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Coffee Break: Story Convertible Loafer


For discussion: are convertible loafers appropriate for work, at conservative offices at least? Both Chloé and Gucci are making highly rated “convertible loafers” that can be worn as mules or loafers.

I feel like either mules or loafers on their own are acceptable, but worry that the “walking on the back of your shoe” thing feels a bit too casual for the workplace, so for my $.02 I would probably only wear these shoes as loafers in the office — but that's me. (Readers, do tell…)

Between Gucci and Chloé I'm preferring the details on the Chloé ones, though — that big C, the interesting layers to the vamp… lovely. They're $695, at Nordstrom, Bloomingdale's, and Neiman Marcus. Story Convertible Loafer

Looking for something more affordable? Zappos has a bunch of good reviews on this shoe, with select styles and colors down to $42… 

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  1. I wouldn’t wear these at a business casual office either. If you wear them, I’ll assume there’s something going on in your life that means you haven’t noticed your shoes are broken.

    1. Agree! These look silly, and sloppy also. Who wants men to think we are silly and sloppy? Not me, no way HOZE! I would like to appear fashionable all of the time and professional; these are the opposite. The only men who would be attracted to this are those that think we are easy and would have s-x with them then forget all about it. FOOEY on that!

  2. I think mules are weird anyway, but why in gods name would you want to wear these? They’re ugly and that would be crazy uncomfortable.

    1. I assume if you paid $700, you’d be trying to get as much use as possible out of them. (But I totally agree on mules generally and these in particular.)

  3. Trump is trying to limit visas for pregnant women to avoid “birth tourism.” Anyone who claims discrimination based on sex is dead is an idiot. Just when I think the future for women couldn’t get any more dystopian…

    1. I was not allowed to fly in my last month of pregnancy, so I’d be a bit surprised if people did internationally (barring something like a parent’s funeral). How pregnant do people have to be for it to apply? I’ve also flown in first and second trimesters with no concerns about delivering on the road (I acknowledge that birth tourism is totally a thing though and that those people are OK with the inconvenience of birthing on the road).

      1. Who knows how this will be applied – will all women have to take pregnancy tests beforehand? Will fat women be pulled aside because they look suspicious? There are so many problems and there is so much misogyny at work here.

        1. I recently read a story about a woman flying from I believe China to a US territory where she grew up and being forced to take a pregnancy test before being permitted to board based on the fact that her “physical appearance was consistent with pregnancy” because the territory in question had complained about birth tourism.

          So yes, pregnancy tests and screening based on physical appearance will become a thing.

      2. There is a Canadian reality TV show from a couple years ago called Border Security (maybe there is a US version too?) about various border crossings, and I remember an episode with one woman at an airport who was quite pregnant trying to get into the US (for a vacation, she said) and they suspected she was lying about not being as far along as she actually was so she could give birth in the US. So I guess it happens. The customs guy couldn’t do anything about it because it’s not illegal (nor should it be) but questioned her heavily.

        1. Someone in my extended family is a surrogate and is often approached by Chinese (nationality) would-be parents wanting her to carry and birth their child in the US.

          1. So I guess this will lead to a birth-surrogacy boom then. One door closes and another door opens.

        2. Apparently in the US, birth tourism is mostly from wealthy people from China, and I guess it’s more about status than anything else? The GOP spends a lot of time talking about how Latinos have “anchor babies” but in most cases they were already living here (legally or illegally) before the child was born, so it’s not really birth tourism. The “get on a plane to have a baby in the US” is pretty much exclusively the Chinese, and they apparently pay up $100,000 for the privilege.

          1. If I were rich and yet lived in a society that was intrusive and gave me no rights, treated the Uighurs worse, and could fall at some point (male/female ratios may lead to instability), I’d really consider something like this. It makes sense that people do.

            I don’t think that “born on the soil” citizenship is a thing in most other countries you’d want to flee to. Just the US.

          2. Maybe, but you don’t get any rights for yourself by having a US citizen for a child. It’s 21 years before they could even potentially sponsor you for a visa, and that’s a very non-trivial process.

          3. Yes, but it gives you a leg up on the 2 billion other Chinese people who might want to flee. And in 21 years, you might want / need to. Rich people have more to lose then the rest of us and this seems reasonable thing for a rich person. IDK if rich people in Russia do this (or just buy up NYC real estate). Someone is buying up pricey real estate in Vancouver, as if they might need it (or a safe place to park large sums of $).

          4. You may not get rights for yourself, but many, many people are motivated to provide things for their children even if it they won’t personally benefit. As a tiny example, many parents sacrifice in their own retirement savings to pay for their child to go to private school. They don’t necessarily do this with a concrete plan for their children to provide for them in retirement (although I’m sure that happens), but they want their children to benefit from the privileges of private education.

          6. I don’t see how this could cut down on wealthy people coming to the US to give birth. A US visitor visa is for 6 months. So, you just have to come earlier in your pregnancy. And the countries that don’t require a visa, which would only permit you to stay for 90 days then, are generally western countries that I don’t think have a big birth tourism business.

            I at least can understand an argument that birth tourism is a problem, even if I don’t agree, but I don’t see how this help stop it.

    2. I can see why that’s not an issue where nationality is based on things other than when you were born (most other countries). I guess it’s just a US quirk to have citizenship based on being born here. I was surprised honestly that in other countries you really can’t just be born or become a citizen (and for longtime guest workers, there are no provisions for the greencard equivalent with citizenship as an option to follow, e.g. Saudi Arabia with its many guest workers).

      1. I remember reading somewhere that this was meant to include previous slaves as citizens because some used to argue that they weren’t born citizens (since they were born as property – yes, this sickens me even as I type it out). Now it’s become a citizenship loophole for a child not born from American parents.

        1. I’m a fan of Jus Solis because it’s equalizing. I think it’s so unfair that you can have generations of folks who live somewhere but cannot access the benefits of citizenship.

      1. Yes – major issue in areas like Richmond in Metro Vancouver with primarily Chinese people coming to hospitals and “birth houses” (big business, btw) to give birth and claim citizenship.

  4. A former colleague of mine wrote this piece and I thought I’d share it for anyone that needs it now–or in the future. I am not in law- and neither is the author- but I HAVE been laid off. I have gone through all the emotions, and I’m on the other side a few years later. Her point is 100% spot-on: nobody cares that you were fired. You also always hear people saying that being let go/laid off etc was the best thing that could have happened. As much as I hate to admit it because I’m STILL furious that it happened, I am much better off. A thousand times better off.

    https://productcoalition.com/nobody-cares-that-you-were-fired-d6d49a3a942b

    1. Very good read. I was fired TWICE in the last year. It was horrible and devastating but in the end, it’s true that no one cared I was let go. I have a much better job now. I’m still furious though!

    2. Eh, I’d go ahead and say that depending on why you were fired, people might care, at least in the short term. I’d say being fired for having a bad attitude did count against me in subsequent job searches for a few years (not that I was straightforward about it, but there’s only so much spin I could put on it), but no one asks me about that job now because it was seven years ago. But I did find work after being fired!

      I will also point out that I worked with a recruiter two jobs ago, who would target people at companies that just had layoffs, but she’d blatantly say “oh I don’t want the people who were laid off, I want the ones the company thought were good enough to keep!” I didn’t like that recruiter, for a number of reasons, but that attitude is out there. When I was job hunting post-layoff, a lot of people were very understanding, knowing how big the layoff was and that my line of work is usually impacted when a company’s hiring slows down or stops and they need to start making staff cuts. But man, I watched a video recently where my old company’s CEO was announcing a new product offering, and I had to stop, because this was a voice I heard and face I saw in numerous town hall meetings leading up to the big chop, and it was painful!

  6. I have a pair of very inexpensive “convertible loafers” I bought on Amazon a couple of years ago – and I’ve only tried the “convertible” position once. I never even left the house. It looked ridiculous, and wasn’t comfortable.

    3. Right! That’s what these look like to me–childish and sloppy. Or adorably careless, depending on your perspective. Not what I’m aiming for at the office.

  8. I’m furniture shopping for a couple of leather couches. I’m looking at restoration hardware and room and board. is RH that much nicer that it’s worth it?

    1. Not in my experience. They have good quality pieces, but not much (if any) better than other similar retailers. We’ve had good luck with Arhaus and Crate & Barrel.

    2. Nope. If you really care about springs/filling/quality construction/etc. I’d look at dealers who sell Taylor King and Hancock and Moore directly. One of them (can’t recall which) supplies the sofas to Room & Board and you’d have way more options going to the dealers directly.
      http://www.keepingroom.com/ – there are lots of forums and discussions on the merits of different types of sofas.

    3. No. 100% not worth it. We just ordered a sofa from Italy with awesome craftsmanship and it *still* cost less than a Restoration Hardware sofa while also beautiful. If you are dying for the RH look, there are a ton of lookalikes and don’t feel sorry about it one bit because they ‘steal’ ideas from smaller designers all the time! That being said, if it’s a regular-use sofa, you’ll want to think about construction and Room and Board, Arhaus, Lee Industries, CR Laine are all really good. Really, though, Room and Board is just fantastic and they have wonderful customer service. I have a sectional from R&B that is 15+ years old and it still looks fantastic and is still very comfortable. If you near a showroom for any of these stores, go check them out- especially to see how the leather wears.

  9. I’m a fairly senior attorney at a small firm and I mostly manage my own cases. I recently co-counseled with an attorney from another firm on several cases. This other attorney is much more senior than me, close to retirement and has a successful history of litigating high dollar cases. As we work together though, I’m finding our strategy on a lot of minor things is so different. I’m in a collegial state and he is being a pain in the butt on some routine discovery stuff that is out of the ordinary here. Normally, I wouldn’t care but he is treating me like an associate and having me serve as his messenger on a lot of the items. I’ve told him that normally I would do X Y and Z and is he sure that he wants to take stance ABC. I think he has picked up on some of my discomfort because he is doing some of the communicating himself now.

    I guess the advice I am seeking, since I never worked as a traditional associate anywhere, is how do I get used to saying or doing things I disagree with and are not my normal style but that I have to do because the lawyer in charge wants to do it that way.

    To be clear, he hired me to co-counsel on his cases so he is the one in charge here.

    Right now, I’m just trying to remember that every attorney has their own style; he has been wildly successful in his career and I could very well learn something from trying things his way.

    1. You might talk to one of the partners at your firm and potentially get him (assuming there are male partners) involved on some of the strategy issues you feel most strongly about, and/or run some of the issues past someone else at your firm to get their take. The attitude from the other lawyer that you’re describing could be (a) sexism, and/or (b) partner-ism, where someone defers to a partner who says X but rejects if it a non-partner says X. I have seen that happen time and again. One solution is to route your ideas through a more senior person, and another is to document that the decisions you disagree with were his, not yours. You can also try proposing compromises between the differing views. Consider whether your differences are truly substantive. If not, and he feels strongly about something, let it go. On the other hand, for important substantive differences of opinion, a more extreme approach would be simply to refuse to send the email he wants you to send, or refuse to authorize your name to be put on the pleading you don’t think should be filed. Granted, that could damage the relationship, but life is too short, and remember, your ultimate duty is to the client. He might be surprised if you put your foot down, and decide to re-think his position. Or not. Co-counseling relationships can be hit or miss. Sometimes you really click and naturally have compatible strategy ideas, and sometimes you don’t, and you really can’t know until you actually start working with someone. Sometimes it can take a while until you figure out how to work well with a new person and get used to each other’s styles of litigating.

  10. Hey person who was thinking of moving for her husband’s fellowship – there is a facebook group called lives of doctor wives and a reddit group called medspouse if you want to ask for advice from people who aer in similar situations

        1. OTOH, it is proof that we are not in a recession or really worried about one if this went from being a concept to being a thing. Comforting in a way, but strange.

  12. i have the gucci ones (hot pink! #ellewoods) and i never wear them with the back down. I wish i had bought the mule version instead.

  13. We’re taking the kids to D!sney this year. I’ve never been there, and feel very clueless about the various attractions. Which rides are awesome, and which ones aren’t worth our time? We will be making a trip to Universal for the Harry Potter stuff, too. We want to stay on-site, so any insight on which options are the most fun (or convenient) would be appreciated too!

    Fully plan on taking advantage of the fast pass situation …

    1. There’s an entire industry around planning Disney trips. I’m not normally pro-travel agent, but I’d find one who specializes in Disney and work with them. My understanding from friends who do Disney regularly is that the travel agent can usually get you special deals and perks that aren’t publicly available.

    2. I agree that if you are clueless you need a travel agent. Planning a Disney trip is a lot of work (IF you want the trip to be successful – I’m sorry to say that if you think you can just show up at the front gates whenever and be able to ride rides without waiting in line and eat at whatever restaurant you want whenever you want, you are mistaken). If you’re not interested or willing to do the research, you need help. There are hundreds of websites and blogs and youtube/insta accounts devoted to planning Disney trips.

      1. I’ve got the planning part covered, and no, I’m not an idiot who thinks she can just show up. I’m well aware that a D!sney vacation requires a lot of work on the front end. I was specifically asking about which rides are fun vs. lame … that’s all. And if people want to chime in on which resorts they enjoyed, awesome.

        1. A lot of it is individual-specific and maybe age-specific. My kids love/loathe things in what appears to be a random fashion. Ditto food / restaurants.

        2. for me basically all the rides are great! You’ll get a sense of them reading blogs but basically fast pass eligible rides or rides with long lines are popular for a reason! I particularly love Soarin and Splash Mountain.

        3. I’m staying at Port Orleans Riverside when I go in a few weeks, its a “moderate” level resort near Disney Springs. I know lots of people who have enjoyed the “value” resorts too. Lots of options at many price points. If you want to be on the monorail line that’ll be $$$ but is definitely more convenient for getting to Magic Kingdom and Epcot.
          I personally don’t think any of the rides are lame, you should try to get on most of them. Disney Tourist Blog is my favorite resource, they have itineraries for all the parks and what rides to do in which order. They also have reviews and rankings of all the rides, that’s probably more what you’re looking for here.

        4. I grew up next to Disneyland so I don’t know about all the modern uses of the app, etc. but I would try to get a fast pass for things like Space Mountain and the Matterhorn and then wait in line for things that move in groups like Pirates and Haunted Mansion. Things like Indiana Jones, Teacups, Star Tours, etc. are classics and super fun. It really depends on what you want to get out of the day and what your kids are into. You could prioritize roller coasters, or seeing characters in Toon Town, attending shows/fireworks, shopping, etc. I’d prioritize time in the main park over California Adventure but California Adventure has one good roller coaster and some fun food places. I haven’t been to Galaxy’s Edge but I hear really good things from my friends who have been, granted all of them are Star Wars fans. Galaxy’s Edge does require some planning to get in for the day and trying to get a reservation for the cantina, building a light saber, or building a droid (a reservation for building something guarantees you into the park around that time slot but is pricey). If you stay on Disney property, there’s also better access.

          3. She said they want to visit Harry Potter/Universal which means Disneyworld. Not that hard to figure out which one she’s going to, even if she didn’t explicitly mention it.

        1. It’s definitely not for everyone! They’ve made the strategic decision to make it easier to have a good time if you’ve planned in advance. As a planner, I love that! If you just want to waltz in with no knowledge you probably won’t have a great experience and it won’t be worth the money.

          1. As my post below (was in m0d for a decade, idek) shows, I have a totally different perspective!

            Is this a World vs. Land issue (I haven’t been to World for 20 years)?

            Is this a confirmation bias type thing (like planners feel like it’s good because they planned, non-planners feel like it’s good because they didn’t plan)?

        2. It’s my definition of a living hell. DH and I agreed way back when we were dating that if our kids ever begged for Disney, we would do the resort in Hawaii or a cruise. I cannot imagine willingly submitting myself to the theme parks.

          1. This. Plus I get sick on rides.

            Also, IDK why so many people insist on going in the summer. You could not pay me to go to Florida in the summer.

        3. I’m an introvert who hates crowds and I love Disneyland. I’ve been maybe seven times in my life and it’s been so fun. There’s something magical about it that overrides the hassle.

          1. Disneyland and Disney World are absolutely not the same thing. Disneyland is awesome. Disney World is hell.

          2. 4:34, if you’re still hangin’ out, can you tell me more about this? I’m a Landlubber (hee) and I find it… comfortable and fun and easy, I guess. The very first time I took Kiddo was a Saturday in October and cast members where whispering about how it was the most crowded they’d ever seen it, and we still managed to have The Best Time.

        4. Disney is my favourite place! The planning isn’t for everyone but it is truly magical.

        5. I used to work in a tourist attraction, so going to another tourist attraction like Disney or Universal doesn’t sound fun to me. BUT, I don’t have kids and I think watching them have fun would make it worth it.

          My parents took us as kids – in the middle of summer, of course, and in the dark ages before FastPass – and we loved it. Now that I know how much work that was for them, it makes the memories that much sweeter.

          1. I always love hearing your perspective, pugs, but this is an especially sweet post.

          3. Not to diminish what your parents did for you, but it was a whole lot simpler in the 1980s and 90s. Still crowded and hot in the summer, definitely, but the requirement that you plan every minute of your trip didn’t exist in the pre-Internet era. It’s the internet that’s made this exhaustive level of planning possible (with many things, not just Disney).

        6. As my post below (was in m0d for a decade, idek) shows, I have a totally different perspective!

          Is this a World vs. Land issue (I haven’t been to World for 20 years, and then only went once)?

          Is this a confirmation bias type thing (like planners feel like it’s good because they planned, non-planners feel like it’s good because they didn’t plan)?

    3. It’s very age-dependent as to what you would want to do with your kids. There’s a huge WDW fan channel world on YouTube. I would definitely recommend checking out some of the videos. I like the Tim Tracker channel’s reviews of hotels. I recently stayed for a conference at the Waldorf Astoria on the Disney property, which is connected to the Hilton Bonnet Creek, and they shared a lazy river/pool thing that I would totally have loved when I was a kid. I also stayed at the Dolphin hotel on the Boardwalk when I was a kid and had a great time since you could walk along the Boardwalk and check out the shops and things; it was pretty convenient to the parks. Definitely plan WAY in advance–FastPasses and the most desirable dining reservations (particularly character dining, which you should do at least once if you have kids) book up weeks or even months in advance.

      1. I am in Disney for work conferences way more than I’d like. I think the consensus is that the Beach/Yacht club have the best pool by far, and being able to walk/boat to 2 parks is a big plus. Monorail access is a huge plus but you pay for it. I personally like being on the ‘Boardwalk’ as you can very easily hit other hotels (and their restaurants) by walking/biking without having to deal with shuttles. The Boardwalk at night is also pretty charming, and you can easily see fireworks there without having to be in a park. The Swan & Dolphin do massive amounts of conference business and so have some pretty decent ‘high end’ (not Disney meal plan) restaurants if you’d like something more adult one night.

        1. +1 for Beach or Yacht Club. We thought it was so convenient, especially for Epcot, but also the boat to Hollywood Studios. The pool options were great and the hotel itself nice. The rooms were, well, fine. I think I was expecting something a little nicer given that’s one of the better resort options, but we barely were there except to sleep and shower, so it did the job.

          I am not a Disney person, but I will say, taking our 6 and 2 year old this past year was so incredibly worth it. They absolutely loved it and it was designed with children/families in mind, so they make so many things so easy (dining, transportation, etc.). We may never go back again, but I definitely will treasure the memory of doing it.

    4. Agree, find a disney travel agent. If you are someone who is used to diving into a situation and figuring it all out yourself, it can be extremely daunting because the pool of disney knowledge is DEEP. Keep in mind that dining reservations open exactly 6 mos before your reservation and fast passes open 60 days before (if staying on property) or 30 days before (if not). I’ve gone twice with my kids and both trips were awesome, but as a detail oriented person I would have driven myself straight up bonkers had I not used a well-respected Disney planner. And she did a great job of planning our most recent trip to disney parks (including the new star wars stuff) and universal/wizarding world.

    5. It would be helpful to know ages, which parks (California or Florida? Going to all the parks or just Magic Kingdom, etc), and the types of rides you guys like.

      I personally am a thrill seeker. My faves are tower of terror, space mountain, seven dwarves mine train (only Florida), Everest, splash mountain, and Indiana Jones (only California). My fave non-thrill rides are Frozen, Midway Mania, Haunted Mansion, and Pirates of the Caribbean.

      Have fun!

    6. I haven’t been in a million years so I don’t have a good idea of what current rides are good versus lame. I’m also not one for thrill rides in general so all of my favorites are “dark rides” (i.e. slow and provide some sort of theatrical experience). Obviously, Pirates of the Caribbean and Haunted Mansion are must-dos. That said, if Phantasmic is still there, go to that! You’ll probably need to reserve ahead of time because it is so popular, but totally worth it. And if it’s gone, that would make me very sad.

      There are actually some ride-through videos on YouTube that can give you a firsthand experience of what each ride is like, if you’re interested.

      1. I hate thrill rides so that’s actually one of the reasons I love Disney, there are lots of fun rides that aren’t roller coasters (vs other theme parks that are 99% roller coasters).

    7. Not me, but my nieces and nephews went over Christmas. It depends on the ages of your kids (they are 10, 8, 7, and 5) but they LOVED the Avatar VR-experience (so did the adults), Space Mountain, Splash Mountain, and Teacups. They also loved being up late to watch the fireworks like an adult and eating at the restaurants. They had a guide.

    8. Season ticket holder to Disneyland here. I don’t think you need to plan that hard. Disneyland is fun and magical — just let it be. They’re so good at crowd control, so good at making it pleasant… just go with it, buy into the fantasy, don’t try to fight it or out-strategize the massive structure.

      A neat thing about staying on-site is that you get access to the parks an hour early. Another neat thing is that you can go back to the hotel to nap (I’ve never stayed because I live close, but I’m jealous when my friends who visit have that option).

      All I think you really need to do/plan is:
      (1) figure out a way to maximize value for ticket price. I think there are often good hotel + 3-day-pass options.
      (2) bring clothing appropriate for the weather, and water bottles and snacks if that works for you.
      (3) figure out if you’re doing a stroller (I don’t like strollers because I would rather carry a kid than deal with parking and retrieving a stroller) and make sure it meets park rules.
      (4) familiarize yourself with how FastPasses work.
      (5) maybe talk to your kids about shopping in advance — like ‘you are getting ONE souvenir on the last day, so don’t bother begging me for every toy you see!’

      We usually have a “plan” like “let’s get there when it opens and go to Ariel first!!! but first mommy is buying a coffee!” and “I’m gonna get popcorn as my treat!” and “I definitely want to meet princesses this time!” … you don’t need a detailed, minute-by-minute itinerary, really. Scope out the line lengths on the app for the days of the week you’ll be there to set your mind at ease.

      I do show kiddo the youtube ride throughs because she’s a cautious kid and likes to know what’s coming.

      Have fun! It’s great! Look up Disneybounding to plan your outfits!

    9. We did Universal last year and may be going back this year. Volcano Bay is awesome if your kids like water parks, and the Harry Potter stuff is phenomenal. The rest of it is meh. I would give yourself at least 3 days for Universal. Haven’t been to Disney.

    10. I worked at Disney and went to Disneyland 18 times in two years. My tips:
      1) Arrive early – before noon the lines are shorter
      2) If your kids are old enough check out the single rider line
      3) Look at the meal/parade meal/firework options. You can have a reservation for meals that includes a ticket to a viewing area for the parade or fireworks
      Have Fun!

  14. Talk to me about the Peloton bike. I am a single mom so getting to an actual gym is impossible. I just received a gift that will cover 100% of the cost of the bike, so finances aren’t a concern. Pros/cons? I want to hear them all and do my due diligence!

    1. Why not just get a regular exercise bike? I totally understand the desire to work out at home, but I don’t get the cult of Peloton.

      1. In response to Anon at 4:09 and “why not just get a regular exercise bike”: I have the Flywheel bike and not the Peloton brand but I will say that for me, having access to the platform with instructor led video classes, a board where there are other riders that you can compete with, and off-bike classes, has been instrumental in my enjoyment of the bike and has prevented my bike from becoming an expensive drying rack. You can free ride (that is just ride without an instructor telling you what resistance and rpm to aim for) but I do not find I get nearly as good of a workout or stay as motivated. I need the class experience so I don’t have to think about what to do next to keep the intensity up and having other riders stats helps me push harder because I can have mini competitions not to let other riders pass me or to pass a rider that is just ahead of me on the board. There is also a great community on social media so you can chat with other riders. And the company frequently puts together challenges that keep you motivated (e.g. right now there is a challenge to complete twenty 20 minute rides in the month of January). None of that exists with a regular exercise bike.

        1. But, at least with peloton, you can get access to the classes and everything without buying the bike. Still a lot cheaper to buy a different bike and pay for the class access, which you have to pay for with the peloton bike anyways.

          1. Yes, I know several people who have gotten the Peloton app for their tablet, then gotten a spin bike (even a $500 one is pretty good) and a tablet mount for the spin bike, and a heartrate monitor and a cadence monitor and voila. Like a Peloton, except half the price. And you’re not giving money to a company that has some questionable views about body-shaming women.

      2. Happy member of the peloton cult here. Single mom. Its in my bedroom. I have my kids full time, ex lives out of country. I still lift and swim but LOVE LOVE LOVE that thing. I dont feel like I’m alone because if live class I am racing thousands of others, and if on demand I am racing their average output. I would get different (SPD) pedals and not their shoes, but everything else I highly recommend.

    2. Have it, love it, it’s perfect for a single mom. So nice to be able to work out and get a variety of classes without leaving the house.

    4. I would suggest trying spin classes first to see if you even like doing it… otherwise the Peloton will quickly become the world’s most expensive drying rack!

    5. Fellow single mother here and Peloton rider. I LOVE my bike. I LOVE all the other classes they offer as well. There is Yoga, Meditation, Boot Camp, Core, Strength Training, etc. There are outdoor walking and running classes as well (that you listen to via the app). There are classes for all levels and time length. For me, after a decade of consistent gyms, trainers, CrossFit and other group fitness, this bike was a no-brainer for me.

    6. The Peloton makes a ton of sense from a scheduling standpoint, but I honestly didn’t think the workout was that good. I was used to a studio spin class, and those workouts were much harder and gave me much better results. I have since sold my Peloton and gone back to the studio.

    7. I have the Flywheel Anywhere bike (different brand but same concept as Peloton) and love it! I’ve had it for two years and it has helped me to be much more consistent about regular workouts because it is at my house (no commute to the gym time) and the classes and online “community” is great. They also offer off-bike workouts when you want to do some barre or other strength training.

    8. My husband has an Echelon that he loves. He got it before Peloton was cool. It also has online classes.

    9. Yes. Buy it! you have a 30 day trial period and they even pay return shipping– that tells you how likely it is that you will keep it It is the best investment in my fitness I have ever made and I am shocked at how much I love it. I am a mom of 2 boys and I work full time so the scheduling flexibility is key for me. It is a better experience with the actual Pelo bike. The classes are geared toward the bike’s calibration– so they say a resistance range that you can automatically apply. The quality of the bike is top of the line gym quality, too. For the tread workouts you can use any tread since 6.0 MPH is objective, resistance on the bike is more subjective. The off bike classes are fantastic and varied too. I personally do the bike, tread, cardio, yoga, meditation, stretching, and strength classes. It is worth every penny. They have high quality training (like science based Power Zone Training) as well as fun and hard spin classes. What makes Pelo different is the (1) quality and variety of the instructors, (2) the community, and (3) the challenges (there are Pelo and third party challenges (that are affiliated with Pelo) that I love and get me working hard.

      To the poster who said the workout was not good, I am surprised to hear that. Sometimes I do easy classes for recovery days, but most of these classes kick my butt in the best way. The community is really special, too. I know someone up there called it a “cult” and i get it from the outside – but on the inside, it is a warm, welcoming, supportive community. Some people don’t like it because it is trendy, and I get that, but the product is very sound.

    10. I have had mine for about 3.5 years and I LOVE it. It’s only gotten better over time in terms of additional classes/offerings and more metrics that are trackable. If you like having the flexibility of working out at home whenever convenient for you, having a ton of options (I used to love workout dvds but would get bored after I memorized them) and are at all into data it really is incredible.

    11. I was considering buying a Peloton but ended up buying a really good Precor Spinbike and subscribed to Les Mills (they have a good library of spinning trainings). I also found free YT workout videos on GCN Channel (they have a playlist of maybe 40 of them and keep adding new under Train with GCN). Funny I find the free GCN workout more effective than anything else I have tried. If you can, try one of these (much much cheaper) options before committing to Peloton.

  15. Why would you walk around on the heels of your shoe? Looks both uncomfortable and sloppy. I can’t believe this is really a trend. Looks like clickbait to me.

  16. I’ve worn this look before … when a loafer caused a horrible blister and I decided the pain of walking on a folded heel was less than the pain of aggravating a blister. No thanks. I can’t figure out which is worse – this or the Tory Burch bag from the other day. At least the TB bag wouldn’t physically hurt me.

    1. I don’t know, the awful patterns on that bag might give you a headache if you looked at them for too long.

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