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Where are your favorite places to get funny t-shirts for gifts (and yourself?!)? Do you have favorites because of the quality of the t-shirt/printing or do you just buy ones that catch your eye?
I've bought stuff from CafePress, BustedTees, Threadless, and Svaha, as well as Amazon (although a lot of their stuff comes from third-party sellers). I also have some funny t-shirts I love that I have no memory of where they came from — a “hooray sports do the thing win the points” shirt, a “nevertheless she persisted” shirt, a “no one cares about your blog” shirt (I think it's funny, at least), and I'm sure more that escape me.
As part of a Christmas gift for my husband (shhh) I just ordered a t-shirt from TeeSpring yesterday with a family design on it (long story). If we like the quality, I may finally sell Corporette shirts.
Anyway — Snorg T-shirts have a lot of fun options right now, including for grammar and book lovers — hooray! The pictured shirt comes in men's, women's, and kids' sizes and is $20.
(But FYI, if you want delivery by 12/25 you need to order by Priority Mail, by tomorrow).
Sales of note for 9.30.24
- Nordstrom – Beauty deals through September
- Ann Taylor – Extra 30% off sale
- Banana Republic Factory – 50% off everything + extra 20% off
- Boden – 15% off new styles
- Eloquii – Extra 50% off sale
- J.Crew – 50% off select styles
- J.Crew Factory – Up to 60% off everything + 50% off sale with code
- Lo & Sons – Warehouse sale, up to 70% off
- M.M.LaFleur – Save 25% sitewide
- Neiman Marcus – Friends & Family 25% off
- Rag & Bone – Friends & Family 25% off sitewide
- Spanx – Lots of workwear on sale, some up to 70% off
- Talbots – Fall Cyber Monday sale, 40% off sitewide and $5 shipping
- Target – Car-seat trade-in event through 9/28 — bring in an old car seat to get a 20% discount on other baby/toddler stuff.
- White House Black Market – 40% off select styles
Sales of note for 9.30.24
- Nordstrom – Beauty deals through September
- Ann Taylor – Extra 30% off sale
- Banana Republic Factory – 50% off everything + extra 20% off
- Boden – 15% off new styles
- Eloquii – Extra 50% off sale
- J.Crew – 50% off select styles
- J.Crew Factory – Up to 60% off everything + 50% off sale with code
- Lo & Sons – Warehouse sale, up to 70% off
- M.M.LaFleur – Save 25% sitewide
- Neiman Marcus – Friends & Family 25% off
- Rag & Bone – Friends & Family 25% off sitewide
- Spanx – Lots of workwear on sale, some up to 70% off
- Talbots – Fall Cyber Monday sale, 40% off sitewide and $5 shipping
- Target – Car-seat trade-in event through 9/28 — bring in an old car seat to get a 20% discount on other baby/toddler stuff.
- White House Black Market – 40% off select styles
And some of our latest threadjacks here at Corporette (reader questions and commentary) — see more here!
Some of our latest threadjacks include:
- What to say to friends and family who threaten to not vote?
- What boots do you expect to wear this fall and winter?
- What beauty treatments do you do on a regular basis to look polished?
- Can I skip the annual family event my workplace holds, even if I'm a manager?
- What small steps can I take today to get myself a little more “together” and not feel so frazzled all of the time?
- The oldest daughter is America's social safety net — change my mind…
- What have you lost your taste for as you've aged?
- Tell me about your favorite adventure travels…
Senior Attorney
I really like RedBubble and Design by Humans for t-shirts. They both take a little navigating but they have tons of great artists.
all about eevee
My favorite site for t-shirts is Teepublic. My husband has a very niche hobby and they had shirts for his hobby!
Pep
Teepublic is selling T-shirts with art pirated from an artist acquaintance of mine. I won’t patronize them for anything.
Anonymous
I like Bonfire. That’s where I got the Bad Things Happen in Philadelphia shirt I wear basically every time it’s clean.
Anon
I love my Bad Things Happen in Philadelphia mug and asked for a shirt for Christmas
LaurenB
OMG I must have these! I will out myself totally with this, but I grew up literally a few blocks from Four Seasons Landscaping … my family was beyond hysterical with laughter when that whole thing went down. “The news is talking about a drab industrial neighborhood in Northeast Philadelphia — oh wait, that’s what we are from!”
Anonymous
I bought one of their Ts. Gotta love whoever took the call from Giuliani’s office and didn’t correct their impression they had reached the hotel!
LaurenB
I bought a t-shirt from Chummytees for my drummer brother-in-law – they had some cute stuff. I haven’t received it yet, though, so can’t speak to quality. (But, I mean, how high quality does it need to be for him to sit in his drum room and drum?)
JustmeintheSouth
Life is good tees–some great messages and quality shirts.
Anon
I have to share this – ballet performed outdoors. Bay Area friends will recognize the decommissioned Alameda Naval Air Base as the setting.
https://youtu.be/Ru5H3LHiU1M
Anonymous
Lovely! Thanks for the link!
Anon
I have been humming the tune since watching it! No in-person nutcracker for us this year but at least there is this video!!
Horse Crazy
What meditation apps do people like? I’m looking for stress-relieving meditations, as well as ones that can help you fall asleep. I know there are a bunch of different apps out there, and I don’t mind paying a few bucks for a good app. Thanks!
Vicky Austin
Calm has been great for me. The sleep meditations work better than the sleep stories, so far.
Anonymous
For me, Headspace has been worth every penny. Sleep meditations, sleep stories, soundscapes…
Anon
I love Headspace.
anon
I subscribe to Headspace, but they also have a free trial (one week). I’ve used it since pre-pandemic, but found it especially helpful during the pandemic. They have a whole sleep section; I enjoy “switching off” and have listened to some of their sleepcasts in the bath while relaxing. Yes, I fell asleep once. For stress relief, I use “breathe” and “panicking”.
Anonymous
Welzen. I love them for falling asleep, as well as other general meditiations.
Anon
I was amazed that loona successfully got me to fall asleep. I am not much for meditation, but I’ve seen Insight Timer praised as a good meditation to app to start with.
Marie
I like Insight Timer a lot, especially for relaxing music/ambient noise to do yoga or fall asleep to.
Pink
Second insight timer for the sleep meditations.
Anonymous
Without outting anyone, how many posters do you guys recognize as people you know in real life?
I’ll go first, I know two. One is an ex colleague, nothing notable. The other is a colleague’s wife, the only reason I recognized her on this site was that she said something quite callous which reminded me about something she said to me in real life regarding my job, that it will crush my ambition and I’ll never accomplish anything meaningful.
Anonymous
Someone once (correctly) answered a question so specific to my region and niche area of practice that I suspect I may know her, but I can’t say for certain who she is. So I guess the answer is zero.
CountC
None. The only people whose real names I know are those I have corresponded with outside of this site.
Senior Attorney
Only the people I met via meetups, which we used to have back in the day. Back when, you know, leaving the house and seeing people socially was a thing.
*sigh*
all about eevee
How is this helpful? Seems like a great way to get in a real-life fight with your colleague’s wife.
Anonymous
I think she posted this Q before but the colleague’s wife didn’t see it so she’s trying again.
Anon
Yeah, it sounds like she wants the colleague’s wife to know that she’s watching.
Far more sensible, I think, to not interact with the colleague’s wife.
Anon
I’m sure a plurality of people hold an identical opinion about this job.
No Face
Someone told you that your job would crush your ambition and that you’ll never accomplish anything meaningful?!! Extremely rude. Also stupid.
anonshmanon
but then again, that alone isn’t so unique. Two people can say something rude and callous.
Vicky Austin
Ha. *voice echoes across the empty northern plains*
Mary
Oh, a thread for doxxing other posters? Cool,cool,cool, cool.
Anon
Yeah, this seems like some passive-aggressive pot-stirring to me. I think the OP wants the poster she’s talking about to know she knows who they are. Very “I Know What You Did Last Summer” and almost as crazypants. Also not very cool.
Anonymous
This was in no way a threat nor will colleague’s wife recognize me, she says this sort of stuff so frequently it’s just a blip on her radar.
all about eevee
Well, then what were you trying to accomplish by posting this? Just a fun thread where we expose each other so we can all take this into real life?
Anonymous
Right? So weird. If ppl are anon, it’s because they want to be anon.
Anonymous
Yeah, this is kind of creepy. Is this a weird way of telling all of us to watch our backs?
Anon
Yeah this seems really odd and aggressive to me. Plus I once got “recognised” on another site, and the poster who thought she knew me was completely wrong. Of course it’s always a good idea to be mindful of how much personal information you’re sharing online, but if you’re identifying people based on one similar sounding remark I think you might be reaching.
A.
I’ve never recognized anyone else but was once recognized here from a Facebook group I’m in with other grads from my (small) college. A weird moment for sure.
Anon
None. I had an incident here years ago where someone recognized me (well, was about half right) and it was …. uncomfortable and weirdly accusatory, so I’ve been Anon ever since.
Creepy. I think the word I was looking for was creepy. Not quite to the level of the Lauren B stalkers on here, but weirder in real life.
Anon
Never, and I try not to find them either. This is a nice safe space to ask questions or comment.
Anon
This!
Anonymous
Is anyone having problems with returns processed through Narvar? I have sent a few things back on various dates since October and none of them have been delivered. The tracking information makes it look as if Narvar is picking the items up from USPS and then they just disappear. I’ve had to contact the retailers and they are “investigating.” This makes me hesitant to order anything else for which there’s any possibility of having to make a return, because even if I get the refunds for this round of items the retailers will be suspicious if it happens again.
Anon
I thought Narvar was just software and not a shipping company that picks up stuff? It might be better to track directly on USPS’s site and skip them. But if the retailers have the tracking information stating that it’s been shipped I doubt they would blame you.
Anon
+1 Narvar isn’t actually a shipping company.
Anonymous
So who is the mysterious “shipping agent” who picks up the packages from USPS? When I track through USPS, I get notification that the package was picked up from USPS by “shipping agent.” Then the package disappears.
Anon
Some sort of shipping partner, presumably. Sometimes vendors use USPS who delivers to UPS or FedEx for final delivery.
Cat
+1, if you click in Narvar long enough you’ll get to the actual tracking number. You can just G—gle it – G—gle knows which ones are USPS vs UPS vs FedEx.
Anon -- public service announcement
Public Service Announcement:
At Taco Bell, you can add extra cheese to any item for a bit of an upcharge.
Senior Attorney
Also Del Taco!! Extra cheese for the win!!!
left SoCal 20 years ago
OMG, Del Taco is still in business? Do they still have Pup N Taco too?
Senior Attorney
Haha Del Taco is still on pretty much every corner.
Pup N Taco, alas, ceased operations in 1984. They used to have a store across the street from my high school and you could get a Coke for a dime! (mid-70s)
Senior Attorney
This is fun: http://www.rogerwendell.com/pnt.html
all about eevee
Taco Bell will do basically anything you want if you ask.
Anon
They will even make you an enchirito (IN CHI REE TO) of sorts.
Anon
I am wondering if this is a masters thesis for anyone in zoology / veterinary medicine / biology.
Why does my dog spin in different directions before he poops? Is he trying to align with something? He is sensing . . . something. Has this been discovered?
[I feel like doing a thesis in the humanities is trying to find any non-trod ground to write about; not sure if sciences have this problem. Solving this particular problem could really increase the walking time portion of the dog walk.]
Anon
To pat down the snow/grass so it doesn’t touch his bum when he poops?
Please!
Yes, I need an answer to this question. Now that you’ve asked, it will totally be bugging me!
Vicky Austin
I thought it had to do with the extensive sniffing that also occurs pre-poop. Like they have to be in the exact right place. “*sniff sniff sniff* Yes, that’s the right smell, but it’s coming from the wrong direction…*spins* ah, yes, notes of manure and diesel exhaust from the southeast, just right. Time to poop.”
Anon
The “notes of” bit made me laugh out loud!
LaurenB
I read that they align themselves to magnetic north, but I have no idea if I read this in a real science journal or some online version of the National Enquirer.
Anon
OP here — either my pup has a rogue compass or this isn’t true (or isn’t true for him). He tends to point in a westerly direction, but that would also be because if he is on the first part of the street, that is also with his back to me (he is in planting strip, I am on sidewalk). Only rarely is he facing me. I have too much thinking time during our many, many walks. Also it is cold, so I try to not focus on that.
HW
It’s nice that he points away from you. My friend’s dog will make long, meaningful eye contact while pooping and it’s very uncomfortable.
Anonymous
LOL! “Meaningful” made me laugh out loud
Horse Crazy
My cat stares at me from his litter box!
Anonymous
Not true. My little dog likes to chase geese and often poops afterward. He will point his backside to whatever direction the geese were initially in. Almost like a “Take that!” LOL
ArenKay
LaurenB is right! Actual scientists studied this with a biggish sample of dogs, and their peer-reviewed article claimed dogs end up pointing north or south most frequently, and hypothesized it was the magnetic poles.
Pep
My dog always poops with her back to me. I think she feels more secure (in her admittedly vulnerable position) knowing I “have her back”
Curious
Let’s play 2020 reflection, inspired by the thread yesterday. What did you do this year? How do you feel?
I did the exercise last night and realized we made several major purchases (house, car), I stepped back from two volunteer roles but took on more to help struggling friends, and continued to grow fast at work. I feel really good about the year despite our early struggles in the TTC journey. My world is smaller than in prior years, but we donated large amounts to charity and I just don’t feel bad about stepping back from volunteer roles at all. I’m a little shocked I feel this good given COVID and climate change and the general state of American politics and hope that my morals aren’t declining and this is just a phase of life/ coping mechanism. Would love to hear from others :)
all about eevee
I feel bad. It was bad. My Mom had an affair and my Dad had a mental breakdown. My relationship with my husband got better, though. I read a bunch of books and watched more TV than ever. I bought an exercise bike. I feel more sure of myself and my work. I loved working from home. I ended up with two more wiener dogs. That makes four wiener dogs.
Anon
Have you seen the magnet that says “dachshunds are like potato chips, you can’t have just one?” :D
Curious
Oh I’m so sorry. What a terribly hard year.
Anonymous
We’ve given a record amount to charity. We got in a few outdoorsy trips before everything shut down. I’ve reconnected with a lonely relative in weekly phone calls. I talked to my best friends once a week on the phone rather than just texting. I wrote letters to voters and text-banked for Biden. My marriage is better than ever. I’ve been extremely, extremely lucky to remain employed in an industry that is doing well. I’m high-risk and life is a lot different now, but there is a lot to be grateful for.
Anon
I got a job in my mid-fifties, mid-pandemic, in my field and comparable to the one I got laid off from a few months earlier.
Anon
Woohoo!!
Senior Attorney
Hooray for you!! That’s great!
Curious
Congratulations!!
Anon
I’m in politics (healthcare). I spent my year banging my head against the wall.
My husband’s in politics (defense). He spent his year banging his head against the wall.
This will out me if you know me in real life, but on the back of our Christmas cards where I always include a few lines about what we’re up to, I wrote basically that ^ and that we’re looking forward to spending the holidays quietly – by ourselves – in a remote location – where tweets don’t reach ?
Diana Barry
I did a heck of a lot more meal planning than ever before. We saved a lot of money from not going out to eat, and DH and I are still fully employed and making the same amount as pre-covid. We did a minor renovation that was all outside work so no one had to come in the house. The kids seem to still be learning things! I also took on a musical project that has had me busy for the last month and a half…just for myself but I’m very pleased that I did it. DH and I finally started going on walks most days and gave $$ to our local trails org that maintains the places where we walk. Our kids still have too much screen time, but it’s not as bad as it could have been!
Curious
I love all of this :)
Anon
My husband is a serious alcoholic with depression. The pandemic forced me to confront it after about 7 years (!) of denial. We’re both in therapy and in marriage therapy, and I made him see a psychiatrist, but he’s mad about being prescribed pills to manage the depression. I don’t know if my marriage will make it, or if I love him anymore, and I am terrified. I don’t know whether I should cut bait, see my kids 50% of the time or live in a pretty unhappy marriage. My life is falling apart.
Anon
I’m sorry you are going through this. If your kids will be miserable 100% of the time with you together, it is better to have them with you and happy 50% of the time. Most of my divorced friends adjusted and found things to do in their new found alone time when they ended up splitting and sharing custody. My advice would only be different if you don’t trust him to keep your kids safe when they are with him but don’t believe the behavior is so blatant that you could prevent custody.
Anonymous
I’m so sorry. I was you a few years ago. One day I realized that I didn’t love him anymore, and didn’t want to be with him, and that if my child were an adult and came to me and said This Is My Marriage, I would tell her to leave immediately and the kid will be fine.
My ex was in therapy at the time and working on the alcoholism, but I was just done with him and the marriage.
It’s been 3 years and I’m happier than I have ever been in my life. I look back on those years like a scary nightmare. I can’t be sure that it was best for my child long term because we aren’t there yet, but she’s a happy, thriving, functional kid. We share custody 50/50 and my ex is a very devoted parent and I think the knowledge that I would not hesitate to fight for full custody if there’s even any hint of bad parenting on his part keeps him very much in check.
Good luck anon!
Senior Attorney
Hugs to you! I echo the other responses — don’t live in an unhappy marriage. And don’t be me and let 7 bad years turn into 15 before you find the courage to make a break.
Anon
I am so sorry you are dealing with this. Keep your head up and I wish you the courage and strength to make the tough decisions! We are rooting for you.
Anon
I am so sorry.
Green tea
You are totally amazing.
I know how hard it is to get someone who has mental illness + substance abuse into therapy and on meds. That fact that you both are in therapy and he is getting medical treatment is HUGE and amazing and ….. give it time. Some of his anger now is depression and as he gets treated…. well, we’ll see. It can’t be worse, right?
You are totally amazing. Well done.
Anon
On the health and wealth front, we are in a wonderful position. We are doing great financially and we can donate more than ever. No one in my immediate family has gotten COVID-19. I am genuinely so appreciative, but I feel pretty crappy in other respects. 2018 and 2019 were very rough years for me physically and emotionally, for many, many reasons. I was burn out before this year started. 2020 was supposed to be my recovery year to heal and connect with friends and family. Lol, pandemic parenting young children with minimal social interaction and no breaks ever – not exactly a time for healing. I am more burnt out than ever.
Curious
Ow, this sounds hard.
Sloan Sabbith
I read 200+ books and developed a closer relationship with my parents. Got to spend a lot of time with my grandparents. Pre-COVID I crossed two things off my bucket list.
I’m sick of this year, though. It’s just been one punch after another and I’m tired of seeing what it will ruin me with next.
Curious
Yeah, and the past few weeks have been no exception. Sending warm thoughts your way and your dad’s way, Sloan.
Sloan Sabbith
Thanks, Curious. Today was a hard day.
anon
I had another miscarriage and my husband said he wanted to stop TTC, it was too much for him. Within a week my company went from “this job can’t be done remotely” to “everyone WFH for the rest of the year.” We basically put our lives and hobbies on hold for months trying to do two full time jobs while daycare was closed. Daycare reopened, and now she’s in in-person kindergarten, but we’ve only somewhat managed to figure out how to get back to doing something other than watching screens in our free time. Staying home helped my plantar fasciitis heal, but I haven’t found the motivation to pick up a workout routine and lose all the fertility treatment weight. I did all I could to tip this red state blue, but my Dem candidates lost up and down the ballot. DH’s job may become full time WFH, but in the summer I was given a new responsibility and a role on a team that did require my presence in the office. The rest of the team neither wants nor needs me, but my boss gave me a glowing review for “stepping outside my comfort zone.” I joined a book club and have rekindled my love of reading. This has been a rough year.
Curious
It sounds really rough. I hope 2021 is better for you and your family, anon.
Anon
That sounds really rough. We also stopped TTC and trying to adopt because it was too much. Solidarity.
Horse Crazy
On the positive side, I got engaged this year, and my fiancé and I both found new jobs. On the negative side, my father-in-law passed away right before Thanksgiving, the horse I rode passed away in the summer (which was my main stress outlet/source of happiness), we evacuated for a month from a huge fire (didn’t lose our home, but having PTSD from it – I haven’t slept through the night since we came home), my new job is very stressful and has a huge learning curve, and my fiancé understandably can’t support me the way I need him to because his dad just died. On both the positive and negative sides, I had two foot surgeries this year – I needed them to happen and I’m very glad I got it over with, but it’s a very long, painful, and difficult healing process. I’ve been on crutches for almost half of the year (at different times). Oh, and there’s a pandemic. And climate change. And our country is a huge, racist, sexist mess. I’m not feeling great.
Anonymous
I’m so sorry about your father-in-law and the horse you rode. Both losses are so hard. I also had a really stressful wildfire season and it’s going to take some time to recover fully – can’t imagine going through everything else you went through on top of that.
Horse Crazy
And the kicker is that wildfire season comes back every year, isn’t it? I’m sorry you had to deal with that as well – it’s just so scary.
Anonymous
This year was so hard in so many ways. My kids (20, 12, 9) have been home since March. My oldest had to come home from college. Luckily, she has been able to take classes online and work from home as well. My middle child is doing fine with online school academically, but I worry about the impact this is having socially and emotionally on him. My youngest is struggling with online school and with really missing her friends. I am a lawyer and while I can work from home, it has been so hard to get anything done at all. My husband is an essential worker and so goes to work everyday and works very long hours. Thankfully we are doing fine financially. Not having to pay housing costs for our oldest helped, and I finally paid off my student loans this year. Our savings account is doing great. We have also been able to donate more money than ever.
But I feel so burned out with work and with virtual school. We need our routines back. I also haven’t seen my parents in months and am worried about how they are doing. They won’t let me visit though, which I understand but makes me sad. They are divorced and both live alone.
Anonanonanon
I feel a lot of mixed emotions about 2020. My mother-in-law died of COVID, the dog my husband and I have had our entire marriage died. Our little immediate family feels super isolated, as most of our family thinks we are crazy for taking the pandemic seriously. But on the other hand I love WFH and not having daycare at the beginning of the pandemic meant I got to see my daughter take her first steps.
Anon
T-shirts are like tote bags for me. I have way too many and absolutely don’t want any more. Even in 2020 with working from home, I can’t really wear all the ones I’ve already accumulated. And frankly, cutesy or funny t-shirts just aren’t my style.
Anonymous
They’re not my style either. I wear plain or striped tees and that’s about it. However, I enjoy gifting them to other people who *do* like them.
Anon
+1 cutesy/funny t shirts are not my jam
anon
I used to be SUCH a t-shirt person. And now, anything printed barely gets worn. I wear solids, stripes, and that’s about it. I’m not sure what changed, other than noticing that t-shirts were doing my wardrobe zero favors. I started looking like an overgrown college student at some point.
Anonymous
Not my style either. I also get annoyed when people who do like funny T-shirts expect me to crack up hysterically at them when we meet. Just do you and I’ll do me, friend…
Anon
Yep. They’re always like Men’s tee shirts with a crew neck and they look awful on me. If gifted one I might either use it to paint in or throw it into the goodwill pile immediately.
There was a thing a few years ago where you were supposed to wear a graphic tee with a blazer for that rock n roll look. That was a trend I sat out. I’m happy it went the way of the fedora.
Anonymous
For anyone in finance / accounting / risk management / investigations / prosecution, this is an absolutely hilarious t-shirt. I got one for someone for Christmas this year.
https://www.tb4a.com/collections/vintage/products/enron-employee-of-the-year-t-shirt
Senior Attorney
*snort*
JustmeintheSouth
Too funny!
Anonymous
I want this
Anon
I hate, hate, hate funny t shirts. Pretty much the only shirts/sweatshirts with writing on them I wear are for my college, free shirts from races I’ve done, or for my NFL team. My dad, on the other hand, loves funny t shirts. Every year at Christmas we all seem to get one, but one year he gave everyone like 4 or 5 for Christmas. My brother likes them, my mom rolls her eyes and wears them around the house to appease him, and I leave mine at my parents house “so I have something to wear when I stay over”.
Now that I think about it though, I’m also not a huge t-shirt person. I have a few that I wear, but my style is much more of a plain white T than a printed T shirt. I also hate wearing sleeves for working out (or really, shirts) so I don’t get any use out of them for the gym either.
Anon
Guys, I need some help dealing with a work situation right now and getting into a healthier head space over it. I’m an attorney, working remote since March. My assistant had been with me a few years. Wasn’t great but always learning and had a good personality. In the past year she allegedly had many terrible things going on in her life and I gave her so many extensions and breaks. I took so much off of her plate and onto mine. I figured it would pay off in the future. Well her work started getting worse and worse and worse. Making just insane mistakes like she wasn’t even remotely trying. I know 2020 is hard so I was rolling with it. She started using tons of sick leave. And then, after all of these breaks, decided to leave for another firm. I had been getting to the point of thinking about having to fire her (like she told me she had informed a client about a mediation when in fact she hadn’t) and I was relieved she was leaving on her own terms instead.
Well, now that she has left we have found a gigantic freaking disaster in her wake. It’s not just 2020 either. We are finding stuff, like paper filing, that she never did from 2019. She took elaborate efforts to cover up what she wasn’t getting done so it’s not just poor management. Just as an example, if we asked her to start a shell of something but if she was too busy we’d give it to someone else. She’d say she could do it and there would be a document in the file with that name but when I eventually got to working on it, I’d open it and it was blank. (This was before she left actually). She said she had put it there as a placeholder for herself which made no sense. It wasn’t a template. It was so when I checked the electronic file, a document with that name would be there and I would think she had done it.
My firm was already over worked and short staffed. We have been trying to hire for her position (as are many firms in the area) and no one is applying. Sadly, I think the pandemic had a lot of women (let’s be honest, many legal assistants are young women) leave the workforce to do childcare. Other people don’t want to switch firms in an unsteady economy.
My firm has shuffled staff around so I have an assistant now who is helping dig me out of this avalanche but everyday she is finding more and more stuff that was covered up. I am just so freaking furious. I should be grateful that I didn’t have to fire her because nobody likes doing that but it makes me so angry that I gave her all these breaks (literally fighting with my boss to let her work from home for medical reasons) when she was just not doing her work and LYING about it. I need to get over it and just work on fixing it but every time I hear “oh no, she did this and not that” my blood pressure boils. I just want to yell at her (which I would never actually do to an employee) and scream (WTF). There is so much dishonesty that I now don’t even believe many of the reasons she said she needed time off from work, that I gave her, beyond the days she had.
Here is the only upside to this situation. An attorney at another firm has poached several of our assistants. He cold calls them and offers them more money. His firm can afford more than mine for a variety of reasons. We train our people well so they are sought after. Anyway, she went to work for his firm. I suspect he may have poached her. He has no idea the train wreck he just brought on himself….
Another thing helping has been commiseration. I’ve had two other attorneys apologize to me for errors and said that their assistants had been going through issues this year and have since left the firm and they are just now discovering the undone work and errors. I know I’m not the only one but seriously W.T.F.
Anon
I’m really sorry, that sucks. Sounds like your firm needs to pay people more so you can get good talent that will stay.
Anon
Yes and yes. Better pay, better people and OMG I’m SO sorry – what a giant disaster to have to dig out from.
Anon
Agree with this. What she did is not acceptable; however, you say that your firm is overworked and short-staffed, and people are poached for more money. Eventually, the powers that be at your firm need to pay enough money to hire talented people to do the job correctly.
Anon
Isn’t that just part of law firm life though? I don’t think I’ve ever worked in any law firm (and I’ve worked at a few) that didn’t have more work than time to do it in.
Anon
Also, paying people more will get you applicants. It’s probably not just the pandemic that is causing people to stay away.
Anon
I know. Unfortunately, I have no control over pay. I’ve heard from other firms hiring right now that they are struggling to get anyone decent to apply.
Anon
Thanks. I just wish she had come clean when she left. She knew we would find the disaster. So why not just say “I was going through all these issues, I never actually did X, Y and Z.” We asked her to give us status reports on what projects she had not yet completed and where she left off when she left and she gave us the vaguest answers. Case X – getting medical records. Not which medical records she already had, which ones we still needed.
It will all eventually be okay but I’m trying to get over the anger. I guess sometimes anger is an appropriate emotion and hopefully someday I will just look back on this and laugh.
Anonymous
If it helps to get over the anger, I’d think about it like the mail carrier I had growing up. He couldn’t keep up with his route and started to store mail in the trunk of his car. Eventually people will find out–but I think sometimes folks are just drowning so much that they’ll do anything to just make the in-the-moment feel better. I’m sure the blank doc logic went something like this: “I’ll create the doc so folks don’t come calling and will get to it as soon as I do X, Y or Z first. Oh damn. I have all of these blank docs to catch up to, so I better create more.” I’m not saying it is right in any way, shape or form. But she probably wasn’t doing these things “at” you so much as trying to keep her failures from being discovered. If she is someone who hides from problems, then that means more days off–and then the cycle probably gets even worse. At least you aren’t being held responsible. I’ve been told I’m too easy on people and didn’t create enough systems of accountability under a similar circumstance in the past (that was nothing even nearly touching the surface of what it sounds like you’ve been dealing with). The assessment stung a bit. But I have since developed more systems for keeping tabs on time and quality. t might be something to consider here as well. At the least, it channels the anger into action.
Anon
Pre-pandemic I worked with an assistant sort of like this. I liked her personally but she always had something extremely dramatic going on in her life that made her miss work, or not be able to function at work. It was a mess when she left but we were glad too. So we’re the other assistants, because she couldn’t get along with them.
Then the requests for references started coming from her. She mistook my friendliness for approval of her performance and to this day I receive calls from other companies considering hiring her because I guess I’m her perennial reference. She’s had several short stint jobs since we worked together.
anonnnn
This sucks and I am so sorry. I am dealing with this but it was a global manager who did this crap. We are still uncovering things that she effed up and we can’t blame her to internal or external clients since she was a part of our group (never reported to me) but you better believe my colleague and I rant and rave behind closed doors.
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Anon
I am not normally a sportsball person, but there is like nothing else going on this year. And some football stuff is good news — female kicker for Vandy, random Pittsburgh people claiming to be in “meetings” during the day during the workweek, etc.
Can someone explain why Buffalo (no $, tiny media market, not a big city) is so much better than the Jets?
anon
Ha, I’ll bite! NFL salary cap helps with parity and makes it hard for teams to stay on top. Beyond that, poor management, coaching, and drafting decisions can really sink a team. For example, a rookie contract (for a drafted player) is 4 years. Even for top draft picks, those contracts are cheap for teams. If you draft poorly 3-4 years in a row, you’re stuck being bad because you don’t have the salary cap space to pay good veterans, and you don’t have trade value for the players you’ve developed. Similarly, if you overpay a veteran free agent, you’re stuck with a salary cap hit even if you cut him, so you can’t just replace that player with someone better. And if your coaches are known as terrible to play with, or you have an overall losing culture, it’s hard to attract good free agents without overpaying them.
I don’t know the Jets well enough to know specifics, but I’d hazard a guess that a true Jets fan could point to several misses in the last few drafts, some overpaid free agent signings, and some bad luck with injuries.
I’m not a huge Bills fan either, but I do know that Josh Allen is playing in his third year of his rookie contract and is playing among the top QBs in the NFL right now. That’s a great deal for the Bills, but they’re going to have to pay up after this year (common to extend in the last year of a rookie contract) or next. They traded for Stefon Diggs, which seems to have worked out well. The rest of the team seems to be built out of free agency, which is unusual but a luxury you can afford when you have a QB on a rookie contract. They’ll have to make tough decisions about those free agents once they extend Josh Allen, and if their draft picks don’t pan out, they’ll face a significant slump. They have a good coach, though, and he started in scouting, so they may have drafted really well.
Anon
Or for the $ they throw at things, why are teams like the Washington Football Team better (I know they are tops in their division right now, but come on, they are routine underperformers). I wish they’d draft me — for the $ it would take for me to play poorly, they’d save a ton of $ and be no worse off.
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Anonymous
Has anyone tried Celexa? My doctor is suggesting it but would love random internet strayer thoughts too. I loved Wellbutrin but it didn’t agree with my body so need something else.
Anonymous
I took it ~20 years ago. I had previously been on Prozac and switched to Celexa. I responded much better to Celexa and suffered fewer (but not no) side effects. I was not on it for long before quitting cold turkey. Then I went back on it briefly again about a year later and realized about a week in that it was actually making me smile. That is an endorsement. That said, I went off it pretty shortly thereafter because I did not feel like I needed it anymore and I have not taken anything since.
Anon
My husband has been using it a long time and it’s been great for him. Everyone is really different, though.
pugsnbourbon
Been on mostly citalopram (generic celexa) for the last ~6 years. I have anxiety and depression, but the anxiety is worse (if that makes sense). I find that my moods are more stable overall on citalopram. Slight dip in gardening drive but still able to “get there.” No weight changes as far as I can tell, and no other negative side effects. Discontinuation is a doozy but not as bad as trying to get off duloxetine.
Curious
+1 to all of this.
Curious
Oh, except only 2 years.
Curious
And I suppose I’ve gained weight that I could lazily blame on Celexa, but I think it’s more eating habits. Under 10 lbs over 2 years and that includes COVID.
Anon
Well, I liked Wellbutrin and hated Celexa (all the usual SSRI reasons). So I would say they are very different.
Anonymous
It was terrible for me (weight gain, no s- drive, barely any improve in mood) and wellbutrin worked amazingly for me. Perhaps you’re my reverse-twin?
Anonia
I used it for about 4 years to help with anxiety, but switched to Effexor XR over a decade ago and haven’t looked back. Celexa made me gain weight and eat like crazy.
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