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fall shoes
Fun topic – What shoes are you all wearing for fall weather? I’m talking weather where you aren’t yet in boots and maybe not even in socks!
Anon
Sneakers.
NY CPA
+1 I wear sneakers in all seasons. Almost never cold enough that I wish for something else. If I need to be dressier, I will wear flats or loafers.
bird in flight
Cream colored platform mule heels
Black Birk clogs
Pink sneakers with a platform sole
I’ll probably save my Chelsea booties for winter, or at least as late into the fall as I can.
Right now though it’s 100 degrees outside and definitely still summer, so green birk Arizona sandals.
Anon
Ha — it is a million degrees. Which is good — will watch what you cooler climate people do b/c I don’t understand clothes and none of my work pants fit. I also don’t understand shoes, except that I think I need either flats, flatform shoes, or boots with some sort of chunky heel. But exactly what — I can’t visualize that yet, so I dare not shop.
Cat
It won’t be “fall weather” until like mid October so I’m sticking with cute sandals (brown leather looks good into fall) and sneakers until my feet actually get cool at night!
anon
Birks for as long as I can, an olive green pair of Sorel sandals, and cream New Balance retro sneaks.
anon
Also, for Birks lovers, my local store has a cute pair of gold buckle Arizonas that are navy blue uppers with a black footbed.
Anonymous
I don’t think I’d call no-sock weather fall, but I’m wearing leather sneakers with no-show socks at the moment. When it starts to feel like fall, the socks will get taller, but shoes will stay for a while.
Anne-on
Ugh, this is the reminder I needed to go with my family to the local outdoor store and try on winter boots as all of our ‘walking around in MA in winter’ boots have collectively been outgrown or worn out. I usually go with duck boots until real winter sets in at which point I swap to Sorel’s ‘fashion’ boots – the ‘Joan Now’ and ‘Emelie’ both look like good options. Thankfully I can fit into ‘big kid’ sizes which gives me more colorful, cheaper options for ‘real’ snow boots. We found out my middle schooler can use my snow boots in a pinch which made me a little weepy last winter.
Vicky Austin
I had Sorel Joan of Arctics when we lived in the Midwest and mostly remember how damn heavy they were all the time. Are those models you named lighter? (and/or will you report back how they feel if you try them?)
Shelle
Zappos lists the weight for all their shoes if they’re sold there?
Mpls
Not OP, but will weigh in that the Joan Nows are different than the Joan of Arctics. And yes, much lighter. I had a pair of these (joan now) that were my go-to all winter last year.
JoA were proper winter duck boots with a frost plugged sole. Sorel has a lot of other styles that not winter boots, but have a decent lug sole for winter snow traction (Joan Now). Basically – I wear the winter boots (JoA) for shoveling/snow blowing, but wear the fashion styles for walking to the car and wearing around indoors in the winter.
Anne-on
A big plus one to all of this -LLbean duck boots are for chilly and wet but not super cold weather (usually till December). The Joan Now boots will be my daily wear Jan-March so I don’t wipe out in the parking lot which will inevitably have some ice/snow despite plowing/shoveling. The Joan of Arctic is for active snow time (shoveling, snow shoeing, etc.). I specifically have the kids version of the Joan of Arctic because the adult version is very heavy and comes up to a very awkward point on my upper calf that made them hard to wrestle on (I’m only 5’4, it would be fine for someone 5’6 or higher I think).
Anon
It won’t really be fall here for a while.
I’m currently wearing a Birkenstock PVC sandal on one foot and a surgical sandal on the other – broken foot.
I’m two more weeks in the boot & then I’m sure I will be advised to wear some sort of supportive shoe for another month at least. If any of you have suggestions in this vein I am all ears!
eertmeert
I wore Danskos – boots and sandals – for a year after I was in a boot for a foot fracture.
The worst part was that the shoes I wore during my surgical boot time were not exactly the same height as the boot, so I had some hip issues that have still not evened out 8 years later. I got them close, but the unevenness still threw off my alignment. So make sure to keep an eye on that as you transition back to two shoes.
Anon
Thank you. Exactly why I’m wearing the PVC Birkenstock on the other foot – is precisely the same height as my surgical sandal
Anonymous
Clogs or Birks.
Anonymous
It’s still a million degrees here so I’m still wearing the sneakers I’ve been wearing all summer (with socks, because ew otherwise).
Haven’t gone fall shoe shopping yet, so not sure what I’ll be wearing.
Anon
I just go straight from sandals to sneakers
Trish
In Florida, we wear boots the first day it gets down to 70.
Anonymous
is anyone in family counseling? what is it like? our 8yo has behavior problems and is a major source of stress and strife for me, husband, and our older daughter
Smokey
I’m not currently so since my children are now grown, but many years ago my then young son was in therapy for many years due to his extreme behavior problems and it was a lifesaver for him and the entire family. Literally. While not technically family counseling, the whole family was involved to some degree, especially my husband and me.
Anon
Thought about commenting earlier, but I was waiting to see if anyone that has more recent experience would comment. My family went to family counseling years and years ago when I was a teenager when my older brother had behavior problems. He and my parents had been in counseling off and on for years before this. (He had underlying mental health issues)
I can tell you from a sibling participating perspective, I have mixed feelings about family counseling. While it was somewhat helpful to better understand the dynamics of the family and how these dynamics impacted the points of contention in our family, as a sibling, being in family therapy made me feel even more powerless in addressing issues that ultimately I had no control over. Frankly for me at that age, the feeling of absolute lack of control of the situation was exacerbated in family therapy. I learned that I could neither control my siblings behavior or my parents reactions to his behavior causing probably more anxiety for me than I otherwise would have had at that age.
I am a big proponent of counseling in general. I think attending counseling with the parents and the child that is having issues if beneficial. But from my limited experience, I don’t think that having an entire family in counseling is beneficial when the issue to be addressed is one particular child’s behavior. Others may have had a different experience, but you asked what it was like – and this is what it was like for me.
Anon
I’m considering going to a role in a boutique consulting firm that my old boss started 5 years ago. She has the equivalent of about 10 employees but on a contract basis and is moving to have full time employees. I’d be a senior level consultant. I started my career in a boutique firm but have been in in-house leadership roles for about 15 years. Since she’s just starting to have full time employees we’re trying to think about all the right terms. What would you be asking for in terms of incentive, billables, responsibilities outside of client work, business development, benefits, time off, etc. I’ve been in corporate too long! I’m already thinking about implications of a career move to a small firm, business climate and pipeline, work life balance etc. thanks!
Anon
I personally can’t imagine giving up the benefits of a leadership position in a company big enough to have an in-house department. There’d have to be a lot of issues to overcome the stability, likely better pay and benefits.
Ses
I would want equity for this jump and would want to come in as a partner. I mean, if you’re taking the risk of leaving an in-house leadership role, I would assume it would only be for the upside of ongoing payoff that scales based on the success of the business.
Anon
Since when is a hair or makeup professional giving feedback about hair or skin being unprofessional? If I have buildup in my hair, I want to know, and the only person who’s going to tell me is a hair stylist. It’s an easy thing to fix and can make your hair look a lot better. Same with oily skin – I have oily skin and I use a skincare routine tailored to that, which helps a ton.
Our worth as people isn’t tethered to our appearance, and we can have small points of feedback without feeling horrible about ourselves. Men can be told “you need to shave better” or that they dress poorly and then just take it as feedback to improve upon. I feel bad that we’re conditioned as women to wilt at even the slightest negative comment about our hair or appearance. Girl, you’re probably still pretty! You can have thin hair and oily skin and be gorgeous. You don’t need to be perfect in every single way physically to not fall apart emotionally, and insisting no one comment on anything physical ever, no matter how minute, lest it destroy our self-esteem, just feels infantilizing.
Anon
I agree with this. I also think it’s refreshing to be in situations where people just say what they think instead of filtering everything.
Anon
The previous poster was faced with a barrage of negativity on a day when she would be on display. Of course it bothered her. She wasn’t “wilting”. She was rightfully dismayed to be the recipient of multiple negative personal comments. I think you are reading some issue of your own into her comment. Otherwise your comment truly bemuses me. Or perhaps you’re one of those “I’m just telling the truth” people who thinks “the truth” excuses rudeness.
Anon
+1 I feel like I have really good body confidence for an elder millennial woman, but those comments would hit me hard. That’s totally inappropriate when she hasn’t solicited feedback about her appearance.
Anon
+1. “Girl, you’re probably still pretty!” is a weird-af compliment (if it’s a compliment at all)
anon
+1 There’s an enormous difference between someone who is paid to make someone look their best for a one-off important event name calling and pointing out perceived flaws that the professionals can’t fix in time for the event and one’s regular beauty professionals kindly and professionally giving requested advice.
It’s enormously even-keeled to just be unhappy with the service providers.
Anon
+1.
Anon
I agree with this, but calling someone “Little Miss Oily” is not providing helpful constructive feedback……I would be quite irritated at that too. It’s about delivery and intent. To claim not to see the difference between what you’re describing and what the OP this morning described is infantilizing IMO.
Anon
My guess is the poster earlier was probably more annoyed the tone and delivery. Just because they were hair or makeup professionals, doesn’t mean their delivery was professional. I don’t mind that feedback if it is shared in a professional tone and without some shaming undertones. A professional wouldn’t call someone “little miss oily.”
anon
To answer your question, when it’s not done in a professional manner. The description this morning was more than, say for example, “I notice you have a lot of buildup, have you tried using x, y, or z” or, “we have enough time, would you like me to wash your hair quickly.” Big picture, when you are doing hair or makeup as a one off for an event, the only stuff you address with someone is stuff that can be fixed that day – e.g., if you use these blotting papers, it will make your face less oily. Anything long term should be from someone you have a long-term relationship with, unless the question is solicited.
Anonymous
It’s unprofessional when it’s done in an unprofessional manner.
There is a huge difference between “I see your skin is more on the oily side, have you considered xyz or abc?” and calling someone “little miss oily”. One is feedback, the other is a personal insult. I’m sure you know that though.
My self-esteem isn’t tied to my apprearance and yet I would not take kindly to being called names and would likely provide some ‘feedback’ of my own…
anon
+1
Anon
I think the reactions are highlighting the difference between people who operate in a corporate world and those who do not. I suspect the makeup artist thought she was being funny and didn’t realize the sensitivity that people have been conditioned to have.
Anon
This actually seems worse in a customer service job context to me.
Anon
+100. I operate in the corporate world, and would find this totally offensive. And I work in communications so frequently have to coach executives on their appearance/tone etc. I would be fired if I handled it like those wedding vendors. It has nothing to do with “sensitivity people have been conditioned to have” – it’s about being straight up rude.
Anonymous
I worked a number of years in customer service and developed pretty thick skin, so someone like a makeup artist failing to read the room and ‘thinking they are funny’ would be told otherwise pretty quickly.
It really has nothing to do with “sensitivity”, and everything to do with professionalism.
anon
Uhh, I really don’t think the OP was being overly sensitive. Those comments were straight up bitchy, imo.
Anon
I’ve worked in both worlds, but this seemed like over-familiarity. Customer Service professionals should know better, especially if they want to be be successful at it. In OP’s shoes I’d give the feedback to the bride.
anon
There is a difference when the feedback is presented by a professional with whom you have a relationship, and someone you’ve literally met the day of a big event. If my regular stylist kindly said something about my hair condition, I’d listen. From some rando chosen by my friend? I’d find it insulting unless I asked for the feedback. It doesn’t sound like any of it was presented well or in a nonjudgmental fashion. (Little Miss Oily? Come on.)
Anon
Exactly this. The OP was there to get her hair and makeup done for an event, by vendors chosen by the bride. She isn’t developing a long term relationship with these people and never asked for their feedback.
AM OP
You have to try real hard to read my post that way. These were not good faith beauty tips. They were needlessly rude and often conflicting. Not to mention racist – I’m half Korean and the squinty eye thing from the photographer was… something. I’m always happy for advice! I’m not happy to be picked apart for hours by multiple people with no actual advice given. I feel so awful for vulnerable young women who are subjected to these people and people like them. No wonder so many young women suffer from low self esteem!
anon
Hey, I’m sorry that happened to you, and I don’t think you were imagining things at all. My sister had similar experiences with the bridal industry, as a bridesmaid in several weddings. And she was pretty young, and it absolutely had a negative effect on her. I don’t get it. Why behave that way?
Cerulean
“I didn’t expect to need such a pale color in the summer” is not remotely useful feedback. I also think there’s a difference between hair and makeup for a wedding and something like a makeup application lesson or a regular hair appointment.
Little Fig
+1000 it’s one thing if my hair dresser tells me I have build up or my Derm / facialist tells me I’m oily, but a complete other if it’s coming from someone fixing my hair/make-up for one event. It isn’t helpful, it isn’t professional, and it isn’t gaining them any future business.
Anon
It bothered me one time when I was getting wedding make up done and the make up artist asked for help for what to do about how my brows weren’t shaped and trimmed enough. I feel like she either should have said “I recommend a quick tweeze because I think it’s going to look better with the look I’m giving you; do you mind if I take a moment to do that?” or conversely, refrained from discussing this in a critical way right in front of me. (I was fine with my brows at the time–I guess I was an early adopter of the thicker brow look that took off not long after!–so I didn’t take it to heart, but it did seem like the wrong way to go about things to me.)
Anon
It’s unprofessional when it’s unprofessional? It’s fine for somebody to say “I’m going to do the following because your skin/hair has this issue.” Then, after they fix it (=their job), they can say “Here’s what I recommend you do going forward.” That wouldn’t bother anyone!
Anon
Their job isn’t to “give feedback” on someone’s appearance, it’s do to makeup and hair. Saying that hair won’t hold a curl so another style is recommended? Totally fine. Saying ew omg your hideous oily face is the reason why the foundation separated is not ok – it also probably means they’re a bad makeup artist. Imagine talking to your own clients like that.
Anon
I had a hair dresser who would also wax my eyebrows. She asked everytime if I needed my nails done and sometimes I said yes. I finally quit going after she kept asking if I wanted my upper lip waxed. I was 30 and had zero hair on my lip except the very normal about a microscopic fuzz all over my face. I knew my face was fine but I am not going to you if you are going to try to upcharge me by trying to make me think my face is not fine. (P.S. 25 years later, I have three stupid hairs that I shave off my lip).
Anon
what does it mean to be a ‘knowledge management partner’ in big law?
Anon
Specialize in e-discovery, likely non-equity.
Anon
It’s broader than e-discovery. Generally they provide specialized knowledge to a group and can update form documents, organize trainings, stay abreast of changes in law and communicate them to other attorneys etc. They don’t bill to clients and aren’t equity
Anonymous
Means we fired the law librarian and have a thankless profit less boring job up for grabs
Anon
This
Anon
Eh, depends what you want. You’ll certainly never make the big bucks of a real partner, but (as is discussed here regularly) there are lots of people who would take a huge paycut to work sane hours, and it can be a great job for people like that. I know a person who does this and is very happy (although I don’t think he has “partner” in his title, he’s just a “knowledge manager”).
Anonymous
Probably depends on the firm, but in my firm this person is a glorified librarian. They do not do ediscovery, that’s a completely different department. We have a team of staff attorneys and non-attorneys who do things like basic case law research, treatise and other secondary source research, background checks, find and order various types of public records, that sort of thing. The person in charge of them has the title partner but I don’t think they’re an equity partner.
Anon
I’ve never heard of this as a partner role. My BigLaw firm and others I know of have Knowledge Attorneys or Practice Development Attorneys who help with organizing certain practices within the firm (ie, making sure the practice group has all the latest resources, are on top of potential pitches/business development, coordinate programs and trainings across the group, do internal and external publications regarding the group, etc).
Anon 2.0
Anyone else following the 8 Passengers/Ruby Franke saga? It is utterly horrifying and a huge reminder we need much better protection for children being used for profit on social media.
Anne-on
I had no idea who these people are and I’m horrified by the news. I’m of an age where all of this was playing out on mommy blogs vs. Youtube/TikTok (which was slightly better? I guess?) and I’m sure lots of us remember similar stories about some of the OG mommy bloggers.
Not that they owe us anything but I’d be super interested to hear follow up stories/a documentary with some of the kids who are now 18+. Heather Armstrong’s kids come to mind but thankfully their dad/stepmom seem to be very aware of keeping their lives mostly offline these days.
Anon
There was a law passed recently in Illinois that the children of influencers and mommy bl*ggers who are used in sponsored content are entitled to a share of the earnings, the way child actors are. It’s not enough, but it’s a start.
anon
And maybe take all these mommy bloggers who have all the answers with a giant, heaping grain of salt.
I hadn’t heard of this one before today, but her poor kids.
Anon
There is a mom influencer in my area (a small-ish one, less than 50k followers) and how she presents herself online vs in real life is sooo different. It’s wild, and makes me wonder what all the big name ones are like in real life.
anon
I’ve always wondered this, too!
Anonymous
Same. A mom of my daughter’s friend has like 5M followers on Instagram. She’s not a mommy blogger (she’s an interior designer) but does occasionally feature her family and some life drama in her posts.
I know her fairly well and what is posted online and real life are just so….so….different.
anon
What is the difference? Glossy fantasy vs. messy reality? A different presentation of personality? I’m fascinated by this. I have a side hobby that could become an “influencer” type thing, and I’ve resisted because it all feels very fake to me.
Anon
Different scope, but my childhood home was sold to a couple; the wife is an interior designer. She does “before and after” photos and is all – here is what I did with paint and Target pillows and the perfect chairs from Pottery Barn!
Never mind that she’s had a contractor do structural work, which you can tell if you know the house or if you look very very closely. She also uses photos from the pre-purchase tour she took (the house was sold in a private sale – no open house or anything) and makes fun of the decorating.
Super classy, but it apparently drums up business.
Anonymous
Not me.
I just looked it up because I was curious and have to say I’m not surprised. Parents who document their lives like this tend to live two very different lives, one on social media and the other in reality.
Seventh Sister
Me! While I know this happened in UT, a lot of her mannerisms and her general attitude towards her kids (at least in the clips on TT) reminds me a lot of the mom in Jon & Kate Plus 8, right down to sending a boy away to a “therapeutic” boarding “school.”
One thing about this whole saga is that it can be *really* hard for certain kinds of child abuse to get noticed or prosecuted. The Frankes lived in a nice house on a nice street in a nice town where they were members of the dominant religious denomination. Even if CPS visited, I’m sure there was food in the fridge and nobody was sleeping in a dog crate when the social worker cam through the place.
It always gives me the creeps when an influencer uses their kids’ real names, especially if the kid is a teenager or getting close to being a teenager. My kids don’t want me to wave to them if I drop them off at school, I can’t imagine how those kids feel about having some really personal moments archived on YouTube for posterity.
Anon
I don’t like most of the kid content. The one exception is a kid who is a dancer/performer. It is so obvious this kid literally craves the spotlight and some people are just like that. Also, the mom doesn’t put her other kids on because they don’t like it.