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Workwear sales of note for 3.24.23:
- Ann Taylor – 40% off everything
- Athleta – 20% off shorts, swim, linen & more
- Banana Republic Factory – 40% off everything; extra 15% off purchase
- Boden – Up to 50% off
- Brooks Brothers – Clearance styles to 70% off. Some pretty serious markdowns!
- Express – 40% off dresses & tops
- J.Crew – 25% off your purchase; up to 50% off special-occasion styles
- J.Crew Factory – Up to 50% off everything; extra 15% off 3 styles; extra 20% off 4 styles; extra 50% off clearance
- Sephora – Up to 50% off select beauty
- Talbots – 25% off select styles; 25% off markdowns
Some of our latest posts here at Corporette…
And some of our latest threadjacks here at Corporette (reader questions and commentary) — see more here!
- What are your favorite parts of a typical day?
- At what point in your life (age, income level, whatever) were you able to take an annual vacation?
- What shoes can I keep at the office to go for mid-day walks (that go with everything)?
- How do you release stress or trauma that’s stored in the body?
- What are the best “networking for women events” you’ve ever been to?
- I feel like we’re burning through any savings we acquire…
- I hate my job and make 30% of what DH makes – should I quit?
- What do you keep in your office?
Threadjack: Any pottery barn lovers out there? I’m trying to decide on a bedroom set. I’ve narrowed it down to either the Hudson bed or the Farmhouse bed without the posts. Does anyone have one of these beds? Any recommendations? Is it really worth $3400 for a bed and a dresser? I hate spending money, but this is something we will try to keep for the next 15 to 20 years probably…right?
Doesn’t seem too high to me, but have you looked around? Not sure where you are, but there are some fabulous places around NoVa and the DC Metro area where you can get great stuff if you want to drive a bit. This place has a big store in Farmville, but also one closer in in Manassas. http://greenfront.com/
I’ve looked around at some local stores (small southern town, far from DC unfortunately) , but I really love those two pottery barn beds! I just can’t decide on which one.. The Hudson bed has a much much higher headboard, which I’m not sure I like, though…
I think furniture at these places (Pottery Barn, Crate & Barrel) is drastically overpriced. When I moved I bought a bedroom set (bed, dresser, two nightstands), a TV stand and two bookcases (all solid wood) and the total was $2500 with delivery and guys who put it together for me. If you are looking to save money, you are much better off going to a place like Ashley or even Raymour & Flannigan. The things might not be as “trendy,” but their furniture is sturdy, good quality, and inexpensive.
I agree with this. I think you’re paying for the name of the store, not the quality of the furniture.
I like the look of a lot of Pottery Barn stuff, but I have to agree that it’s over-priced considering the quality. We considered the Hudson bed, but ultimately decided to buy what I think is a much higher quality bed for only a couple hundred bucks more (at Arhaus, which I think might only be in the mid-west, but I’m sure there are comparable options).
I bought the Stratton Bed with drawers and matching XL dresser and couldn’t be happier. It was pricey, but very high quality. It took a while to get shipped, but definitely worth it. The dresser was slightly damaged (small dent about the size of the top third of my pinky on the top) when I got it and I got a whole new dresser for free.
For a small 1br apt, I loved the storage space of the Stratton.
My biggest beef with Pottery Barn is that a lot of their furniture is veneered, which isn’t as good quality and won’t last nearly as long as solid wood furniture. (When you see “solid wood frame”, that means the parts that aren’t the frame are likely veneer.)
Craigslist often has Pottery Barn/Crate and Barrel type furniture posted for fractions of the in-store prices. Alternatively, if you want new furniture, I think World Market has comparable quality to Pottery Barn for half or a third of the price (www.worldmarket.com).
I would add to this list Room and Board.
Seconded. We did our guest bedroom in all Room and Board–it’s 100% wood, made in the United States, durable and beautiful. The price is equal to the quality and craftsmanship. I haven’t found the same with PB or C&B and won’t buy from them.
LOVE Room and Board!! Fantastic quality and all made in the USA.
Really? You think World Market is as good quality as PB? Not arguing, I have no idea about the quality of either. I’ve always liked the look of WM furniture, but hesitated to buy because of quality concerns. Do you think they are on a par with, say IKEA?
I don’t think Pottery Barn is that high quality – and I think WM easily equals it. I have a few tables and other odds and ends from WM that are great quality, IMO. And WM definitely exceeds IKEA.
WM does make most of their funiture from funky hardwoods in India and other Asian companies so I do have concerns about their environmental impact.
I have the really big Farmhouse Dresser, which I don’t think they have anymore. Anyway, I absolutely love it. It’s solid wood and super nice. I plan to have it forever. I think it harkens back to the way furniture used to be made. I would recommend against buying something at an Ashley-type place. I don’t think their furniture is nearly as nice or longlasting, and I think it is always better to save up and buy something nicer that you’ll have longer.
If you want solid wood beds, is there an auction near you? I’ve loved furnishing my home at auction — you can get a solid cherry or walnut bedframe and headboard, usually with some great flourishes, for under $200. Plus the auction is just plain fun!
Ideas on where to find eco-friendly bedroom furniture? I’ve looked at the local secondhand stores and I’m not feeling up to braving Craigslist, so I’m hoping for new, green materials type stuff. Even better if the materials are reclaimed!
Wooden Duck in Berkeley California has pre-made pieces, all of reclaimed wood or can do custom work.
They have a showroom and twice yearly sales, with prices comparable to major furniture retailers. I commissioned a large (120×60) table from them done with reclaimed wood from the old Levi-Strauss factory in SF. As part of it, I got to choose style, size, leaves, stain, finishing and see it in each stage of production. It was a wild experience, and I love that now I have a signature one-of-a-kind piece with historical significance.
This is the first response I’ve ever posted on here! I do so because I was in LOVE with the Hudson collection at PB but ultimately decided that even though it was an investment set I would have for a long time, I didn’t want to get duped into being over-charged. I found a collection at Macy’s that was had a very similar feel to the Hudson Collection – unfortunately, they don’t have my exact set anymore, but they do have the set linked below which is another very similar one I considered (its called the Westport bedroom collection if the link doesn’t work). The furniture is great quality and they delivered and set everything up for me. I do not regret my choice and all – I have gorgeous furniture and saved a bundle.
I like that Westport collection, but I really want a darker wood.
It looks a lot like the sort of bed my boyfriend was shopping for. He ended up with the Stanley City Club Barrister Bed http://bit.ly/fQi4dk . He found it at 50% off (grand opening sale at a local place). It might be another brand to consider.
Part of the appeal to him about Stanley, aside from the solid wood construction, is that its made in Virginia – so made in the USA.
Anon in Ny
Just an FYI – if you really love the furniture at Macy’s (or similar places) try to find out the designer/manufacturer. I found out the bedroom set I loved at Macys was made by Shermag, and after some quick googling found a NC furniture store that sold the same set for about 60% less.
The shipping was a little more expensive than it would have been for Macy’s but still very reasonable. North Carolina is known for their furniture and the majority of the distributors are only too happy to ship.
My friend made that bed and she said it was really easy. I made a different one and it was fun.
Isn’t a Dolman sleeve one that is really wide at the shoulder and tapers in at the cuff? These look more like cut-off kimono sleeves.
Also, Target selections have been featured so much (maybe not recently) that, at this point, is it time to just have a standing recommendation for Merona/Mossimo selections for inexpensive workwear?
This is def. not a dolman sleeve. Among other things it is way too short. As is this dress. Which is probably only right because a dress with a neckline like that needs to be balanced by a shorter hemline, but that also means that this is not really an office dress, at least as far as I am concerned. Looks much more like something to wear on a tropical vacation lunch/dinner.
I was in Target recently and took an admittedly brief look at their clothing section, and aside from some nice, basic tees, I was very unimpressed with the quality of their stuff. A lot of it I recognized from having been featured here, actually, and it looked terrible — thin fabrics, sloppy threads, etc. I think you can definitely find great stuff there at times, but I would never buy online because it is just too unreliable.
Well said, AIMS. I agree.
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Likewise. The fit tends to be unreliable at best, as well. I have basically given up on Target for clothes.
I looked up the website and the dresses are polyester/rayon … I don’t know why I can’t get myself to wear synthetic fabric but that is always the first check I do on any garment (except gym wear).
There are tons of dresses online that aren’t available in stores . . . while this one isn’t for me, I’ve found some amazing dresses – like a herringbone sheath dress and a dark blue wool dress – that are now staples in my work wardrobe. I buy a few sizes (which tends to bump you up to free shipping if you get say, two dresses in two sizes), then return everything that doesn’t work to the Target store.
I will say that the herringbone sheath dress was a nice quality. I returned it (far too short on me to be work appropriate) but I can see how it would be a great office staple for someone shorter.
Agree with AIMS; in general, I have not been tempted to buy any of Target’s clothing. Hence my somewhat tongue-in-cheek suggestion for a “standing recommendation” for Target’s “bargain” clothes so that we can clear some space for some more original ideas!
Definitely agree – their online selection is huge, and often of far better quality, than what is in-store.
It can be hit-or-miss with both quality and fit, but I don’t mind ordering a bunch of stuff online and then returning what doesn’t fit or looks too cheap in-store. Given that I’ve found some of my favorite, most long-lasting wardrobe staples there for well under $30, its worth it to me.
I’ve purchased a few things from Target online and it has been hit or miss. I got a great Mossimo pencil skirt that is lined and fits perfectly, but other stuff I have had to return.
As for this dress, I love a dress with pockets, but I don’t think the sleeves would be flattering on me.
I agree that Target’s quality can be hit or miss, but I have gotten some nice items there. I probably have the same pencil skirt as Sydney Bristow and love it. I also have a boyfriend cardigan that I really like and a ruffle front short-sleeved button down that is nice. I’ve looked at their sheath dresses too and love them, but they’re too short. I really like this dress and it would be perfect for my business casual office but again, it looks so short! UGH.
Agree with quality at Target really varying. That said, I think they have really improved a lot over the past year. I’ve gotten some great lined dresses there recently that I frequently wear and absolutely LOVE. They have held up to machine washing way better than some similar dresses purchaed at LOFT. I actually enjoy seeing some Target picks in the Corporette rotation, as it’s not somewhere I usually clothes shop and has kind of prodded me to give it a try and out of some of my brand snobbishness. Also helping I suppose is that the Target store I go to is in a pretty nice area, so perhaps the selection may be a bit better. At least it seems that way. I haven’t seen nearly as nice things when I’ve popped into the one near where I work (a brand new store that is in a pretty ick suburb).
I agree with you on Target. I don’t usually think of it when I’m shopping for clothes, but I’ve found some nice items there. I love their double layer tshirts in summer, and I’ve picked up some nice dresses and skirts from time to time. I’m actually tempted to try this dress in the cactus green. It wouldn’t work at my office, but I live in skirts and casual dresses in the summer.
Cute dress, but still not shopping at Target. I just cannot support them given the birth control, plan B, and now anti-gay stances they overtly take. Bummer, as they do seem to have inexpensive and cute things.
It is my understanding that Target itself does not have an anti-gay stance, it gives money to politicians who have an anti-gay stance. Is that correct or was there something I missed?
This article has some updated information about the boycott due to the political contributions:
You’re right that Target doesn’t seem to have donated BECAUSE of the anti-gay stance, but still donated to groups/campaigns that are viewed as anti-LGBT.
It seems like Target donated to a Republican who supports some anti-gay groups, and then as soon as there was backlash Target immediately backed down. I’m really liberal but not shopping at Target for one incident that Target immediately worked to rectify – they should be applauded for that.
Also, this sentence: “His [the Republican to whom Target donated] campaign had also donated to the anti-gay ministry You Can Run But You Cannot Hide International ….”
Oh my. That is one scary name for a ministry.
I get what you are saying, but a pattern of situations over the years where they then have to back down suggests more than an oops. Plus, it was not so much backing down–it was ignoring a huge internet and otherwise campaign and then reluctantly issuing a non apology.
After the initial backlash they donated to the same group again.
FYI, according to an article on Jezebel this morning, Target has just established a new political donations policy in hopes of avoiding similar future problems:
I don’t think Target’s political donations were made because the candidates were anti-gay. The donations were made because the candidates supported Target’s tax and other business policies, which, being big-business corporate America, likely means Republicans, which likely means anti-gay candidates.
To me, this is very different than supporting candidates expressly because they are anti-gay and becuase you want those issues to be forwarded. Politicians and issues don’t exist in a vaccum.
When I compare this to the pro-gay things Target has done, including same-sex benefits (which are still insanely rare), and look at my shopping alternatives and their records, Target still comes out on top for me.
I think there is a big difference to supporting a candidate who comes out anti-gay and having policies that are anti-gay. I’ll reserve my boycotts for those who actually have anti-gay policies. There’s just too many politicians that have disappointed me to feel like it is fair to hold all of their supporters to equal blame and honestly too many positions politicians hold to single out a supporter for backing just one (I know I don’t always agree with EVERY stance of thoe I’ve voted for). IMHO, it’s better to put energies into fighting injustice directly. Go after those who actively hold the opposing view or are engaging in anti-gay practices.
I suppose that to me there’s not a significant distinction in effect between supporting a politician because he’s anti-gay or a politician who happens to be anti-gay. There’s a difference in intent on the part of the corporation, but the net result continues to be that a politician receives money which enables him to continue to oppose gay rights. For me, that’s not ethically acceptable, but we all have to draw these lines for ourselves (for example, Obama opposes gay marriage, but I voted for him, because there wasn’t a better option).
What’s their birth control stance??
They were permitting pharmacists to refuse to fill prescriptions for a while, thus leaving a lot of low income women with few or no alternatives. They then extended the same policy to Plan B.
First, I want to say that I do not think that permitting pharmacists to refuse to fill prescriptions for BC is okay.
That being said, I’m confused as to why this leaves a lot of low income women with few or no alternatives. If my Target refused to fill my BC prescription, I’d take it to the CVS a few blocks away. Is the argument that many of these women live in areas where they aren’t as many pharmacy options, or that they don’t have reliable transportation to get to them, and therefore Target is really “it”? That would make sense.
Again – not filling prescriptions = wrong. I just feel like I’m missing some information that would help me understand why it leaves women high and dry w/o alternatives, in addition to just royally pissed off.
Yes, I think the problem is that some people live in areas where Target is literally the only pharmacy and these women had no other options, plus when you consider that Plan B is more effective the sooner it’s taken, driving 40 miles to another pharmacy is not just an annoyance – it could be the difference between the drug being effective or you being pregnant. That said, as I noted below, the only information I was able to find was from 2005. Unless someone can show me something more current, I’m going to place this in my overblown-conspiracy-theories file.
Like Anonymous above, I totally disagree with the policy of not filling a prescription.
However, it was my understanding that the way these policies worked is typically that one pharmacist might refuse but someone else working there would take it. I do wonder how many people have actually been unable to fill a prescription in a timely matter as a result of this (assuming this is even still their practice).
Many women live in areas where Target and Walmart are it in terms of pharmacies. You can drive an hour and a half from DC and be in that situation. Likewise, in many poor, urban areas, the same situation is true.
I live in a lower income neighborhood in Chicago and Target is the closest and only pharmacy within walking distance of my home. I can see how my neighbors might have trouble finding a substitute pharmacy – especially if they do not have the internet at home or are less informed and active about their rights.
Remember, many women are scared to ask for Plan B, so if they are rejected once, they might not seek a second provider. For some women (b/c of cultural, age, education, or religious reasons) it can be shameful and embarrassing to seek out Plan B.
That said, in Chicago all pharmacies have a sign that states that pharmacists are not allowed (by law) to deny filling a Rx. I don’t know if people read this sign and will demand service, but in Illinois it is illegal to deny a woman Plan B if she has an Rx.
Source? Are you conflating Wal*Mart and Target?
I do remember reading about this years ago, when PLan B was first put on the market. Target, and may other companies, allowed pharmacists to choose wether or not they would fill these presscriptions. So if a pharmacist was anti-choice and didn’t want to fill the prescription, you were out of luck. So, in some stores, it could be hit-or-miss depending on who was on duty when you went in.
Honestly, I go back and forth on the issue, because I do see the other side as well. Doctors, for instance, aren’t required to prescribe Plan B, and some doctors won’t. And companies were concerned that if they required their pharmacists to prescribe it, they would open themselves up to lawsuits from pharmacists who felt they couldn’t prescribe it for religious reasons.
I think the whole thing might be moot, since now, a prescription is not even required for Plan B, and I don’t know what the policy is.
i am kind of of the mind that if you know that your religion will preclude you from performing some of the very basic duties of your job (not that all pharmacists do is fill prescriptions, but it’s certainly a very important part of their jobs), you should probably not have picked it as your career.
Zelda I’m pro choice but I don’t think pro-life pharmacists view it as part of the “basic duties of their job”
filling prescriptions written by doctors IS a part of their job, though, and it doesn’t seem right to me that a pharmacist can decide whether or not to provide plan b/other birth control to a patient just because of their religious or personal beliefs.
while they personally might not think that women should have access to plan b or hormonal birth control in general, they are legal medications and i don’t see why they should be treated any differently than others. would we think it was ok for a pharmacist to deny HIV medications to a patient that he/she assumed was gay, if their religion considered homosexuality a sin? what about a pharmacist who refused to fill a viagra prescription for an unmarried man? (wait, that wouldn’t happen, would it)
sorry if that sounded short, CfM – i know we’re in agreement here, it’s just frustrating to me that anti-choice advocates can even argue that filling a prescription (no matter what it is for) is part of the job duties of a pharmacist.
sorry! meant “is NOT part of”
Completely understand what you are saying, and I don’t think the argument holds up, I’m just saying what’s going through their head and why they might still become a physician even knowing that some people want to get those prescriptions filled.
So you are saying that a pro-life person either cannot be a physician or pharmacist, despite having a calling and passion to help people, or must let go of their principles? I completely disagree. I would assume you have never been put in that position, so it’s pretty easy for you to say that. Just because you think these people are wrong doesn’t mean that they shouldn’t have become a doctor.
we might have to agree to disagree, Anon – i think it is absolutely fine for a doctor or pharmacist to be morally against abortion, and to choose not to perform such procedures. in fact, provider conscience laws cited in the article posted by nonA below have had such measures in place for decades.
however, i don’t understand why being morally against abortion should automatically translate into being morally against contraceptives (which in theory, prevent abortions from happening). plan b is not an abortifacient so i don’t understand why being morally opposed to abortion should dictate whether or not a pharmacist dispenses it.
I just tried googling but if you google “target birth control” you don’t exactly get on-topic results. I only found information from 2005 which said that pharmacists refused to fill prescriptions for Plan B, and it seems that there has been no news since then. If in fact that’s true, I really can’t fault Target for that – it happened six years ago and at the time there was a huge debate about Plan B.
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My understanding is that, at least a few years ago, some states had laws that gave pharmacists the legalright to refuse to provide these kinds of prescriptions according to their personal beliefs. Not sure if a company could make it part of a job requirement that you give up that right.
Breaking news very much on topic: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/02/18/AR2011021803251.html?wpisrc=nl_natlalert
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Speaking of big career transitions per the post yesterday, this is the last day I will be “surrounded by lawyers.” Cleaning out my office now…and I’m taking a big leap, wish me luck! Like Formerly Preggo Annie, I guess I will have to change my Corporette “name” too, to fit the circumstances…
I’m here all the time because the sense of community is incredibly helpful. Thanks to all.
who will you be surrounded by now?
Oh, and good luck, of course!!
Good luck! Any thoughts on the new name? If I might make a suggestion, will you put your old name in parentheses next to your new one for awhile?
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Sure! I wasn’t sure anyone would care, but why not? “The Commenter Formerly Known as Surrounded By Lawyers.” j/k
Of course, we care! Good luck!!
What are you transitioning into?
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Thanks, AIMS! Transitioning back, I guess, to be more precise. Full-time academic research/writing, which is where I came from. Hopefully teaching as well–I’ve missed it more than I thought I would.
That sounds very exciting! I think teaching, and academia generally, can be really rewarding as a career (my dad spent his whole career teaching and writing, and loved it). I am sure you will do great in your new venture. Congrats on doing what you want to do!
Ditto. We absolutely care! Best of luck transitioning back to academia and doing what you want to do!
Funny – if you keep posting here you will still be surrounded by lawyers. I thought that was the reason for your moniker anyway.
Best wishes for whatever is coming next for you.
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Ha! It was actually one-third of the reason for my moniker. I work with all lawyers, all my local friends are lawyers, and then when I started reading Corporette I noticed that most of the commenters here seemed to be lawyers too! I do not have a JD (I have a PhD), so it was kind of a joke to myself. “Once again, surrounded by lawyers!” But it’s kind of a clunky name anyway–I just kept it this long for continuity.
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P.S. Absolutely no offense meant to lawyers. Obviously I love y’all!
Congratulations, TCFKASBL!! I don’t comment much but I’m here all the time, and I love your thoughtful comments. Hope the new job is wonderful!!
Congrats on leaving!
I told someone that recently, and I think he was a little stunned because no one had congratulated him before on leaving a job. But I think it takes a lot of courage to give up a sure thing and go out into the world – into something new, whether you know what your job will be or not.
Either way, keep us updated. :)
Congratulations! Hope you get more teaching in very soon since you have missed it . . . .
I love the color of that dress… not so sure about the fit.
On an unrelated side note … I moved to the South from Michigan a couple of years ago, so I still haven’t completely adjusted to the (wonderful) warmer weather. I was getting dressed this morning and put on lined dress pants and a long-sleeved button-down…
… and went outside to discover it was already 60 degrees at 8am. Best Friday in a long time!!
I am in the South, and I cannot express how happy I was earlier this week when I got to do my morning run in shorts!
Bring on the spring!!!
you’re making me miss home and the two-month-long “winters” where 40 was considered cold. Now I get excited when the high is 42 in early February, and that’s just sad.
Enjoy the warm weather:-)
I’m glad you’re happy; I went from the Northeast to the South and hated every minute of it.
I love cold and gloom, though.
I know, it’s been fantastic! I love my sandals.
That said, though, if you’re a new transplant, don’t get your hopes up too much. At least around here (TN), we’ll have at least one if not two more “crashes” of bone-chilling cold before April.
Excellent point Lyssa! Our 10-day forecast has some lows in the 30s next week. Boooo!
Now you made me look, and ours does, too. Boooooo!
(But, on the plus side, it gives me a chance to wear a cute skirt suit and boots to my depo next week. We’ve decided that the opposing counsel has a woman problem (OK, he might just be an ass (he definitely is an ass), but he really jumped down my throat when I attempted to speak while defending one last week, and BS’d some completely bogus rule that I couldn’t ask questions), so I’ve decided to look as aggressively feminine as possible when I encounter him from now on.)
Haha! I’m on the Florida gulf coast. I went to lunch with a couple co-workers and when we got outside one of them commented that it wasn’t just WARM, it was border-line HOT.
In PHX last weekend, I needed the a/c on in the car…it was almost 80. Please come and see us for Spring Training!
Looking for Corporettes TKA and Richmond Temporarily
I posted back in Wednesday’s thread asking about how to make new friends as an adult. Thanks so much for all of your suggestions. I’m attending a Junior League information session next week, and I have plans to meet one of the Richmond Corporettes who responded.
There were two other ladies who responded, but I think I posted my email address too late for them to see. TKA and Richmond Temporarily (and any other Richmond Corporettes), I would love to chat. My email address is peacocktulips at gmail.
Thanks for re-posting! Got busy with work the past few days ;-) Will send you something soon.
That dress looks like a smock you’d put on when you see the doctor. I can just imagine the flapping around that’s going on in the back.
That’s quite an image! :)
Threadjack – I just booked a trip to Las Vegas in early April, where I am going to be meeting my boyfriend’s parents for the first time. It’s a vacation for everyone (they live in the Midwest), and we’re going to be staying on the Strip and doing Vegas-y things.
Does anyone have advice on what I should wear in Vegas at that time of year? I live in the frigid Northeast, so spring/summer clothes sound like a faraway dream to me. I’ve also never been there, so I have no idea how casual it is. And on top of that, I’m going to be Meeting The Parents. Any ideas?
Vegas = Party wear! Seriously, when I was there, most of the girls looked like they wore clubwear all the time. Maybe because they were in partying state of mind. :)
You can not go wrong with nice dresses and carry a lightweight cardigan or jacket for cooler evenings. Also walkable shoes with stilletoes to wear when you are inside.
Anon in Ny
It will be warm during the day, but definitely cool at night. And if you’re staying at a hotel on the strip (and will be inside) pack cardigans! I swear, the last time I was in Vegas for work it was June and I was wearing my wool suit it was so darn over air-conditioned inside. They keep those Casinos like meat lockers. Also, wear comfortable(ish) shoes for walking – the hotels are really large inside and you’ll be walking around plenty.
Also, I found the malls in Vegas to be a goldmine for work-wear. Apparently its there are very few business formal offices there, so I was able to stock up on suits at the Ann Taylors/Jcrews/etc. because so few people bought them!
It should be pretty comfortable temp-wise – so think dresses and cardigans… my go to for vegas trips is usually dif variations on the little black dress look (with sandals during the day, heels at night, etc.). Most of the time for the touristy stuff on the Strip you’re in doors and they keep the casinos very climate controlled – so it’ll feel low 70s… The vibe clothes-wise (and fwiw I’m 27 and go to vegas somewhat regularly with folks in the same age group who go from nice restaurants to bars/clubs) is more dress to impress in the evening (think dress and heels) and resort casual during the day (I usually go with a black maxi dress and gold minimal sandals or skinny jeans, a floaty top and ballet flats). Some things to keep in mind everyone smokes everywhere (or at least to it seems that way to me – since you really can’t smoke in public places in LA) – so bring stuff that you wont mind having get smelly from cig smoke, it’s going to be crazy dry so bring lots of lotion, and you’ll be doing a lot of walking so bring comfy shoes. Check out the monorail system that goes along the Strip and has stations in some of the casinos or be prepared to take taxis (I think you take the monorail from the airport actually). Also for your bf – some places won’t let guys in if they’re wearing jeans or sneakers – so if there is some place you’re dying to go check the dress code. A fun parents activity might be to see a show if they’re into that – my parents went recently and saw Lion King and my husband and I saw Spamalot a while ago – you can usually find good show tickets online.
another pendleton happy customer
Ordered one of their stretch wool suits off clearance and a simple merino wool sweater. Good deal, well made, comfortable. Sigh. Happy.
Love their stuff! Last forever.
I just made my first Pendleton purchase and was extremely happy. A beautiful, well-made silk blouse.
In contrast, I just purchased a silk blouse from Talbots that is already (first wearing) covered with loose threads. I got it on final clearance for $21 and love the color, but seriously, Talbots, why have you forsaken us with your crappy, low-quality stuff? I miss old Talbots.
The neckline on this one is too high and severe, IMHO. meh.
Jeggings @ work in Social Q’s:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/20/fashion/20Social.html?_r=1&adxnnl=1&ref=fashion&adxnnlx=1298048918-Xh+dl8snmZ8vULWsP3RH2Q Just thought I’d share.
I saw that! Ridiculous that someone would wear jeggings to a law firm, in my opinion. And it’s true that people who tell you that you’re dressed inappropriately are really doing you a favor because more often that not, people just talk about it behind your back. But really, does anyone need to tell you not to wear jeans to work? Let alone jeggings?
I instantly thought of corporette when I read this too!!
I agree with the answer: caring enough to correct behavior is the sign of a boss who’s invested in you. Letting you get the reputation as “the associate who wears jeggings” is way worse.
Yes, I thought that answer about the boss actually caring about the employee was good and was something that’s been said on corporette before.
(I messed up the original post, some=somewherecold.)
Anon for this one
Need some advice and to vent.
I’m a 10th year litigation associate in complex civil litigation. Not yet partner but on the track. I’m the only woman in the group. I’m well-liked and all systems are go for partnership based on my reviews.
Less than a year ago we hired a senior lateral (“Joe”) to join our group (30 year attorney). Joe is…. gross. He leers. Divored thrice. I’ve even adapted my wardrobe to lessen the leering. I hate working with him. Not to mention he’s a walking malpractice disaster and his clients don’t pay their bills. I have a contact in the community who warned me of all of this, but by the time I found out he was being brought in, the deal was done. We have a relatively young group and the thought was we needed more gray hair.
Anyhow, I’m swamped with my case load, including some of my own clients, and I have been begging for an associate. I want a 4-5th year with experience, dedication, and who will take work from me.
Joe wants to bring over “Betty,” who he says is terrific and just what we need. Trouble is that Betty is a 9th year attorney who is unhappy with the
low-level work” at her current firm and wants more of a challenge. Bottom line is she is unlikely to want to take my work.
Why is Joe so hot on Betty? Turns out she’s the Big Boobs Tight Sweater type. My intel also says she doesn’t meet billable hours, is a huge schmoozer, and wears such purposefully low-cut tops that it is literally difficult to be in the same room with her because you can’t help but stare (which explains why Joe wants her here).
I’ve expressed my concern about delegating work to her, but I’m being outvoted (all by men, who have met Betty and think she’s “great”). Joe says he has lots of work to give her and truthfully, we are swamped.
There’s nothing I can really do about it. I’m just feeling down. This morning I put a sweater on that was slightly low-cut and I just felt icky. I added a shell. This woman doesn’t even work here and I have no realistic basis to judge her on, but I already don’t like her. And now I’m supposed to give her work.
Give her work! In writing, every time. If you assign it in person, send a confirmatory email. At least then you can point out whether she is/isn’t helping. And as a 10th year, if the partners you work with aren’t respecting you, it’s time to move.
Oh, this is my favorite handle yet!
Honestly, where are you getting this information from on Betty? She may be all you say and more, but your intel sounds like two women being super catty. At least give her a chance before you try to squash her career change. You given one legitimate reason for opposing her: not meeting her billables. Schmoozing is not a reason to hate someone, and we know that not all women read corporette. She may definitely be as bad as you think, but this post just made me sad. Give her work, it will help your caseload, and at least give her a shot before trying to crush her career move.
Goodness me, how will you cope if she’s actually good at her job AND attractive AND good at networking?
Joe’s motives may be ulterior, but hers are probably not. Try not to start off your new work relationship with a load of catty gossip about her in your mind.
LOVE the handle!
I agree with commenters above to AT LEAST let her try, especially since you seem to be quite out-numbered. Digging in your heels about hiring this woman only runs the risk of making you look like a catty b*tch (which I’m not saying you’re actually being). Give her work and let her try to help you, and if she doesn’t perform then her failure is on her own head.
I can’t wait for Corporette meetups. I especially can’t wait for “What should I wear to my upcoming Corporette meetup?” threads.
Anon in Ny
Haha, is it sad that I had that exact same thought the other night? Along the lines of ‘oh gee, I should really take care with my outfit for the corporette meet-ups’!
Are we having an NYC meetup? Please do! It would be lovely to meet all of you — particularly now that weather is nice again.
resume advice threadjack
Hi Ladies – would love your input on this.
I am a 3L looking for a job in consumer litigation (plaintiff side). I have a couple relevant internships.
I am wondering if/how I should list my attendance at a four-day conference hosted by one of the major organizations in the field. According to several people I have talked to, this conference is a Big Deal and “any one who’s anyone in consumer law goes to this conference.” I attended sessions on all four days. I believe I can list all the sessions I attended but I might miss some. And, some of them were just speech-by-noted-person-during-meal type things.
1) Does this belong on my resume at all?
2) If so, should I create a new section titled something like “professional trainings” or try to fit it into my catchall “additional experience” or “education” section?
3) how should it be formatted? EG:
“[Organization]: Litigation Conference: Attended sessions on abc, xyz, 123, etc.”
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated! Also, should I list my current spring courses? (since some of them are directly relevant to positions I am applying for).
Not sure, but some or possibly all of this might be better in a cover letter where you are laying out your interest in the field.
But, if its the kind of situation where you don’t think they’ll read a cover letter, I think that your relevant courses can be included as a bullet point under your law school degree (Something along the lines of Took courses in ….).
As for the conference, I think I’d put it under “Other Relevant Experience” or possibly the “Relevant Trainings” section. But, if its the sort of thing where your resume is going to go past a page because of it — I’d leave it off. That’s just me though.
I am in consumer law as well (until next week, yay new job!) and I think I attended the same conference you did. I agree with the previous poster that the fact that you attended the conference, as well as your relevant coursework, belongs in a cover letter demonstrating interest in the position and not on your resume. If there are particular sessions that are very on point with the job, I *might* call those out in the cover letter.
Also, kudos to you for going to the conference.
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