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I am wondering whether/when to do botox, or something along those lines. I am a hair over 30, and in the past two years, I have started to notice some sagging around my eyes and lips (marionette lines?). I also tend to furrow my brow. This by itself doesn’t bother me, since I think it gives me a bit of character, but I don’t want, 15 years from now, to look wizened, which I fear is where I’m headed, given that I am noticing more wrinkles in my own face than in my friends’. I also don’t want to get progressively more creased, and then suddenly to get botox at maybe 40 and look noticeably younger all of a sudden. (DH has also mentioned that some of his female coworkers have started to “age” in the face…not sure if that is a euphemisim for me or a compliment that they look worse than I do.) I guess what I am looking for (mamabear et al from the last thread) is advice/it-happened-to-me stories on either side of the fence. And if you have recommendations for places to get such treatments in the Chicago area, I would love those as well. And no, I didn’t wear sunscreen in my “youth,” and yes, I do wear moisturizer with SPF now.
A few thoughts for you and anyone else considering it:
1) Decide where you sit on the whole “natural aging is beautiful” etc. debate. If you’re considering botox, sounds like you’re not willing to let nature have its way 100%, but a lot of detractors will tell you that wrinkles make you more beautiful, botox looks unnatural and all that. If you want to get botox, own it. It’s not all that different from waxing, piercing, and other things that women and men do for the sake of our appearance.
2) When done correctly, botox can be very natural looking. There are definitely botox junkies out there who bring on the catwoman comparisons but most women who get it look the same, just with fewer or no lines on the forehead or wherever it is.
3) Each treatment lasts 2-4 months, so you can try it and see what you think, and not get it again if you don’t like the result. You can also start with a certain area of the face and gradually transition to other areas if you want to, or start with a smaller dosage and work your way up.
4) If you’re already noticing some semi-permanent lines in your forehead, say, botox can help smooth those out and prevent them from becoming deeper and more permanent.
5) Your marionette lines may respond better to fillers than to botox.
6) If you decide to get it, go to a proper plastic surgeon.
Sunscreen is important, and I’d also suggest using an antioxidant. I use a moisturizer and sunscreen with antioxidants, Clinique Solar Smart SPF 30, every morning and an antioxidant serum from Paula’s Choice around my eye area nightly. So far, so good – I’m also 30 and no wrinkles at all. It won’t cure your current wrinkles, but it seems that research shows antioxidants will help prevent more wrinkles.
Here’s an article about antioxidants:
I have no thoughts on Botox, since I’ve never tried it.
Along those lines, any recommendations for a good eye cream with antioxidants?
And thanks for freaking me out guys. I’m 27, just starting to see fine lines around my eyes and the corners of my mouth (especially when my skin is dry). And I have crap skin- oily, sensitive, acne-prone, and super fair (red marks take weeks to fade, even on differin). I have no doubt that wrinkles will be headed my way in due time.
The one I use from Paula’s Choice is the antioxidant serum from the skin balancing line. It can be used all over your face, but I just use it around the eyes and sometimes around my lips. I also like Clinique All About Eyes, which helps reduce puffiness and is super moisturizing.
Thanks for the recs- I went on a bit of a Paula’s Choice shopping spree last night!
I’m in the same boat, and anxious to hear comments. In addition, I frown/concentrate in my sleep, leaving a deep “11” between my eyes. On the one hand, this is a great reason to get Botox. On the other, I’m a little nervous about getting Botox and finding it makes it difficult for me to sleep because of some odd sensation/headache caused by my muscles trying to work but being unable. Legitimate concern or completely ridiculous?
I have had Botox for the “11’s” and there is no sensation that my muscles are trying to work. As a matter of fact, it’s the opposite. Even when the Botox wears off, I frown less, I guess because I’m out of the habit.
I’ve done limited botox, between the brows, four times now. Started at 40 after seeing the ‘frown lines’ in a christmas photo I was SMILING in! The first time, actually, I did have a very slight headache for the first month… it seemed like I DID feel my muscles trying, but not being able, to work! That faded rather quickly though… now, like some others, I no longer have the frown ‘habit’. I love it, both for the smoothing of the 11s AND for the anti-scowl effect!
I posted this morning about botox. I don’t get it anywhere but my forehead, and only to address the eleven, so I can’t comment on the marionette lines. Though I think maybe that’s a filler rather than a botox issue.
I initially got botox because I didn’t like the vertical creases forming between my eyebrows, and after a lifetime of battling acne, it was just the final straw for me. That and the “what’s wrong?” questions arising from my perma-frown.
Now I get it re-done because I love how I feel when I can’t furrow my brows. I have that (fairly well-documented) psychological side-effect along the lines of smile therapy. It feels calming and soothing and just improves my mood. I know that sounds ridiculous, but of the five women I know that get botox, three of them feel the same way.
And my face does not look frozen in any way. I can raise my eyebrows, or just one eyebrow when my husband is p*ssing me off. I just can’t make a deep, furrowed frown, and I’m perfectly happy to give that up.
I initially went to a plastic surgeon for my botox, but now I’ve switched over to just using my dermatologist because I’m there for acne anyway. She charges me $260. The plastic surgeon charged around $350, but because I enrolled in the Allergan loyalty program, I usually got $25 or $50 off per treatment.
And I agree with anon. I get botox and I own the fact that I do it. I have no shame about it and will pretty much tell anyone about it.
Mamabear, I am curious and don’t mean this in a catty way At.All., but how do you reconcile getting botox with the fact that you are injecting a poison into your body? The main thing that holds me back is the fact that botox has been in use for a relatively short period of time and (as far as I know) there have been no long-term studies done that show the effects of use over a long period. Maybe it is the lawyer in me, but I keep thinking of all the potentially awful things that could happen to me that we don’t even know about yet. How do you deal with this?
I am not Mamabear, but FWIW … yes, botox (or technically, botulinum toxin) can be dangerous to the body in certain amounts and in certain circumstances. The same is true of alcohol, caffeine, nicotine, radiation, and numerous substances present in polluted air and, no doubt, many processed foods that we eat. However, I still drink wine and coffee, I get regular mammograms, I eat processed foods at times and I live in a big smoggy city. And I get botox. My exposure to all of these is controlled and conscious, and driven by the fact that the benefits outweigh the risks, which I consider relatively small and part of the price of living life, to be frank.
There was a case in my jursidiction involving a female doctor who sued Allergan, claiming she contracted botulism from botox injections she received for wrinkles, and won a $15 million judgment. I believe the warnings on the labels were beefed up around this time. Not saying she did or didn’t contract botulism, since I believe that was a hotly contested issue, just saying read the warnings.
I get what you’re saying Nonny. Yes, it’s botulism toxin. Yes, I’m having it injected into my body.
I’m an actuary and I think about risk all the time, for a living. I think we as humans, particularly in the western hemisphere, tend to overestimate small risks, like taking a flight or getting botox, and underestimate large risks, like obesity, driving a car and personal safety. Not to mention sports risks.
I am comfortable with the small risk I’m taking with botox. And I always wear my seatbelt. :)
And since you’re an attorney, Nonny, don’t you feel like the tort system in this country weeds out a lot of risky activity? Like VBACs, for instance. If botox gave people serious health problems, there would probably be several emerging by now, and there would be gigantic lawsuits (other than the one outlier mentioned above.)
mamabear- I’m quite sure Nonny is up in the great white north with me and Jas and viclawstudent, and a few other Canadians.
The tort system in our countries is different, and likely a lot different depending on the area of law. More broadly, people are not nearly as litigious here. They’re just not. Partially because of the fear of costs being awarded against them, but also just culturally. Further, just because there hasn’t been a lawsuit YET doesn’t mean there won’t be one at some point- it often takes a while for things to come to light.
Plus, I would never trust the masses to ensure my health and safety (mostly because general society isn’t that healthy, or that concerned with safety….). The fact that there hasn’t been a lawsuit against “insert activity” doesn’t mean it’s a good idea for me.
For example, I can’t think of a class action against ski resort operators for not enforcing wearing a helmet while skiing or snowboarding (though there is a fun case about waivers and tubing!). But really, you should wear a helmet (or I do, because I sort of like my brain). Regardless of the lack of lawsuit, it’s just a smart idea.
Point taken, Equity’s Darling. I guess it’s a risk/reward equation. Interesting you bring up skiing and snow boarding. That’s one that has never seemed worth the risk to me. I don’t personally know anyone who has died skiing, but just about everyone I know that regularly skis has had major, major injuries – like destroyed knees and even broken vertabrae. But they love skiing and are willing to resume it once their injuries heal!
FWIW, the latent potential mass tort exposure most of us in the industry are concerned about is cell phones.
Anon in SF
Mamabear, I remember you are in San Francisco. Would you mind sharing who you use? I thinking of getting botox too, but it seems like there are a lot of places that do it badly.
I’m happy to recommend Dr. Corey Maas of the Maas clinic in San Francisco, near the – what is that hospital complex called now? I still call it Pacific Presbyterian. If you take a look at his bio, I think you’ll be impressed.
I’m 31 and have been getting Botox between my brows for about 5 years–the lines were already quite evident by the time I was in my mid-20s. When I’ve told people I get Botox, they’re quite surprised because I don’t look fake or plastic. I just can’t furrow my brows anymore. As the Botox wears off, I go right back to furrowing again so I can’t say the injections have helped me break the habit. I used to go every 3 months. Since I left my BigLaw job, I’m going every 4 months–both to save money and because I have fewer reasons to furrow my brow these days :).
I agree with anon–it will only last a few months. Give it a try and if you don’t like it, don’t go back. I’d start with one area at a time so you don’t end up looking fake.
Glad that you brought this up. I’m only 25, but I already notice little creases in my forehead and around my eyes, particularly when I’m sleep deprived (which is always). I can only see them in my bright bathroom lighting up close to the mirror, but I feel like having fine lines at this early age is a terrible sign for my future. Are there other twenty-somethings who are dealing with aging concerns? I feel like my friends still have perfect skin.
I also was not great about wearing sunscreen when I was younger but I always do now. I used to play soccer and now run outside a lot, and I’m wondering if squinting in the sun is exacerbating the aging around my eyes.
Always a NYer
I don’t notice any premature wrinkles but I do have more “white” roots than I should for 23. My great-grandfather was completely white by 24 so my cousins and I are horrified with what that may mean for us. I dye my roots religiously every 4 weeks and my 21 year old male cousin uses Rogaine foam to combat his salt-n-pepper hair. It’s vain, we know, but we’re not ready to embrace the “white,” and don’t know if we ever will be ready =/
I’m right there with you. My dad was totally white when he got married at 24 — I started seeing a ton of gray hairs at 19 (!!!) and am 30 have been coloring my hair for almost 10 years. I actually really hate having to do it, but for now I see now alternative :(
I’m 26 and I’ve noticed lines around my eyes when I’m over-caffeinated and/or dehydrated. It takes a conscious effort on my part to stay hydrated. I also make sure I rub in a thick cream around my eyes with cool fingers (nothing special in particular, just thick, even vaseline sometimes).
Glad you brought this up…I am in a similar situation. Would appreciate recommendations for derms/plastic surgeons in NYC.
(1) Sunscreen every day (on face, and neck, and chest if you can) and
(2) Prescription retinol at night
Even if you have wrinkles now, use both. It will help fix them a bit, and prevent new ones which is even more key.
Can you put retinol on the areas around your eyes (where I have wrinkles)? It seems like that would be pretty harsh for the sensitive skin around the eyes. I have prescription strenght Retin-A for acne that I’m hoping will also prevent wrinkles, but I only put it on my chin, nose and cheeks.
I agree with everyone’s comments about sunscreen (and other sun protection), no smoking, anti-oxidants etc.
However, if you are going to do Botox/Dysport, START NOW.
I started when I was 40 (and looked mid-30s, thanks to my anti-sun routine). I am now 45 and look late-30s. I started with Botox in my crows feet and one pinprick in the arch of the eyebrow so that you could still see my irises when I smiled. I have since added my forehead. It is incredibly natural looking, thanks in large part to my skilled dermatologist. (NB: I would never ever have it done by someone who had not gone to medical school, and I’m not sure I would let someone who hadn’t specialized in dermatology and had lots of experience with Botox do it, either.) I am now considering adding a filler (likely Juvederm) for those lines between my upper lip and nose.
My dermatologist says that she started doing it in her early-30s as a preventive measure: if you can’t wrinkle those areas, then you won’t even develop the wrinkles in the first place.
FWIW, I use Dysport (it works slightly longer on me than Botox), and I use the promotions on the Dysport website to get $50 off a treatment when they offer it.
Do it, and do it now. I am 32 (almost 33) – just got it done for the first time, and wish I’d done it sooner. It does smooth wrinkles, but also, as someone said below, it’s preventative. I have a very low pain threshold, and it barely hurt at all. So happy with it.
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K in NYC
I just wanted to thank those of you who have taken the time to write kind words in the past weeks. Although I was incredibly lucky to have gotten 6 extra weeks with him, my pup is gone as of yesterday. I began to miss him the very instant that his spirit left him but am grateful he was in my lap and that he was able to go with dignity. not sure when i’ll be back around, i’m mostly just lost in the pain of this, but I wanted to thank all of you who sent emails or commented here or sent a thought up for him.
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Always a NYer
My thoughts and prayers are with you, hugs. Take care of yourself during this rough time and allow yourself all the time to grieve. Your pup was very lucky to have you. The memories you have of him will always be cherished.
*more hugs and good vibes*
Oh no! So sorry to hear that. Big hugs to you!!!!
big big big hugs! i’m the poster who lost my kitty last week, the grieving process is slow and difficult – but i’m sure that the time you shared with your pup was well enoyed.
I’m so sorry to hear this. I’ve been pulling for your pup and you, and you will absolutely remain in my thoughts. Losing pets is so, so hard.
I am so sorry for your loss. I lost my beloved elderly lab last summer, and I still think of her every day. Allow yourself to grieve. Time doesn’t really heal the pain, but it mellows it, and I can now look at her photos and smile.
I’m sitting in my office, crying for you. I wish I had words to make this better.
Also fighting back tears and vowing that when the time comes, I will be strong enough to be with my pet like you were. :(
Oh no. I’m so sorry for your loss. I know nothing any of us says here can truly take the pain away, but in time, please take comfort in the fact that he had a really good life with you and he was lucky to have found you.
I’m so sorry this happened, and my thoughts are with you. I had a similar experience with my kitty just over a year ago, and still expect her to be at the door when I get home in the evening. It does get easier. Hugs and condolences.
I’m so sorry about your poor pup. You gave him a great life.
SF Bay Associate
Love and hugs to you.
I’m so, so sorry to hear. You’ve been in my thoughts a lot lately. I hope that one day you find comfort in the good memories you’ve had together and gain some peace from knowing how lucky he was to have had someone looking after him with such care. Sending a big hug your way.
Big hugs to you Kryss. Losing a beloved pet is an incredibly traumatic experience. I will be thinking of you. Take extra good care of yourself.
Really sorry to hear of your loss. Sending a big internet hug.
Oh dear, I’m so so sorry to hear about the loss of your pup. *EXTRA BIG HUGS* It may be hard to do, but try to take good care of yourself right now.
Aw, so sorry for your loss! It’s so hard to lose a pet. BIG internet hugs to you!!!
My deepest condolences on the loss of your beloved companion. I’m so, so sorry, Kryss.
So sorry, posting again from this morning. I’m glad you’re keeping us posted and letting folks come through for you as you’ve come through for others. Hug.
K in NYC,
I wonder if you might like Geoffrey Bain’s book, “Just One More Day.”
I’m so sorry for your loss. *hugs*
I’m going to give my pup an extra hug and a treat when I get home. I’m so sorry for your loss, K.
So, so sorry to hear this!
K, I’m so sorry for your loss. My thoughts and prayers are with you during this tough time.
Please remember that just like you were lucky to have your pup, he was extremely lucky–and I’m sure, very very happy–to have you!
I’m so sorry. Sending love and hoping you can be at ease.
K– I am sorry to hear that your pup has died. You two had great times together, and I hope those memories will be the ones that are the most lasting. Big hugs!
Thanks to those of you who have offered support and suggestions on seeking mental health treatment. Thanks in part to your suggestions, I saw a psychiatrist for the first time today, and am now in possession of prescription anti-depressants. I’m hopeful that this is the start of a new chapter in my life.
Also, the doctor was wearing the most fabulous Chanel tweed jacket, pencil dress, patterned hose, and a-maz-ing electric blue, four-inch, patent peep toes. Gorgeous and a total Corporette.
Good for you. Be proud that you’re getting the help you need.
Good for you! Starting to see someone can be the beginning of better things.
I think recognizing such a fabulous outfit is the first step to recovery. :-)
I am curious, how do we go about finding out mental health treatment? Did you get referral from your general physician or find out a specific doctor/provider type from the insurance website? I am totally clueless and also bit hesitant to ask others, this doesn’t feel same as a dentist search.
This might be a long sob story. I have been totally unmotivated recently (past 6-8 months), feel like my life is stuck in all directions, and most days don’t even feel like getting out of bed and can’t fall asleep at night before 1-2 am. I do have a very well paying job with long hours + a good deal of responsibility for my early career (5-7 years ) and I know I am good at it. But I simply don’t see future growth in what I do. My personal relationships are next to zero, most friends have moved away, I can hardly stand a phone call with my parents and don’t want to share details of my day to day life fearing their expected critical comments. My last bf moved away due to job change and that left another big hole. I have been a type A person all my life (and for now managed to keep that impression for co-workers/bosses) but thinking if I might need professional help. I know the usual tips, to get out and volunteer/meetups/dating etc, but I will be lucky if I bother to take my garbage out or go to gym for 30 minutes on a weekend. Unless I am dealing with an emergency at work (almost every other day), I just can’t find myself motivated for much else.
Anon2, please start with your regular physician. He or she should have a questionnaire that you can complete to pre-screen for depression, which this sounds like. A good GP will have the names of several therapists/psychs that you can see. The idea is that you will talk on the phone with one or two, see if you click, make an appointment and see if you click further, etc.
It seems like hard work at a time when you’re already unmotivated; but it’s worth it to shop a bit until you find someone you mesh with.
If all of that seems like too much, please start here – call your GP, and say, “I need an appointment to screen for depression.” That’s all. Five minutes for the phone call, and then you don’t have to think about it again until the day of the appointment.
And, since you say you have critical parents: if there is a small voice in the back of your head, telling you that you have no right to be feeling this way, please ignore it. Depression is a real medical condition, and experiencing it is no more a character flaw nor cause for shame than cancer was 75 years ago.
Seattleite, Thanks for the quick response with clear instructions, really helps on how to go about this conversation with a doc.
My ob/gyn gave me a prescription for an anti-depressant. I was angry for at least half the month. My husband and I haven’t had a major fight for three years now that I am taking the medication.
Same Anon from 4:17
Anon2, I had previously found a therapist via a referral from a friend, although I’ve struggled with major depression for years. Therapy didn’t work out well for me, and I wanted to explore medical options, so I called up the psychiatry department at a local teaching hospital where I see another specialist. For what you describe, therapy would be a good place to start. You can check out therapist listings on the Psychology Today website, or try to get a referral from a friend.
In general, a psychologist with a PhD or PsyD will be able to offer you the greatest range of therapy treatments, while someone with a Master’s or a social work degree will likely only specialize in one therapy technique.
Do any of you have recommendations for a truly red lipstick? Not brown-red, not orange-red, but red-red? I was at the store the other day, and it’s just overwhelming to try to determine which shade of red is going to actually turn out to be red-red!
Sephora Brand R03 (the number before the color number is 0272C; I have no idea if that matters). It’s a true red on me, but full disclosure: browns tend to go a little pink on my skin. It’s a creamy/matte lipstick that wears pretty long, doesn’t feather and doesn’t dry out my lips.
My true red lipstick is also from Sephora. Don’t remember the color number, but it comes in a matte black tube. Rich color, good quality for the price.
Ditto. Mine is Sephora brand too, can’t remember the exact number.
NARS “Red Lizard”. Also NARS “Cruella” in a matte lip chunky pencil/crayon works well as a liner (but I find it too drying to wear by itself).
Always a NYer
NARS Sheer Lipstick in Flamenco is a true red for me. I’m a pale brunette with pink-blue undertones.
I have Dior Addict. Can’t remember the name of the color off-hand, but it is definitely red-red (-red-red). I loooove it.
Estee Lauder Pure Color Long Lasting Lipstick in color 150/Classic Red or
YSL Rouge Volupte in color 17/Red Muse
My red-red is MAC Viva Glam I, but I know a lot of people also like Russian Red. I guess the problem is that the same red will have different qualities on different people. But those two are worth trying!
My red-red is also MAC Viva Glam. It looks a bit brick-coloured in the tube, but it goes on true red
NARS Shanghai Express is my standby — people always ask what shade it is! But I also love Red Lizard — had a hard time deciding between the two.
That’s my red-red also! I don’t wear it as much as I should…perhaps this weekend.
Lancome Color Design Lipstick in Red Stiletto.
+1 (I was about to suggest this). Love the color.
SF Bay Associate
Chanel Satin Lip Lacquer in Dragon.
OP here, THANKS! I’ll be on my way to look at all these and see what works with my skin-tone.
I gave in to a cheapie at Target: Maybelline Red Revival. Yes, its the color the girl is wearing in the ad. Its great, especially for $6. Good texture, wears well, nice color, no taste. A winner in my book!
Nars Flamenco, with Laura Mercier Truly red coming in a very close second.
This article talks about the perfect red http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703779704576074353250563300.html
Has anyone every tried Poppy King Medieval-Tinted Treatment?
I would appreciate recommendations for a safe. (The ones I’ve seen on Amazon have pretty crappy reviews.) I don’t need it for anything in particular, just a little discreet box to hide my jewelry, passport, etc., when there are workers in the house, and when our children get a little older and more curious. Definitely not for gun storage. Ideally waterproof/fireproof, and freestanding (as in, doesn’t need to be attached to a wall).
I have one I got at Target for maybe $50 that is fireprrof and I think waterproof too. Mine is small enough to easily slide under a bed but they had a bigger size that compares to an individual file box. Mine has a key lock, not a combination lock or anything like that, but I think such things are also available.
The best safes will have internal bolts that can be screwed into the wall or floor. What use is to have everything locked up if an intruder can simply pick up the safe and carry it out? Home Depot and Lowes each carry a variety of safes.
I have a small, regular folder file-sized Sentry safe at home for copies of important files; it just has a key but is waterproof and fire proof. I think I got it from Staples. I keep my originals, passport and some jewelry in my safe deposit box at the bank. Link to follow.
My parents, on the other hand, have a huge, stand up, 5 foot tall safe. It’s not bolted to the ground because there’s no way you can move it unless you have a dolly. They closed the bank safe and have everything in there (wills, passports, jewelry, deeds, etc). It has a 9 digit keypad combination lock. They got it from a store that sells safes.
Similar to what I have: http://www.staples.com/Sentry-Safe-Fire-Safe-07-Cubic-Ft-Capacity-Waterproof-Security-File/product_651875
I might be too late in posting this, but we had a little safe like you describe. The problem was, we were living in a very humid area. In the summer, I put our passports and some documents away. Three months later I opened the safe to find everything moldy inside. So if you live in a humid climate, you might want to get some silica packets or something else that will absorb moisture while the safe is closed.
I know we’ve discussed this at one point or another, but I’m thinking more and more about freezing my eggs. I’m in NYC and it seems prohibitively expensive. Is it feasible to go to another city (say, where your parents live) and have it done there where it is, presumably, more affordable?
I assume insurance would not cover any portion of this. Are payment plans possible? Or is it possible to take a loan out to do this? None of these sound like great options to me, but neither does missing out on the chance to have a child.
For those who will ask, I’m 33 and single. Date lots but never seem to find the right guy.
You could call other clinics but I doubt that it would be much cheaper. A big part of the cost is the medicine that makes you produce multiple eggs. Without insurance, the meds alone can cost 4-5K. Also keep in mind that if you freeze your eggs in state X, you will have to keep them frozen there and return there for any transfer.
I agree. FWIW, I underwent a relatively minor/primarily cosmetic surgery last year, and the prices in NY were comparable to those in my parents’ southwest hometown, where I ultimately had it done. I have found the same for MRIs in NY v. SW.
Okay well setting aside the location issue–is there any way to do this if you don’t have $15K sitting in the bank? And by what age should you do it? 35?
Apparently there are loans http://fertilityfinance.net/
There was a post on this recently: https://corporette.com/2011/12/19/guestpost-oooh-my-oocytes-or-my-experience-with-freezing-my-eggs/
Having gone through four IVF’s myself, I have some experience, although it wasn’t for egg freezing. For a single egg freezing cycle, I would expect to spend around $12-13k. You can probably do a two-cycle package (to do it twice, and freeze more eggs) for about $6k more than that (so it doesn’t double the price). If you’re really serious about this, I wouldn’t wait. For eggs, younger is better.
A lot of clinics do offer payment plans. That, or a loan, or the cash. I don’t know what else to suggest, since my insurance didn’t cover a penny of it. It’s just expensive.
I don’t know if this helps, let me know if you have other questions.
I appreciate your advice, thanks. How old were you when you did it? Is it painful? How likely is it that the eggs will be viable down the road?
I’m pretty sure there was an entire post about egg freezing not to long ago…that should have lots of info and comments. I think a lot of your questions were answered there.
I may be too late to reply now, but I was 28-30 when I did the IVF’s. You get anesthesia so it’s not painful, but you’re sore afterwards, some cramping. I think the eggs can last a long time while frozen, and the survival rate on thaw is pretty high, probably at least 80% or higher. But not all of the eggs will be genetically normal, which is why you try to freeze as many as you can.
Anyway, I think I’m too late to this thread, so I’ll stop there! Good luck!
Oh man, Ballerina Girl, as a 31 yo and fellow 2008 law grad, you are scaring me to death! This hasn’t occurred to me at all, but I am wondering if I need to get my act together.
Kudos to you for being so on top of everything! I’ve yet to find my own way out of my law firm (as I remember you did a while back), and feel like there simply is no time to plan a vacation, much less plan a life:(
Don’t despair! I’m just thinking about options. I wouldn’t do it for another year or two…if at all. But it makes me feel better when I think about the future. I just wish that this “insurance policy” were affordable!
I’m looking for sneakers that have arch support. I am a big fan of the Puma Speed Cats but they have no arch support and there’s not enough room in there for an insert and my foot. Any suggestions for nice casual sneakers that come with some arch support?
Skechers Shapeups, no joke. They’re ugly as sin but they’re sooooo comfortable. The only pair of shoes that I didn’t need arch support for. I’ve had these babies for 2 years and they still feel wonderful.
Propet lifewalker has pretty nice support.
I should have specified- I’m set on the super-functional front. I’m looking more for cute sneaks with some arch support. Thanks for the replies!
I absolutely love the Keens I have. I think they are supposed to be a hiking shoe but the colors are super cute (have them in a neutral brown with orange stiching and a blue gray with green). I’ve had plantar fascitis in the past that I blame on some ill-designed Sketchers and a temporary obsession with ballerina flats so am really careful about arches now. Experience has been anything boasting “stability” as a feature tends to be super comfortable and supportive.
I have a pair from Puma’s Soleil line and they have good arch support. They’re slightly narrow, though.
Have you tried taking a cute pair and adding inserts? I use Superfeet (green) in my running shoes and have put them in a couple pairs of weekend sneakers. Otherwise, I’ve found some Pumas have good arch support.
mizuno wave runners.
Please tell me I’m not the only one here who spent wayy too much money on Jason Wu for Target this weekend?
Is it everything it’s cracked up to be? For better or worse, I do not have a Target near me (yet…they are coming to Canada soon) and could not see schlepping out shipping and duty charges for this. But I am curious because the designs looked pretty nice.
jealous, i forgot about jason wu until about super bowl time. i continue to take solace with how well i did for target x missoni (and i LOVE all of that stuff)
At least you have a fast trigger-finger! By the time I got to the website, everything in my size was gone. I’m sure it’s all reappeared just as fast on Ebay for 5x as much! *weeps*
I’m going after work to see if there’s anything left at my target. According to the online thing, there is “limited availability” of the blue skirt I desperately want and I’m hoping I’ll get lucky, but all the scarfs as well as the cute cat tote are listed as “available,” and therefore (assuming this status hasn’t changed by the time I get there), I probably will spend too much…
Sadly, there was nothing left in my size. But if anyone lives in NYC and wears a large or extralarge and was wanting something, the Queens target has a decent selection left. (though it seemed like most people coming in the store were headed straight to that section). Despite what the online system said, I didn’t see a single Jason Wu accessory :-(
Snarky In House
My first day at the new job was today and it was GREAT! I am SO happy with my decision! :-)
Congratulations! That’s such a great feeling.
Congrats! What a great way to start a job. Yay!
Thanks to those of you who recommended kitty drinking fountains this weekend. I received and set it up today. The dominant brother is the mayor of the fountain already and is now watching it like it’s his favorite TV show. The submissive brother is slinking around hiding from it, like it’s going to rise up and murder him in his sleep.
Hopefully the submissive slinker will start using it soon. I didn’t get a chance to post on your comment last week, but the cats that I’ve fostered have rather enjoyed the drinking fountain.
Try putting a few of shy kitty’s favorite toys/treats near the fountain so he is more inclined to go near it. I’ve used both to convince some of my shy fosters to warm up to the fountain and realize it won’t “rise up” like that! Then the only “problem” you have is a couple extra of litter box scoops … but hey, I’ll happily do (or at least reasonably accept) that if it means healthier cats!
Thank you – I’ve been petting the submissive slinker (I think that may be his new name) next to the fountain, but he continues to eye it warily. I’m hoping the competition aspect with his big brother will make him slyly try it once bossy looks away.
This description made me lol.
Me too :)
I knew these would be small, but they are really small. I’m going to have to return them. I have a large face and a bit of a double chin, so they just don’t work for me. They are really pretty though.