Coffee Break: Geometric Print Scarf

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Tory Burch Geometric Print Scarf | CorporetteOooh, pretty! This scarf feels like summer to me — the orange! the red! the yellow! the teensy pop of blue! Love it. It's a linen blend, also perfect for summer. It's $155 at Nordstrom. Tory Burch Geometric Print Scarf Here's a lower-priced scarf in a similar print. (L-3)

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  1. Question: I applied for a job with a big corporation several weeks ago through their online system and also sent my cover letter and resume to a contact found on LinkedIn who worked in that department. She wrote back within an hour (!) to say she would have her manager flag my name and to give them a couple weeks to get a list of candidates together. I decided to press my luck and ask if we could meet to discuss her experience in the group, but she said she would be OOT during that time and maybe when she got back.

    Do I reach out again when she’s back to schedule that coffee chat? I have an interview with the group but won’t know the interviewers’ names until just before my interview date (lots of layers in their recruiting dept). I wasn’t sure if she was flippantly saying “maybe when I return” or really meant it. Probably overthinking if it hurts to ask or not, but welcome any thoughts.

    1. I think it would be worth it to reach out again. If she doesn’t want to meet for coffee, she’ll let you know. I don’t think it ever hurts to follow up when you’ve received a fairly positive reaction.

    2. You’re definitely overthinking. It never hurts to ask as long as you do it very politely, and leave them an out to say no. And do not constantly harass them with multiple requests. But you haven’t done that yet. She seems to be reacting positively, go for it!

    3. Yes. Allow them to say no. I had a very similar situation and, frankly, I’m not meeting with the candidate for lots of reasons I won’t get into. But, I did not appreciate when I got pressed on why not or when she sent a zillion different dates she was available. Sometimes, the answer is just no.

      1. Thanks everyone for the advice! And especially Anon2’s comment to leave her an out – I’m currently in a role that requires persuasion and never letting someone say no – helps to be reminded to dial that down at times. Appreciate all the help!

  2. Reposting from the end of the morning thread –

    A close friend will be relocating to West Virginia (specifically, South Charleston). I wanted to get her a “welcome!” gift to her new city (a restaurant gift cert, or similar) – is anyone familiar with the area and do you have a recommendation? I know nothing about WV.

    1. I don’t know that much about Charleston, but it’s not too far away from the Greenbrier Resort, and a gift card for the Greenbrier would be nice. I just looked at the website, and they do have gift cards you can purchase. That being said, it’s not an in-town thing, definitely something for the weekend.

      1. Or any number of the ski/4-seasons resorts like Snowshoe, Canaan, Timberline, Silver Creek, Elk Springs, rafting the New/Gauley rivers, national forests, etc. West Virginia is a goldmine of outdoor activities, but fairly lacking in culture/entertainment.

        1. As a WV native, I do not think we are lacking in culture or entertainment. It may not be the endless 24/7 options available in New York City, but there is plenty to do. Although I no longer live there, I treasure the experiences I had growing up, which included the ballet, plays, symphonies, hiking, rafting, and so much more. In my small town, it was just more “The ballet is coming so you’d better get tickets because they won’t be back until next year,” not “The ballet is always going on somewhere.” Charleston will have more opportunities for culture than I ever had. The WV Symphony Orchestra is headquartered in Charleston. There is also a Cultural Center featuring performances and local crafts. A short drive away (and admittedly, we define that differently than others might) is Tamarack, the Best of West Virginia, a notable arts and crafts marketplace featuring visiting artists and a huge array of beautiful goods. I’d say get your friend a state park pass, except that in West Virginia admittance is free!

      2. A gift card to a local eatery would be great. I would recommend Black Sheep or Pies & Pints.

        Those are establishments in this town. Your friend will almost certainly end up eating / drinking at one of those restaurants. They’re also nice places, and will be a good introduction to the city.

    2. WV resident here (though up in Wheeling which is basically a Pittsburgh suburb) and I second and third and fourth the Greenbrier. The spa in particular is fab, but my SO loves golfing there as well.

      I have spent some time in Charleston too. If you want a restaurant I would suggest South Hills Market and Cafe. Or, for something more fun and closer to downtown, there is a great little taco spot named Black Sheep Burritos and Brews that offers a variety of unique tacos (think duck tacos, bulgogi tacos, thai shrimp tacos, etc.) and a great beer list.

    3. Hi! I live in Huntington, which is about 35 miles from where your friend will be living. Bridge Road Bistro is a really nice restaurant in Charleston. It is in a nice area on a pretty hillside with lots of other boutique-style shops. I like to take out-of-town guests there. http://thebridgeroadbistro.com/ I also love Bluegrass Kitchen, which is a little more casual (http://www.bluegrasswv.com/). For great Italian food, try Soho’s in Capitol Market (http://www.capitolmarket.net/ has a link) or Fazio’s (http://www.fazios.net/).

      If you or your friend has any questions about Charleston or WV, she is welcome to email me at wvrette @ gmail. I moved back to this area a few years ago and I really love living here.

    4. Just typed a long reply that I think ended up in moderation (probably for links). Short version: I live in Huntington, which is about 35 miles from where your friend will be living. I assume my other comment will eventually make it out of moderation, but if you or your friend have any questions about Charleston or WV, email me at wvrette at gmail. I moved back to this area a few years ago and I really love living here.

    5. All of these responses about restaurants in Charleston are great – I drive through there a few times a year, but would never have had a clue of any place to stop for lunch other than fast food near the highway. Thanks to everyone for the replies, even though it wasn’t my initial query!

  3. Ooooh! This is SUCH a pretty scarf! And it’s at NORDSTROM’s! I have to show the manageing partner, b/c this is alot cheeper then a Prada scarf and if he approves it Rosa can look and buy it for me! YAY!

    I have to bring some Chocolate Syrup to Rosa’s which we put on the matzas for the kids, who will ONLEY eat it with the syrup. Rosa did other thing’s with MAPEL syrup, but now that she is MARRIED and with kid’s, it’s strictly used to bribe the kid’s to eat their food. Grandma Trudy asked if I would get some fish cakes and REAL horse radish for her downtown, which I agreed to do. I have to go to the Houston Street stop on the 6 today, so will be leaveing early. That is why I am p’osting so early! FOOEY b/c I perfer to see what other’s say and then help them out with my OWN insight, but I can’t wait today b/c she need’s the fish cake’s for the meal Friday nite. I told her it was ONLEY Tuesday, but she says that once the fish cake’s are gone, she will not be abel to get any of them else where. FOOEY, b/c I do NOT like to eat old fish, which does NOT smell fresh.

    Some guy was stareing at me in the elevator today. I think he knows we are new here so I tried to be freindley to him. I hope I can meet a decent guy now that we are on 3rd Avenue. YAY!!!

  4. I am a fourth-year lit associate looking to lateral. Is it bad form to go through an entire interview process, and but ultimately turn down an offer?

    1. Who care’s? If it is NOT a good fit, do NOT take the job just to avoid someone telling you it is “bad form” to turn down an offer. You would not sleep with a schlub b/c it was “bad form” to turn down the schlub after he paid for your dinner, would you? I would NOT think so. So isn’t haveing to go to work with a bunch of schlubs you do NOT like so much worse? Do you realy care about form if there are 10 guy’s pinching your tuchus every day? I would NOT, and neeither should you! I hope other’s agree. I have to go buy some fish cake’s but will be back on line later from HOME on my WIRELESS ROOTER! YAY!!!!

    2. No, people turn down offers for all sorts of reasons. However, some reasons are more acceptable than others. For example, I certainly wouldn’t tell them that you went through the process just to see what was out there.

      1. +1

        It also doesn’t reflect well on you if you go through the entire process and then turn down an offer for something you learned about prior to interviewing or in the very early stages (ex: if the salary range was disclosed prior to interviewing, then going all four rounds before turning it down b/c of $$ is not cool).

      2. Agreed. Another potential problem is if the reason you turn down the job is something you should have known before you walked into the interview. A firm got mad at me once because their offer was in the range that they had communicated to the recruiter, but the recruiter hadn’t communicated that to me and apparently ignored my stated salary requirements. The miscommunication was obviously on the recruiter, but there were sore feelings all around.

  5. Are any of you curly-haired women who blow-dry your hair straight? I recently started doing so, and I think it flatters my face a lot (I have received a ton of backhanded compliments from people about how my hair looks much better than it used to). However, I tend to get a ton of tangles, especially near the nape of my neck. I suspect this is a combination of natural curl + current length (bra line-ish). Plus maybe the fact that it is 4+ months since my last trim. I have tried braiding it at night and brushing it in the morning and at night to counter, but with limited success. Any tips? Commiseration? Do I just need to keep it shorter? TIA.

    1. Surprisingly normal. Try more/better conditioner. I’m naturally straight-haired and have trouble keeping nape tangles from happening, and the blow-dryer doesn’t help matters.

    2. Try getting a trim before cutting more length–and talk to the person who does your hair about solutions. I find the tangles that form at the nape of my neck and with my jewelry happen less after a trim. Though, YMMV b/c I don’t have curly hair.

    3. My hair is curly and I blow dry it straight regularly (and usually curl it with a curling iron). I don’t have the problem with the tangles but I feel you on those backhanded comments. I don’t wear my hair naturally curly anymore so they have died down, but they used to make me nuts whenever someone told me they liked my hair better straight. I realize I was being super sensitive, but it always felt like a rejection of my natural hair, especially when they came from people close to me.

    4. Honestly, one thing abotu the comments I would consider is that it’s not that they honestly prefer it curly or straight, but they are noting the change. I have blown dry and straigtened my hair since high school, but recently (post-baby) started wearing it natural and wavy more often. I always get comments on it. I think it’s really more of not looking the same as what people previously expected me to look like and commenting on it, rather than actually prefering the curly.

      1. +1. I tend to notice and compliment women who stop straightening their naturally curly hair. But then, I’ve got naturally straight/flat/limp hair, so it’s a greener grass thing . . .

    5. Commiseration; I have a natural curl-wave and very thick hair, and I get those nape of neck tangles when I wear it curly and when I wear it straight. Mine get to the point where I will have a dreadlock develop from morning until evening. This is usually in the winter with wool coats and blazers.

      The only way I can think of to prevent it is a leave-in treatment. I don’t typically like them because they weigh my curl down, but I will put it just on the underside. I also make sure I comb through my conditioner in the shower very very well — sometimes if you just spread it on the outside it doesn’t penetrate to the place I get tangles because of the thickness.

    6. I have curly hair that I blow dry straight and this happens to me too. The only thing I have found that helps is to brush it out a couple of times a day. I keep a brush in my desk and just run it through a few times.

    7. I have super curly hair that goes down a few inches past my shoulders. Aveda products work AMAZING at keeping it from getting tangled curly or straight depending on how I am wearing it. Their Be Curly and Be Straight lines are perfect. I also get my hair trimmed on a regular basis, otherwise there is no product in the world that can help it. So the 4 months could definitely by a huge factor. It doesn’t necessarily have to be shorter, just remove all the dead ends.

  6. I was promoted last month and as part of the promotion I am managing a team of 4. I’ve been with my firm for 5 years. Everybody else on my team has been with the firm for less than 2 years, although the most senior individual has been performing in a similar role for slightly longer than I have.

    My problem is one particular report of mine. She is snide and dismissive in her tone with me. She does not show up to my meetings (either group or individually) and then says that she had nothing to share when I ask why she didn’t come. She interrupts me more often than not. It feels like Mean Girls from high school all over again and I do not known how to address this.

    This coming June I will have to deliver a performance review to her and I have no idea what to say. I’m grateful for her work product but the attitude is toxic. I feel that much of her behavior (especially her tone) is difficult to describe in concrete terms, so I would have to use a lot of “I feel” when that is a no-no from what I’ve read on this site.

    Help?

    1. Talk about it with co-manager, someone on your level or above, at your firm.
      Not being a team player is definitely worthy of a performance improvement plan, IMO. The goal of a meeting is not necc. to share what you know, but to build team mentality and learn to work with others. It sounds very toxic, and you need to address this sooner (April, May) rather than later (June). Tell her you’re giving out gift cards to people at the meeting to get her there? I dunno, but this is A Big Deal, your first (and very direct) challenge as a Manager.

      1. Agree with most of this except the gift card idea! You shouldn’t have to bribe employees to do their jobs and doing so will only make you look weak to an already insubordinate employee.

    2. I would search the archives at askamanager.org for some help with this. I think you’ll get much better info there. I will say that in my experience, it’s completely fair to say that her attitude is toxic and negatively impacts how you view her good work. If it’s hard to describe concretely, can you at least give concrete examples with consequences? “You showed up 20 minutes late to X meeting, which negatively impacted the outcome in Y way.”

      But seriously, get thee to AAM.

      1. +1 to AAM

        +1 to sooner, rather than later. Don’t let the performance review be the first time you say anything to her.

        1. This. Let her outright that attendance at meetings is not discretionary and document her disobeyance.

      2. A poor attitude and rudeness are definitely reasons to give her feedback, and I agree to do it sooner (like, this week) rather than later. It’s not good to spring bad feedback on someone for the first time in their annual review.

        It doesn’t sound like you need to use “I feel” statements; just explain how her rudeness makes her difficult to work with, and the impact her not showing up to meetings has on the work.

    3. Most of your 2nd paragraph is an evaluation of her behavior that doesn’t use “I feel” statements. If you expand on those with more specific examples, that could be the basis of a performance review. I agree with other posters that this should be addressed sooner rather than later.

    4. I’d say leave out more subjective things like her tone and focus on the concrete things she does or fails to do and explain their impacts on the work and the people around her. Then you can give action items and lay out what the consequences are if she doesn’t shape up.

      – I need you to attend all team meetings or decline with a concrete reason why you won’t be there (e.g. doctor’s appt)
      – I need you not to interrupt me when I am speaking
      – etc
      – If you cannot make these changes by (date) then (X) will happen (performance plan, other discipline?)

      1. ^ This!

        Does she interrupt you in front of other people, or only one on one? It is blatantly disrespectful either way, but how you handle it would vary based on the answer.

        If she does it one on one, I would interrupt her right back, saying “I’m not finished. You will have a chance to respond when I’m done,” and then go on with what you were saying.

        If it’s in a group, I would say “(Name), I’m still speaking,” and go on, but then hold her back when the group left to tell her that she cannot interrupt when you are speaking, that you respect her opinions, but she needs to learn to wait her turn to speak. If she is concerned that she won’t get a turn, tell her that you will take responsibility for ensuring that she does.

    5. Yes, meet with her on this sooner than later. Her review should not be the first time she hears this from you.

      I’d say leave out more subjective things like her tone and focus on the concrete things she does or fails to do and explain their impacts on the work and the people around her. Then you can give action items and lay out what the consequences are if she doesn’t shape up.

      – I need you to attend all team meetings or decline with a concrete reason why you won’t be there (e.g. doctor’s appt)
      – I need you not to interrupt me when I am speaking
      – etc
      – If you cannot make these changes by (date) then (X) will happen (performance plan, bad review, no raise, whatever applies)

      1. I think that if you think you are going to give her a negative review you need to document the issue well beforehand.

        I would send an email out to all individuals that you manage cheerfully and clearly informing them of your expectations (attending all meetings, sharing certain types of info in certain ways, responding to emails, treating you and all other team members with respect, etc.) Then when she fails to meet your expectations (ie does not show up to a scheduled meeting, is rude to you or others, etc) then inform her in writing of that issue and ask her to speak with you about the matter. Finally, send her a follow up email regarding the meeting you had (meeting can just be coffee and something informal to start, escalating to more serious disciplinary matters) and recapping how you would like to see her bahviour to change and any other coaching you need to do.

        Then repeat as necessary.

        1. +1

          Attendance at meetings should be easy to document. But if she is coming and is rude, explain to a manager or co-manager you are close with. Ask them to come to one meeting with you and if she takes the moment to be unprofessional, let you manager friend step in to tell her. Usually it just takes once and then the problem goes away. This person might just need to know, without a doubt, that the higher ups support you, chose you, and so she is required to listen to you.

  7. I love this scarf except for the logo. The colors and pattern are gorgeous, and the weight is really versatile. It would look amazing with a navy trenchcoat.

  8. TJ if this is okay–

    My partner just graduated from our undergraduate and is trying to apply for jobs to tide him over until he can save enough money for further education–BUT he hasn’t heard back from most jobs from our school’s job board, and what he has heard has been no. I (thankfully) was hired by a family friend straight out of college and have never had to deal with this—any pointers? We don’t even know where to begin.

    1. Finding a job can be hard. Keep applying. Look outside of your school’s job board. Network with others. Eventually something will come up.

    2. Can he go onto LinkedIn, find alumni from your school who work in fields he is interested in, and message them to set up informational interviews? Alumni often like to help out newer grads, and the bigger his network of “potential people who might hire me or know someone who is hiring,” the better. Good luck!

      1. + 1 Networking is important. Reach out to other alumni. Do informational interviews. Attend career fairs/events etc. Also this is often overlooked:work on his cover letters and resume. When you can’t get in front of an actual person to represent yourself, this is the only thing they will judge you on.

      2. I’ll definitely suggest these to him! And see if he’ll relinquish his cover letters and resume…he’s a stubborn one! He’s in mass media arts, which is entirely out of my depth but the principles are still the same. Thank you so much for your advice!

    3. Search company websites directly for job postings. Don’t just rely on your undergrad career board. If your undergrad has a decent alumni network, he should try to get involved in alumni networking events. They’re awkward, but he has a chance of speaking to someone there who could help him.

      Has he had any internships in fields relevant to what he wants to do? He should get in touch with the people he worked with and take them for coffee. He should ask them if the company is hiring, and if the person would be willing to pass along his resume.

      Make sure his resume is polished and highlights appropriate experience (nobody cares if you were a lifeguard in high school).

      He should also be contacting Career Services and using their resources as much as possible. He should do mock interviews with them as well.

    4. 1) See if there’s a professional association in his field nearby, and also check if they offer a formal mentorship program (if not, see if you can email a coordinator and ask if they know of anyone in the org who might be willing to serve as a mentor). I did, and I’m 100% positive my mentor would’ve gotten me an entry level job in her company, but I ended up finding a better offer elsewhere. They also have local connections so when you’re applying, make sure to check with your mentor to see if they have an “in” at the company.
      2) Intern. It’s less than ideal, but you’re often still eligible after graduation to intern, and it can lead to a stronger resume and job prospects at the company.
      3) Use an actual job board in addition to the school’s career site (I like Indeed). Set up alerts for companies you’re interested in working at. Apply like crazy.
      4) My mentor recommended that I do a crap ton of informational interviews with HR people at my target companies. Good advice. I never did it because I was slammed, but definitely consider doing this.

  9. 1. What do you think is a reasonable amount of shoes to have in rotation if you live in a place that has four very distinct seasons? This is including pumps, snow boots, rain boots, flats, sneakers, wedges, etc.

    2. For those of you who work in very casual environments, if you had to pick three shoes for spring transitions (to go with jeans), what would you pick?

    1. LOL. I have so many shoes! Here they are organized by season.

      Winter snow boots
      Winter “professional” snow boots
      Winter mocs for just a dusting of snow
      Dress boots – black and brown
      Dress ankle booties for work

      Oxfords and loafers for spring
      Rain boots (tall)

      Sneakers, various (gym, walking, 2 pairs of ‘cute’ sneakers)

      Ballet flats (black, yellow, red, purple, silver, gold) for summer
      Commuting sandals
      Knock-around sandals (old commuter sandals, no longer nice)
      Water sandals
      Flip flops

      Pumps – rarely worn
      Air Tali wedges – 2
      Fancy heels for occasions (5?)

      1. Sometimes I want to direct my DH to this blog so he can read about how many articles of clothing, shoes, and accessories others own so he stops picking on me for having “so much stuff”.

    2. I don’t know but I have two shelves filled with shoes and it’s not enough – office shoes, field visit shoes, fancy shoes (American and Desi), workout shoes, casual shoes, and more. It’s embarrassing, actually. So I’m going to skip to question #2. My three pairs would be casual sneakers (like Vans), loafers/oxfords, and booties.

    3. A reasonable amount is n+1, with n = the number of shoes you currently own.

    4. 1) Maybe on the low end, but I’d say at least 8 to average out about two per season? Possibly even up that to twelve – I don’t know how many pairs I actually own but I do wear around 9 pairs regularly over the four seasons.

      2) sneakers*, ankle booties, and a pair of tortoise shell flats.

      *sneakers and steel toe boots due to field work

  10. I bought similar scar from Tory Burch last year and was disappointed with the quality. Threads are getting caught in everything and get easily distorted. I would not pay >100$ for that.

    1. $155 for a linen/viscose blend? Pshk, no way. This isn’t even silk handspun by unicorns on Mars. No more than $50/scarf. Just, no.

    2. I don’t understand why anyone buys Tory Burch. It seems like all of her products are overpriced and not better quality that less expensive items. Am I missing something? Why do people like Tory Burch???

      1. I don’t get it either. Looks good from afar but once up close the quality just isn’t there.

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