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three women of different skin tones displaying Essie's Touch of Sugar polish

Hat tip to the readers, who were discussing Essie's great new flat brush — it really is super easy to apply nail polish! I have zero talent for applying nail polish, and am not really the type to enjoy manicures and more than the occasional pedicure, so I frequently leave my fingernails bare and try to go with something light-colored on my toes so chips, dings, and other flubs are more easily concealed.

I'm happy to report, though, that with the flat brush, I actually got a pretty neat application of a steely blue color from their spring collection (“Reign Check“). Not every Essie polish has the newer flat brush, though, so if you're buying online I'd stick to the newer collections only.

(Target actually calls them “spring trend” or “summer trend” on their site.)

I've currently got “Touch of Sugar,” pictured, hurtling its way through the mail to me…

Readers, what are your favorite nail polish colors this summer, for toes and hands? 

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  1. Anon

    I’m the fortunate position of having a lot of extra income going forward – a big portion of it will be directed to savings, but I am looking to put some of it towards lifestyle upgrades, both practical and fun. What would you do? We already have a biweekly cleaning service and DH doesn’t want grocery delivery (he enjoys grocery shopping). I don’t know of any healthy meal delivery options locally and we’ve tried things like Blue Apron but didn’t feel like they were especially tasty or convenient. I have two young kids so time-intensive self care things like regular massages are probably not very practical, although I am thinking of treating myself to weekly blowouts, since I think that would take less time than trying to style it myself on a regular basis.

    • Triangle Pose

      Make the cleaning service weekly and if it doesn’t already, add in laundry and changing the sheets on all the beds to the service. I never want to spend my free time time making beds and have never looked back. Hire a household manager to do a list of weekly tasks. Upgrade any appliances that are getting old, faulty. Depending on your hair type, I’d just get keratin or something more sustainable rather than weekly blowouts and spend that time/money on bi-weekly massages or something with longer lasting impact than a blow out, but that might be a preference thing. Plan a family trip, or hire a travel agent to plan annual or quarterly trip – a long one and a few short ones.

    • Anonymous

      Not much money, but I started using Latisse, and it takes just a second to apply and results have been outstanding. My lashes don’t look fake but are so much longer and fuller amd I feel put together with very little or no make up. I’d love to try Botox. I’d also do a personal trainer.

    • Anonymous

      Weekly blowouts sound like a great option. I would also travel a lot both with kids, just with DH, and on my own depending on the trip type.

    • Anon

      You have two kids so who knows if this is feasible for you, but my number one lifestyle upgrade that I miss when I switched to a lower-paying job was seeing a personal trainer twice a week (6 am to 6:45).

    • Anon

      I think a strong thing to consider is not tying yourself to something that you can’t take back later. I think small upgrades to certain habits and treating yourself regularly to certain things is a great way to enjoy the extra income, but also something you can scale back immediately if necessary.
      Things that make your life easier / splashier
      – PICK UP AND DELIVERY LAUNDRY SERVICE (this one is so amazing!)
      – A new car, but throw extra money to the downpayment so that your monthly payment stays very low
      – Home reno, one small room at a time
      On random fun ideas:
      – Hire a sitter to go a regular date night with DH
      – Take your kids on family date nights (my parents did this occasionally and it was just a “family date night” where we did a fun activity outside of our norm) – painting with a twist, Ifly with the skydiving simulator, go kart racing, jumping park, kid plays in the park, etc.
      – A higher quality purse here and there
      – Weekly washes on your car
      – Membership to that expensive work out studio –
      – Getting your nails done biweekly

    • Anon

      I would get my car detailed on a regular basis, and would hire errand-running services to take care of things like dry cleaning and such.

      Fun upgrades: activities with kids. Maybe a membership at a fancy pool / country club, vacations to places where the work is done for you (Atlantis), etc.

    • JB

      Personal chef – I’d love someone to prep healthy snacks and meals for me that I can just grab out of the fridge
      Personal shopper and tailor – I don’t want to go to a store again, but want all clothes to magically appear in my closet and fit
      Upgrade cabin when flying
      Upgrade things that bother you (hello wonky end-table in my living room)

    • Anon

      Honestly, why do you want to do this? You sound like you don’t have a clear idea of any specific upgrades or changes to your lifestyle that would help, but you’re fishing for ways to spend more money. Unless you have a specific want/need that can be safely fulfilled with this money, don’t fall victim to unconscious lifestyle creep. Did you even want blowouts before you came into this money?

      • Anon (OP)

        Yes, I would like weekly blowouts. I hate how my hair looks when it’s not blown out and straightened and I’m not good at doing myself, and a salon blowout lasts way longer than my home blowouts do. I am not going to spend money on things I don’t want, but I was hoping people could give me ideas and I could ignore the ones I have no interest in and and steal some of the ones that sound appealing.
        This isn’t about lifestyle creep – we currently save a high percentage of our incomes and will save significantly more when this major debt obligation is gone, and we’re not making changes to any of our fixed expenses (housing, etc.). Just looking to put a small portion of this extra money towards things that will make our lives easier and more fun, and to celebrate the fact that this major expense is behind us and we have extra disposable income.

        • Anon

          I second weekly blowouts. I’m middle aged and was only able to afford this recently. It makes me feel much more confident and pulled together to have a professional do my hair. Mine also lasts longer than a home-done blowout and is definitely a time saver.

        • Ellen

          If you have extra money, spend some to maintain and improve your appearance. Blowouts is one way, having botox is another. Workouts is a third to keep our tuchuses slim. We are all getting older, so you want to do all you can to extend the amount of time you have to look good, as all of us who work hard will start to look haggard after years of hard work. Once that happens, our husbands or significant others can stray, even if you are the big breadwinner, as they will ask us for some of the extra money you are making to live their own lifestyle. If you want to keep your man or significant other, do NOT loose sight of this reality. That is why we just cant have our cake and eat it too. A younger man will go for an even younger women if we start to get sloppy, Grandma Leyeh says, and she is right!

      • Anon

        I feel like this response comes up every time someone asks about this. While I think it’s totally a valid concern about lifestyle creep I also think being thoughtful about picking indulgences can be incredibly effective in limiting lifestyle creep.

        As an anecdote, I got a large raise a few years back and didn’t make any changes like this but realized at the end of the year I had spent a TON more on random stuff like clothes and meals without really realizing. The bigger paychecks subconsciously made me feel like I was a high roller. Alternatively, the next raise I got, I decided to spend 25% of the raise on a spa membership for monthly massages and didn’t see a similar increase in spending across the board. I think knowing that I was already committed to spending on a monthly indulgence really helped me not fall into the trap of “oh it’s just $100, and with my new raise I can totally afford it” which adds up really really fast.

      • Anon

        I think we should give posters the respect of assuming they know how to handle their own money and only answer the question they asked.

        • Anon

          She literally asked “what would you do” and I would avoid lifestyle creep. That’s my answer.

          • Anonymous

            The definition of lifestyle creep isn’t treating yourself to nice things because you have more money. It means a shift in attitude so that you view those things as essential and are not able to give them up, even if your financial circumstances change and you really should cut back. See https://www.investopedia.com/terms/l/lifestyle-creep.asp. So long as she continues viewing weekly hair appointments as a luxury and not an essential part of her life, it’s not lifestyle creep. If you’re going to be condescending and preachy about somebody else’s finances, you should at least use financial terms correctly.

    • anon

      I had a similar question few months ago and ended up donating a big portion of it, using the rest to invest: invest towards spending time with my family (took a trip with my parents), invested in my future (signed deal for an apartment) and myself (language classes). I did not spend it on things or services that had wuestionable value for me – short or long term.

      • AnonInfinity

        This is what I’d do as well– increase my recurring monthly donations, then something like an expensive workout class or language classes or similar.

        • Anon

          Personal trainer or even a Peloton – something to make working out as convenient and appealing as possible.

          • Anonymous

            Oh, a Peloton and a keratin treatment for my hair! Not the OP but these both sound great.

    • Anon

      I started buying myself jewelry (the real stuff) when I got a raise or a bonus and I still have and wear all of it. It does spark joy when I wear it or even just look at it because it is something I did by myself, for myself. And honestly I just really love jewelry.

      As far as lifestyle upgrades it has really been about having nicer vacations. We don’t do big international vacations but yeah, we will spend $5000 going to Hawaii for a week and not worry about it. It’s in the budget. When we met, we were doing road trips were we alternated camping nights with motel 6 nights so this is a big deal.

      I firmly believe that the money is for living.

    • Law mama

      Get nice frames for all of your art or family photos. Expensive outdoor experiences as a family all year round – fishing boat, ski lessons, whatever you have always wanted to do. Personal chef to prep meals and snacks. Major donations to candidates and causes you believe in, without asking for any perks or extra reporting or shmoozing from the staff!!!

    • Ellen

      After talking to Dad about your query, I would not spend on stuff you don’t even know you want yet. Instead, SAVE your money so that you can retire early, then you can enjoy it without having to worry about going to work. Since you are already married, make sure your husband also saves, otherwise he will be a sloth and sponge off of you when you find him least desireable, Dad says. Dad knows my ex was like this and he thinks the HIVE should be sensitive to male sloths; he says the world already is aware that men are usually the breadwinners, but the same concept should apply when females, like us, wear the pants in the family and bring home the big buckeroos.

  2. TodayIsTheDay_Maybe

    My daughter starts middle school this year!?! I am taking her on a Mother/Daughter weekend before school starts, and I would love to give her a book or two during the trip to help her during this transition. I want to let her know that I will be her for her during these tumultuous years or at least I am still cool enough to know what the kids are reading these days. Y’all have the best recommendations and I was hoping you could help me out. Fiction, non-fiction, biography, really anything that either helped you in middle school or you wish you had read.

    • AnonInfinity

      I loved Judy Blume– Are You There God? and Tiger Eyes, specifically. I read both of those several times in that age range.

    • thehungryaccountant

      The care and keeping of you was a great resource to me in the 90s- not sure if there is an updated version.

      • Midwesterner

        I got this for my dd’s around that age maybe 6 years ago, and it was great then. I’m guessing still a terrific resource.

    • Ellen

      You should sing to her the song Wow, by Zara Larrson, the young phenominal Swedish music star who’s song is part of the Citi Entertainment credit card we have all been listening to all summer. I researched it at work, and Zara is a great Feminist who tho only about 21, is a lot like us in the hive. I was trying to learn the words myself, but couldn’t really until I found them on the web. Here they are. I edited out the sware word below, but you can probably figure it out for yourself. Enjoy!
      ==============
      Baby, I’m not even in a gown
      I’m just in a T-shirt on the couch
      The way you want me makes me want you now
      The only thing you have to say is (Wow)

      [Verse 1]
      And I feel this way with no chemicals in my system
      Babe, it’s incredible
      When you’re touching me, yeah, that says it all
      You said it all (Yeah)

      [Chorus]
      Baby, I’m not even in a gown
      I’m just in a T-shirt on the couch
      The way you want me makes me want you now
      The only thing you have to say is (Wow)

      [Post-Chorus]
      Make your jaw drop-drop
      Saying, my, drop-drop-drop
      Make you say “Oh my god”
      My, drop-drop
      Make your jaw drop
      Make you say “Oh my god”
      And you never felt this type of emotion
      Make your jaw drop-drop
      Saying, my, drop-drop-drop
      Make you say “Oh my god”
      My, drop-drop
      Make your jaw drop
      Make you say “Oh my god”
      And you never felt this type of emotion
      Make your jaw drop-drop
      Saying, my, drop-drop-drop
      Make you say “Oh my god”
      My, drop-drop
      Make your jaw drop
      Make you say “Oh my god”
      And you never felt this type of emotion

      [Verse 2]
      And you make me feel so f***ing pretty
      Take loving me to a new extreme
      If I can’t have you, I don’t want no one
      I don’t want no one
      As you make me dance in the middle of the street
      On the hardwood floor, we should be asleep
      If I can’t have you, I don’t want no one
      I don’t want no one, want no one, want no one

      [Chorus]
      Baby, I’m not even in a gown
      I’m just in a T-shirt on the couch
      The way you want me makes me want you now
      The only thing you have to say is (Wow)

      [Post-Chorus]
      Make your jaw drop-drop
      Saying, my, drop-drop-drop
      Make you say “Oh my god”
      My, drop-drop
      Make your jaw drop
      Make you say “Oh my god”
      And you never felt this type of emotion
      Make your jaw drop-drop
      Saying, my, drop-drop-drop
      Make you say “Oh my god”
      My, drop-drop
      Make your jaw drop
      Make you say “Oh my god”
      And you never felt this type of emotion

      [Outro]
      Never, never, never, oh
      Never, never, never, oh
      Never, never, never, oh
      Never, never, never, oh

  4. Anon

    Since so many of you work in law, I’d thought I’d get your perspective on this. I live in Southern mid-sized city and have an opportunity to pursue a business development/marketing role at one of the law firms here (about 250 attorneys). I’m pretty sure I have all the experience and contacts to make this happen if I really wanted to (it’s supporting a sector in which I’ve worked for several years and doing the type of work for which I have been nationally recognized).

    But I’m not sure about what life is like inside a firm. Will I get treated like “the help” since I’m not an attorney? Will I get called to work every weekend as a non-billing employee? Will my opinion never matter?

    What other sort of questions should I be thinking about? I have 2 kids and my current job gives me flexibility and great benefits that I’d give up if I left. But the opportunity is really interesting and it’s definitely attractive from a career-building and financial standpoint.

    • Anon

      I’m only worked in biglaw, so it may be different at a smaller firm. But, IME, the staff (as opposed to attorneys) at firms don’t generally have to work more than a 40 hour week and I wouldn’t expect to get a lot work that needs to be completed on a weekend. But, the downside, is that you are treated like a cost center that adds limited value to the firm and your opinion always matters less than an attorneys. Generally, people are nice, but at the end of the day, it’s just presenting the options to an attorney who will make the final decision or doing what the attorney has directed you to do.

      • Anon

        Generally agreed, with the caveat that my firm does have our marketing reps occasionally attend post work events where it makes sense (I’m assuming they time off other times in the week, but I’m not sure).

    • Anon

      I’ve seen this role in many firms and it is incredibly firm dependent. I’ve seen firms where the head of BD worked closely with managing partners and/or was a member of the executive committee of the firm. They performed industry research, put together initial drafts of attorney presentations, and planned all client events. A position like this at very large firms is usually a very senior BD career professional that advises on the commercial direction of the firm.
      I’ve seen other roles where BD was basically a recruiter that planned client cocktail parties and was treated like a member of the staff akin to HR – required but kind of annoying.
      You will probably have to work many evenings and weekends due to client events, not due to business development emergencies. Those don’t happen often.
      All this said you really really need to vet the firm well to determine how the role will be used. Especially in a firm of only 250, which is fairly small compared to larger law firms, the parameters role might be a bit smooshy.

    • Anon

      It completely depends on the firm. I have a similar (ish) role at a firm of 100 attorneys and am close friends with the two other women in the professional-but-not-an-attorney-or-paralegal roles here. Our firm listens to us, seeks out our input, and treats us like professionals. They hired us because we do what we do, which is not what they do. None of us is micromanaged or talked down or rebuffed – because we offer something to the attorneys that they can’t or don’t want to do.

      The only exception to the 40 hour a week guideline is if one of us has an event – either the firm is hosting something or we need to represent the firm at something. This is generally in the evening. I can think of 2 Saturday mornings I’ve worked in 2.5 years.

      I’d ask about your autonomy – who will you report to? And ask if you’ll need to bill your hours – I have to enter mine, though I don’t have billables to meet.

    • Anonymous

      My (former) superstar head of marketing was viewed as incredibly valuable to the firm because she was an awesome mentor to associates and junior partners. She was basically a career coach; she helped us to find publications, join networking groups, and get speaking engagements that we might never have considered. She would schedule quarterly calls with you to review your business plan. Of course, very few associates took her up on this, but I did and I found it really helpful. Idk if your potential new firm is looking for something like that, but if you have any mentoring experience, you might want to highlight it.

    • Anon

      I would definitely ask about travel. My firm has non-attorney people that don’t travel at all and mostly focus on communications (including applications for awards, pitching stories to media, and updating website) and other people that regularly travel all over the country for conferences and client events.
      I would also really vet how your success will be measured and consider the viability of developing business in light of the relevant political and legal climate for the practice (such as changing federal courts, EU approach to privacy, etc)

  5. Anon

    Does anyone use SkinCeuticals vitamin C serum and think it’s worth the $? I’m trying to get a really good vitamin C going in my routine and googling for the best on the market, and this one keeps coming up, but it’s like $170. I tried and did not like Drunk Elephant – it oxidized to a dark yellow quickly, and I didn’t notice any great improvements in my skincare. Almost as importantly, I didn’t like the texture.

    • anon.

      Try The Ordinary. I used their Niancimide and their Vitamin C suspension and think both have made a significant difference.

    • anne-on

      So I think the texture on all of the ones that work best is kind of meh (thin, watery, awkward to put on). Plus, they all smell like hot dog water (it’s the chemicals, but again, meh). I find it a thoroughly joyless addition to my skincare routine, plus, Vitamin C in higher concentrations can cause purging, which I was really annoyed about with my cheap serum, and would annoy me more for a $170 serum.
      So – with all that in mind – I’d go with timeless vitamin C on amazon which is basically a dupe. See if you like it for $20~ a bottle and go from there.

    • Anon

      The only vitamin C product I’ve used is Murad’s Advanced Active Radiance Serum, which is still spendy ($90) and I liked it a lot. Not enough to pay another $90 when I ran out, but I did see results.

      • Anon

        I am using the ZO (by the original Obagi guy) and I get it from my derm. I think it’s better than the Skinceuticals.

    • Anon

      There is just no reason to spend $170 on Vitamin C serum. I’d start at the Ordinary. They have multiple Vitamin C formulations with great and lengthy explanations so you can choose which is right for you.

    • Anon

      I’d personally try some of the cheaper options that are out there before shelling out the big bucks. A couple of the well-regarded (by Skincare Addicts on Reddits) are Paula’s Choice and The Ordinary. I use the PC one and I have been happy with it. It’s done wonders for my brown spots.

    • Parfait

      I would say that NO vitamin C serum is worth $170. I’ve been using the Mad Hippie C Serum and it has a nice smell and texture. I have the Sunday Riley version on deck for when I finish that bottle. If I ever run out of endless samples I plan to try the Timeless version.

      • Anon

        Which Sunday Riley? It looks like there are at least four products in their orange colored vitamin C line.

    • anon

      I use Paula’s Choice Vitamin C serum and I jave noticed a more radiant appearance of skin. I am extra pale, with sensitive skin and rarely notice any difference (unless it is irritation). I keep my bottle in fridge to help prevent oxidation. I mix the serum with my daily moisturizer, no problem with texture.

    • Anemone

      I stalk the skincare subr3ddits, and SkinCeuticals is said to continue to work well even after it oxidizes, so if it does turn like your DE serum did, it may not matter. Also, Lotioncrafter sells a dupe that gets good reviews.

      Other brands that get praise include The One and Only Mighty Melano CC , NuFountain C20 + Ferulic, and Timeless Hyaluronic Acid Vitamin C Serum.

      Paula’s Choice and DE do not get good reviews.

    • Anonymous

      My medspa gave me several samples of it, and it is good, I would probably buy it if I had unlimited funds. But, alas, funds are limited. My vitamin C serum of choice is Timeless CEF, it is a very close dupe of skinceuticals (Order from their website- not Amazon). Paula’s Choice is also very good. I’ve heard great things about Mae Love Glowmaker (has hyalorinic acid base!) but personally it broke me out (which is very odd for me).

    • BeenThatGuy

      I have it and love it. It took about 3 months to see actual results but people would literally stop me and tell me that I looked radiant (I don’t get that much at 43 years old). Do what you want based on the other feedback you’ve received, but it’s not a waste of money (assuming it’s in your budget).

      • Anon

        How long did one bottle last? Where did you buy it?

        I understand this is all complicated by what kind of vitamin c is in the serum but I understand the SkinCeuticals is the gold standard. (And patented)

        • BeenThatGuy

          I’d say it lasts 3-4 months. I started with 3-4 drops then went down to 2-3 to maximize the life of the bottle. It will oxidize, just like the Drunk Elephant, but it does not lessen the effectiveness. I purchased at Dermstore dot com and repurchase there every time.

    • Never too many shoes...

      Another vote for Timeless. Even my mother (who has tried every expensive product going) loves it.

  6. Alicia

    Any suggestions for office plants that grow under fluorescent lights – but no actual sunlight?

    My office is like that and I’ve noticed cubicles and offices with plants so some definitely survive, any suggestions for which ones?

  7. Anon

    Any recommendations for specific dining tables that seat 2? I have space in my kitchen for a small table, but a typical small table that’s 30 x 30 would overwhelm the space. I don’t want a counter-type thing where both people would be side-by-side facing the wall. I’m having a tough time finding something smaller than that. Anyone have one or seen something they like?

    I prefer a more minimal or mid-century style…

    • Anon

      Check Ikea! In my experience they always have at least a couple of options for this.

    • Anon

      Check out “Espresso Drop Leaf Extendable Dining Table” at Home Depot. Table is 22×18 with leaves down and 22×36 with leaves up. They have multiple finishes, and it’s solid wood. You can pair any seats that fit your space with it, although I’d suggest a high small back or backless stool.

    • Anon

      Go to Wayfair and search “kitchen bistro set”. A ton of those tables have dimensions below 30×30. Now if you’re trying to fit seats in a 30×30 space I don’t think that’s physically possible unless you want stools that can slide underneath.

    • Formerly Lilly

      Look at West Elm’s Box Elm Drop Leaf Expandable table. It’s 24” if you drop both sides. I have an antique that does this that has two old fashioned drop in sections and drop leaf sides. It will seat two snugly with no leaves or six comfortably or eight smushed with both sections in and the side drops up. I think this one at west elm would work to seat two in a compact arrangement by the wall, or put the sides up and have a 48 x 32 work or dining space.

    • Of Counsel

      You might check Wayfair. They have a bunch of tables under 30″ (the pub tables as examples).

    • Mpls

      You’re probably not going to find something marketed as a dining/kitchen table that is smaller than 30×30. That’s a pretty small table. But you might be able to look at tables more generically to find a larger/taller end table that could work.

      Do you know what dimensions you *do* want? I think you’re going to need a minimum of 24×24″ right? And even that’s going to feel small when you’ve got a person on either side. Can you aim for 24″ by 30″? What about a round cafe table that is 30″ in diameter, but since it’s round, isn’t a square 30″?

      Would it work to do a wall mounted table that folds away when not in use?

      • Anon

        I think something 24″ x 24″ up to 24″ by 30″ would work – its maximum used would be used by me and my child together for breakfasts – I have a real dining table elsewhere for more people or bigger meals. I’m concerned that a full 30″ would block the walking space too much and make the kitchen cluttered. I’ve measured a few small tables in cafes to be around 24″ and the seem to be big enough for what I would like.

        Thank you everyone – I will check all the options.

    • nutella

      You need a “bistro table” (sometimes called “cafe dining”). CB2 has one in the outdoor section that is 27.5″ diameter (called Watermark). If you can push it against a wall, you could do a rectangular one – search “2 seat dining” or “2 person dining.”

  8. Paging person asking for Appellate Fed

    Hey! I’m appellate fed and just sent an email to your burner address. Feel free to reach out there.

    • Anonymous

      Interested in this as well. We are considering this in our coastal town. Friends have had positive experiences and it seems cost-effective once you price out maintenance, dry storage, slip fees, etc.

    • Leatty

      I’m not, but a friend is. He uses it most weekends and seems to be really happy with it.

  10. Anon

    No one’s answered Kat’s question so far – what nail polish colors do you like this summer? I’ll start. Don’t do fingers. For toes, wearing Butter London Royal Appointment, and Gucci Dark Anemone. But both are kind of dark and drab. Other ideas welcome!

    • NOLA

      I tend to go for blues and purples. I’m wearing CND Vinylux in Wisteria Haze. I’ve also worn the one the is more lavender than blue (maybe Gummi? Not sure). I also tried a new Essie color this summer that was more pink (might have been Play Date), but I always end up going back to periwinkle and wisteria as my go-to summer colors. For periwinkle, I usually wear Essie Bikini so Teeny.

  11. Clara

    How many hours a day do you think you productively work?

    I have a busy job – there’s always work to do. But I find that after 6pm my energy and focus really start to flag. For those of you who work long hours – how focused are you late in the evening

    • Anon

      I think this is a personality thing. I have a hard time focusing on harder tasks before noon, but am really productive between 4 and 8 pm. Not ideal for how the us workforce is set up

    • Anon

      Horrible in the pm. But it depends on your natural energy. I do far far better, if I must sleep 6 hours per night rather than my ideal 8-9, sleeping 10-4 (and getting up to work then for a few hours before going into the office) than a night owl sleeping 2-8 etc. I have no idea why – it is after all the same number of hours in a day – but somehow stealing the hours from the morning works better.

    • Not a Fun Guy

      It can vary for me. Maybe 6ish on average of actual productive work (vs things like just listening to conference calls), but some days when I have a deal closing or tight deadline and I slept well the night before I can kick that up to like 8-10. My ideal schedule would be productive work in the morning, a 2-3 hour break to exercise or nap in the afternoon, and then another few hours in the evening, but most jobs are not really accommodating of that…

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