude for me bra that it works: https://www.anntaylor.com/pearlized-inset-blouse/477214?skuId=25867367&defaultColor=9192&catid=cata000010
AK
Love this!
Thanks!
I’ve virtual window shopped the Maggy London site, but it’s out of my budget and I didn’t know London Times existed. So thanks for the tip yesterday, Rainbow Hair!
Rainbow Hair
Ooh delighted I helped!
Daily Sunscreen
Yesterday’s discussion of health has motivated me to get better about using sunscreen on a daily basis, not just when I’m spending a day outside. Currently my facial moisturizer has spf, but I assume that is not enough. Any recommendations for a sunscreen that I can put on before my makeup in the morning and to put on over my makeup at the end of the day before I walk home? Ideally something relatively cheap that I can get at a drugstore.
Anonymous
Neutrogena Ultra Sheer Dry Touch is my go to for this.
Pushing 45, regularly mistaken for 30s
My facialist says that spf should not be in your moisturizer because they serve two different functions. I use First Aid Beauty Intense Moisturizing Cream and then a tinted, zinc-based sunscreen as my foundation. I liked Clinique Pep Start, Amore Pacific, and Drunk Elephant.
Pushing 50, still getting carded
I have been using whatever Neutrogena light-retinol-moisture-SPF stuff is in a TSA-sized bottle that has sunscreen in it daily for face + neck since my mid-20s. I work in an office but am out in the mornings and lunchtime walking and in the late afternoon/evening.
For weekends, I use the Neutrogena in a high SPF (non-moisturizer non-retinol).
At the beach, 100% high spf zinc oxide and liberal use of rashguards/hats/big sunnies.
Anonymous
I like CeraVe.
anon.
This isn’t cheap get-at-the-drugstore cheap but I can’t recommend Elta MD enough. My derm recommended it to me and it’s made putting on sunscreen easy enough that I do it every day. I’m VERY sensitive to smelly things (like I hate them), so it’s ok for me to pay a little extra for it. Sometimes Costco sells it very inexpensively!
E
Biore watery essence from Amazon – doesn’t feel like sunscreen at all.
Anon
I like the dr. Jart cicapair tiger cream spf 30 in the jar. It’s meant for people who battle redness. It goes on green but oxidizes to not-green and because it is a relatively thick cream and all mineral sunscreen, it would be hard not to apply enough. Not applying enough is a common problem with most liquid/lotion sunscreens.
Anonymous
Public service announcement from an old: Don’t forget to sunscreen your neck and chest area too. I wish I had know this.
Senior Attorney
And your hands. Don’t be me and end up with a bunch of brown spots on your hands that have to be lasered off. Ouch ouch ouch!!
Lilly
This. This. This. I’m 54 and my hands are spotted and crepey like someone 20-30 years older. I think most of my hands’ sun exposure probably occurrred while driving. If you drive a car frequently, keep sunscreen in the console and use it when you get it. I wish I had.
Senior Attorney
Lilly, the laser was very owie but the whole process was over in two weeks and both my husband and I are very happy with the results. Might be something to look into!
Anonymous
Canmake UV Mermaid Gel (amazon)
Anon
Just want to point out the results of the recent meta study regarding vit D supplements. They did not help with bone density in the general population (there are likely specific populations who really are helped by Vit D but the readers here are unlikely to fall into this category). Due to lowered bone density, the chances of breaking a bone into your 80’s, for women, is 50%. The chances of getting melanoma is 3%. Now the risk of dying from melanoma is much higher than dying from a fracture but the prevention of osteoporosis is still going to give you a better survival rate. All I am saying is that for centuries we have seen that going extreme in one direction or another is usually bad for us. So maybe take the “sunscreen, always” dogma with a grain of salt.
everlane city anorak
Does anyone here have this jacket and can you speak to weight/ waterproof-ness/ style/ etc? Thanks!
CHL
I just got it and sent it back because it just didn’t fit my shoulders right. nice weight and quality. ran HUGE.
Cystic Acne
I almost never get this but I have one just to the left of the center of my bre@st where that bre@st begins. It’s been almost a week and it’s still super red/painful. I normally wouldn’t care about just waiting it out, but I’ve been seeing someone for a bit now and I’m worried that we’ll approach the first time for some physical stuff and it’ll still be big and gross and either make me way self-conscious or it’ll make me slow down that process even though I’ve been wanting to get to that place for a while, neither of which feel like good options.
I know celebs get a cortisone shot to make them disappear fast but what can those without that budget do? Without health insurance, I’m guessing that a derm appt and a shot would be hundreds and hundreds.
anon
I’d just put a band-aid over it.
Anonymous
The Bye Bye Blemish drying lotion (from Amazon) works pretty well for me when I get cystic acne. It stinks, and flakes off, so just use it at night or when you’ll be in the house for awhile.
Anon
What about seeing a physician for a prescription for antibiotics (maybe minicycline?). A couple of days with those on board sometimes helps me.
Anon
Out of pocket, something like this at my derm would be around $100 for the doctor’s visit and about $75 for the shot. So not absurd considering but definitely too much for a case of one b@@b cyst. Honestly, I’d just put some concealer around the edges to dampen the redness. I doubt he’ll even notice. In the moment, that is the LEAST of what he will be thinking about. Unless it’s infected, conceal and don’t worry.
Elegant Giraffe
+1, new partner won’t notice.
Anon
Are you sure you don’t have a breast abscess?
Anon
https://www.merckmanuals.com/home/skin-disorders/bacterial-skin-infections/folliculitis-and-skin-abscesses
I mention this because I had one that I also mistook for an ordinary cyst.
givemyregards
Assuming it is actually a pimple and not something else – try putting a colloidal band-aid on it to help drain? That’s what I do to speed up the healing process for cystic acne and since this isn’t on your face you could just use one from a $3-5 pack at the grocery store.
anne-on
The de la cruz sulfur ointment for as long as you can (at least 30 minutes) then a pimple patch on top to suck up the goo should take care of it within a day or two. Both are on amazon, or if you’re in a big city pimple patches are in Sephora/Urban outfitters, and the de la cruz stuff is at my CVS and maybe target?
BabyAssociate
I have gotten a Kenalog shot at the dermatologist for cystic acne and it was covered by insurance, so I wouldn’t necessarily assume it wouldn’t be.
TheElms
A hydrocolloid bandaid (like what you would put on a heal blister might help draw some of the liquid out and make it less sore/red). Put it on before bed and leave it overnight.
Parfait
lance it first for best results.
Rec
I think I got the rec on here, but I use patches bought on Amazon – you wear them overnight and they are magic and pull out all the gross gunk and help cystic acne unswell quickly.
The product I buy is: Acne Care Pimple Patch Absorbing Cover With Tea Tree & Calendula Oil
Anonymous
Husband and I are considering a 2 week trip that includes a couple of nights in Cairo. Anyone recently traveled to Egypt? Would folks be comfortable traveling to Egypt? We aren’t planning to use a tour guide, but husband tells me that some of the higher end hotels (Four Seasons, for example) will drive/escort you to places throughout the city. I am a little hesitant and looking for other people’s thoughts/experiences. Thanks!
BabyAssociate
I haven’t been, but absolutely would go. Do it!
Elly
Never been to Egypt but Four Seasons is my corporate hotel and I occasionally get a free airport pick-up/ drop-off as a frequent guest in Asia and Europe, but I would fully expect to be billed for a car and driver if sight-seeing. An independent local guide and driver would almost certainly work out cheaper (look for reviews on somewhere like TripAdvisor if you have safety/ reliability concerns).
Egypt
I haven’t been in the current political climate, so can’t weigh in on safety, but it’s a fabulous place to visit. I stayed at a big nice hotel (forget which) on Zamalek (an affluent district with lots of embassies on an island in the middle of the Nile). That neighborhood felt safe because of all of the embassy guards.
Assuming you don’t speak Arabic, you will likely want to use a driver hired through your hotel. It’s affordable, and it will make it easier to get around.
If you go, check out Sequoia, my favorite restaurant in the world (literally).
It’s a beautiful city – good luck!
Anonymous
i think its the sofitel!
Anon
I have a question about life insurance. The policies offered through my work and my husband’s work are pretty paltry and I’d like to get our own policy, especially since we might have kids in a few years. However, I have a few chronic autoimmune conditions that don’t cause me really any pain or disability day-to-day, but that are in my record and that could theoretically flare up. My husband has high cholesterol and is 20-30 pounds overweight. We both have one parent who died young (one from sudden cardiac death in 30s, one from cancer in late 50s). I participate in at least two high-risk hobbies. Are we even going to be able to get life insurance at all? Can anyone else with chronic conditions or sketchy family history who has gotten life insurance speak to the process and the approximate amount you’ve had to pay for a term policy?
Also, if you have life insurance through work and a policy you’ve purchased on your own, would they both pay out in the event of a death?
Anonymous
It could depend on the autoimmune conditions. For instance, MS wasn’t insurable in our experience.
anon
You may not qualify. I did Selectquote to supplement my work policies. It worked out fine for me, but my husband–who by all appearances is a healthy early 30s guy who never needs to go to the doctor–had such high cholesterol that he was considered uninsurable. He is now on Lipitor and we will try again when his numbers stabilize a bit. I’m not sure this would work, but you might want to try to get a moderate amount of extra insurance. I believe that AAA and Costco each offer up to $250,000 in coverage without a medical exam.
Anonymous
1. disclose everything (incl other policies); then they will pay out
2. husbands family has bad risk factors; he got private insurance but it costs much more than mine for a shorter-locked-in window (20 him vs 30 me)
You might consider about dropping your high risk hobby (the main one is non-commercial aviation; not sure re others).
Annie
I would speak with an insurance broker and ask them those questions.
anon a mouse
Any policies you have will pay out – if you have a private policy it won’t trump the work policy.
Your best bet is to just start getting quotes. You could contact a company rep or use a site like policygenius. Your husband’s stats are okay — so many people are overweight that it might bump him down from the top category but he is still insurable. For you, it will depend on the exact nature of your condition.
Anon
Yes. Just get quotes. See what happens.
I got my larger term life insurance policies when my kids were newborns. I was overweight and had in my medical records a breast cancer scare which turned out to be a benign lump, but was still insured in the top tier. I had many people tell me that both things would get me disqualified but it wasn’t the case.
Having really good life insurance has given me so much peace of mind about how my kids would fare if something happened to me, it has been money well spent.
Anon
+1 I didn’t know to get the quote before I got pregnant for the weight issue alone, so I was classified as overweight because I was one month post partum (insurance companies are d*cks), and also got dinged for having a recent hospital stay (you know, to birth all that extra weight). I was still rated in the top tier.
Anon
Our cheapest option was to buy supplemental coverage through work. It didn’t require additional vetting and was tacked on to the work policy.
Anon
The problem with this approach is that you’re wedded to your work. These things are usually not portable if you change employers, or if they are portable, the surcharge to take it private is ridiculous.
I’ve been there personally. I really recommend the private route, term insurance.
Anony
One option worth exploring – I have an autoimmune condition and am about 15 pounds overweight, and I was able to get a reasonably priced term life policy through a group plan for my undergrad alumni association. I fell into their highest-price category, and it was MUCH less than the quotes I got through a broker.
LawDawg
It may be hard to get insurance, but it will only get harder and more expensive as time goes on.
Anon
Thanks all – this is helpful. I’m going to try to get some quotes.
Goodwill stores in DC area
I’m in the process of losing weight, and need to get some new clothing. Since I still have a significant amount to lose, I’m hoping to get stuff for my in-between sizes from Goodwill or other used clothing stores to save money and I know the quality of their stock really varies by store. Does anyone know a good Goodwill to check out in the DC area?
S
If you don’t find one swap.com is an online goodwill. I only buy “good condition” or better and have been happy with the quality for the price (prices are much lower than thread up or poshmark in my experience).
Anonymous
+1. The inventory in basics like pencil skirts, trousers, etc is pretty deep. You can filter by fiber – e.g. look for wool – and brand to help weed out better quality stuff. The photos aren’t great, so you are taking some chances, but the prices are low enough that it works for me.
E
The Goodwill in Bethesda is amazing. Super high end stuff there but hard to get there without a car (best public transit option is to uber from White Flint).
Anon
I don’t see a store in Bethesda. Do you mean the Rockville location on ling Brook Parkway? If not, where it is?
E
Yes that’s the one – I don’t spend a lot of time up there so don’t know where Rockville ends and Bethesda begins. It looks like there’s also a Unique up in that direction if you want to make a day of it.
Near DC thrifts
If you can get out to Arlington, try Finders Keepers — 5906 Washington Blvd. (This isn’t metro accessible.)
There’s a huge thrift store called Unique on Gallows Road in Merrifield, very near the Mosaic. 2956 Gallows Rd, Falls Church, VA. Again, not metro accessible.
King Street in Old Town has two good thrift stores: Look Again Resale (900 King), and Twig Thrift Shop (106 N. Columbus). Look Again has a very small selection of clothes in the upper level. Twig has a large selection of ladies clothes and a lot suitable for work. You can get to those using Metro to King Street and then taking the free trolley.
I’ve found some nice work clothes at the Current Boutique (4 locations in DC [14th Street], Clarendon, Old Town, and Bethesda). All are metro accessible. These are consignment stores, though, so you’ll pay $35 for a skirt or a sweater — not $5.
Anonymous
There’s a big value village/unique up New Hampshire Ave maybe 15 min from the DC line.
Anon
I need a cross-body tote for commuting that also converts into a backpack. I prefer sporty/functional to a fashion-focused style. Any ideas?
anon.
I recommend the Rough & Tumble convertible hobo for this. It is cross-body and converts to a backpack in seconds. I wasn’t sure I’d use that convertible function, but I do – all the time. It’s definitely slouchy though, which I know lots of people on this board don’t like. I have and love the large sized one.
Anonymous
I have a large hobo in saddle from R&T – it is my favorite bag in the world. You can fit a ton in it and the backpack option (that i thought i would never use) is great fro going through fairs and stuff where you want your arms free but you have too much in it to be comfortable with the cross body.
Great product – love that they’re handmade in Maine.
Anonymous
I’ve been searching for something similar. I’m eyeing one from Gap (“Convertible Backpack”) but also feeling tempted by a Tumi bag (“Tumi Voyager Jena Convertible School Backpack”), but $$$$$.
Anonymous
They sell a nice leather one at neimans
Anonymous
I just got the Lole Lily tote on sale and love it!
Anon
That looks like a nice bag, but does it have a cross-body strap? That’s key for me.
Tom Bihn
Tom Bihn – The Stowaway
Susan
I just bought an Andi (the small) bag for weekend/errand running and I like the possibilities.
https://theandibrand.com/
It can convert into a crossbody, a backpack and has a strap to slip over your luggage handle. I use it as a tote. It’s fabric, so casual, but lots of pockets and super lightweight. Worth a look.
Anonymous
I’m running for local office and today is the Chamber of Commerce’s candidate forum. Please send positive vibes and any last minute tips. Heading to the gym now to run off as many of the nerves as possible.
Cookbooks
Sending good vibes your way! Good luck!
Candidate
You got this! You are smart, passionate, and you stepped up for your community!
Two tips: one, if you don’t know something, admit it and say how you would learn enough to make an informed decision. I’ve found my constituents value honesty, humility, and consensus-building more than bluster or bravado. And two, it’s okay to stop and take a breath, or a sip of water, and collect yourself while you think about an answer. People came to hear you speak, they will wait a few seconds while you breathe. You don’t need to start speaking instantly and continuously (one of my flaws – I talk fast when I get nervous).
Senior Attorney
You definitely got this!! Rawr!!
singing the praises -- OG bag
I’ve had an OG for 5ish years. I thought it would be life-changing, but then I felt a little meh on it out of the box.
I’ve had to lug home a computer and about a ream of paper each night (small kids — school closes randomly and/or they get sick, so I need to bring home my regular nightwork + overflow work in case I’m home unexpectedly for a day or two). And lately I’ve also been travelling a bunch (so all of the above + plane snacks + fleece).
The dome shape, which I didn’t love at first, is great for the fleece / large wrap / knitting project. The bag can take abuse (I have not babied it and I shove it under plane seats all the time). I am so pleased with this bag.
I also have the Seville, which I think is a sharper bag (and it sits up and it doesn’t have the round top), but when I need something larger than I can abuse, I reach for the OG every time.
[I hate to sound like my mom, but I’m contemplating buying another in their black Friday sale in case mine ever meets its demise. I am always on the lookout for its eventual replacement and nothing seems better than this.]
anon
Thanks for this. I’ve been debating between the OG and OMG and still haven’t decided!
Anonymous
I’m 5-4 and have the OG. I am a hoarder when I travel after losing my bags too many time and having unreliable access to a printer. I’ve never regretted the larger size.
FWIW, I have a pretty big (but lightweight) laptop and it slides in perfectly.
I also have the 15″ Seville, but the OG is such a workhorse for me when I travel.
BabyAssociate
I have the 15″ Seville too and really like it. I got an OG and returned it immediately. I just couldn’t shake that it looked like a diaper bag.
Anon
Same. Mine went to goodwill.
Love the OG
I would like to buy another OG, as mine is falling apart after 7 years of abuse. When does Lo & Sons have the best sale? Is black Friday the biggest discount all year?
RR
I would second all this for the OG. For work travel, there is nothing better. That thing fits everything. I’ve had mine for 5+ years I think, and it’s still going strong.
Anonymous
I got an OG for Christmas and I looooove it. I will buy another one when this one wears out (if it does; it’s proven to be pretty bulletproof). It is a lifesaver when I have to make out-and-back day plane trips for work.
Anonymous
A student’s resume was passed to me by a colleague. The student is looking for internships in my field, Y. Thing is, student is enrolled in Major X and Scholarship X…but he doesn’t want an internship that has anything to do with X because “that’s what I have to do all the time and I want to do something different.” The scholarship was tied to the major, and I got the impression the only reason he’s involved in this major is to pay for school. Hey, that’s a choice we all make. But student’s resume is entirely tailored toward X and makes no mention of Y that he’s actually interested in. And from speaking with him, I don’t know that he’s qualified in Y in any way – no clubs, no coursework, no part-time job.
He’s an undergrad junior. How direct should I be with him about this mismatch? I don’t know him other than a 15 minute phone conversation. I want him to get the message, but I don’t want to be the Negative Nancy who shot down his dreams.
Anonymous
How’s he supposed to get experience if you can’t even fathom talking to him about an internship? How much experience does he need?
Anonymous
This. For goodness sake do you know how expensive college is?! Good for him for getting a scholarship in a major he’s willing to do. That doesn’t mean he should be sentenced to that career for life. Help him get experience now so he doesn’t get stuck.
Anon
You’d be doing him a kindness to be as direct as possible. It may feel awkward to you but it is in his best interest in the long run. He needs to know what a potential employer thinks of his not-too-smart approach and hearing it directly from you is far better than just never hearing back from places.
Anon
This – he might not have someone in his life to tell him otherwise. This approach can hurt his chances in the long run – better to know this while internship hunting as opposed to fulltime job hunting!
Anonymous
I think you can ask about why/how are you interested in Y.
Regarding no experience- that’s the whole point of internships is to help figure out what you want to do with your career. Most juniors still don’t know. It’s okay for them to be changing their minds. Look at the positives- he’s managed to get and keep a scholarship which seems pretty responsible. And, he’s working his network to branch out and find what he really wants to do. Pre-judging him seems a little harsh here.
Anonymous
+1.
anon
Agree. I don’t think it is fair to expect a college junior to have experience, unless this is a technical internship and he’s not technical at all or wants to write when he’s only been studying math.
But this student does need to think about what he wants to do in the longer term. Does he want a career in X or Y?
Anonymous
It would be a kindness to him to have a discussion, ask some questions. If anything, it will let him better tailor his pitch for the next place he tries.
College juniors aren’t psychic, and they’ve probably grown up being told “you can be anything you want to be” with zero guidance as to needed steps to take.
He may need to have his X resume and his Y resume (like one that would note something like 10 credits in Y coursework, Y-interest club, etc. while dialing down the X-ness).
Anonymous
If he’d explained his interest as “I want to be more well-rounded,” would you feel differently? He may just be a novice work-world communicator.
Anonymous
I don’t think it’s as simple as “he majored in X and wants to do Y” – are there skills in X that are transferable to Y? Of course, he should be explaining to you how his current skills will transfer to your field, but I don’t think you should write him off just because he hasn’t done clubs or extracurricular in Y. Fwiw, I majored in science and then went to law school and now have a job that has nothing to do with science or law – but my quantitative and analytical reasoning skills have been very applicable to this job.
Anon
So I have a coach mindset and spend too much time on this stuff than I should, but I was that college junior with no idea how the professional world works. (First gen college student, parents were blue collar in a rural town.)
I would say something like “If you’re open to it, I’d love to give you coaching on your resume. As it is right now, I’m not getting any sense of your experience or interest in Y, and I feel other potential employers would have the same reservations. Do you want to set up 15 minutes where we can talk through some ideas on how to tailor to resume to the Y field? And if you don’t have the experience yet, I’ve got some ideas on what you can do over the next year.”
anon
+1. What a gentle way to deliver this feedback!
anon
Maybe he wants to branch out? It’s not like his wanting to branch out is enough of a reason for you to give him an internship, but where is it written that we can never branch out, especially when we’re in college? If it appears that he doesn’t understand how different x and y are, that’s another story.
Doesn’t really seem like you’re in a position for giving him any advice considering how little you know about him, his interests, etc. Save that for his career counselor. This just really isn’t your place.
Anon
In a prefect world where every school has good career counselors, that may be ok. But, in my experience, most schools provide very little career counseling. You would be doing him a real service to have the 15 minute discussion with him
Walnut
Eh, I just hired a physics major for a role not at all related to physics. Does this kid have or indicate any soft skills that translate well to your field? Frankly, for most internships, all I’m looking for is someone who will show up on time and work hard.
Katie
Do you have any suggestions for a body lotion for dry, sensitive skin? I prefer cruelty-free but am not having great luck with the brands I have tried. My old drugstore favorite was Cruel. Thanks.
Anon
Cetaphil Body Dry Sensitive Skin Moisturizing Cream. Cetaphil products aren’t tested on animals.
If you want to go the really natural route, my skin has been responding really well to a body oil right out of the shower (basically while still damp, not really wet – helps trap in moisture). I don’t buy a body oil but use a selfmade mixture of jojoba oil, almond oil, Moroccan oil, and a couple capsules of Vitamin E with a few drops of some lemongrass essential oil for scent.
Anon
I love the CeraVe lotion in the big jar. I use it every day.
Anon
Have you tried SheaMoisture’s Raw Shea Butter Body lotion? It is shea and cocoa butter based, so very natural and very moisturizing. The smell is fairly strong, but I love the smell so ymmv.
Anonymous
I like Body Shop Shea Butter
Pale Girl Snorkeling
I’ve used various scents of Bath and Body Works for my dry sensitive skins for years. I prefer the tube lotion for extra moisture in the winter. You can always find the classic scents on some sort of sale and deep discounts on the seasonals (I always buy in the after xmas sale)
Anonymous
B&BW is not cruelty free.
Suitstudio
Going to start interviewing soon for a senior management position in a range of industries (not banking or law) in the NE.
I need a new interview suit. Would the SuitStudio Cameron Midnight Blue suit work for this?
How about the shoes with the suit?
Link to follow
SuitStudio
https://us.suistudio.com/en_US/l_suits/cameron-midnight-blue-suit/LPC0338-S.html?gclid=Cj0KCQjwl9zdBRDgARIsAL5Nyn1GcBVYULXR-u7T7HqNlJXROU_8DUh1FY5JwjBN7eis9u-AluLuxjkaAos8EALw_wcB
busybee
The suit is fine but those shoes are awful.
Anonymous
Strong disagree on the shoes. They are not for me — because I lean towards more dainty shoes– but they are stylish and sleek.
Anon
This is definitely a “look”, which inherently has more risk/reward potential. The cut of that suit also has the potential to look great on you or be monstrously unflattering, entirely depending on your particular body shape.
If you know you can pull it off, then I would 100% wear it because you will look fabulous and memorable. If you’re iffy on whether it works for you, then I would pass and go with something a little less risky.
Housecounsel
I do not like the shoes one bit.
Anonymous
I’m not sure why you’re concerned about this look. Unless you’re interviewing in an office where people wear classic suits every single day, this should be sufficiently formal and not overly “fashion-y.” Plus, the jacket is very classic, and you’ll spend most of your time talking to people seated. For context, I’m 42 years old and work in law in Boston.
Now Here's a man who understands women "meme"
Have any of you seen that William Golding social media share that’s going around in which old white man Golding says, “I think women are foolish to pretend they are equal to men. They are far superior and always have been. Whatever you give a woman, she will make greater. If you give her $perm, she will make a baby. If you give her a house, she will give you a home. If you give her groceries, she will give you a meal. If you give her a smile, she will give you her heart. . . . ”
A lot of women are sharing it on my social media feeds and it’s driving me nuts. All of those things he lists are gender-biased and patriarchal. I am NOT saying that women who want to be domestic bada$$es shouldn’t be proud of that, but all of those examples are women in the home making babies, cleaning up after me, and cooking me dinner, etc. I tried to point this out to one of my female friends and it went over like a lead balloon.
I don’t have a question, just needed to vent about this.
Anon
I know. It’s so patronizing. Blech.
OP
Yes!! That’s the word I couldn’t find in my brain today.
OP
Not to mention that Golding admitted to trying to rape a 14 year old girl while he was 18 and makes other disparaging comments about why there were no little girls in Lord of the Flies.
Good share y’all!
nasty woman
Yes. It’s benevolent s3xism, and defining women and their value via gender roles.
I am not a grocery –> dinner conversion machine. Neither in theory or in actuality. If you give me groceries, I will eat all the cheese and put the rest in the fridge.
The “if you give her a smile she will give you her heart” is ludicrous and nauseatingly sentimental. It also doesn’t make sense- I don’t give my heart to anyone who smiles at me. Or, it implies that women will become overly devoted to men who haven’t given her equal devotion.
Anonymous
It’s not even benevolent
nasty woman
I know that it’s not, but the term is benevolent s3xism. Just to clarify. :)
Anonymous
The baby thing doesn’t bother me as much, because it is a skill (? probably not the right word, but you know what I mean) that really is unique to women and I think it’s so badass that we can do this incredible thing and men can’t do it. But the other stuff? YUCK NO. My husband does all the cooking and we have a cleaning service. I don’t “make him a home” that’s so so so so gross.
Anonymous
You give me sperm and I trust my birth control will shut that crap down.
PolyD
You win!
nasty woman
I want to rewrite it.
If you give her groceries she will eat all the cheese and put the rest in the refrigerator. If you give her a house she will spend way too much time on pinterest and too much money at West Elm; hope you like succulents! If you give her $perm she will flush it down the toilet. If you give her a smile she will not smile back just because you then said “hey b*tch, I smiled at you!”
(Former) Clueless Summer
Agreed. It’s so gross. The people sharing this on my FB are the same people who share other distasteful stuff like anti-immigrant rhetoric.
anon
Yes, I feel the same way whenever a male politician talks about how his stay-at-home wife has “the more important job.” BS–if you really felt that way, that would be the job you would be doing. More like: she does the stuff I can’t be bothered to deal with.
Anonymous
You clearly need new friends….ones who are aligned to your values…
OP
That’s fair. The ones who have shared it are more like acquaintances. Time to trim the IG followers it looks like!
Anonymous
Not a single woman in my feed would ever share this drivel.
Is it Friday yet?
Not to mention the fact that the only part he actually said is the first sentence. It’s like that fake Oscar Wilde quote floating around about not judging people by what car they drive. The fake Golding quote is a fully body cringe on like four different levels.
Is it Friday yet?
https://www.scmp.com/comment/insight-opinion/article/1941696/be-wary-effusive-praise-womens-achievements-gender
no thank you!
YUK First I have heard of this, but thank you for letting me know so I won’t waste a minute on it if it comes around – NO THANKS!!!!
Anon
It’s reminiscent of the nonsense about stay at home moms being worth $114,000 a year. (I say “nonsense” because it compares their work to work that requires many years of experience and sometimes licensure. Listening to your kid’s problems at school only costs as much as a psychologist if you have a PhD and a license. You are not a “CEO” of your household.)
Really, people need to feel good about themselves. I think it’s a weird way to do it and maybe getting a hobby would result in more self-confidence, but….
Anon
That is just… eww.
He’s saying we need to be “given” something to begin with. Like we’re some kind of charity case. Like without their sperms, we can’t make a baby, without their houses we can’t make a home, without their grocery dollars we can’t cook a meal. Just eww eww eww.
Senior Attorney
Yeah it’s just gross.
Worry about yourself
Ughhhhhhh
Here’s why this bothers me: I don’t want to be valued for my ability to make a baby, “make” a home, or cook a meal. I mean, I am a good cook and I think I’m doing an okay job setting up the apartment, but those are skills everyone should have and I want those responsibilities shared in my relationship. As for the baby thing, don’t value me for my ability to make a baby because I don’t even know if I want to – what, are infertile women less deserving of respect?
Things like this, and men in general saying “what? I’m not sexist! I love women! They’re soft and beautiful, and capable of giving life and caring for others, and they’re so strong, my wife puts up with all my sh!t” are basically saying that women are only worthy of love, respect, and any semblance of “equality” to men as long as we’re beautiful, feminine, willing to have kids and able to deal with men when they’re jerks. I wanna be treated like a whole damn human.
I’m really having a hard time holding it together today.
Original Moonstone
It cheered me up to check Wikipedia and see he’s dead. (I mean, he was 82 when he died, so it’s not as mean as it sounds.)
Anonymous
Vacuum recs for mostly hard wood floors with pets? sweeping just seems to make the dust/fur airborn.
Anonymous
Swiffer
Miss
Roomba daily works best for me.
Anon
Honestly, get a robovac and turn it on before leaving the house a few days a week (the Ilife Robot Vacuum has been keeping my home clean for at least three years), get a mid-range vacuum for the carpets once a week. It saved my time and my back from sweeping everyday.
Ecovacs
I bought a ecovacs Deebot robot vacuum for just over $200. Reviews state it does just as good a job as Shark or Roomba models, and you can control it with an app or Amazon Alexa (possibly Google Home as well).
K.
I love my Eufy robotic vac. It is particularly good with pet hair–we got it b/c it reviewed better with pet hair than the Roomba.
Duckles
That’s why I bought it too! But how do you clean the roller? It just has hair wrapped so tightly around it it’s always impossible to loosen or get it really clean.
Anonymous
Just got the Dyson wall-mounted cordless vac and it’s been life changing.
Worry about yourself
I got one of those off Groupon recently, a refurb V6. They’re actually on sale today, only $180. I love mine, it actually makes me want to vacuum!
busybee
Those of you who use the robovacs, how do you find they clean corners? All of the models I’m seeing are round and I’m curious to know how they clean along straight lines.
Also, have you noticed any damage to the bottom of your furniture from the robovac bumping into it?
Anon
No damage to the bumping, my Ilife has a bump sensor on a spring that moves inward if it touches something, so there are no hard bump. As for corners, it gets corners just fine because of little sweeper brushes that extend about an inch from the edges.
Anon
Up for some fun vicarious shopping help?
I’m looking for a dress to wear to a wedding at a winery. I’m petite with a postpartum belly. Wrap styles or something with sleeves would be nice but I’m open to anything! I just want to feel pretty!
lsw
What about something in velvet?
https://shop.nordstrom.com/s/eliza-j-velvet-sheath-dress/4753306
https://shop.nordstrom.com/s/eliza-j-draped-velvet-sheath-dress-regular-petite/5015993
http://www.bodenusa.com/en-us/clearance/womens-dresses/special-occasion-dresses/w0056/womens-robyn-velvet-dress <—- I own this dress and it's LOVELY
https://www.jcrew.com/p/shops/womengirlsdressesdealsx/wrap-dress-in-drapey-velvet/K0145?color_name=navy-twilight
https://www.jcrew.com/p/shops/womengirlsdressesdealsx/wrap-dress-in-drapey-velvet-blush-leopard/K0148?color_name=leopard
Anonymous
If your price point is a bit higher Lafayette 148 has some fun velvet dresses.
Anonymous
My (very large) employer is switching to a new compensation system, where everyone will be put in one of 100 or so general jobs categories and each job category has a pay band. If you’re below the minimum, you’ll get a bump up to the minimum, which seems fair. But if you’re above the maximum, you won’t be eligible for raises until the pay band is adjusted to encompass your salary. I’m almost $15k over the maximum and my employer only gives very small raises, so I expect it will be a decade at least until I’m eligible for a raise, even a 2% one to keep pace with inflation. I’m unbelievably frustrated. I negotiated a higher than average salary when I came in and they really wanted me, so they met my demands. I’ve only been here a year, so it’s frustrating that my negotiation seems like it was essentially for nothing. My boss shares my frustration, but feels like he can’t do anything about it, since this was an org-wide mandate by people far above him.
This is mostly a vent, but I’ll take advice if you have any. Finding a new job isn’t really an option – my employer is the only significant one in my field around here, and I can’t move for family reasons. I enjoy my job but I already feel underpaid and am not sure I want to keep doing it forever for the same numerical salary as the cost of everything around me increases.
Anonymous
You options are suck it up or find a new job. That’s it.
Anonymous
The next 1.5-two years, I would focus on mostly taking on things that boost my resume and make me more attractive to other employers. If you can’t move, take a good look at other companies and see whether pivoting into an adjacent field would open up new opportunities.
Within those same two years, you will see whether this new-fangled category system will stick. If it’s a large company, you won’t be the only unhappy person there. Maybe they will give raises after all, it shouldn’t be too hard to predict how many high performers they will loose over this.
Senior Attorney
Can you negotiate to be put in another category?
Anon
This. Having recently left a f500 company that did a similar scheme, your only hope is to be put into a different band. You need to point out the amount of autonomy and decision making your position currently involves. They may regard it as an adjustment or as a promotion. The adjustments are generally only available when the job classification scheme is new so get on it.
Anon
Yup… I recently got my position reclassified to reflect the value I am bringing to the organization. That said, it was something that required a lot of legwork by my boss and had she not been willing/able to go to bad on my behalf it never would have happened.
Anonymous
Ditto to anon at 12:29 – I had to negotiate to have my job band changed multiple times in order to address a similar situation. It was rough but worth it.
Anonymous
This. Work with your boss to reclassify your role, or put together a plan to reclassify it by next year. Maybe you’m get a promotion to “senior,” maybe you get an entirely different title.
Your situation is a prime example of the problems within orgs- and why they do it. I inherited a team of project managers who made anywhere from $75k-$125k, and it had nothing to do with experience. I worked with HR to flatten things out, but it took years before everyone’s comp aligned with their experience and value.
nuqotw
How should I celebrate an important professional achievement? Experience or thing? I am thinking one of
(1) babysitter and a night out with spouse at the event of my choice
(2) new suit (one that I might have gotten anyway, impeccably professional but definitely more fun than timeless)
but maybe something else?
Anonymous
I’d do both of those things!
Anonymous
Both?
Diana Barry
I vote both!
Anon
Both and I initially read it too fast as “Babysitter and night out with spouse of my choice”!
Anon
I’d like to have something that is about the size of a sheet of paper that I can pin to my bulletin board at work and write on like a white board. Has anyone seen something like this? I’m not looking for an actual whiteboard, just something I can pin up and write on / erase to keep track of work. Thanks for any suggestions!
Anonymous
No girl you’re looking for a white board. Buy one. Move on. We haven’t invented magic paper that functions like a white board yet.
anonshmanon
we have, it’s called plastic. This shaming someone for asking a question, coupled with complete ignorance of the poster strikes me as especially rude.
Anonymama
Amazon actually has contact paper that can be used win dry erase markers . There is also paint you can use that turns any surface into a whiteboard.
Anonymous
I would take a piece of paper, laminate it, and write on it with dry erase markers.
nutella
This is what we did as kids in the ’90s playing “school”- laminating for the win!
OP – I think there are ‘sheets’ of this you can buy on @maz0n
anon
You can use a sheet protector too, if you want to be able to remove the paper.
Vicky Austin
How can you write on and erase something that is not a whiteboard? Maybe I am missing something.
Anonymous
I think this does exist. Google “whiteboard vinyl.”
Alternatively, buy a small 8 x 10 whiteboard — the kind with a thin backing and no frame, and use T-pins to attach it to your bulletin board.
anonshmanon
You can use a dry-erase marker on a sheet protector. Add whatever piece of paper you want as the backdrop – voila!
Anonymous
This.
OP
Thank you, this is the kind of useful suggestion I was hoping for. To some of the other commenters, if you’re going to say something obnoxious, just don’t say anything all.
312
Target dollar spot had some very thin whiteboards a few weeks ago, they may be able to be pinned to your wall.
Anonymous
Yes, they do actually make whiteboard decals. I’ve had my eye on this one but there are tons of others out there: https://amzn.to/2IEqwLi
Anon
Recs for websites that talk about investing? I’m looking for something credile that gives general financial advice and specific recommendations for stock and bond investments. Like, “people expect the fed to raise interest rates, so you should do xyz.” Does something like this exist?
Anony
Bogleheads is a great investing forum and I’ve gotten 99% of my wisdom and advice there around finances there, but as part of their philosophy, they aren’t going to recommend timing the market or investing in individual stocks. (The readers do coalesce around certain bond investments.) I haven’t spent as much time there, but Motley Fool might be more what you’re looking for?
Anon
In general, there are websites that discuss macro trends, and great newsletters (PIMCO, Cambridge Associates), but given there are so many different investing philosophies and risk tolerances, I would be very wary of this. Instead, head on over to Reddit’s forums where you can discuss and digest.
JDMD
I’d be very cautious about any website that promotes any sort of timing-the-market strategy or makes specific recommendations about which stocks/bonds to buy. We adhere closely to the Boglehead school of investing, summarized by three points:
1. Regular saving
2. Broad diversification
3. Stick to your investment plan regardless of market conditions
More on this philosophy here:
https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Getting_started
Kavanaugh Protest
Is anyone going to the protest at the capitol tomorrow? I don’t expect it to change the outcome, but am thinking about going
Anonymous
Waste of time.
Worry about yourself
No, I live in Boston, not traveling for that. I think I’ll just stay home and drink, because either they appoint him and I wanna be drunk, or by some tiny chance these sexist turd burgers decide at the last minute that this insane butt possum shouldn’t be on the highest court in the land, I will want to celebrate. I mean, I’d be celebrating them clearing a very low bar for human decency but it would still make me happy.
Anon
Also in Boston. Will be seeing Hamilton tomorrow (and ignoring the news).
Worry about yourself
Anyone got any peanut butter? ‘Cause I’m super jelly right now!
Anon
Butt possum is really too nice a term.
/Jk it’s new to me and I plan on using it all the time now.
Worry about yourself
I’ve been using an insult generator today . . .
therapy anon
I know a lot of women here are in therapy and often recommend therapy and I wanted to get a gut check. I went through a period of feeling pretty low this summer, nothing terrible but unusual and unpleasant for me, so I reached out to my Employee Assistance Programme and they set me up with six sessions with a counsellor. I’ve had three. It’s not going too well and I don’t know if it’s her or if it’s what I think should be happening in counselling that’s out of whack.
She’s into autogenic training and talks me through the same practice every time I see her, which is okay (although I prefer the mindfulness I do on my own), but is it really a good use of 45 minutes to spend 10-15 of them doing something you can do off a thousand recordings off the internet? Then in my first session her nephew dropped off her cats halfway through and today we were pretty much finishing up after 30 minutes anyway and then a woman showed up (maybe a friend, maybe her next client, it wasn’t really clear), came in the open front door, sat down in the same room with us and said hi. So I did leave 15 minutes early.
Mostly, she keeps asking what I want to talk about but when I mention something she gives me platitudes or is dismissive. I think she has me down as someone who is fine but just has a busy job and doesn’t actually have any issues, which is maybe true. I do objectively have a nice life and had a decent childhood. Things I’ve brought up that were skimmed over include social anxiety (everyone has it!), my coping methods for stress being overeating and overspending (just kind of ignored), procrastinating to the point I’m worried it’s affecting my job (it’s just fear, be more gentle with myself!), and having just in the last couple of years started putting boundaries in place around my parents’ marriage problems (good for me!) This is not what I expected from counselling – I’d like help to explore these things but it feels like I’m being shut down. Is it my job in therapy to push past that and talk anyway?
Anyway obviously the fit with this lady is just not good, but I’m contemplating trying to find my own counsellor after the six sessions are done and paying myself so if I need to recalibrate my expectations about what therapy is that would be really useful info.
Anonymous
From what you’ve described, it’s not just a fit issue. She sounds like she’s terrible at her job. It happens. Therapists can have different backgrounds. “Psychodynamic” can mean that a therapist can use different approaches, which can be helpful.
Anonymous
I’m not a therapist, I’m a life coach. But even as a life coach, I would never, ever allow those kind of disruptions in a session. My entire goal is to focus solely on the client in front of me, and listen deeply to what he or she is saying. Sometimes a knock on the door does come, but I apologize profusely and we quickly move on.
Can you go ahead and switch to a different person now? At the minimum, her engagement style is more exhorting/cheerful than you are looking for right now.
I understand that it takes quite a bit for a high performer to seek out this kind of help, so I trust that there’s more going on underneath than has been able to surface in these sessions.
Anonymous
Wow, she sounds pretty unprofessional. Your sessions should not be subject to this type of interruption unless there is a legit, building is on fire emergency.
I just started back into therapy myself. The first session I felt like didn’t really discuss the big issue, but we did talk about some smaller triage actions I can take so I have the space to do the harder work on the bigger issue. The second session went better- I set the tone and said this is the issue I struggle with the most, can we talk about that. I come out of each session with homework in the form of self-assessments or specific actions to try. Progress is slow, but I can see the path. Can you give her some feedback on what isn’t working and ask for a different approach for a session?
Senior Attorney
No, no, no. This is not okay. The nephew and the cats? Wrapping up early and chatting with a third person? Hells to the no. Stop now and find someone else through the EAP. And if I were you I would lodge a complaint.
Elegant Giraffe
Complain and demand a “refund” of your three sessions. This is nuts.
AnotherAnon
+1 to everything SA said. Find another therapist through EAP. Keep trying until you get a someone who clicks with you. File a complaint – I can’t believe this person is a licensed therapist.
therapy anon
OP here – thanks everyone for your comments. It’s really relieved me that this isn’t just how it goes. I’ll try with my EAP but I suspect it’s just not very good, or based on what the counsellor told me about her rates this morning, just very cheap. They’ve already told me that this was the only person in their system who fit in my availability parameters (mornings or evenings preferred but any time except one evenings a week a possibility) and distance (accessible by public transport from central London)! I do think therapy with someone better would be a help so I will get back to researching that.
A
Not sure if too late but after a trying year I also used my EAP for therapy. It was not a good fit, twice and I’ve come to the conclusion that the therapist is either new or not very good and this is how they became attached to the work program. They are looking for clients essentially.
Also, their job is for you to remain at your job, ie: no stress or mental health breaks from work.
Luckily, my employer added a new benefit of $3000 a year, for therapy, social worker, psychologist etc, no referrals and no questions asked. So I promptly found my own therapist who said ‘well, the first thing we are doing is writing the paperwork for 2 weeks off’, lol
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