Coffee Break: Aimee Bootie
There are a lot of different boot styles out right now, but I feel like the stiletto bootie is a classic that is having a moment of popularity right now, if that makes sense.
L'Agence went big with this boot in that they have about ten different colorways, many of them on sale right now. The boot, originally $545, is as low as $242 in some options.
I like the smooth black leather, now down to $476 at Nordstrom. The brand in general gets good ratings for comfortable shoes, and these particular booties are getting great reviews. You can also find the boot at Nordstrom Rack, Saks, Revolve, and Intermix.
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Sales of note for 12.5
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What shoes and jewelry (no earrings) would you pair with a long sleeve black dress and black tights? Going out to dinner with friends. Should I stick with black for the shoes, or add a pop of color?
I love the look of a long necklace over a higher necked long sleeve dress (it’s not something I pull off very well due to my uh, ample bosom lol).
What kind of color/style of shoe?
I sometimes like my textured snakeskin bootie/flat with a monochromatic black outfit.
Then I add a pop of color as my coat or scarf. And lip, of course!
I have black/white/gray snakeskin booties and they are surprisingly versatile! I bought them two years ago on mega clearance and are no longer available, sadly.
I second a long necklace, pendant or none, and say stick with black shoes. If you have suitable black shoes/boots with some kind of adornment/bling, that would be good, but I would not advocate for a pop of color here (note: in other cases I am all about it and I own many colorful shoes).
Shoes with color and low-key all metal jewelry.
Or
Black boots and statement necklace.
how long is the dress and what is the neckline like?
Hits just above the knee, v neck.
I think if you’re doing a pop of color shoe it needs to be a boot. I really hate the look of tights + shoes that don’t cover the whole foot and it’s be ever more noticeable in a pop of color
Just ankle socks or other lower socks.
Nesting fail !
I vote for a tall black boot or a bootie, and then add a necklace or lippie for the pop of color. You could also do a wrap for color but I think those aren’t trendy now.
I would personally do a white or Tahitian pearl rope, especially an interesting mixed one like Kojima does, and skip the pop of color. J always think that cheapens the outfit, especially with black.
I’d love to hear from folks on here who wear these boots. Do you wear them with like, pants? So the top bit is covered? Do you wear them with skirts/dresses? Bare legs or tights? I find short boots pretty but I can never think of how to style them.
The heel is too high for me, but otherwise I would wear something like this underneath a straight or wide leg pant, where the bottom of the pant covers most of the top of the boot. I’d also wear it with a dress or skirt plus black or sheer black tights, but not a bare leg.
Did you mean to include a link?
Nvmd I just realized you were talking about the featured boots. Long day!
I have a pair of boots like this, and I wore them with tights, skirts, and dresses. But I think they look great with flared pants or trousers now that those are more in style again.
I wear booties with literally everything.
I would wear these in any of the iterations you mention.
Back in the day, I used to wear boots like this with my Express Editor boot cut pants.
Loved these pants. We looked great.
Yeah we did!
Oh are we… not supposed to still be wearing this combo? /literally wore this to the office this week
It’s back in style again, so yes we are supposed to be wearing this!
I don’t have a pair like this now but I used to wear them to work with tights and skirts/dresses all the time!
This was pre-pandemic so pants were all skinny, but I think they’d look great with boot cut or wide leg pants both in the office or at the bar!
I wear them under bootcut pants hemmed for the heel height. Not with skinnies or skirts, I feel like that look has come and gone.
Do you wear with plain black socks? Hosiery of some sort? I can do a look with tights and a dress but otherwise, not sure of the sock situation.
If not wearing tights -Just ankle socks or other low socks that won’t be at all visible.
I wear boot socks, i.e. socks that go almost up to the knee with an elastic band at the top. Ankle and no-show socks tend to slip down off my foot in these type of boots.
Trousers or opaque tights.
Yea these boots I would generally wear with boot cut black slacks or jeans.
Do we know why Pete Buttigieg took so long to visit Ohio? I wanted to root for him but this seems like visiting sooner would have been such an easy win. It also doesn’t look good that he finally went a day after Trump did.
This is more of an EPA issue than a Transportation issue. Pete is mostly getting crap over this because Republicans want to tarnish a Democrat with potential, not because it’s really his responsibility (trains yes, managing pollution no, though obviously there is overlap).
Pete does not have potential. He has accumulated a long list of failures in office, and people are now joking that he’s doing such a horrible job, everyone knows who the Secretary of Transportation is.
I disagree. This is as much a rail safety issue as an EPA issue, and rail safety is a DoT issue. I don’t know why he didn’t go earlier, but he should have – and he could have done so without getting in the way of immediate response teams (like meeting with families who’d been evacuated to another town).
I agree that rail safety is an issue, but I think that the part that’s gone wrong there is the chemical response, and that falls under EPA. As for heads of departments showing up, I personally find that meaningless and it’s often disruptive. In a previous job, I was involved in disaster response and got really annoyed when the bigwigs would show up and we had to stop everything we were doing for the day to be in the the background for photo ops. It’s just really counterproductive.
Co-sign this. Yes it started as a DOT issue but the current disaster is an EPA one. Rail safety will be addressed by policy and regulations, nothing that needs Buttigieg on the ground.
As an emergency manager, I can tell you there there’s no response reason for an executive to be on scene except for PR photo ops. Nothing is getting accomplished with the Secretary there. In fact, it’s just going to chew up resources and employee time to have him there.
The NTSB is really, really good at what they do. If they’re there, that’s what really matters. I’m sure the Chemical Safety Board is there too. They’re also very good but are very much in the background, IME.
Also as a formality, the executives from the feds don’t usually show up without approval of the governor. The mayor and governor have both been pretty vocal about not wanting federal support. Very specifically, no FEMA support without it being requested by the state. But also, this isn’t as in FEMAs wheelhouse as the general public thinks.
And if he had gone earlier, they’d be trashing him for being in the way of a disaster scene for purposes of a photo op.
I think I saw a statement that it’s perfectly normal to stay out of the way of immediate response teams, and move in when it’s time to discuss the way forward in terms of policy?
I guess what’s normal looks really bad.
Which begs the question of why we want politicians to visit disaster sites. Sometimes it can to offer comfort/support or raise awareness of the need for support (usually after natural disasters), sometimes it is for fact-finding (but not often because frankly their staff is better suited for that), and sometimes it is just so they can been seen to “care” by the public/media.
I live in a place that is subject to a lot of disasters and frankly wish politicians from DC would stop coming to visit in the immediate aftermath. It is a photo op, plain and simple, and our emergency responders have better things to do than escort their motorcades. And this applies to both parties.
What would he have accomplished by being there during the first week? He would have had his photograph taken and talked about how the administration was taking this seriously and would hold the transportation company accountable (which he can do from DC).
I couldn’t agree more! Having VIPs visit disaster sites doesn’t actually help the response but it does take resources and manpower away from the response!
I don’t know that I agree. I also don’t agree with the OP that going sooner would have been an easy win. Who is really influenced by these photo ops? Just speaking for myself, I want my government officials to be briefed on important developments, and make statements where applicable, but I see appearing on the ground as a negligible part of their job.
In this case, I think a lot of people had concerns that they weren’t being transparently informed about safety. If the official word is that it’s safe to be somewhere, but people aren’t sure whether to believe it, it says a lot if a higher up is willing to act on the recommendation personally.
That’s fair about the safety concerns, but from the response below it sounds like the EPA head visited early on. High ranking official, directly connected to the safety question.
IDK, I feel like when major disasters occur, you often see people on the ground pretty quickly. And he didn’t have to literally show up at the site itself to demonstrate attention and compassion – even getting to that area and meeting with displaced families would have helped. It honestly feels to me like the White House just kind of…wasn’t paying attention? Which seems crazy given that it’s a Democratic administration and an environmental disaster that affects a bunch of low-income people seems like it ought to be something a Democratic administration would be very attentive to.
Also, it’s not just that he didn’t go until today, he didn’t even publicly address it for 10 days.
You literally said it… it’s an environmental disaster. It’s not the DoT’s place to be grandstanding in stuff that’s none of their business, it’s the EPA that should be the on the ground, public face of this right now.
To be perfectly cynical, sure it may be worth something to feel like an important person cares about the dire straits that you find yourself in. But apart from the people directly affected, I just don’t see how it matters. I hope they rework policies to prevent something like this from happening again, and go after the companies if recklessness or other misconduct can be found, and protect the locals from lasting health effects. What someone says into a TV camera right now is completely disconnected from their future action or inaction.
Was this your thought when Bush didn’t visit New Orleans in 2005?
The Governor of Ohio asked the Biden administration not to come.
More specifically, the Republican governor of Ohio asked the Biden administration not to come.
At this point it much more of An environmental response than it is a transportation one. The transportation aspect of the response and investigation was handled by the NTSB and I do agree that had he been in Ohio while they were investigating then it might have appeared to tarnish their investigation.
Transportation’s role here was really to determine the cause of the derailment (as the NTSB investigation did) and then to work on mitigation efforts going forward, which is done via policy and regulations.
DOT doesn’t have a response role in something like this. The EPA would handle the environment and environmental health aspects. This isn’t a FEMA response either.
EPA Administrator Micheal Regan was there on Feb. 16.
For those of you have changed your last name, did you make an announcement on LinkedIn, or just quietly change it and hope people could still find you? What is the best/preffered approach? I know there are strong feelings about only posting professional content on LinkedIn and I’m not sure where this falls on that spectrum.
The usual strategy is First Name Maiden Name Married Name, such that January Smith, nee Jones, is January Jones Smith.
Even if that isn’t your legal name, it helps people to find you and know who this January Smith person is.
+1. I think my maiden name is in parentheses.
+1 to this approach in my circles. Most women who started out their careers with their maiden name go by first maiden married online so they still pop up in searches based on their maiden name. Depending on how well they were known by their maiden, some keep like this permanently and others drop the maiden after a few years. It’s just a litmus of if someone was looking for you, what name would they search on.
I still search under name-I-knew-you-under-first. Which isn’t great, and husbands come and go, so envying the men and Elizabeth Taylor here.
Eh, there is a lot to be said for keeping one’s name. I did and have zero regrets; although I’m not particularly fond of it, it’s the name under which I built my personal and professional life.
Same. It’s annoying that I don’t have the same name as my kids but I’m so glad I never changed my name. There are people in my professional life who have no business knowing or speculating about my marital status.
In the SEUS, but often Kelly Green becomes Kelly Green Forest, so you can see the continuity. It gets tricky with double first names that aren’t hyphenated but are sort of integral to the name (Kelly Beth Green Forest), but people figure it out. I’ve also seen Kelly (Green) Forest. But usually just changed; not with an announcement.
I didn’t make an announcement, but I just changed my name to First Name (Maiden Name) Married Name for 6ish months, and then eventually dropped (Maiden Name).
This is what I’d do.
If you do switch at work, work should keep first.maiden@company.com alive and autoforward to first.married@company so that autofill e-mails get to you. That is sort of an issue.
We needed some minor repairs done around our house and we ended up using a licensed and insured general contractor for what we could. However, we now need some things done the GC won’t do, like painting our 20’ ceiling, and we are struggling to find licensed, insured contractors. For example, person A has a liability insurance but no workers’ comp, person B is unlicensed but fully insured, person C has nothing. These are mostly people being recommended to me by neighbors, so I’m surprised they are comfortable using them. My husband thinks I’m making this too difficult and maybe that’s true as I tend to be risk averse. Am I asking for too much?
What would your umbrella policy cover?
Why do they need WC? I’m not an expert on this area of law, but absent some argument that the painting company is a shell company and not independent of you, you wouldn’t be liable.
Do painters need to have a license?
I am under the impression that if the painter doesn’t have WC and his employee is injured, I would be potentially on the hook. I am less concerned about the license for the painter, but there are several other trades I’m hiring out as well.
I work in this field. Don’t hire anyone without workers’ compensation for their staff, and you need them to have liability insurance as well.
I am a lawyer and I’ve never asked a contractor for proof of insurance. I’ve owned two houses for a cumulative 14 years and I carry umbrella insurance. This is just not something I have time or energy to worry about especially for something like painting, so I am on your husband’s side here.
The only time I’ve insisted on proof of insurance is when we’ve taken trees down near the neighbors – so there is a point, but if they have liability, that’s about what I’d discussed. I’ve never looked at Worker’s Comp unless there is some sort of yellow flag. Many of these are very small businesses, and I often try to use minority businesses, especially if the local place was trying to re-elect 42.
There is a solution for this – you can use national companies (e.g., Certapro). You will likely pay more, but it will be solved. Or, you look for painting companies that do commercial and residential – as the former will require that they are fully insured. Net result, it won’t be a couple guys with a truck.
Yes, I would do this. I have used Certapro in particular and they did a great job.
I’ve also had the “couple guys in a truck” do half the work and then never show up again, and you don’t want that either.
You’re being annoying to yourself and your husband
Any tips for dealing with direct reports that need constant reassurance about…well, basically everything? (Examples: that she’s doing a good job, that everyone appreciates her efforts, that people care about her, that things aren’t going to keep changing in our department, etc. – this last one I can’t do, because things might keep changing, but she keeps asking). And maybe people who just seem to need something from work that work can’t provide, i.e., an emotional support system.
She’s a competent performer but the emotional neediness is off the charts, and it’s at the point where not just I, but her coworkers on my team are spending a lot of time and energy on her emotional management. She is SUPER sensitive and it doesn’t take much to set her off – she was recently brought to tears when she felt like someone had ignored her in an online meeting; the person was just having problems with their audio. She constantly complains that we aren’t spending enough time “connecting” and that she “doesn’t feel connected” to the team because we don’t meet enough; meanwhile the rest of the team is begging me to find a way to cut down on the number of meetings. She’s in her 50s so I know changing her is not possible, but work is not getting done because I and others are having to spend so much time talking about her feelings with her. I feel like I want to suggest the EAP because it seems like she’s looking for free therapy at work, but I don’t think she’ll take it well. Advice appreciated.
Somewhat relevant question posted on INC.com: https://www.inc.com/alison-green/my-employee-goes-cant-handle-even-slightly-negative-feedback.html
Harsh, but this kind of person is not going to respond well to anything rational from what you’re sharing. I think as the manager you need to start setting stronger boundaries for the mental health of the rest of your team.
Ugh, I’m in my 50s and I feel like I’m very able to change. I make a point of adjusting to the styles of new/different managers and teams. So I don’t think it’s an age thing, more of a mental health thing.
As a suggestion, I do think you have to cut off this line of conversation from her if it’s interfering with your ability to get work done. If she cries, she cries. And eventually this will impact her review.
She’s clearly insecure about her role – have there been layoffs of other people in her age bracket?
+1
Ask a manager’s website is great for this. I did a site search with “needy” and it pulled up a bunch of letters she answered similar to your issue.
I think you need to have a kind, yet firm, conversation with her about the pattern that you’ve noticed and what you can and can’t do to help. And that she needs to cut it out because it’s causing problems with the workflow. Maybe an EAP referral. I’m curious: has she always been this way, or is it a relatively new thing?
Did her former boss constantly deride her and her work and withhold deserved praise? If so, she might be reacting to that and telling her expressly that you understand and that her relationship with you is different could go a long way.
Oh wow I thought you were going to say she was young. If she’s in her 50s I highly doubt it will change, unfortunately!
Treat this like any other performance issue. Tell her clearly that she is taking too much of your time/the team’s time on reviewing routine personal interactions, and that she needs to be more independent. Make sure this is in her reviews. And if it doesn’t get better, you have a clear record that you tried. Don’t try to diagnose her or suggest an EAP.
I’ve started getting into running after having to hangout at my kid’s track practice. I don’t know anything about running, I just go. I think I prefer short distances to long ones, but literally know nothing. And, sadly, I’m old enough now to be in my city’s senior olympics, so I can sign up for that (has track events) but I figure starting late is better than starting never, right? Is there a book or magazine that helps explain things? ALso, I don’t think so well in meters, so whatever 3000 meters is, it helps to think of it in terms of “how many times around a 1/4 mile track is that”. I know what a 5K is and my loop in my ‘hood is a mile (thank you, Strava!). There is a good running store with me, but I usually just go in for shoes and the people who hang out there look like distance runners (and a 5K is long enough for me).
I’m unsure what your question is, but if it’s “where can I get Track and Field 101?” just watch a few of your kid’s meets and you’ll get the hang of it.
Yes, better now than not at all! I’m 66 and started running in my late 50s after working with a trainer to strengthen my legs after years of knee issues. I run 30 minutes a few times a week. I started by doing a run-walk for 30 minutes, eventually was running more than walking, and now can run the entire 30 minutes which is almost 3 miles. I am happy running on my own, at my own pace and on my own schedule, but you may find the local 5Ks a good source of inspiration and there are running groups you might want to look into. I know there are lots of programs and apps out there but I never used one. Good luck!
Not saying you can’t do it, but if you just started running, I’d probably give it a bit before I jump to senior olympics. Senior running is still a pretty competitive crowd. Many female distance runners don’t hit their best until their late 30s/early 40s. I’d recommend finding a running club instead and see if you like that first. Or just keep running alone because that’s the best thing about running – you don’t need a team to do it.
I highly recommend the Peloton outdoor running workouts. They are audio-only, available through the Peloton app, and I think they’re fantastic. I am NOT A RUNNER in any way, but I have started doing those and it has given me a lot of confidence and encouragement.
I second this. You can also use the non outdoor runs as long as you pre download them, which gives you a lot more options.
What exactly do you want explained? Not a condescending question – do you know what you want explained?
What I’m asking –
Do you want pointers on training?
Do you want to find training plans?
Do you want to learn about the underlying exercise science?
Do you want to learn how to pace yourself in a race?
Do you want some help choosing distances to train for?
Do you want to know how to get better and how hard you can push yourself?
Yes
Exercise science: Jack Daniels, the PhD, not the bad whiskey. Buy whatever edition of his book is out now.
Distances: start with a 5k. A 3k (1.89 miles, or about 7.5 times around an outdoor track) will be close enough to this in training that you can use your 5k training to do it. Maybe throw in a bit more speed work for the 3k.
The 80/20 rule will almost certainly work for you: 80% of your miles at any easy pace and 20% of your miles for intervals, tempo runs, etc. I recommend building up to ~15 miles per week of easy running (or run/walk) before throwing in speed work, hill repeats, or tempo runs.
Hard for me to suggest a training plan without knowing where you are now. The Jack Daniels colour plans can be very helpful for this (red blue gold etc), which are based off of current fitness.
Stretch a LOT after you run. Get a foam roller.
I assume you have good footwear, but will recommend buying two pairs of shoes. Alternating shoes helps them last longer and can stave off injuries. Plus, you can get a trainer and a pair for speed work/race day.
Join a local run club if you can. Many shoe stores host weekly runs. Some breweries have pub runs. Post an approximate location and people might be able to direct you.
Most importantly, build a base and slowly add in more difficulty. Jack Daniels recommends only adding one stress at a time (ex., distance, speed, aerobic system), and adapting to that before you add in another stress.
Learning about the science of running is a lot of fun and will help your kid in track, too.
What do you need to know? The nice thing about running is that you just … do it. Unless you’re interested in training for something beyond a 5K, it’s pretty straightforward. Are you doing this for fitness, or are you wanting to get into racing?
+1
Your local running store might have running groups or educational sessions.
If you’re up for a ‘class’, Brooklyn Strength has a Virtual Run Club – it involves brief chats, instructions on runs to go on each week (e.g. run this much, walk this much, repeat this many times, or whatever, opportunities to discuss “why does my knee feel weird when I do this?” etc.) and then you upload on strava and the two coaches give you tips/feedback and the rest of the club gives you kudos. I think the next session starts in March.
I love Brooklyn Strength for the founder’s approach to bodies generally, and her approach to running made me feel like it was something I can indeed add to my routine. (I married into a family of Runners and I am Not a Runner but hey it turns out you can just like, go outside and run a little whether you identify as a Runner or not!)
There’s a lot to know about running and most of it you can access through a few channels. Your running store likely has some workshops- if they do that can be a great resource. Also- not all runners hanging around the store are long distance! Some just enjoy the sport and camaraderie. As you start out it could be helpful to learn about form- how to hold your body to help prevent injury; injury prevention & recoup procedures- stretches, icing, wrapping; and how to fuel if you do decide to go longer distances.
Running magazines like runners world have a lot of this info, your running store has quite a bit of this info likely around or via workshops or coaching.I would ask the cashier if they have a book recommendation. A physical therapist’s office might have info on injury prevention as well. This is an exciting this and I’m so glad to hear you’re starting something new! Running is all about competing against yourself- improvement & reaching new goals with others who are also focused on improvement.
I really like Coach Bennett and the Nike Run Club for guided runs and figuring out how to get started. They have some “early run” series that are helpful.
Also noting that I also really like short runs and interval training – I’m way more interested in sprinting than I am in becoming a marathoner. Sharing because I feel like there is so much pressure to get into distance running if you like running but it’s not the only way.
Go to womensrunning.com. There are a lot of resources there, including a beginner’s guide to running.
If you think you would want to run with a group, look for MRTT/SRTT (Moms Run This Town/She Runs This Town) chapters near you. The one by me is really active with lots of long and short runs.
Really random question: Does anyone know of a sheer cream eyeshadow that is a silvery blue, or a bluish silver? I have brown eyes and used to wear one like that all the time in the 90s and am curious how it would look now.
I think it would look very 90s still
yes, someone at my office wears this look, and it reminds me of the eyeshadow girls would wear to dances in like 1998.
You mean like the rest of today’s fashion?
+100000
I’d look at Urban Decay for this – you can find their eyeshadows at Sephora.
there’s this one – https://www.net-a-porter.com/en-us/shop/product/sisley/beauty/eyeshadow/les-phyto-ombres-eyeshadow-30-silky-sky/38063312418442857
How about this in Blueberry: https://www.nyxcosmetics.com/eye/color-palettes-eyeshadow/ultimate-glow-shots/NYX_1032.html?dwvar_NYX__1032_color=Blueberry-Baller
I’ve noticed recently that I’ve been getting headaches whenever it is about to rain, is raining, or recently rained. Usually they last several hours to a day. Advil helps blunt it but doesn’t eliminate it completely. Screens make them worse but of course I need screens for work. They are not completely debilitating but they are annoying and I am not my best self with a headache.
Anyone deal with these and find something that helps?
Sinus headaches from pressure change, probably. Try a Neti Pot.
Or NeilMed squeezable bottle and powder, with distilled water.
Yes, same issue. Advil Sinus Congestion works for me–it has other active ingredients in addition to ibuprofen.
I get headaches from barometric pressure changes. My formula is Advil at the very first sign + caffeine + heating pad or rice sock on my head.
Is it safe to take expired medication? I have a few hydroc0done leftover from a car accident in 2015. I am having unrelated pain now and considering taking one or half of one. Or should I just get rid of them since they’re past their date?
Get rid of them. I don’t know if they’d be dangerous, but the responsible thing to do is dispose of them properly once you’re done using them for the originally prescribed purpose. You can call any local pharmacy or CVS and they’ll tell you what to do.
I am not in medicine, but this is what my NP sister told me: The issue with expired medication is not that it “spoils” but that it loses its efficacy over time. However, there was a study done not long ago that showed that the loss of strength is very minimal and slow, so like a lot of food, most medication is actually good long past its official expiration date.
I believe this is typically the case for pills (dry stuff), but liquids or pastes should not be kept past the expiration. Come to think of it, same principle as for makeup, easy to remember!
Scientist here and this is good general guidance. As long as you’ve kept pills away from direct sunlight, moisture, and high heat, they’re probably okay. Liquids really do go bad, often pretty quickly after the expiration date or even before, if they’ve been open for a while. This could mean they don’t work, or if it’s something like eye drops or makeup, you could be at risk of an infection. I eat canned food years past the best by date, but I’m super meticulous about throwing out anything that touches my eyes or any other liquid that has the potential to get contaminated (I have a prescription nasal spray that starts to smell funny after a couple months in the summer, and that definitely gets tossed even though it’s well before the expiration date).
I have RA and I go on and off certain pills. My doc says that he talked to a pharmacologist buddy of his and says that anything in a pill form is basically good for years and years if it’s stored in a cool, dry place.
Now, I always think of something that stays 60 degrees year round when someone says cool, dry place, so I asked if my hallway linen closet was OK (where I keep everything like this) and he said of course, just don’t keep it in your car parked in the sun.
So I go back on medication that I’ve already paid for instead of getting new prescriptions, and it has always had the desired effect.
That said, OP you should not be holding onto opioids! The risk of people you know finding them and taking the is a lot higher than most people think it is. I also would not take an opioid for anything it wasn’t prescribed for.
It does 2 things: reduced potency and increased impurities (e.g. degradation products). Manufacturers don’t test longer than the expiration date. When it’s been studied, extended stability has been found to have great batch to batch variation. Prescription drugs aren’t dispensed with the expiration date for the medicine itself, just your prescription. The expiration for your medicine might have been 2016- 2019. I’m a scientist in drug manufacturing and I would dispose of them. I’m sorry you’re in pain.
The expiration date on most drugs is made up to satisfy a federal requirement that drugs have an expiration date. With very few exceptions, medications in tablet form retain their potency for years after their expiration date. There have been numerous studies on this, including by the FDA at the request of the military.
Would I take something critical after its expiration? No. Would I take a liquid after expiration? No (insulin, Epi-Pens, and liquid antibiotics are known not to hold up long past their expiration dates.) But the worst thing that happens with hydocodone is that it does not work as well as it would otherwise.
All of that said, once your pain issue is resolved, I recommend dropping anything left over off with the appropriate person or authority because narcotics are regularly stolen and it is not a great idea to have them in your house once you do not need them.
Rx pain medication is risky enough that I wouldn’t want to touch it without medical guidance. Please dispose of your old meds and also go to your doc about your current pain.
Well, studies done by the military (!) have shown that the vast majority of medications are efficacious for decades after their (arbitrary) expiration dates. This is something you should check with your doctor about, but we routinely used expired medications under a doctor’s supervision. Including some antibiotics.
There is so much waste in medication it is truly staggering. Billions of dollars worth.
BUT…. your post actually made me laugh. It was like… the start of a This American Life podcast on “How I became an addict”. I’m joking, really. But not.
No way are you supposed to be saving your old opioids and keeping them around the house asking for other family members/guests/intruders to steal them or for you to use them for pain on your own. If you are having pain serious enough to be taking an opioid, you really should be talking to your doctor, don’t you think?
+1 to “How I became an addict.” That’s how tons of people really did become addicted. It happens very very quickly.
This.
The reason I do keep a small amount ferreted away in my house is for an occasion like a broken bone where I can’t plan ahead to have a prescription filled. There are no 24 hour pharmacies anymore in my town and it might be a day or two from ER to when I can pick up a prescription. If you need a prescription outside of M-F, 8-6, you’re f**cked.
Yeah. I would have no problem taking the pills based on expiration, but these are not the kind of pills you want to take for any reason if you can help it. I read that something like 30% of people can get addicted after three days of use.
Take 600 mg of ibuprofen (this what I got in the hospital after giving birth). It should help. Get rid of the 2015 opioids at a CVS.