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Suit of the Week: Boss

Suit of the Week

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For busy working women, the suit is often the easiest outfit to throw on in the morning. In general, this feature is not about interview suits for women, which should be as classic and basic as you get — instead, this feature is about the slightly different suit that is fashionable, yet professional.

Cobalt and black can be really tricky — what are your thoughts, ladies? As someone who LOVES cobalt, I like this suit — the cut is classic, but the edge details seemed interesting and unique.

That said, some of the ways different stores have styled it have an almost ’80s quality (or, shhhh, a Star Trek quality), so let's discuss. Is this suit something that can be saved or sunk through styling? (We've pictured the model from the Boss website above; you can also see it at Nordstrom and Bloomingdale's.)

For my $.02, I might try it with something white underneath it, such as this gorgeous blouse from Rebecca Taylor or this interesting white shell. Another way to break it up would be to keep the blazer unbuttoned, pair it with a slim black turtleneck, and add a scarf that picks up some of the colors.

What are your thoughts, ladies? The blazer is $495; the matching pants are $248. (There do seem to be a lot of bright blue matching pieces, but no dress — I think the Bloomingdales image includes this cobalt blue top and this cobalt blue skirt.)

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Comments

  1. Anon

    Question for all the experienced ladies –

    The company I worked for until recently (they laid me off during financial troubles) has received a very very bad write up in the trade press, having to do with both their financial troubles and regulatory issues.

    I’m obviously job hunting but wondering how this will reflect on me as a candidate. I’m a fairly senior employee (basically director level) but I’ve been with basically two companies for my entire career, so I haven’t moved around a lot.

    I know the financial and regulatory decisions of the company happened above my level and that it was none of my doing, but not everyone will know that, obviously. I’m wondering how much this will set me back career-wise.

    I also signed a non-disparage and a non-disclose as a prerequisite for receiving severance pay, the wording of which I did have an attorney review.

    • Anon

      Unless the issues going on were directly a result of your role, I wouldn’t worry about it. For example, if you were Director of Trade Regulations, and the issue was noncompliance with Trade Regulations, you might have an issue…but tbh a lot of companies don’t necessarily look at recent press for your former company, they might visit the website but are more interested in your background.

    • Anonymous

      It may in fact have an impact, depending on the nature of what is in the press. People, especially those that are more senior, get unfairly or fairly lumped in with the company itself. I don’t know if it’s an option as far as the non-disparagement clause, but do you need the severance?

    • Anon

      The attorney who reviewed your NDA should have some language you can use in an interview that does not run afoul of the non-disparagement clause but allows you to accurately describe your role.

      Barring that, your best strategy is to explain your role and to not disparage the company. “My role was in (describe). The decisions about financial regulation were made by (describe). I am not privy to information about how those decisions were made and whether or not the news reports are accurate.”

  2. Horrid Suit

    No. No more 80’s throwbacks. I would never buy or wear this. Just no.

    • Anon

      I’m not sure this us 80s. I had a dress like this in the mid 90s. It was scuba material on the body and knit on the sleeves. It zipped up the front with a silver zipper. It was by Escada, snagged in the glorious January sales they used to have at Neiman Marcus. I wore it with black tights and heeled lace-up oxfords and I thought I was FIRE.

    • Anonymous

      Beyond the styling issues of the suit, I clicked on the care instructions on the Boss website and it said “do not wash” “reduced dry clean” so apparently it’s both expensive and breathtakingly delicate?

      I understand that an argument for buying high end clothing is that it’s better quality and lasts longer so you get more wears out of it, and I do find that compelling. But why would I pay $500 for a suit jacket that wasn’t designed to come in contact with the human body?

      • Anon

        ha ha ha haha! I hate that kind of thing. Also, I sweat when I am nervous. When am I nervous? When I am in court? (totally) Why do clothing manufacturers do stuff like this?

  3. anon

    I’m shopping early for the holidays, but I need help with ideas for the last few people on my list: mom, grandpa, FIL, and grandma-IL. The common denominator is they are all older folks who’s lives have been extremely restricted by covid. I usually like to give gifts that will be useful for something fun, but I’m drawing a blank since their lifestyles have changed so much.

    I will likely end up buying them all books, but I would love to get some suggestions for other ideas, too. The all tend to read non-fiction more than fiction. I typically check the review round-ups at the end of the year, but those aren’t out yet.

    • Anonymous

      Dunkin Donuts sells gift cards that you can spend extra and put your picture on it. I’d do that if they like DD. My parents like to get ones of my + my kids.

    • Anonymous

      My mom was bored and doesn’t like crafts, so I bought paint by numbers and supplies. She really enjoyed and has since done some on her own. Some will create from a photograph if you’re wanting to do something more personal.

      I’ve also gotten folks socks with their pets on them or kids on them through Cuddle Clones and have been a hit. (They do really nice quality masks,too)

    • Anon

      what types of things do they like to do? an adult paint by numbers or diamond dots, an at home cooking kit, puzzles. do they like plants?

      • anon

        To be honest, they all mostly just watch TV. Tasks like cooking have become endless chores during the pandemic grind, or (for the grandparents) are beyond theer physical capabilities.

        • Anonymous

          Maybe DVDs of their favorite movies or some nonfiction documentaries if that’s more their style? Or if they have the appropriate viewing setup, subscriptions to Netflix or Hulu or Apple TV (whatever they don’t already have). I see that Smithsonian channel shows are airing on CBS All Access, maybe that would be a good one.

          Also a “movie night” gift basket with popcorn/treats/the DVDs or subscription information.

        • KS IT Chick

          Before my mom passed away, we redirected our National Geographic DVD subscription to her address and just paid for it. It gave her a lot of options for watching beautiful scenery and fed her mind a bit when she was receiving antibiotic infusions. (Not the same as stay-at-home/quarantine, but she didn’t leave the house for 4 months during that time, so similar.)

    • Anonymous

      Custom puzzles are fun. You could put a family photo on them or some other meaningful photo. Kindles that are set up to their library cards, so they can check out books all year long. Items for a new at home project — herb garden, art supplies, calligraphy set, etc.

    • Lilau

      I bought my husband a really soft faux fur throw from pottery barn recently. I think it’s called the “channel” faux fur throw? It’s definitely going to be my go-to gift for family this year; it feels like a chinchilla and it is perfect for naps. It’s definitely spendier than a book though.

    • Mal

      Would a food/beverage-of-the-month subscription be an option? Would give them something to look forward to in the mail that they could use.

    • Anonymous

      If any of them are interested in WW2, there are lots of new non-fiction books this year.

      I have The Anarchy about the East India Company on my wish list.

      It’s not new, but my grandmother really loved the Michelle Obama biography.

    • anon a mouse

      For the grandparents, what about a photo puzzle?
      Another option is a fancy food delivery — like a nice breakfast on Christmas Eve.

    • NY CPA

      Yeah hard pass. The Nordstrom picture makes it look even more flight attendant for me.

    • Anonymous

      Flight attendant … in outer space? I think some flight attendant wear has a certain 60s charm like the square scarf tied around the neck paired with a sweet suit. But this is not that.

      • Anon

        I was going to say Zenon. But yes, also thought outer space professional woman.

        • PSA

          Which, I should note, is on Disney+ for any of you needing a really big walk down memory lane. Brink, too, of course.

      • pugsnbourbon

        Okay but how fun would it be if the blue trim lit up? Like you press a button inside the cuff and boom, you’re glowing. Obviously not for work but I think it’d be neat.

    • Anon

      Wear it with a jaunty little scarf at the neck and join the flight attendants in the galley for free drinks.

    • Anon

      Considering flight attendants are supposed to look professional and business like, I don’t see that as a bad thing.

      • Anon

        It’s not a bad thing. It just is a certain “look”. At work you want to read “generically professional” not “just got off my second job as a flight attendant”. It’s the same reason why outside of a formal event setting, white shirt, black tie, and black slacks reads fancy waiter. Don’t be so sensitive.

        • Anon

          This is definitely not a generic professional look (which I don’t actually like). As another commenter said, but I would say less disparagingly, I see this on an older, extremely accomplished woman who is comfortable in her skin and confident in her abilities. Women like that don’t generally wear generic cookie-cutter suits.

          • LaurenB

            I agree. I don’t think this is the twentysomething, but it could be the fiftysomething who is confident.

  5. This Suit

    It is for when I take the bridge of the USS Enterprise. Maybe swapping out the cobalt for . . . maroon? It is very space force-ish to me. And yet, Red from OITNB could so rock this in outer space. Or here.

  6. Ymanon

    I can see this jacket on an older woman, somebody with a hairsprayed helmet hairstyle and a cobalt sheath dress underneath, having fully embraced black and primary colour colour blocking.

    Other than that – welcome to this galaxtic flight to solar systems far, far away.

  7. Anonymous

    Any recommendations for a fail safe scented candle or bottle of alcohol gift for someone if all you know is that they like scented candles and booze? Trying to get someone a birthday present (in addition to a gift card) that they will really enjoy, I know gifting is their “love language”, and that they like scented candles and nice alcohol but I have no idea what kind. With Covid and the weather turning cold for the next 6 months I think nice hand cream or something along those lines is probably safe too but who knows. Willing to spend up to $100

    • pugsnbourbon

      Are there any local distilleries in your/their area?
      If that’s not an option, I recommend going to a higher-end liquor store and explaining your needs and budget. $100 can get a really nice bottle of almost anything (outside of Pappy Van Winkle or super-special scotch).

    • Aunt Jamesina

      Lafco’s Ski House candle is the perfect winter candle to me, it’s somehow both fresh and cozy. The Nest has some nice seasonal ones, too. Otherwise, you can’t go wrong with Diptyque or Jo Malone. Ohh, or Le Labo’s Santal 33. Can you tell I have a thing for candles? I rarely allow myself to buy them because I have champagne tastes and I know they aren’t healthy.

      • Anonymous

        I hadn’t heard that they were unhealthy. Can you tell us more about it? I guess I do avoid fragrances in other aspects of my life now that I think about it.

        • Aunt Jamesina

          Sure. Pretty much any time you burn something, you’re releasing particulates in the air you shouldn’t be breathing in. The scents are made from all sorts of chemicals (which are almost never listed as ingredients, so you don’t know what it is exactly that you’re burning), and they release VOCs.

          Sticking to soy wax is supposedly better than paraffin, which is petroleum-derived. Burning them in a well-ventilated area and avoiding breathing them in directly is certainly an improvement over burning one in a small, enclosed space. I don’t think periodically burning a scented candle is a huge risk, but having one going all the time isn’t great.

          https://www.healthline.com/health/are-candles-bad-for-you#what-the-science-says

      • Lilau

        +1 to all of these. baies by diptyque is beloved by my very very picky mom so I tend to gift it a lot.

      • Anon

        Yes agree with this, just go with Diptyque Baies or Roses or Le Labo Santal 33. Can’t go wrong and will impress and under $100

    • NY CPA

      I love fresh smelling candles for this. I’ve currently got a Honeycrisp Apple Cider Yankee Candle in my living room. It’s fall without being cinnamon-y, just super fresh apple. You could also do something citrusy, fresh linen-y, etc.

      I’d be annoyed to get a strong musk-y candle or anything too sweet/vanilla smelling, so wouldn’t go with those unless you already know they like those

  8. Scouting Qs

    In my city, some formerly Boy Scout groups are letting girls in, but they are in separate groups from the boys and need separate leaders. Since this is new, they don’t have enough leaders, but a lot of girls are interested.

    1. This is totally incompatable with BigLaw, no? [They have some experienced leaders who will be troop leaders, but need assistants.]

    2. I have zero background in scouting. I can hike and camp. But like I do not tie knots except for my shoes. I am really not the person for this I think. Yes? No? [Or: this is where I get to practice the “personal growth and development, even if you struggle, and even if you are not The Best” that I preach?]

    3. My kids may really hate having a parent leader. But maybe not? I have a feeling that once I say yes it will be a 7 year de facto commitment (until younger kid ages out).

    • Anon

      2. Scouting is generally about a wide variety of skills and there are tons of resources and activity guides for adult leaders to use. You don’t need a lot of knowledge or experience, especially if you’re an assistant leader.

      3. Is your kid against you being there this year? You can be involved in future years at different levels and in different roles if they end up needing some space.

    • anon

      I think you’ll be fine. I would say volunteer and see how it goes. You can always step back as things get off the ground. A lot of scouting is having enough grownups to herd the cats and make sure they don’t set the forest on fire (as far as I can tell).

  9. Anonymous

    I am not a fan and I like it even less from other angles (i.e., it looks worst straight on in the Nordstrom shot, which is not a selling point for clothing). But if forced to style it, I think I would be looking for a low scoop neck fitted tee in black or matching cobalt or a v-neck in matching cobalt (a good version of which likely could only be found if Boss manufactured it).

  10. anon

    Omg. All y’all are so wrong. It’s gorgeous, love it, would wear it, and would buy it if it weren’t pandemic. (And I may yet!) Would not wear as styled, though. I’d wear it with wide-legged black pants, a scoop neck black silk tank, and the sleeves pushed up.

    • AnonATL

      I don’t hate it either, and it’s 2 of my favorite colors! I definitely think the styling is off in all the photos. You need a little skin in the front to break up that Star Trek/ Flight Attendant/Futuristic whatever look that’s going on with the turtleneck. And not those trousers.

    • Anon

      I can totally see a c-suite type doing a Ted Talk type presentation in this. I dint mind it nearly as much as the other commenters.

    • Anon

      No. Ann Richards would have worn this (God rest her soul). That’s not a dig on her fashion choices but an indication this suit just screams out of date.

    • Anonie

      I actually really like it, too! Not enough to spend $500 on it, granted, haha :)

    • Nesprin

      I kinda love it too. Would wear with a black sheath dress and feel very sleek and futuristic.

  11. Anon

    For parents with an option to send kid back to school, what is the framework you are using to make your decision?
    Our (small, private, following Covid protocols) school has reopened and gives an option to students to learn in person or remote. Remote students will be video calling into the classroom where the teacher will be teaching to the in person students.
    Both my elementary school aged children were doing fine on remote learning when all kids were remote, though of course they missed their friends and are sad at things not being normal (no birthday parties, playdates, soccer). But with some (many for my older kid and almost all for my kindergartener) going back, I am concerned about the level of attention my kids on the laptop will get. The classroom gets loud, kids get boisterous, maintaining distance between kids and adults can’t be easy.
    It isn’t a hardship for them to learn at home normally, but they will be sad that others get to go and they don’t – they both yearn to go back to school.
    Cases are going down state wide and getting better, though I am concerned about halloween and the holiday season – I may decide to put them back in remote learning after December holiday break. But maybe it will be nice to have a few weeks of meeting friends in person?

    • anon

      We switched our 3rd grader to a private school this year and it’s gone wonderfully. The school made it through the first 8 weeks without a single positive case (known, of course), and even after having the first kid test positive, he and his siblings stayed home for 14 days, and no additional cases have surfaced yet. The school is also small, so they are able to distance the kids in the classrooms and at lunch. They take mask breaks outside and do lots of other things outside (read books, PE class, recess – 2x per day, etc) and instead of the students changing rooms for classes like music and art, those teachers come into the classrooms. And the staff appears to be diligent about wiping down surfaces and keeping the classes separated from each other.

      I am otherwise very cautious about leaving the house and being around other people, so I was nervous to attempt “normal” school. But seeing my kiddo able to have some sense of normalcy and be with peers and in a classroom with a teacher has made a huge difference for both DH and I and for our kiddo in terms of continuing to handle staying home in the pandemic. I am very happy with our decision.

      • Anon

        I’m really glad that it’s worked out for you (truly), but I’m also sad about these kids getting pulled out of public school. I feel like some schools that are already on the verge of being “good” are going to spiral down when invested parents leave. I think I would do the same thing if I were in your shoes, but it just all sucks.

        • Anon

          I did the same as the above poster — put kid into private school. I have these same worries about my public school too, but I cannot work and supervise zoom school at the same time (spring was a disaster), so as a single parent who needs to remain employed, I didn’t feel like it was much of a choice.

      • InHouse Anon

        With the caveat that my husband must go to the office everyday and our three yr old has been back in full time daycare since June (so we are not exactly a low-exposure household), we chose to send our 2nd grader to a private school this year precisely because we wanted her to have in-person schooling. Although the school has elementary, middle and high school aged kids, only the elementary school kids are back on campus. It’s a very large school in terms of physical space (but a small student body) and there’s plenty of room, both indoor and outdoor, for the kids to spread out. Like the prior poster, no (known/disclosed) positive tests among faculty, staff or students since classes resumed in late August. We’re in an area with covid numbers trending upward but not at the levels seen in some parts of the country. We plan to keep her there as long as the school is open for in-person learning. For us, the benefits far outweigh the risks, but of course it’s a very individual decision.

    • Anon

      Can you just switch back and forth between in-person and remote as you say? In our district you have to submit a request and can only switch at the beginning of a new marking period.

      • OP Anon

        We can switch from in person to remote at any time (and may be required to switch after travel, exposure or any symptoms) but only switch to in person on one of 3 designated dates.

      • Anonymous

        Yeah, even if possible change can be difficult and switching back and forth might not be ideal for that reason. But some schools require you to commit to in-person or at-home for the entire semester or year.

    • Anonymous

      My kids are in public school two days a week, and it has been fantastic for both their academic progress and their mental health. If we had a full time option I (and most of the other parents I’ve talked to) would sign up for it in a heartbeat. They have done a fabulous job distancing the kids in school. Lunches are the only time of day that the kids have their masks off and there are two kids per lunch table (typical school lunch tables). My kids report that the kids are no longer sitting together on the rug for reading (2nd grade) and no longer sitting in groups of desks for projects (5th grade). Instead the desks are in rows 6 feet apart in every direction, and they sit at their desks all day. That has actually been the biggest complaint from my kids, and I laugh – my elementary school had desks in rows from kindergarten on, so I think they have been spoiled being able to move around! They don’t get as much recess as they used to – each grade gets one 45 minute recess to limit the kids on the playground, and they are masked the whole time. It seems to be working – there have been 3 cases in our district; 1 at the high school and two (same family) at another elementary school, so it seems to be working. This is a state and a general region of the country that has done well controlling the virus though.

    • No Face

      It really comes down to the school’s procedures. I would not send my kid to a school where people were unmasked, for example.

      I’m happy to report that my public school district’s procedures are very well thought out, and they stick to them. My kid is back to her old self, after taking the isolation incredibly hard.

    • Anon

      Send them all back! I had neighborhood kids screaming outside my office window again today (about 8 of them!) from 1-4 ish. Go to real school, kids!!! Why aren’t you in Zoom school??? Send those kids baaaaaaaaack…

    • DoesntBelongHere

      If the teacher will be masked while giving instruction to both in-person and online students, I think the online students will have a very difficult time.

  12. Anon for this

    How is possible that I’ve cut back to 1200 calories on a vegan, gluten free, no alcohol diet and I’ve lost no weight in a week? What else can I do?

    (I have slowly scaled down calories because I wasn’t losing at higher calorie intake. I track my food so I’m not *missing* calories. I walk daily and weight train 2xs a week.)

    I have a thyroid problem, but I’m medicated. It just seems unreasonable that I can’t lose the 10 lbs that showed up during COVID. How is this even possible?

    Just venting.

    • Anonymous

      It takes more than a week! There’s some lag between calorie cutting and weight loss, it’s not an instant thing.

    • Anon

      Dieting slows down your metabolism (it’s thought to be semi-permanent/permanent). How often have you dieted in the past? Maybe you’re seeing the effects of that now. Not sure on thyroid stuff though.

    • Anon

      A week is not long enough to see weight loss, honestly. If you can truly handle 1200 calories per day, keep trying for several more weeks. Are you reaching a certain age where weight loss becomes harder?

    • Anon

      It’s a week; weight loss won’t show up yet. If you are losing, for example, a half pound a week, that is less than normal daily fluctuation. You could gain that back just by hydration or weighing yourself at a different time of day.

      It takes me a few weeks to see any effect at all, and it tends to happen suddenly – I ramp up training, nothing happens, and then three weeks later, my body drops weight. Be patient.

    • Abby

      I don’t know how this would with medication/thyroid but when I’ve done a cut in the past, it was 12 weeks of weighing food, not drinking, working out heavily (overall it wasn’t worth the effort) but weight doesn’t come off in a linear fashion. Consistency is key, and long term your body will see changes. I use this app called happy scale, because it shows the direction your weight is trending, even though day to day fluctuates.

      • Anon for this

        Thanks for the info.

        I’ve actually never dieted before but I put on 10 lbs with a bang during COVID and I’m trying to get them off :( I’m not very experienced so it’s good to know that I shouldn’t look for a linear result.

        • Anon

          Just be prepared for the metabolism slowdown. It’s not something to do lightly.

        • Anonymous

          Yeah definitely not. I weigh myself the same time each day (after I wake up and use the bathroom but before drinking water) and wearing only underwear. Even so, my weight can fluctuate several pounds up or down any given day. If you do it and track, you should start to see the average shift slowly downward.
          The COVID test results are a good analogy–you want to look at the movement in the trailing 7days average, rather than your actual day-to-day numbers.

    • Anon for this

      Thanks, all. This all sounds…not promising. I’m also early 40s, so presumably the age when metabolism slows down as well.

      Like everything isn’t hard enough with COVD.

      At least I’m still WFH so I can live in sweatpants :0

      • Anon

        It’s been one week, I’m not really sure what you think would be promising results?

    • Anonymous

      A week is not a realistic period. Expect at least a month to see a result.

    • Anonymous

      3500 calories less = 1 lb give or take. the safe recommended way to lose weight is 1 lb/week. i think you want to see if you can consistently keep your calorie deficit up for a few months. to see clear results. im working to get my weight into a healthy bmi range and it has taken a very long time, but i do think it is more sustainable this way

    • CountC

      Anecdata: I am 40 and gained 15 lbs early in COVID period. I am vegan, and worked with a vegan nutrition and fitness coach on a six week meal plan (no alcohol) and it took me that long to lose 10 lbs. I could see it working but it was definitely not a quick fix. I had to up my protein a lot and was eaten 1700ish calories a day. I was working out 3-4 times a week with a mix of cardio and a small bit of weight training.

    • Anonymous

      Is there really anything wait-loss specific to veganism? Sounds iffy. Both vegan and gluten free can be unhealthy food, there is no magic health properties to those if you’re eating gluten free vegan cookies, for example. Lots of processed and sugars-laden junk with those labels. :)
      Of course plenty of healthy whole (naturally) gluten free or vegan food, but the label itself is no quick fix.

  13. Anon

    I was late to reading the morning comments but I had to shake my head at the difference between living in the world as a man and a woman. Someone said “it’s okay to ask if you politely leave if they decline; how else do you meet people” and someone replied something like “no, you have to have a conversation first, not just ask for a number.” Most of us would write off a guy who just asked for our number out of nowhere. My female friend however, was walking downtown on a boozy night, saw a hot guy, walked up to him and said “you’re hot, we should hang out sometime. Here’s my number.” They are married with 4 kids. To be a guy and not worry that the forward person is crazy pants.

    I will add, there’s a big difference to walking outside on bar row and being in the grocery store.

    • Anonymous

      Does anyone have stories about giving a man who is a complete stranger their number in an environment that is NOT specifically about meeting new people/dating (example a bar, a party, mutual friend’s) … and having it work out? Like, I’ve been asked a bazillion times and never once have I said yes. It’s always an unwelcome inconvenience. Why do men do this?

      • Anon

        +1 my reaction to getting hit on at a bar/party/club is completely different than getting hit on when I’m running errands.

        Also, the fundamental difference is I don’t know a single woman who hasn’t felt physically threatened or scared at some point in her life after turning down a man. I don’t know a single man who has felt physically threatened by a woman. It’s a lot more obnoxious when someone hits on you and you have to worry about whether they are a physical threat.

      • Anon

        I know of an incident when a man catcalled a woman from his car, she responded, he drove her to work, then picked her up later that day, and moved in to her home three days later.

        I prosecuted the case when he horribly beat her some time later. This is a not uncommon pattern in DV cases.

    • Aunt Jamesina

      I think your friend’s situation is a really unusual one and shouldn’t be used as any sort of wider indicator.

      • Anon

        +1 I have one friend who married the guy she slept with on the first date. Doesn’t mean that usually happens.

        • Anon

          Ha, ever one of my long term relationships started with a hook up/sleeping together on the first date. I think that’s probably much more frequent than you think.

        • Ellen

          I would never sleep with a man on the first date, especially in this COVID era. You never know what he is carrying, and you do not want to get intimate with that until you know. It does NOT matter that it is safer to have s-x then kiss a man, but even so, not for me.

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