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Frugal Friday’s TPS Report: Crosby Street Straight Leg Pant

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New York & Company Crosby Street Straight Leg Pant | CorporetteOur daily TPS reports suggest one piece of work-appropriate attire in a range of prices. I haven't seen a deep teal pant this season, so I like this pair from New York & Company. I tend to wear a lot of neutrals (ok, fine, I wear a lot of black), so a fun way to infuse color that lets me keep my black cashmere sweaters is always a positive. The fact that the pants are $26 marked down from $52, and available in sizes 0-18, is even better. New York & Company Crosby Street Straight Leg Pant Seen a great piece you’d like to recommend? Please e-mail tps@corporette.com.

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Comments

  1. Anonymous

    does anyone know how these (or NY & Co) fits in general? particularly for the curvy girls, and also with reference to AT or BR sizing?

    • AttiredAttorney

      Larger/vanity sized, about on par with Ann Taylor, not as bad as Talbots.

    • Sydney Bristow

      I think the Crosby Street pants are the narrowest through the hips and the 7th Ave pants are curvier. I think there is a description of the difference on their website.

    • Anonymous

      I haven’t tried these in particular, but I find in genernal that NY & CO is btter for this curvy girl then other stores

  2. Alana

    Not sure, as I am also curvy, but for $26, the pants are still affordable for my tier 2 budget, even when including tailoring fees.

    • Ellen

      Yay! Fruegel Friday’s! I love Fruegel Friday’s and even tho I am NOT allowed to wear pant’s to the office, I LOVE these pant’s for ROSA. In reading the thread, I see that alot of peeople say they can be tight in the crotch. FOOEY on that. I say if you must wear pant’s, they MUST be comforteable and there in partiecuelar. Mabye that is one thing I do NOT mind — not being abel to wear slack’s to work– is at least with a dress, you have some freedom of movement.

      Of course, there are plenty of time’s I would LOVE to put my leg’s up on my desk, but with Frank peering in all the time, I do NOT want for him to be abel to ooogel me and look up my skirt. DOUBEL FOOEY on that! He has a wife at home (who was at the party) who is very attractive, so he already knows what we look like there.

      I got a txt from Fidel last nite. It seem’s that he is broken up with his girlfreind and is lookeing to ME to replace her. I txted back and said that I am NOT a fill in for a guy who break’s up with girlfreind’s. I told Myrna about him and she said NO WAY HOZE to this guy, so I am NOT goeing to bother with him. Myrna is sure he is the grabbey type that will get what he want’s then say Sayanara, and I do NOT want that. Dad also said he would never trust a guy named Fidel, even tho it mean’s HONESTY. What does the HIVE think about this? Has anyone ever dated a guy named Fidel?

      Myrna is takeng a 1/2 day off today and we are heading out to LI this afternoon. I want to stop at the deli on our way so I can buy 2 pound’s of corn beef and pastrami and bring it to dad. He does not mind ME eateing deli as long as he can sink his teeth into a good deli sandwich rather then watch me eat alone. YAY!!!!
      Mom also enjoys corn beef, tho dad alway’s stare’s at her tuchus when she eats deli knishes and say’s that he knows where all those knishes have gone over the last 40 years. FOOEY on him. He also has a tuchus too, tho I admit his is not as big as mom’s (or mine). DOUBEL FOOEY! Anyway, I will try to p’ost later, but I will be on my i-phone, so I will NOT be abel to post to much from that, and dad does NOT want me playing with his iMAC at home b/c he say’s there is alot of sensitive stuff on there that I can NOT see. FOOEY!

  3. Mark me tardy

    Please excuse my late arrival today. I blame it on not having adequate scarf folding, draping, and knotting skills, and also having aspirations of being a Lady Who Wear Scarves.

    • scarf

      Some knots are more simple than others. If you haven’t already sat in front of a computer with a Pinterest infographic on scarf-tying to do your knot, I highly recommend it. It does take some work, but many of the knots are not particularly difficult.

      But, having been the victim of several failed scarf attempts, I know your pain.

    • Terry

      Honestly, a fellow tourist in the Met museum gift shop taught me more about scarf folding than anyone else.

    • BB

      I used to have this problem! Watch Wendy’s Look Book’s 25 ways to wear a scarf video. It’s super helpful to watch through once, figure out the styles you like, then rewatch those portions over and over until you get the hang of it. I basically have 2-3 ways I wear scarves now.

    • Anonymous

      I love the scarf look, but just can’t seem to make them look ok with my large chest. Anyone have suggestions?

  4. hollis

    I just bought a pair of similar work pants that look and feel great but the crotch seam is a little too high, so after a lot sitting down at my office all day, the pants start to feel uncomfortable down there (same feeling when I wear thong underwear, which I dislike). Is there anything a tailor can do to fix this? if I lose a few pounds, will the problem go away or am I better off just donating the pants? Thanks.

    • I'm Just Me

      I think it’s easier to change your pants than change your body. I say donate if they are uncomfortable and shop for pants that fit.

    • Mpls

      It kind of sounds like the crotch depth is too shallow, which is not something that would be solved by weight loss.

      Too confirm this, I would take a pair of pants that fit you well and measure the length of the seam that runs from front center to front back, and compare that to the troublesome pants. You can also measure your ideal depth by running a tape measure between your legs and measuring from your front center to front back, being sure to take the measurements while sitting and standing.

      • ?

        If losing weight would mean that your pants would sit lower on your hips, then it would definitely make these pants feel more comfortable. I notice this discomfort when I put on about 5 lbs- my pant waistband has to be up higher (nearer my natural waist) in order to do up. Assuming you are ok with a lower rise pant.

        • agree

          Even some minor weight loss that will change where the pants hit on your hips v. waist, as ? mentioned will absolutely help the tightness that you feel in the cr0tch seam. Sometimes, also, wearing a pair of “sturdier” unders (not something silky/light or thong) can help to “bridge the gap” and keep the center seam from digging.

          • no name

            This is why I hate denim. The fabric can be rigid and the seams are thick. It is a delicate balance to have everything happy and even though my job has gone denim-friendly, I don’t think that my ladyparts are very denim friendly.

      • PolyD

        This is intriguing. I recently got some (very nice!) lined wool pants from Talbots and I can’t decide between 2 sizes. The larger size is a bit loose in the waist and the rise seems a bit long. The smaller size fits better in the waist, but is a bit tight in the rise. I can breathe and sit comfortably, so they are not insanely tight. But, I am also so used to wearing skinny jeans that I’m not sure how trousers are really supposed to fit. I might measure some trousers I already own and like and compare the measurements to help decide which pants to keep.

        I have to say, I really like the Talbots pants. They are 95% wool and fully lined. Am very tempted to order another color while they are still having their sale. These are their Italian wool flannel pants and I think they came out to about $70-75 with the discount.

        • scarf

          One thing I learned from What Not to Wear was when choosing between 2 sizes of pants, always choose smaller. If you care for them properly, regardless of fabric content, they are unlikely to shrink. However, with wear, they may loosen a bit, especially if any of that remaining 5% is stretchy (lycra, spandex, etc).

          I am petite, and I find that for me, pants look better on the snug side than the loose side. Loose pants just tend to look schlumpy, and you can sometimes get some really awkward seams/angles especially if you don’t have proper curves to fill out a larger pair of pants.

      • Mpls

        I’ll include a link to a pants-fitting guide. It’s really aimed more at people who are sewing their own garments, but it can be helpful for buying ready-to-wear so that you understand how a garment is constructed. It is entirely possible to buy a pair of pants that fits you in the waist/hips, but have it not fit through the rise – and that’s really going to come down to construction. You might be able to mitigate it some with weight loss/size reduction, but some geometries just won’t be helped that.

    • Must be Tuesday

      Loosing a few pounds might help, but as other posters have said, it really depends on the construction of the garment. When I gained a few pounds, it didn’t immediately show around my waist, so the waistband of my pants continued to fit just fine and sit at the same place. The weight did show in my lower belly and on my hips, which caused a few pairs of my pants to pull a bit at crotch making them uncomfortable, even though they didn’t actually look too tight. Loosing a few pounds did help in that case.

    • Anonymous

      I think it is ridiculous that my comment was deleted. I said that yes, losing weight would help. How is this offensive to anyone when it is factually accurate. Way to go, ladies.

  5. homebody

    Finally took the bait and ordered a dress from ASOS – one of those brands I’m always admiring on blogs but unable to try in person.

    Got the ASOS Bonded Velvet Deep Plunge Skater Dress and am so impressed! Fits true to size, gorgeous luxuriously heavy fabric – the dress weighs like 5 pounds. It also arrived from the UK to NYC in <48 hours (priority shipping). So excited to wear this at the holidays!

    • Duchess

      Oh I LOVE that. Did you go with the berry or the emerald? I don’t have an actual need for this dress this late in the game, but I may need it for the future…

      • homebody

        I felt like I needed it too! I went with red, better color for me, but man the emerald is gorgeous too!

        • Duchess

          What are you going to wear with it? I am always cold, so I’d need a sweater or jacket with it… Obviously, can’t pair it with a velvet blazer, and I’m afraid a cardigan might ruin the lines. Have you thought about this at all?

          I just ordered the berry. Thanks for sharing it — I’m so excited to get it!!

          And in case anyone else is considering it, you can get an additional 10% off with code RMNDEC.

    • SA-litagor

      Gorgeous dress! How is UK sizing on ASOS? Did you get your regular US size or go up?

      • homebody

        the US site has US sizing – I got a US 8, which is also marked as UK 12. Found that their sizing chart was super accurate!

    • emeralds

      Gorgeous dress! I would need that for the future too, if I didn’t already have a velvet skater dress D: And no matter how beautiful it is I do not actually need two velvet skater dresses…

  6. AnonX

    LL Bean video right beneath the Feedly widget. And then a Shell, video, I am bailing now, but it looks like a loop of ads and yes they autoplay with sound. It sucks. Bye.

    • Anonymous

      For me, it’s under the “more sponsors” section and I don’t think it’s LLBean. Autoplay videos with sound are SO annoying.

    • Apples

      What blows my mind about the uproar re: auto-playing videos is that there are people who don’t have their computer speakers on mute at work.

      • Anon

        Unfair! My work converts voicemails to sound attachments to emails, so the only way I can listen to my vms is on my computer!!! I’m not going to keep muting/unmuting my computer!

        • Anon

          Headphones? The rest of your office probably doesn’t want to listen to your voicemails.

          • Anonymous

            I have an office with a door, my voicemails come as email attachments too… so my computer speakers are not on mute.

      • workingmomz

        I listen to webinars at work through my computer speakers so I don’t mute my speakers either. I think it’s ridiculous to have autoplay video ads on a site which is primarily accessed by people at work.

  7. Anon

    I need advice from the wise hive. I’m a new-ish lawyer practicing litigation in my late 20s. I’ve been told that I look younger than I am. I feel like I am often bullied by older, pushy, male opposing counsel. They are often condescending and combative. I get so down about myself every time I get an argumentative (and often nasty) email or phone call from one of them. I know that they are just advocating for their clients but I can’t help and feel like I did something wrong, I don’t know something, or that I look dumb. Sometimes it’s hard to stand up for myself, especially when I don’t have the conviction that I am doing the right thing. Any advice on how to better handle these issues? Is it just that I am in the wrong profession for my personality?

    • TNTT

      It definitely took me time to get over these kinds of feelings. One thing that helped me was to be sure to develop my personality as one that is congenial but strong. For example, when I’d get an email that is overly argumentative, many times I’d just pick up the phone and call the sender. “Hi, I received your email and I wanted to call because there was a tone in there that I’m sure I’m misinterpreting. I think we’ve had a great professional relationship so far and I want to keep that up. Can we talk about dep scheduling now?”

      Another one that shuts down the shouting right quick (if you end up on a shouty phone call) is “Can you give me a call back when you’ve calmed down so we can work this out? I’ve got a space on my calendar around 2:00. Thanks!”

      • Godzilla

        That’s very good advice – point out their ridiculous behavior and demand professionally appropriate interactions.

      • Anon2

        I’m not in law, but the sole woman in my finance office and often the only woman in meetings/on deals. I ALWAYS follow up emails with calls. It’s so cowardly to behave like that in an email (whether the end-reader is a female or not). Calling them catches them so off guard, and I absolutely love doing it. I try to make my tone friendly, but professional (Aka don’t sound overly sweet/little girl-ish). It almost certainly changes the tone going forward, and is quite entertaining, too!

        ETA: I start the call with something like “I received your email and I just thought I’d call. I think it’s easier to just talk these things out so there is no misunderstanding…”

        • TNTT

          Yes perfect – this script is better than mine. It always does surprise them and it really does help cool the relationship down for the future.

          Also remember that their condescension can be a gift. They will forget to take you seriously one day, and you will nail them, and it will feel amazing. My first instance of that actually happened in front of a female judge and I could feel her cheering for me on the inside, haha.

          • anon

            YES YES YES re: condescension as a gift. I have one opp counsel relationship where I have repeatedly kicked so much ass because of this. He just doesn’t get it.

    • Godzilla

      I am not a lawyer but let me tell you right now: STOP, JUST STOP.

      You don’t need to have the conviction that you’re doing the right thing every step of the way. You just have to sound like you do. That’s your job – appearing confident and kicking @$$. Don’t think that opposing counsel believes in what they’re doing.

      You are smart, capable, and awesome. RAWR YOUR AWESOME AT THOSE LOOSERS!!!!

      • Jordan

        Agree. And if you do not know use your best judgment and tell them you will get back to them on that issue. I am in the same boat but about 5 years out.

        Talk to other attorneys about their tactics. I’ve found that attorneys (male and female) have great advice for how to shut male and female jerks down. It’s not that their advice is even that creative but for some reason hearing it makes me more confident to use it in defense. For some reason I was more off put (put off? sorry long week) by the women jerks than the men.

        But I agree with the notion that if it’s not appealing to you to kick their behinds, litigation might not be what floats your boat.

        I was served with an MSJ today (filed on Wednesday) just so that I would have to work on it over the holidays. There are no other deadlines or reason to have filed it now and it is definitely an attorney bully I go back and forth with about having my client deposed at his office (he always makes us go to the courthouse because I will not agree to hold every other one of my client’s depositions at his office) and I just won a big court of appeals case against him last month. But, to me it’s just more motivation to kick him down more. He made me cry several times (behind my closed office door) for about the first year I worked against him.

        If you feel like they are just being jerks to be jerks, fine. If you feel less than confident in your substantive response, figure out why, find a buddy and start dropping hypos at lunch or happy hour. Never use the other attorneys name. Just ask things like “what do I do when the attorney starts asking me questions in my clients deposition” or X happened, what would you do?

        It’s easy to get some amazing but somewhat generic responses from the hive (nature of the internet beast). Pick up where fellow posters left off. At the very least you can vent.

    • Anon

      Don’t get down on yourself! Get excited that these DOOSHES have clearly underestimated you. Mutter under your breath, “You have just f@cked with the wrong woman,” and get to work. Then eviscerate him in your case while remaining cooly civil in your demeanor. Accept the gratitude of your client. Toast yourself with nice glass of champagne.

      If this doesn’t sound even remotely appealing to you, then litigation might not be for you. But give it a shot before you give up! And don’t ever let a sexist a$$hole make you question your worth.

    • JJ

      It took me becoming more confident in my abilities as a litigator before I could shake off those annoying emails from opposing counsel. And I’ll be honest, sometimes an email from opposing counsel will get under my skin. But each year, I get better and better at shaking it off. Finally, sometimes it feels really good to take the high road through this and then get the opportunity to send the righteously indignant email.

    • Anon

      Being combative and condescending is part of the game. It’s going to happen to matter how you look, so you need to accept it as a fact and learn to be more confident in what you’re doing or it will bother you forever.

      • Pink

        I was there. It didn’t shake me to be on the receiving end of such immature behavior, but it did inform me about their personality.

        Just trust it isn’t about you, it really is about them being so insecure in their own selves that they felt the need to be a$$es.

        Also, when they get like this, beat them and feel good.

    • lawsuited

      You don’t have to engage in interactions that are combative, condescending or nasty just because the other lawyer is leading you there. The opposing lawyer is trying to intimidate you because it’s worth a try rather than having to actually working up the merits of their case, and you have an obligation to your client not to fall for it. Remind yourself that it’s your show, and you don’t need to give over control of your interactions with opposing lawyers just because they are more experienced than you. Try to develop your own one-liners to shut down and redirect the interaction. Some examples of mine are:

      – If an opposing lawyer is rude or raises their voice, I wear my poker face, and say “Are you done? Can we get back to _____?”
      – If they ask me a question about how long I’ve been in practice or how old I am (implying that I’m inexperienced), I smile and say “I’m not going to answer that. Let’s get on with _____.”
      – If they comment that I look too young to be a lawyer, I smile and say “Thank you. How lovely of you to say!”
      and move on
      – If they ask me a question about a point of law that I don’t know the answer to, I put on my poker face and say “I’m not going to talk about that now, let’s talk about _____ [the issue that I want to talk about].”

      It sounds stupid, but literally prepare your one-line responses to situations you’re often in and practice saying them so that they roll off your tongue easily when you’re in those difficult interactions and feeling stressed.

      • Apples

        When they ask how long I’ve been practicing (in that tone), I ask how long til they retire.

        • anon

          Corollary: when they tell me that they have been practicing law since before I was born, I say that I’ll be practicing after they’re dead. (Someone else had this line on this site several years ago – thank you again)

    • SuziStockbroker

      I think a lot of women struggle with this. Certainly, in my field, it often seems like men are assumed to be competent and women are assumed to be incompetent (until we prove, over and over again that we are not).

      At some point in my 40s I finally realized that I am more competent than the majority of my male colleagues (both within and outside my firm). The kicker is, I probably aways was, compared to others with my level of experience.

      Just because they swagger around and THINK they are all that, doesn’t make it so.

      I wish I had learned this earlier.

      I LOVE Anon at 10:19’s “You have just f@cked with the wrong woman”. My internal voice says, when I feel I am being underestimated by someone who should know better is “Dude, have you ever met me?”.

      Please don’t wait until you are in your 40s to realize what a rockstar you are :)

    • Killer Kitten Heels

      As someone who worked for “that guy,” don’t take it personally – it’s not because you’re a woman, it’s not because you’re young, it’s because his dad didn’t hug him enough when he was small and he treats everyone that way.

      Also, the amount of shouting/rudeness was inversely proportional to the strength of his case – sometimes, the guy who’s yelling loudest is doing it so you don’t notice that his case sucks.

      Don’t worry about yelling back or “standing up for yourself” in some big dramatic fashion – worry about holding your line where you need to on scheduling/etc., and getting the things you need to get done, done. If the issue is getting verbally steam-rolled in court conferences, repeated use of “excuse me, I wasn’t finished” will usually get you back the floor.

      ETA: And thinking some version of “I’m sorry sir, have you MET me? Because you’re in for a world of hurt” in your head is helpful.

    • Anonymous

      30 yo fellow litigator here. I know how you feel but my advice is that you really just have to learn to suck it up. It’s not about you. Take pride in taking the high road by having a more cordial and gracious demeanor

      Just last year I spent hours and hours drafting what I thought was a brilliant demand letter that carefully articulated my client’s claims and the facts they were base don. I hoped to receive a reasonable settlemento ffer from the other side or at least an offer to discuss. Instead I received a 5 page single spaced reply that viciously denied liability and insulted our claims in every way possible (in legalese of course “the letter falls grossly short of establishing [elements of the claim]”…”some other equally distorted reading of [statute]”…”utterly preposterous”…etc.) I felt a little sick to my stomach because I was almost persuaded that I indeed sucked as much as the letter implied i did. Then I showed it to a much more senior person who rolled his eyes and essentially said the whole reply was BS and pointed out that the reply totally misinterpreted [important supreme court case] which I would have seen if I hadn’t been distracted by all the posturing.

      Now I can take it in stride when opp counsel (twice my age and 2 feet taller) towers over me in the courthouse hallway yelling about his displeasure with our discovery production. You have to learn to do the same or else litigation might not be for you.

    • Mo

      People are giving you good advice, but I do think you should take a hard look at whether your chosen area of specialization is a good fit for your personality. There are many areas of the law in which you don’t have to argue for the sake of arguing or be a jerk to opposing counsel. On the transactional side, lawyers who send nasty emails or take hostile stances on phone calls usually don’t have as much success as those who can work cooperatively and still advocate zealously for their clients. From an outsiders perspective, it seems like litigators who specialize in niche area (where they run into the same lawyers and set of potential clients) are more pragmatic as well. Think about what you do like about your job and what attracted you to litigation in the first place, and see if you can get into a role where you get to do those things most of the time.

      • Hollis

        I completely agree with this. I cannot handle conflict/condescension/criticism well and I want too badly to be liked by everyone. That’s just my personality. Big firm litigation got to me daily to the point where I hated going to work. Switched to transactional work and it’s been awesome ever since. But I have friends who do more regulatory work and more niche practices within litigation, who never experienced the same stuff I experienced working on general litigation matters.

    • A

      I just say something like “no need to yell,” or “I can tell you’re really upset by this but I’d prefer discussing it calmly,” and proceed friendly but firmly. It helps me to think of them as “emotional” instead of “mean.” I actually think is funny and quite silly how worked up they can get over something trivial.

  8. ac

    Gift help needed: $40-50 budget for a woman in her mid-30s who travels internationally for work (mostly US to Europe) but is a bit of a free-spirit. She’s anti-stuff so my thought is to get her something that will be awesome to have while traveling and that she won’t view as “more cr@p”… but coming short on what. Also, I procrastinated so something available on Amazon Prime is a bonus (though not required). Thanks in advance!

    • Once Thrifted

      A pack of helpful travel widgets? Travel pillow, eye mask, fancy/fun suitcase baggage tag/handle-identifier thing (surely there’s a more technical term…), airplane bottles of liquor, gift certificate for a massage/spa service at her preferred airport? Travel-sized consumables of nice high-end toiletries? Unique travel journal & fancy pen? Bigger SD card for her camera? Gift certificate to foreign retail (I would think something like Harrod’s or similar distinctly-european brand) in an area you know she travels?

      • Anon

        My mom gave me a luggage tag that has one of those phone scanners on them so when a person scans it all your info and, if you want, your flight itinerary shows up.

    • lawsuited

      The DKNY cosy is my best friend when travelling, and you can pick them up for around $50 at DKNY outlet stores.

    • ANP

      Really nice travel-sized toiletry kit (luxurious hand creams, lip balms, eye mask)?

    • Sacha

      Emergency charger for her phone? There are some cute ones the size of a tube of lipstick now. And there are some that dual function as hand warmers.

  9. Rowan

    A few weeks ago, someone on here talked about a particular detergent they use for handwashing delicates. It needed you to mix the detergent with water and leave the items to soak rather than do any scrubbing. Can somebody remember the brand name better than I can please?

    • Seattle Freeze

      There are various wool washes used for washing handknits – Soak, Eucalan – that would also work for washing delicates. You can find them online or at your local yarn shop.

  10. ANP

    Hi friends – bought the iPhone 6+ yesterday and may have buyer’s remorse. It was between the 6 and 6+ for me and now I’m thinking this phone is just too darn big! Any thoughts from 6/6+ users on one vs. the other? Two friends who have the 6+ say they got used to it and will never go back, but I’m not sure. FWIW, I have medium-smallish hands and I use my phone quite a bit for email and reading (not books, but blogs/articles). I also use my phone for work purposes. Any thoughts on this? Thinking I should exchange but wondering if I’ll regret doing so down the road…

    • Anonymous

      I have the 6 and think even that is too big. I have fairly average sized hands for a woman, but I require two hands to text, take pictures, etc. I really don’t know how I would maneuver the 6+.

      • Anon

        Late response – I upgraded to the 6 and at first I also thought it was really large, but you get used to it pretty quickly. I did try holding the 6+ and felt like it would be a little to much for the size of my hands.

    • Constant Reader

      I have the 6 and have small-ish hands. I can *just barely* hold the phone with one hand to text and check emails. Taking pictures is out of the question – I need two hands to keep phone steady. Talking on the phone is also sort of awkward. When I first got the phone it seemed really big to me and I thought there was a mistake and they sent me the 6+!

      TL;DR: I would see if you can exchange.

    • Michelle

      I got the 6 about a month ago. The first few days I had it I thought it was way too big, but once I got used to it I love it. So give your 6+ at least a week before you bring it back.

    • Anon

      I have the 6 and I love the size. It’s better for reading and watching videos (I read anything from blogs to ebooks to comics on my phone) while not being tablet-size. I have child-size hands but the 6 hasn’t felt awkward. I can unlock it with pretty much one hand thanks to the fingerprint reader, and taking pictures with one hand is fine too. The snap button is in the middle right where my thumb hits. I know ppl who like the larger size but I’ve always known I prefer this one. So it’s really up to you.

  11. Sarabeth

    So, apologies in advance: this is a variation on a question that gets asked a lot around here. But I am kind of desparate, so asking again.

    Is there any way to wear pants to a professional job in a snowy winter if you have to walk a lot? I’m a college professor and I walk between buildings regularly during the workday, so “tuck my pants into my boots for the commute” isn’t a great solution for me. We get enough snow in the winters that there is no way for my pants to stay un-gross if they are outside my boots. I guess what I want is a magical pair of pants that can be worn inside boots, but also look professional. This is a pipe dream, right? I know about fleece tights, but they are not actually as warm as long underwear under pants, and I generally prefer pants over skirts/dresses.

    • YouSaucyMinx

      I don’t find this too challenging. Skinny or slim fit work pants are quite on trend right now. In the winter when I’m all about comfort, I wear ponte slim fit pants under knee high boots, but you could combine them with booties too.

    • emeralds

      Depends on how your uni rolls, but I would be totally fine wearing corduroy leggings tucked into boots with a longer sweater or jacket at mine. I’m staff, not faculty, and obviously only you know if you need to wear suiting pants, but I roll with the corded leggings all the time in the winter and I’ve never had anyone not be shocked that I was wearing leggings when I gloated about my lack of zipper.

      • Sarabeth

        Ironically, I’m wearing corduroy leggings today! But that’s because I was just giving an exam. They do feel a big casual otherwise.

    • Anon

      If fleece tights aren’t warm enough, you could do leggings or even under armour leggings if you run really cold instead. Otherwise, you need skinnier pants to tuck into the boots. What kind of boots do you have?

    • lawsuited

      The only option I can think of is ankle dress pants and ankle boots, although I wouldn’t choose to wear that combination to work.

      I had a few professors who travelled to classes in outerwear and untucked their pants from their boots as part of their taking off their coat/mittens/scarf process, maybe because there isn’t a great solution. What do the other professors at your college do?

    • Carrie...

      Yeah, I fear you wont find what you are looking for. I have finally crossed over to tights and skirts and knee high boots, and if that isn’t working for you…. you are missing the long coat that covers your legs as well. The thin fabric of a pair of pants doesn’t help much anyway once you reach snow weather. But a coat does.

      But many snowy Universities are casual enough that you can get away with straight leg corduroys, ankle booties with tights underneath anyway. No? Or you can get (appropriate long length) boot cut corduroys and fold them into your healed boots/booties while you are outside and then take them out of the boots/booties while you are inside. The cords material tend to tolerate bunching into boots better than thin pants.

      I’m in your same situation, except I’m walking around multiple hospitals. Fortunately, they keep most of the walkways relatively clear of snow during the day, but I still get messy. I’m trying to make the transition to skirts… although it isn’t me…

      • SuziStockbroker

        This.

        I was always a pants suit kind of girl, but switched and am much cozier in my tights and skirts/dresses with flat knee boots and a long coat.

        I almost never wear a skirt of a dress when I am not at work, much more of a jeans wearer when out of the office. But for the office, skirts are cooler in the summer and warmer (with tights) in the winter and you don’t have to worry about your pants getting dirty or looking silly poufing out over your boots if they are not slim cut.

    • Parfait

      In the grand internet tradition of not answering the question you actually asked, I bring you:

      TWO pairs of tights, a pair of cozy socks, boots, and a skirt.

      I hate wearing pants and this is how I survive in cold climes.

    • anon

      Any ankle pant should work… I like the campbell pant from jcrew, whichi comes in cotton and wool. Theory makes ankle cut suit pants, I think. Ankle pants won’t necessarily fit perfectly but they shouldn’t puff out and look strange in snow boots or riding boots…

  12. Austin NYE?

    Hoping for advice from the TX crowd – DH and I are celebrating NYE in Austin (going to see Willie Nelson!) and am wondering which sounds right for this occasion: jeans/boots/sparkly top, or a gold dress (somewhat on the casual side)(not sure w/ boots or heels)? Also, any recs for restaurants in Moody theater area would be appreciated!

    • Anonymous

      My favorite thing about Austin is that there is no conformist style–anything goes and won’t get the judgy side-eye that’s so prevalent in Dallas. So, I’d say wear whatever you’ll be the most comfortable in! I would vote boots with the dress, just because it’s fun wearing boots and for me, more comfortable than heels :)

      Have a great time!

      • HM

        Personally, I’d go with jean, boots, sparkly top. Enjoying a Willie Nelson concert in a gold dress just seems like too big a juxtaposition… but hey, wear what you like best!

        (And to defend the Big D, outside the “Parks” there are very few side-eyes. And most of us just ignore it!)

        • Austin NYE?

          “Enjoying a Willie Nelson concert in a gold dress just seems like too big a juxtaposition”

          Haha, good point!

      • JJ

        Agreed to go with boots, and agreed to defend Dallas that there’s not that much judgy side-eye. No more than any other city.

      • Anonymous

        I just came back and re-read, and to clarify I meant boots with the dress *if* you wear the dress, but not necessarily the dress over the jeans!

        And re: Dallas, I find Uptown way worse for the side-eye than the Park Cities. But alas, I’m a 20something professional who hates a long commute and wants to be able to walk to the bars, so I just let my fellow Uptowners side-eye away and think about the Botox bills they’re racking up thanks to me ;) Honestly, it was just a joke to make the point that OP should feel free to wear whatever she wants because everyone else in Austin will, and won’t be concerned with what she’s wearing (whereas it can *feel* that way in other places if you happen to be a little sensitive to it).

        • JJ

          That explains it – I’m in Uptown only for work and lunch and flee to my house once the day is done. I could believe it, though.

    • Cora

      I agree with Anonymous–either will be fine. I personally would go for the jeans/boots /sparkly top because that would be more comfortable for me, but whichever you prefer will be totally fine.

    • Emmabean

      What kind of food do you like and what kind of atmosphere are you looking for?

      • Austin NYE?

        We like almost everything – maybe a steak or sushi? For atmosphere, probably something that feels a little festive.

        • Emmabean

          I suggest Bob’s steakhouse or Trulucks, both should be walking distance, both fancy steakhouses. I’d pick trulucks over bob’s, but I like seafood more than steak. I’d also suggest Trace or Trio – in the W and the Four Seasons, respectively. Moody is actually in the same building as the W, it would be a long walk from the Four Seasons.

          Uchi is big deal sushi in Austin, but I am meh on it, and no where else comes to mind for a NYE dinner. Not sure your thoughts on upscale BBQ, but I know Lambert’s is a big hit with most people, also in the area. Otherwise, that area of town is very walkable, so anything in the general vicinity will be just fine!

    • Must be Tuesday

      Either outfit sounds good. I would definitely choose (cowboy) boots for a Willie Nelson concert instead of heels. I’ve seen him a few times, and it’s always been a great show. Enjoy!

  13. AnonNYBigLaw

    Secretary Christmas Gifts – I know this has been discussed already, but I’d really like a poll of specifically NY big law since other markets are so different – do you follow the $100 per class year for secretary gifts? I’m a seventh year now, and honestly – $700 seems like a crazy amount. I was thinking of capping at $500. What do others do?

    Also, anyone else have to tip doormen and super at a brooklyn coop? We were thinking $100 each, but really have no idea.

    • Anon

      I’m NYC BigLaw and we do not do $100 per class year. We have a scale for assistant gifts that starts at $125 and goes up by $25 per year… so as a fifth year, I was supposed to give my assistant $225 this year. I gave her $240 in part because she’s been really great this year, and in part because I only had $20’s. Pretty much everyone at the firm follows the scale, which is circulated by someone at the beginning of the holiday season, although some people give more for various reasons. $100 per class year seems super high to me, but I am only familiar with what my firm does.

      • Anon for this

        NYC biglaw, 4th year. We don’t have a scale. Associates at my firm have typically given between $100-150. I gave $150 last year. I’ve gone up in $25-50 increments each year. I will probably give $175-200 this year, depending on the cash value of a gift card I can find at the drugstore.

    • Manhattanite

      I did $150 when I shared a secretary with 8-10 other associates and paralegals. Now I share 4 with 20-30 assocs and paras and did $50 per.

    • buffybot

      NYC biglaw and just had a conversation with some associates. The $100 per class year, roughly seems to be sticking — but up to a cap of about $500. Someone else said that they had heard people using a scale of $75 a year.

      I gave $400 this year, though, which is roughly in line with that (plus an additional personalized gift, not that expensive), but my secretary honestly seemed surprised by my generosity. So I do think that’s an indicator that $100 per year isn’t as common as you might think.

      But I think it was justified, because (1) we got larger bonuses than expected this year (thank you, DPW) and (2) my secretary is actually wonderfully competent. If your secretary does nothing for you, then yeah, that’s a lot of money.

    • Anonymous

      Wait. This is news to me. I am a second year at in BigLaw in a West Coast city and I gave her $100 last year and same this year. I was under the impression that even the partners in my firm were giving max $100/year. What are lawyers in other cities doing?

      • Hollis

        Off-the-scale associate at a mid-sized firm in a West Coast city. Everyone here tells me the going rate is $50 total, regardless of year.

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  16. Help?

    Does any reader live in Paris??

    I had an item (of sentimental value) stolen when I was there over Thanksgiving and I just received a letter from the lost and found office telling me that I have 2 months to retrieve it. I would love to fly back just to get it, but that’s not in the cards for me.

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    If you’re available to help please email me at mskimmath at the google mail. Thanks!

    • good luck

      I hope you find someone to help you out–either through this venue or another. Or that you get to go to Paris again.

    • McBagel

      I’m don’t know if this exists there – but what about a task rabbit or other type of service to pick it up and mail it to you? Or an international concierge?

      • Anonymous

        Or possibly the concierge at your hotel, if it had one? Hope you’re able to find someone! I’d love to have a trip planned to Paris to be able to help, and well, to be going to Paris.

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      Best of luck!

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  19. Anon4This

    I need some advice. Sorry, this is really long because of background information.

    When my mother dated then married my father 40 years ago, her parents stopped speaking to her because she married a man outside of her race. My mother had no contact with her parents for 38 years.

    Two years ago, my mother’s father became ill and reached out to her. She began speaking to her parents again and invited them last minute to my wedding. I was furious at the time, but my parents were paying for the wedding and realized I could not do anything about the invitation. And honestly, I just assumed my mother was so excited to speak to them again that she was not thinking about anyone else’s feelings. I met her parents for the first time at my wedding. I have only spoken to them one other time in the last two years.

    Now, to the present day situation. I had a baby in September who is the first great-grandchild for my mother’s parents. They called her in September expressing a desire to meet my child. My mom asked me if I would allow them to have a relationship with him. I said no.

    Currently, my Aunt is visiting her parents and would like to visit me. (My Aunt lives 3,000 miles away so we do not see each other often, even though we have a great relationship.) She called my mother and my mother gave her my address and told her to visit me next Tuesday. My mother then called me to inform me that my Aunt and her parents are coming to visit me at my home. I am livid for many reasons. My mother thinks I am overreacting and says that I should “put family first” and “give my grandparents a chance to take pictures with their first great-grandchild.”

    I have tried to call my Aunt to cancel, but I have not been able to reach her yet. Am I overreacting? Does anyone have any advice?

    • A thought

      It seems that your mother’s parents are trying to mend fences. Perhaps they have had their burning bush moment and are desperately trying to right their wrongs.

      Why are you so opposed to this?

      [I grant you that you’re in the right re inviting people to someone’s house (and for historical reasons, regard your mother as the hostess of your wedding, so I give her a pass there), but there seems to be an overwhelmingly noble sentiment behind this and your grandparents won’t live forever.]

      And for advice, I have:
      breathe
      forgive
      look forward with hope and love (if your mother is talking to her parents, I would follow that lead)

    • Anonymous

      I mean, they were hideously racist 40 years ago, yes. But now they seem to be trying to fix that. They’ll probably die soon so I don’t really see a huge crisis in letting them meet your infant. I mean, you don’t need to have a really close relationship but a cup of tea and some stale cookies doesn’t seem like too heavy a lift.

      • Idea

        Yeah, my older brother has 1 picture with our great-grandfather, whom I never met because he then died.
        And our great-grandmother got visits from us in her Alzheimer’s unit in the nursing home, but certainly did not know us. We know her, and our family values, because of how our grandparents treated them – and yes, stories of how the older generation treated the younger generation.

        You can tell your own child the whole story – your whole story – soon enough.

    • a good book

      “Dare to Foregive” by Ned Hallowell is a good book and is on Amazon, so even the reviews give you a flavor of it. The bottom line is that even if someone has hurt you, and even if they are unrepentant, forgiveness is important because it releases you from the hurt. It is a gift you give yourself.

    • Hildegarde

      I agree with the other posters that if your grandparents have repented their prior terrible behavior, nursing a grudge is unlikely to do anyone, including you, any good. I don’t think it’s good to get into a mindset of holding on to anger and resentment, even if the behavior justified those feelings. So, I would allow your grandparents to come and meet your baby.

      However, at some point I think true repentance would include an apology to your mother, and to you for (from what I understand from your story) neglecting their granddaughter until this point in your life. Mind you, I am not saying you should only forgive them and move on if they apologize (I think forgiveness is necessary for your own well-being no matter what their behavior is). But if they refuse to apologize, and just want to be welcomed back into your life with no mention of the past, I would really struggle to have a relationship with them.

      In any case, a conversation with your mother in which you reiterate that it is under no circumstances acceptable for her to invite people to your house without checking with you seems in order.

      • Anon4This

        My issue is two-fold.

        1. Bewitched hit the nail on the head below. Just because my mom has made up, does not mean I need to have a relationship with these people. They have never reached out to me directly to arrange social events.

        2. It is my understanding that they apologized to my mom, but not to my dad. My dad has been present at family functions and they say nothing more than “hello” and “bye” to him. My father has said that he does not care about forming a relationship with them, but he continues to attend family functions with my mom because “happy wife, happy life.” Their lack of outreach to my father rubs me the wrong way.

        Overall, I am happy that my mom is happy to be talking with her parents again. I just do not want to have a relationship with them. But it seems the overall opinion is that I just suck it up and let them come.

        • anon

          Sometimes live has a way of giving us a choice between being the person we ought to be and being the person we want to be (for us: dealing with a sibling conceived from an affair, which is much easier for some siblings than for others; the adults are where our trouble is; the past is never quite in the past).

          Your family’s story is still being written. For you, for your child, for your mother, for your father, and for your grandparents. Your being a part of that story may make it better for everyone in it. Shutting it down lets the past live on longer than it should and speak louder than it should in the narrative. Participating opens up more possiblities for redemption, amends, and growth.

        • Anon

          Based on this, I agree that they still haven’t changed much. Apologizing to you and your dad and then giving more than lip service to mending fences would be a start. I don’t necessarily think that you need to back down and host them if it is uncomfortable.

        • Bee

          Why not take this visit as an opportunity to explain your feelings to them? You certainly deserve to be heard. Tell them that you’re hurt by their treatment of you and your father and see what their reaction is. At the very least you can tell your mom, hey I gave them a chance but they’re still dooshes and I want nothing to do with them.

          ETA: I agree with others, though, that your mom overstepped here and that merits its own conversation.

        • Brunchaholic

          I can 100% see why you are still upset. My mother married outside of her race and had several family members stop speaking to her over it. Although everyone has made up now, I think that being the direct product of a biracial marriage that people disapproved of is a feeling that is very hard to explain to people that don’t have first-hand experience of it. Even now, it’s extremely hurtful when I hear other family members comment about their daughters dating outside of their race is a negative way. It’s hard not to take that as them seeing you as less of a person and certainly inferior. Others might disagree, but I think that this is one of those racial things that some people have difficulty to relate to.

          I also see why this huge desire to have a relationship with your child is not particularly moving to you the way it is to some other commenters. Where was this desire when you were born? They forfeited the “blood relative” card years ago, and I don’t blame you for having no patience. This isn’t about your ability to forgive. You seem to be fine, but someone who just doesn’t have the desire to make room in your life for someone who cut you out of theirs years ago and is now remorseful.

          Also- they reached out when your mother’s father got sick. That’s not exactly changing. That’s just someone facing their mortality and having regrets. Which they should have. Doesn’t mean they don’t still think everything they did before about your parents’ marriage.

          • Alana

            I agree with Brunchaolic, as it does not appear that the OP’s grandparents apologized to you or your father, and a near-deathbed apology to her mother has undercurrents of motivations that are not entirely pure.

            After reading advice columns for years, it appears that people from healthy, happy functioning families live on one planet, and people from dysfunctional families live on another. Bridging the gap is challenging, and imagining life on the other planet is also difficulty. There are people, such as the OP, who have valid reasons to cut certain relatives out of her life.

            I also wonder if the baby’s father is from the same ethnic group as the grandparents, so the child’s background or appearance is more acceptable to them.

    • Advice-worth what you paid. ..

      First I would say get thee to captainawkward (.) Com. There’s always great advice about these kinds of family situations.

      Also, sit down and think. Why do you not want anything to do with them? On behalf of your mom? Because she seems to be over it. On behalf of your dad? That makes more sense to me, but have you/can you talk to him about it? Because he might be over it too. Because they’re racist? Do you know they still are? Do you think they would be rude, terrible, judgy? Maybe they learned and changed?

      But ultimately, you have to do what you think is best for you, and if that doesn’t include seeing them, then go to a movie on Tuesday and turn off your phone. Put the ball in your mother’s court to notify them, she’s the one who scheduled this without your input.

      “Sorry, please let them know I’m not available that day and will not be home.”

      “What day would be better?”

      “None.”

      However, it does seem like the whole family is on board the “grandparents have changed” bandwagon, so you and your spouse need to weigh for yourself what you’re comfortable with. Is it worth not seeing your aunt to avoid your grandparents? Only you can answer these questions.

    • Anon in NYC

      I will dissent from what some PPs have said. I think you are fully entitled to not have a relationship with your grandparents, regardless of what your mother wants. And, having grown up without them in your life, I completely understand why you have no desire to see them and perhaps feel a bit hostile towards them because of their racist views. Your mother is ignoring your wishes and has invited these people to your house – I’d be livid too.

      I have no real suggestions – you could, of course, just suck it up and allow them to meet your son, because, really, what’s the harm? It doesn’t mean that you’re inviting them to become a participant in your or his life. You can reject further advances by them, and tell your mother explicitly that she is not to interfere in this in the future.

      Or you can cancel. There will be fall out with your mom, and possibly your aunt, but if you’re fine with that, there’s no problem there either.

    • Anon

      Will you regret saying no? They are certainly horrible parents and grandparents, and you are in your right to not want to visit with them, but it’s about more than just you and would probably make your mother very happy because it is probably a big regret in her life. Having them over doesn’t mean you’ll have to like them or bless their past behavior. It was presumptuous for your mom to include them knowing how you feel. In my family we’d awkwardly dance around the topic and never mention how we feel, but maybe it would be cathartic to speak to your grandparents on the phone and disinvite them and let them know that you can’t get past their behavior/beliefs. Of course that could be much more trouble than it’s worth.

    • LawDawg

      I married outside of my religion and my parents did not attend the wedding and didn’t talk to my husband for 10+ years. Eventually there was reconciliation because as angry as I was, I knew that those are the only parents I’ve got. In your case, you do have another set of grandparents, but your mom has only one set of parents and they are only asking for an afternoon. Find out what it would mean for your mom to see a picture of her parents holding their great-grandchild. If you allow them to come, think of it as something you are doing for your mother, not necessarily for her parents.

      I hope you can allow them to visit. Even after all of the [insert bad word here], they are still family.

    • Jordan

      Man. That is tough. I am not sure what to say except that I am sorry they are such jerks and you had to go through all this. Everything I can think to say seems jerky too. I will just make a list.

      You don’t want your kid to have an opportunity to be mad at you for cutting them out the same way they cut you out. Maybe they have life insurance? Fake it? Free college….?
      They must feel terrible right? Hopefully? If you are sweeter than pie to their faces it will just make their guilt that much worse?

      That’s all I really have to add. Good luck.

    • JBB

      Families are tough. Sounds like you just aren’t ready for mending fences yet. I’d try to gracefully decline their visit with Aunt (if that’s possible), and give yourself permission to still be mad. But if you do that, also make yourself start thinking about forgiving. You’ll be happy for it in the long run.

  20. Bewitched

    I think the bigger issue is that mom and aunt are not respecting her daughter’s feelings. Daughter said no, she didn’t want mom’s parents to come visit. It’s great that mom has made up with/forgiven her parents, but she doesn’t get to force her daughter to abandon any feelings/views that she has. I’d apologize to aunt but tell her she’ll have to come back (alone) another day.

    • anon

      I disagree. There is a much bigger picture than that.

      The mom was done the wrongest of all here. And yet she is talking to her parents.

      I think the daughter needs to respect her mother more, bite her tongue, and see how this plays out.

      • Anon

        Except these people are racist against OP’s dad, which means they were racist against OP’s heritage, too. They may have treated their daughter terribly, but OP has reason to believe she might be subject to their racism. Maybe they’re no longer bigots, or maybe they’re just old and lonely. No one should be required to be nice to people who are prejudiced against them.

      • Brit

        I kind of hate this theory that just because they’re your parents you have to respect the crap-tastic choices they make, even when that choice is to disrespect you and your choices.

        Yes, it is her grandparents and her mother is trying to make a relationship, but would you tell her to stand for this kind of behavior from a friend who treated her terribly before and now just wants to weasel their way in, with no apparent apology? In two years, she’s talked to her grandparents twice. She doesn’t say whether they did make other attempts at contact in those two years and she rebuffed them or not, but either way she’s made the decision not to have a relationship with them. Her mother needs to respect that decision.

        You don’t have to put with someone just because they’re related to you by blood.

        • anon

          You can make new friends.

          What happened 40 years ago was probably a not-uncommon knee-jerk reaction. It is unfortunate. Leave that as a wrong that isn’t righted seems to be the wrong path to take. The wrong can’t be righted if there’s no audience with the family.

          I’m not psychic, but I doubt the meeting would happen without the mother thinking there’s a good reason for it. Sure, they could be coming over to be vile (or they simply are vile), but my money’s not on that.

          • Anonymous

            A knee jerk reaction in this case I think would have been OPs mom and parents having a falling out lasting a few years at most. To not talk to your child for nearly 40 years (!!) AND to not care to come around when OP was born is way beyond “kneejerk reaction that wasn’t uncommon at the time.” I vote that OP isn’t overreacting at all. I also think there’s a difference between OP meeting grandparents, possibly making nice, possibly saying what she thinks about things, which I suspect would probably be healthy in the long run. Bringing OPs child into it to have some kind of relationship with great grandparents is a totally different matter and I think not at all desirable here, unless OP decides she feels like it.

    • rosie

      Yes, I agree that the bigger issue is your mom and aunt trying to get around your express wishes. If they think you should give your grandparents a chance, the way to try to convince you is not by trying to trick you into having them to your home.

      That said, I would encourage you to think about getting to know your grandparents, and then, depending on how that goes, let them get to know your child (and I, personally, would make that the sequence, not they come take photos with your child right now, although I know this may complicate logistics). If you wanted to go down this route, tell your aunt you would love to see her as planned, but you are not ready to have your grandparents over and meet your child quite yet.

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    • Alana

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