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Tuesday’s TPS Report: Camo Print Jacquard Flare Dress

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Milly Camo Print Jacquard Flare DressOur daily TPS reports suggest one piece of work-appropriate attire in a range of prices. There are some great sales happening over at Bergdorf Goodman's 5F section. I like this jacquard knit dress, which doesn't register to me as a camouflage pattern, despite the name. I like the wide tank and high neckline (both front and back), and the flared skirt looks fun. It was $345 but is now $207. Milly Camo Print Jacquard Flare Dress Here's a lower-priced option and a plus-size alternative. Seen a great piece you’d like to recommend? Please e-mail tps@corporette.com.

Sales of note for 10.10.24

  • Nordstrom – Extra 25% off clearance (through 10/14); there's a lot from reader favorites like Boss, FARM Rio, Marc Fisher LTD, AGL, and more. Plus: free 2-day shipping, and cardmembers earn 6x points per dollar (3X the points on beauty).
  • Ann Taylor – Extra 50% off sale (ends 10/12)
  • Banana Republic Factory – Up to 50% off everything plus extra 25% off your $125+ purchase
  • Boden – 10% off new styles with code; free shipping over $75
  • Eloquii – Extra 50% off a lot of sale items, with code
  • J.Crew – 40% off sitewide
  • J.Crew Factory – 50% off entire site, plus extra 25% off orders $150+
  • Lo & Sons – Fall Sale, up to 35% off
  • M.M.LaFleur – Save 25% sitewide
  • Neiman Marcus – Sale on sale, up to 85% off
  • Spanx – Lots of workwear on sale, some up to 70% off
  • Talbots – 50% off 2+ markdowns
  • Target – Circle week, deals on 1000s of items
  • White House Black Market – Buy one, get one – 50% off full price styles

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Comments

  1. anon

    Despite my general dislike for Express, they have some really cute things right now… but the sales are less than satisfactory… buy one, get one for $19 isn’t that great of a deal when the sweater is $60 to begin with. Do they generally have store-wide sales of 30-40% off everything pretty frequently? I like their stuff right now but the quality doesn’t seem to merit the retail prices.

    • Zelda

      They do have periodic storewide sales. They usually have one around mid to late December/early January (can’t remember exactly when).

    • Anonymous

      I just ordered something online and received a coupon for $15 off if I spend $30 in-store (and it goes up – I think $40 off if I spend $100 or something like that, the deal was best with the cheapest amount!).

      I have also found Express pencil skirts to be astonishingly sturdy.

      • Woods-comma-Elle

        This – they have quite a lot of discounts like this ie you either buy something and get money off, or you can sign up for vouchers online. It used to be the case that if you became a member of their club or whatever, you got a discount code right off the bat, but I think they changed that.

  2. This dress

    How would you wear this with a daily high below freezing?

    I’d need a black turtleneck underneath and then a black slip under this (unless it’s lined) so that my black tights don’t stick to the dress. And then some jacket / other thing up top.

    I am really struggling with bringing sleeveless into winter and sometimes it just seems like such a hassle (too many moving pieces, often the underlayer is in the wash or the slip doesn’t quite work). Can people please make more dresses with sleeves?!

    • Anonymous

      One “fashion” blogger I follow (Franish) has said that if you wear a long-sleeved top, then put a tank over it, then wear the sleeveless dress, it smooths everything out properly. I’ve never done it, but it sounds like it would work. So maybe a full-length slip over your black turtleneck?

    • Zelda

      I like to layer a lightweight long sleeved t-shirt underneath my dress, which is hidden by the dress and blazer/cardigan. Uniqlo heat-tech shirts are perfect for this because they’re so lightweight. Only drawback is that you can’t take your blazer off. I haven’t had issues with tights sticking to my dress but I usually don’t wear knit dresses to work.

      I’m currently wearing a long sleeved shirt, sheath dress, wool blazer, two pairs of tights (one fleece lined), and knee high boots. Add a wool coat, gloves and scarf and I was fine commuting in below freezing weather.

      • Diana Barry

        +1, I do this all the time. I do wear a coordinating long-sleeve shirt so that I can take my blazer off and it will look OK. Yesterday I wore a Boden sheath dress (ponte), long sleeve BR modal tee (both black), grey blazer, tights and knee-high boots. I can’t wear 2 pairs of tights – if it is that cold I just wear tights under pants and my patagonia down coat, OR wear sweatpants and take them off at work.

    • Red Beagle

      I was looking at it and thinking the same thing. I think it would work with a thin silk black turtleneck layered underneath it, perhaps something from LL Bean or Lands End designed for layering. Then put a short moto-style black jacket over it, black tights (with or without texture) and booties, and you are good to go.

    • TO Lawyer

      I just wear a blazer or sweater over everything. I feel like a dress with sleeves is not any warmer than a sleeveless dress with a blazer or sweater over it. I do have some dresses where I layer a silk blouse underneath but that’s not necessarily for warmth, it’s instead of a blazer usually.

    • First Year Anon

      I have a cream blazer. I would style it with black pants or a dress, or navy would also look nice. I think it would look good with all neutrals.

  4. Manhattanite

    Brooks Brothers is having 80% off shoes today. I bought a gorgeous t-strap pump there last week for $105, now it’s $69. I’ll be returning the $105 pair and keeping the $69 pair I just ordered…

      • Sacha

        Unfortunately, I’ve found a little variance. Most have been TTS for me (at 8), but the calfskin pumps are just a bit short and I now wish I’d gotten a half size up (it’s way too late for me to return). If you can return in store or don’t mind the $7.00 return fee, I’d order two sizes. Otherwise I’d bet on your regular size, since all of the flatter shoes I’ve tried have been TTS.

    • NYNY

      How do their shoes run? I was looking at a pair of simple pumps from them, but wasn’t sure if they would fit my narrow heel, wider toe feet. For reference, I can’t wear Cole Hahn shoes because of my foot shape.

      • SW

        This is also my foot shape, and I love BB shoes. I can’t wear Cole Haans for the same reason.

    • Baconpancakes

      Sadly (happily for my wallet), there are no shoes I like in my size (10).

  5. anonymous

    PSA- brooks brothers is having an 80% off sale on shoes today. makes a lot of stuff easily affordable.

  6. Beth

    DH and I will be in Chicago in early april for a long weekend. We have an event on Friday night, but I’m looking for other things to fill our weekend. We’ll be staying near the riverwalk, which is pretty much the only part of chicago i’ve ever been to.

    Suggestions on what to do Friday/Saturday days, and saturday night? I’d like to stay away from super expensive restaurants as our friday plan are pretty fancy and involve dinner, and we probably won’t have a car, so taxi/subway friendly ideas are appreciated.

    • roses

      Xoco and Big Star are great for a not-fancy but delicious dinner. I prefer iO to Second City, but both are worth a visit. The Green Mill is also a fun place for live music, though it’s a long El ride.

      • Romey

        I also prefer IO to Second City. Laughed my butt off the last time I was at IO. Beth, depending on weather (it could still potentially be freezing in April) I really love the architectural boat tours in Chicago. Even though I’ve lived here for 8 years, I love going on them! I agree with kc, Shedd and Field Museum are both nice, and the Art Institute if you’re into art. Even just walking around Millenium Park is fun for tourists (you can take pictures by the bean). If you’re into lounges, I love the Aviary and Violet Hour. They’re very sexy and chic but the Aviary is pretty expensive. Other great restaurants are Gilt (probably my fave), Nellcote (love the decor and the food), restaurants in Greek town are all pretty good if you like Greek food, Hub 51 is cheap but good variety and good people watching.

        • Beth

          I’ve done the architectural tour with various work events–highly recommended though!

        • Beth

          What’s the deal with violet hour? Will there be much of a line/wait if we headed over around 11?

          • Romey

            On a Friday or Saturday night, yes. I can’t say how long . . . 11 almost seems late enough that you might have already bypassed the more peak times. If you’re into lounges/cool speakeasies and crafted cocktails, I think it’s worth the wait. Ugh, now I’m sad I can’t go (I’m pregnant).

      • Beth

        mmm i love frontera at o’hare– looks like it’s the same guy/style. going on the list!!

        • Romey

          The chef is Rick Bayless. I love all of his restaurants in Chicago. He’s a winner of Top Chef Masters! I think Xoco is really good but as a heads up it’s so small, I don’t know that I would do dinner there on a Fri or Sat night. I feel like it’s more of a lunch or brunch place.

    • E

      IO and Second City are good choices. Also, I’ve never been but have heard good things about the show Too Much Light Makes The Baby Go Blind.

      • roses

        Oh yes. Also a long El ride and potentially a long wait, but it’s super good. Note though that this one isn’t all comedy – some of the sketches are funny, others are serious.

    • Fun Things

      Walking tour of Frank Lloyd Wright and/or Mies van der Rohe buildings.

      Tour of the old library.

      Art Institute.

      Spertus Institute for Jewish Learning (the museum part).

      Second City.

      • Carrie

        This is a really nice list.

        I would walk through Millenium Park in the morning sun to the Art Institute, and have lunch there as well.

        I would do something to embrace and explore the architecture…. a walking tour given by the Architectural society or even an “elevated train/EL” tour if it is too cold for you. Or go to Oak Park for the afternoon to do the Frank Lloyd Wright home/walk.

        But don’t miss some arts/culture. Sure, try Second City. If you like theater, check out Goldstar online for half-price tickets that week and see the best. You will even find tickets to Steppenwolf or Goodman and for many of the dozens of wonderful small theaters. Or see music…. I also like the Green Mill, but if you want to stay downtown, try Buddy Guys. Or go the see the Chicago Symphony or Lyric Opera. The quality is so great, and if you just spend a few minutes looking online for cheaper tickets you can go at a deep discount. Outside of NYC, there’s little better, and it is much much cheaper.

        The wonderful restaurants are many, but I would make reservations early if you want to go to one of the really special ones. Let us know your preferences.

  7. Woods-comma-Elle

    Can I just say wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee because I am very excited! I finally got approval for a month working in NY in the run-up to Christmas (in BigLaw, but should have a couple of hours here and there for fun things).

    I’ve been multiple times before and I’m familiar with the city, but if any New Yorkers can offer input on what are THE things right now to do/see/eat, I’d be delighted. Any other good ‘NY in the winter’ tips will be welcome as well.

    • NYNY

      Fun! I love NY around the holidays.

      First off, unless you absolutely want to be a part of it, avoid the whole Rockefeller Center area. Between multiple Radio City Christmas shows/day and the tree, it’s like a rush hour subway ALL THE TIME, except that on the rush hour subway, people know where they’re going.

      If you have time, MOMA has an exhibit of the Matisse paper cut-outs which looks fabulous and has timed entry tickets. I’m planning on going soon.

      If you like bagels & lox (and such), Russ and Daughters has opened a cafe which is amazing.

      • Woods-comma-Elle

        Thanks, good tips – we had the Matisse cut-out exhibit in London a couple of months ago, very interesting, I definitely recommend it!

    • NytoCO

      You could try to get into Bobby Flay’s new restaurant, Gato. I also love just hanging out in the West Village, especially during the holidays. Everything is so quaint and lovely.

  8. PinkKeyboard

    Just found out Monday.. but after 2.5 years of trying our 2nd IVF attempt worked! I’m currently 4 weeks 5 days! I go in Thursday and find out if there are one or two munchkins in there.

  10. Romey

    Ladies, I need some humidifier assistance. During the winter, my nose gets SO dry at night to the point where I wake up and it’s so dry and crusty and painful. We used to have this humidifier that I linked to below, which was amazing, but that was when we lived in an apartment with carpet. The humidifier did make the surrounding carpet slightly damp. I don’t want to use it in our current condo which is hardwood. Does anyone have recommendations for an effective humidifier but that does not leave the surrounding floor damp? Or alternatively, do you have any suggestions as to how to protect the floor (maybe put a few thick towels under the humidifier?) Thank you!

    Previous humidifier that was awesome:
    http://www.amazon.com/Honeywell-QuietCare-Humidifier-Technology-HCM-6009/dp/B000G0LDRI/ref=lp_267555011_1_5?s=home-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1416324781&sr=1-5

      • Romey

        Baconpancakes, that is super cute!! Do you find that it’s pretty effective too?

        • Baconpancakes

          Yes, it’s very effective, but my room is fairly small. It has an auto-shut-off feature, which is nice, and I’ve only seen a little bit of the inevitable white residue from using tap water. I just wash it out every once in a while with soap and that seems to take care of it, but people with harder water might need to use vinegar. I think the elephant and penguin models are pretty cute, too.

      • Anon99

        Crane makes a lot of humidifiers in animal shapes, as well as a plain one. We have the plain one in our room and an elephant one in the baby’s room. The elephant one works a LOT better – the mist is finer and the fan seems stronger so it spreads out better. It also goes through less water to get the same humidity, probably because less of it ends up on the floor. So I recommend the animal ones over the plain “drop-shaped” one.

        • Baconpancakes

          I’ve read the elephant one is particular is the best because the trunk sprays the mist pretty high up into the air. Cute AND effective!

    • Meg Murry

      Put it up slightly on a (plastic) shelf or box? Then a bath mat underneath? Preferably buy 2 or more bath mats so you can change them out and wash them often so they don’t start growing ick.

    • JJ

      It’s not pretty, but when my nose/face gets really chapped (such as when I’ve got a cold and my nose is irritated), I swear by putting Aquafor all over before I go to sleep at night. I wake up and it’s usually much better.

      • First Year Anon

        Similar to me! I get nosebleeds regularly in the winter. I put vaseline inside my nose (sounds gross, but not that bad) every night. it definitely helps.

        When I have a cold, I slather vaseline on my the outside of my raw nose at night. It is the only thing that doesn’t burn it and stays on.

        • Ella

          Natural option for inside the nose: coconut oil. It sounds weird, but I’ve found it super effective.

        • Anon in NYC

          Yep. Aquafor in my nose works wonders. And on the outside of my nose when it’s chapped – works better than any moisturizer I’ve owned. Plus it’s fragrance free so it doesn’t irritate my sinuses.

      • RR

        Yes to Aquaphor for all winter skin ills: lips, nose, cuticles, elbows, feet. And of course all the little people parts.

    • Aurora

      I also have problems waking up with nosebleeds and a sore throat in the winter if the air is too dry. My husband and I had the Crane Polar Bear humidifier for a couple years, but we recently switched to the Crane drop humidifier (http://crane-usa.com/products/all-humidifiers/) and we love it. We also have all hardwood floors and have never had a problem with pooling water – if you are, it might mean a) you have the settings too high (if you can see the stream of mist coming back down, turn it down a little); b) you need to elevate your humidifier off the floor a bit (we keep ours on one of our nightstands), or c) all of the above. I find that the drop humidifier has been slightly quieter than the “adorable” one was, but either way, Crane is the way to go!

    • hoola hoopa

      This was a fantastically timed post for me. Thank you OP and all responders!

      I haven’t been happy with humidifiers (but I’ve never tried a crane and am excited to now!) because of the dampness, but a pot of water on the stove works well for the living space. For nose-only issues (me), I do quite well with just vasaline before bed. But my child with eczema has been suffering all over her face and even applying various suggested ointments several times a day isn’t helping, so an elephant is coming her way!

  11. Financial Question - Invest vs. Save

    How do you ladies determine when you have enough cash in savings to be comfortable pulling some of it out and putting it into investments instead (stocks/funds, not talking RE or other investments here)?

    • anonymous

      I don’t actually keep anything in cash beyond what I need to pay my bills for the month. Everything else I have is in stocks, so if I needed money quickly I would just sell and have the cash available in a few days or less. It works very well for me.

      • anonymous

        Frequently I don’t have cash lying around to pay bills either, as I just wait for my paycheck to come in to cover that, then I put the rest in stocks. but I’m also quite risk tolerant.

      • caveat

        One caveat to that is:

        2009: this would have been tragic
        tax time: lots of Schedule D items to fill out (also: lots of brokers fees — not sure that the costs of this wouldn’t outweigh any gains if you did this a lot).

        If you or your spouse (not sure re non-married partners) works in a lot of industries, you can’t just sell stocks. You have to get clearance and I once waited for years to sell a stock that I wanted to take the loss for on my taxes.

        I’m all for investing, but maybe if you do it for “extra” $.

    • Math Chick

      You need a cash cushion. Say, 3 months of mandatory expenses (rent, utilities, any loan pmts, etc.). 3 months of salary if you don’t want the hassle of mentally itemizing. At that point, you’ve got your cash cushion and I think you could do other things.

      [Cash cushion is a floor, not a ceiling! You don’t want to have to replace your furnace and get sacked in the same month. A conservative cushion = how long will it take you to find a new job if you get sacked * expenses in that window.]

    • ELS

      I abide by the old rule of six months of emergency savings, plus monthly savings for individual large expenses like a car, vacation, etc.

      Right now, we’re not feeding our emergency fund anymore. We’re saving a small amount each month toward the replacement of one of our cars/a vacation, and the rest that’s left over is invested. We typically pull that “extra” money out every few months.

    • Former Partner, Now In-House

      I break it down in my mind (and into accounts) to: living expenses (checking account), short term slush fund (savings account), mid-term savings (online “high” interest savings account) and long-term savings (retirement — both 401(k) and regular brokerage). Only the long-term is what I would call invested.

      • Former Partner, Now In-House

        RTA: I can’t tell from your post whether you are already contributing to a tax-advantaged account (401(k), 403(b), 457(b), IRA, Roth IRA). If not, that’s the place to start.

        • Financial Question - Invest vs. Save

          I max out my retirement accounts (401K and IRA). I’m strictly speaking about investments outside of the tax-advantaged realm. Thanks for asking – probably should have clarified.

          • Former Partner, Now In-House

            In that case, my answer is: I started doing it one day when I woke up, looked at my accounts (after years of trials (so no time to buy anything and no time to plan financial decisions) in BigLaw (so there was money I had not spent in my account)) and realized “Wow, I now make and have more than enough money to pay my bills for the first time in my life. Maybe I should do something like, oh, have a plan for saving and investing instead of just maxing out my 401(k) and letting everything I don’t spend languish in my checking account.” I was mid-30s when I had this fantastically embarrassing epiphany. Not recommended. Your (planning, thoughtful, earlier) approach sounds much better.

    • LilyStudent

      I have nearly a year’s costs in cash (though that includes a hefty chunk of my savings for a deposit on a flat, which will be in three years so I wanted to keep it in cash). I’ve only just felt comfortable enough to branch out and I’ve started doing peer-to-peer lending.

      • anon a mouse

        Same. A year’s worth of expenses in savings (my job is stable, but his is unpredictable, with extreme ebbs and flows in income). That doesn’t include retirement savings. Once we got to 12 months I started putting the extra in mutual funds (at $3-5K each time, to minimize transaction costs). Now that we have another 12 months in MFs, I have just started branching out small-time into individual stocks, more for my own education than for any long-term gains.

    • Anonymous

      The rule of thumb I have is to keep as many months savings as the unemployment rate. So, 7 months for 7%, etc.

    • Topanga

      I only keep around $1,000-2,000 of extra cash around. The rest all goes into investments. Even if tomorrow I lost my job (unlikely) and the stock market fell by 50% and I had to liquidate at a loss (also unlikely), I’d still have plenty of money to live for at least a year. But, I rent (so no huge unexpected expenses come from housing), I don’t have children or a spouse, I have health insurance and a fairly high balance in my HSA (which is also invested in the stock market) and no known health problems, no loans, and if worst came to worst, I could always move in with my parents. The most likely unexpected expense that I could see happening would be if my dog had a huge vet bill, but I would just put that on a credit card and either pay it off with my next paycheck, or if it was big enough that my paycheck wouldn’t cover it, I’d sell some index funds. Luckily so far this has never happened.

      That said, you should always keep enough cash so that you can sleep at night.

    • Sutemi

      I will let cash build up in a slush fund and then about 3 times a year I move it to taxable investments. At the low point, the slush fund has about 2 months expenses and at the high point about 6 months expenses.

  12. Wildkitten

    Has anyone used an executive coach? Did you learn anything? (I’m thinking like NGDGTCO but personalized).

  13. TheElms

    Mostly looking for internet hugs but some advice as well. My grandmother is dying, probably in the next few days to 2 weeks at most. We are very close despite the fact she lives in England and I live in big east coast city. I don’t know if I should go now or wait until she passes. Every time I try to think about it I just start crying.

    I am swamped at work and completely unable to focus. Do I tell the partners I work for and see if I can give some of my work to someone else or do I just try and suck it up? I think the partners will be understanding but not pleased. I can’t simply take vacation because I have used all my allotted vacation for the year or am saving it for a trip in December (honeymoon) that it already booked and paid for.

    • PinkKeyboard

      If you can afford it, could you take FMLA? I feel like *if possible* you would really value that time spent with your Grandmother. If you can’t make it, maybe someone could set up skype for you so can at least get some in person interaction (depending on her health/mental state)?

      • Mpls

        Unless you are leaving work to provide care for your grandmother, FMLA doesn’t apply here. I would think you’d be better off explaining the situation to the partners and asking for additional time off, than trying to coach it in terms of FMLA.

    • BB

      This sounds awful. Any chance you could work remotely from England? You could even promise them that you’ll work U.S. hours.

    • CHJ

      I’m so sorry about your grandmother. If it were me, I would rather see her before she passes, even if it means missing the funeral. Can you take all of next week off (Thanksgiving) and leave for England on Friday night? Partners will never be all that understanding about missing work, so sometimes you just need to do what you need to do for your life.

      • anonymous

        +1 to this. I just lost my grandmother too. I made it home for the funeral, but not before she passed since it was so sudden. I would much rather have seen her before.

    • mascot

      I’d try to go now assuming that she is in a mental /physical state that she can handle visitors and you are okay with seeing her in a deteriorating state. Some people don’t want that to be their last memory and that’s fine.
      I did an emergency trip to see my grandmother before she passed, and I am happy I did so. I got to see her and get the closure I wanted. I was unable to make it back for her funeral a few days later, but I had known that I would probably only be able to do one trip.
      This isn’t an easy time so be gentle with yourself.

    • Zelda

      I would definitely go if I were you. I had the same thing happen with my grandfather (I’m from a different country and most of my family is still there). I was able to Skype with him before he died but waited until he passed away to attend the funeral, because of limited vacation time and travel money. If I could do it all over again I would have seen him before he died, even if it meant missing the funeral.

    • JJ

      Late reply, but look at this situation 5 years from now: What will you regret more? Not seeing your grandmother or potentially having partners irritated at you?

    • hoola hoopa

      I’d go now. I hate missing funerals, but seeing someone in person is worth it.

      Tell the partners. Do you get bereavement leave? Every place I have worked has had 3-7 days (separate from PTO) – and most people are understanding regardless based on pure humanity.

      Hugs.

    • RR

      Go. Work has a way of showing itself to be unimportant years down the road. You won’t remember what you did during this time or that a partner raised an eyebrow. You will, however, remember that you spent time with your grandmother before she passed. In 5 years, 10 years, 20 years, that is what you will want to remember. Not that you stayed and worked on a project that you probably don’t remember or barely remember.

    • SuziStockbroker

      You’re getting good advice.

      I just wanted to add some internet ((((((hugs))))))).

      My extended family is in the UK too and I did not make it back before my grandfather’s passing or my uncle’s (both were sudden). I was able to get to the funerals, but given my druthers I would have liked to have seen them.

      I’m so sorry.

    • Bonnie

      Hugs. Definitely tell the partners about what’s going on. Could you take advance leave?

  14. Gail the Goldfish

    I discovered a hole in my favorite sweater this morning, which I can’t even really be upset about because I remember buying this sweater in college, so it’s at least 8 years old, probably closer to 10. It’s from Ann Taylor Loft. I know nothing I buy at ATL now is going to last me 10 years, so where can I buy a replacement super soft red v-neck sweater?

    Edit: Wait, no, this isn’t the ATL sweater, it’s a (extremely similar) cashmere sweater from Ann Taylor from 2 or 3 years ago. The ATL sweater is still going. My point on quality remains the same, however. Any suggestions for a replacement?

  15. anonymous

    I got a berry smoothie all over a sweater a few days ago. I put some stain remover on it and washed it- the stain is mostly gone, but there’s still a little left and it drives me nuts. any ideas on how to remove it, or is it time to retire my sweater?

    • Anonymous

      Try soaking it in OxyClean. Its the only thing that takes poop stains out of my kid’s clothes, so I bet it’ll take berry smoothie out of your sweater.

    • Pesh

      Mix a bottle of Hydrogen Peroxide with a few squirts of Dawn dish soap in a big bowl. Soak your garment overnight. Stain will magically disappear! It’s the best stain remover and will not damage or change the color of the garment. Discovered it when I spilled a glass of red wine all over my favorite shirt and it got it all out!

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