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Happy Friday! I went on a hunt a few weeks ago for some fun sneakers — something a bit different but not TOO out-there (cue the Givenchy sock-sneaker). Somehow I ended up browsing Veja shoes, which I admit I'd never heard of. The company makes “Meghan Markle’s go-to sneakers” and was on Vogue‘s list of “8 Of The Best Eco-Friendly Trainer Brands To Know Now” last month.
Veja recently did a collab with fellow French label Make My Lemonade with the V-10 Sneaker. Nordstrom has two colorways: the pictured lavender/red/pink/navy and the green/pink. (The third, available at Veja's website, is a mustard yellow/sky blue/orange.) I love the bright colors in somewhat unexpected combinations, and I went with the pictured one.
The weather in upstate New York hasn't exactly been nicer-sneaker-friendly lately, so I've only had one or two chances to wear these, but it was enough to confirm that they're comfortable shoes.
The V-10 is available at Nordstrom for $160. You can also find the pictured color combo (which comes with both white and purple laces) at Zappos, along with several V-10 colorways not included in the collab, including all-black and all-white. Amazon also has a selection, starting at $150.
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Sales of note for 9.10.24
- Nordstrom – Summer Sale, save up to 60%
- Ann Taylor – 30% off your purchase
- Banana Republic Factory – Up to 50% off everything + extra 20% off
- Bergdorf Goodman – Save up to 40% on new markdowns
- Boden – 15% off new styles
- Eloquii – $29 and up select styles; up to 50% off everything else
- J.Crew – Up to 50% off wear-to-work styles; extra 30% off sale styles
- J.Crew Factory – 40-60% off everything; extra 60% off clearance
- Lo & Sons – Warehouse sale, up to 70% off
- M.M.LaFleur – Save 25% sitewide
- Spanx – Lots of workwear on sale, some up to 70% off
- Talbots – BOGO 50% everything, includes markdowns
- White House Black Market – 30% off new arrivals
Sales of note for 9.10.24
- Nordstrom – Summer Sale, save up to 60%
- Ann Taylor – 30% off your purchase
- Banana Republic Factory – Up to 50% off everything + extra 20% off
- Bergdorf Goodman – Save up to 40% on new markdowns
- Boden – 15% off new styles
- Eloquii – $29 and up select styles; up to 50% off everything else
- J.Crew – Up to 50% off wear-to-work styles; extra 30% off sale styles
- J.Crew Factory – 40-60% off everything; extra 60% off clearance
- Lo & Sons – Warehouse sale, up to 70% off
- M.M.LaFleur – Save 25% sitewide
- Spanx – Lots of workwear on sale, some up to 70% off
- Talbots – BOGO 50% everything, includes markdowns
- White House Black Market – 30% off new arrivals
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Anon
What’s on your list of weekly chores/errands/life admin vs monthly, and how long would you say you spend on chores/errands/admin?
I am using tonight/tomorrow morning to get ahead of to do’s for the month (suddenly got busy but luckily all with fun things!), and am suddenly drawing a blank on what I need to do.
Curious
Finances: Edit budget categories (as needed/ monthly), download tax forms (Jan-Feb) and start entering into TurboTax, rebalance portfolio (quarterly). Grumble about medical bills not matching insurance and make calls (when I have energy).
Home maintenance:
Make sure we keep up with furnace maintenance, gutters tree maintenance (each annual). Hire + supervise cleaners (every 3 weeks). Dry mop kitchen daily. Wipe down bathroom sinks and change towels weekly or sooner for hand towels. Repairs as needed.
Family and community: hubs manages baby’s doctor appointments. We both track our own physicals and teeth cleaning. I do gifts for kids’ birthdays, friends’ successes, my parents and sibs.
Car: routine maintenance.
Anon
Weekly – grocery shopping (order online, curbside pickup), laundry, financial maintenance like checking bank/credit cards, paying bills that can’t be put on autopay and moving money around as necessary (could do this less often, but I like being on top of our financial stuff)
Biweekly – tidy up for cleaning service
I can’t really think of too many things that are monthly on a regular basis.
Some other big chores are doing our taxes and doing big cleanouts where we take lots of stuff to Goodwill, but those are done on an annual or semi-annual basis.
I don’t feel like I spend a lot of time on chores, but we have the money to outsource cleaning (and I have low enough standards that we don’t really clean between biweekly visits) and yardwork and I’m low maintenance beauty wise (haircuts every few months and that’s pretty much it).
Bonnie Kate
Finance admin – DH and I both get paid bi-monthly and I do all my bills, review checking account, ccs, and other financial stuff on that schedule too. Maybe 1 hour twice a month.
Meals – I meal plan one month at a time at the beginning of every month. Probably takes 1 hour, depending on how many blanks I draw when I’m doing it. After years and years and years of doing this I’m FINALLY starting a spreadsheet tracking meals, so hopefully that will make it easier when I have a few months to copy. I’m typically the queen of spreadsheets so it’s weird that I haven’t been using them all along.
Grocery List – follows the meal plan. I used to do a big shop at the beginning of every month, and then go every other week, but it’s hard to do the fresh produce that way and I”m back to weekly shopping right now.
Laundry – DH does this throughout the week, making sure on weekends everything is done. I put away my own stuff, so maybe around 10 minutes including hanging things up.
Dishes – I load the dishwasher, run every few days when full, and put away.
Cleaning – I keep a pretty tidy house but it’s not SUPER CLEAN – like there’s no clutter anywhere, but there’s probably dust on my baseboards and I need to figure out what to clean the stupid soap scum off my shower tile because the stuff I have isn’t cutting it. Mostly I clean things mostly as I notice – like wipe down counters, tables, etc when I notice they’re dusty. DH is trying to get us on these housecleaning party nights, where we both spend 2-3 hours doing deeper cleaning once a month where we each take tasks. I like this very much in theory but it’s been rocky the past few months mostly because we have unequal expectations and I’m bad at letting him just do things his way. Since we started this though, he’s a lot better at randomly vacuuming when he notices it’s needed. We have a dog, no kids – I think no kids makes this kind of laissez faire cleaning work okay.
Anonymous
For your soap scum:
Spread a thin layer of dish soap over the scum, or spray from spray bottle. Let sit fifteen minutes. Use a dish brush style brush, wet the brush, use circular motion on scum. Rinse.
If it’s not actually soap in your scum, but limescale or something, you need something acid instead, but dish soap is made to get rid of grease.
Bonnie Kate
Awesome, thanks! I kind of threw that in there thinking someone here would know how to solve this. :) I’m going to try this weekend.
Senior Attorney
For lime scale, Lime Away is made just for that purpose and it works like a charm.
Ellen
I have to print this out for my cleaning lady. She tells me the soap scum is my fault, which is probably b/c of all of the conditioner I use on my hair, but so what? That is why I am paying her so much money ($150 for mabye an hour or so!) People gladly pay me for my advise and counsel b/c I am a legal expert, and my cleaning lady is getting paid all that money b/c she is supposedly a cleaning expert. But I will be nice and give this printout to her when she comes in to clean the toilet and shower on Tuesday. Let’s see if she can read this and implement it so that my shower is shiny again! YAY!!!
Anon
For soap scum, I mostly clean with a mix of Dawn and vinegar (I keep this mixed in a spray bottle). Every six months or so there will be some stubborn stuff that I scrub off with a mix of Dawn and baking soda. I do use stainless steel cleaner for the appliances, but otherwise Dawn, vinegar, and bleach work for almost everything else.
I’m also a huge roomba fan. We have two cats so we run it every other day, and that’s really the extent of my regular cleaning. Otherwise I wipe down counters, sinks, and floors every time I cook or am waiting for something in the kitchen, clean the bathrooms every time they look like they need it, etc.
Anon
Argh, not sure what kind of typo or autocorrect error turned baking soda into bleach, but I definitely don’t use bleach for anything but killing really stubborn mold. Even that I usually use vinegar for! I meant Dawn, vinegar, and baking soda work for most cleaning.
Bonnie Kate
I’m intrigued by the dawn and vinegar mix – I think I’ll mix some of this up too! I promise I won’t use bleach! :)
Oh the Roomba, yes we have one too. If I remember to tend to it (mine seems like it needs a good amount of tending to) that runs every day too. But I kind of hate the background sound of it so I try and run it when we’re not home.
Friday Anon
I use Dawn + vinegar too. I pour the mix into those dishwand/sponge things with the handle. I keep one in the kitchen and one upstairs for cleaning the bathroom tubs and sinks.
Anonymous
weekly: order/replenish groceries, plan meals for week, do dishes/laundry/cleaning as needed during week.
every 2 weeks: change sheets, clean bathrooms, pick up clothes on floor
monthly: pay bills, move money around to invest/save/pay as needed.
anon
Weekly–Food–meal planning, grocery shopping, cleaning out refrigerator, unloading groceries. Laundry, including sheets on my and DH’s bed. Yardwork during late spring and summer.
Monthly–Deep cleaning the kitchen. Yardwork except in late spring and summer. Finances–reviewing credit card charges, adjusting budget categories. General paperwork like scanning documents, filing papers, paying any paper bills (our regular bills are automated, but we have a few per month from doctors, plumbers, etc.). Some laundry–shower curtains, sheets on Kiddo’s bed.
At least, that’s what we’d be doing weekly and monthly in an ideal world.
anon
I keep it as simple as possible because obviously there’s a million things I’d rather do than chores. My apartment is clean but not perfect. I’d say I spend 5 mins a day + 45 mins a week cleaning, but that 45 mins is broken up.
– Daily: Every night I spend approximately 5-10 minutes tidying up and getting prepped for tomorrow: putting everything away, dealing with clothes that are worn but not ready to be washed, laying out clothes for the next day, etc. Clutter really stresses me out (and Im naturally very disorganized/ADHD) so I do this daily. Sometimes during this time I’ll feel inspired to tackle a mini project, but not frequently. I have a little Dustbuster so occasionally break that out.
– Food: On Sunday or Monday I decide what I’ll be cooking, make a grocery list and go food shopping (45 mins, including walking to/from the store). I probably cook 1/3 of my meals myself, so this is not a long list or activity. When I unpack my groceries, I do a quick sweep of the fridge/cabinets and get rid of anything old (5 mins). I cook 1-2x a week and eat leftovers or very easy meals the rest of the time. On days I cook, I clean up the kitchen when I’m done and do any hand washing needed (5-10 mins). I occasionally have to load/unload the dishwasher, but honestly my roommate usually does that! I clean the appliances, etc. on occasion but not super frequently (with the hope that my roommates also do this, but they probably don’t). When I had fewer roommates, I’d do appliances weekly.
– Laundry: I usually do laundry twice a week – on a Sunday (if I’m around) and once when I’m working from home. I’m low maintenance with laundry – wash everything together, but I do hang dry a lot (when I’m not being lazy). Every Sunday I change my sheets/towels/etc. Doing laundry, changing out linens, and folding/putting laundry away is maybe 10 mins of work.
– Bathroom: Once a week I give my bathroom a quick clean: wipe down mirror, vanity, toilet and floors (5-10 mins). Most days after I shower I spray down my shower with a daily shower spray to stretch out how often I clean my shower (prob every 4-8 weeks).
– Bedroom: Every week I swiffer and/or sweep my floors (no carpet in my bedroom so no vacuuming) and dust my desk/bureau/bedside table (10 mins). I try to also spend like 10 mins organizing something – refolding a drawer, straightening a shelf, etc. I have basket which is my “junk drawer” – I throw everything without a home (or with an inconvenient home) in it and approx once a month go through and put those things away. Approx once a month I also clean my humidifier, windex my window/mirror and do a full floor clean (sweep, swiffer, mop). Even less frequently (quarterly?) I dust my baseboards and ceiling fan.
– Common areas: I live with 3 roommates, so I just accept that my living room / kitchen aren’t as clean as they were when I had one roommate (and would clean weekly). We have a Roomba that runs every other day and I clean on an as needed basis but no schedule here. In the past I’d sweep weekly, dust/mop monthly. I probably spend 15 mins/month on this.
– Other: I don’t do this very often. I live across the street from CVS, so I pop in as needed. I usually add stuff to my Target cart over the course of several weeks and then when I’m ready to buy, do an in-store pickup on my walk home from work. I do a quick financial check-in almost daily and try to deal with my mail as it comes in. I have a running Goodwill donation bag and when it’s full I drop it off there. I probably take about 45 mins every few weeks to knock out life admin in a batch: book tickets, order gifts, sort mail/paperwork, cancel subscriptions, take books back to the library.
I like things to be “clean enough” and not cluttered, but my standards aren’t very high (I thought they were until I was once told here that swiffering “doesn’t count as cleaning floors”). I’ve found for me that doing things regularly (daily and weekly) REALLY helps; I get overwhelmed if I go more than a week or two between cleans.
Anon
Out of curiosity, how do you clean your humidifier? Ours is looking gnarly but not quite sure how to deal with it.
Cat
We use a vinegar bath and a really sturdy scrub brush to get the mineral build-up off the heat element.
Anonymous
Monthly (on the same day each month):
Bathe dogs
Dog medications
Drain and clean washer
Clean dishwasher
Clean disposal
Change air filters
Clean light fixtures, door knobs, switch plates, doors and walls (dogs make these dirty)
Make returns
anon
How do you clean your doors/walls? Everything I’ve tried (particularly near door knobs) leaves a sticky feel.
Anon
Soap and water.
Anonymous
I use Behr wipes.
going out
Fun Friday question. When the plague dies down, my husband and I are planning to start attending live music shows in smaller venues. Up until now our concertgoing has been mostly limited to the symphony (c-tail attire) and outdoor concerts (shorts). What does a reasonably fashionable adult person wear to a show in a smaller theatre or a club? The music genres will vary but will be what you’d expect for generic 40-somethings–nothing that really has its own fashion culture. For winter I’m thinking leather jacket, plain tee, gray straight-leg jeans, booties. For warmer weather I have no idea. Is the concept of the going-out top coming back in? I am usually a dress person, but that seems like it would be either too dressy or too casual depending on the dress.
Curious
What city?
Anonymous
Richmond, VA
emeralds
Your winter outfit sounds fine! For summer I’d wear a casual dress with a fun accessory or two, or maybe a miniskirt + slightly elevated tee if you’re concerned your dresses aren’t going to hit the right note. You could also do jeans and the 2022 version of a going-out top (aka: high-waisted jeans with a tight shirt tucked in/bodysuit or a crop top) (ps. go to Clementine and ask one of the super cute sales associates to help you find something! they don’t have the most comprehensive size ranges, but they were my go-to for cute, current, appropriately adult clothes when I lived in RVA, and the associates always have GREAT style).
If you share the venues I might be able to speak more to vibe. But honestly, you’re gonna see a ton of different looks out in RVA, so I wouldn’t worry too much. Have fun!
Anonymous
We need to do some more research, but one venue that comes to mind is the National.
emeralds
You’ll see all kinds of looks at the National. I would put on clothes that make you feel cute, comfortable shoes, and go have a blast!
pugsnbourbon
Your winter outfit sounds great! You could change it up with jewelry.
For summer – maybe a romper or a t-shirt dress with chunky flat sandals?
anon
I wear a lot of casual dresses + sandals to concerts in the summer!
Senior Attorney
In the summer I like fun skirts with plain or graphic tees, and sandals or sneakers.
Anonymous
Is the leopard midi hopelessly passe?
Senior Attorney
I hope not because I have two of them. But I suspect it probably is. I have a snake print pleated midi that’s been getting more use than the leopard lately.
Bonnie Kate
I would wear a black dress that looks good by itself and jean jacket with black strappy sandals. That’s my perfect summer outfit, because if I feel like the occasionally is suddenly dressier than I thought, I can just lose the jacket. But the jean jacket helps make it casual. And mine has pockets and I just generally love a
The black dress for me would be a black sleeveless knit knee length that is fitted but not skintight.
anonymous
Is there a plague where you live, or are you referring to the omicron variant of Covid-19, which (according to the CDC) has an all-age mortality rate for a vaccinated person of 0.1 in 100,000 persons?
Anon
That’s helpful.
Anon
Go away.
Anon
BYE
Anonymous
The one that’s keeping my hospital from performing surgeries that aren’t emergencies right now so I get to keep waiting?
Anonymous
One third of Covid survivors have long Covid symptoms.
Anon
The death rate in fully vaccinated people in the states near me that publish relevant data has been as high as 2 in 100,000. 0.1 in 100,000 would be a real good day! I wonder where the CDC is getting that data from if not the states?
Anon
Never mind, looks like CDC’s data ends at Dec. 4 and is only accurate through that date (why are they so behind??).
Concert goer
I attend at least one concert a week (sometimes more), and have since August 2021 when this type of thing started happening again. I wear the same thing I’d wear on a daily basis – jeans or linen pants, t shirt or sweater, boots or sneakers. No need to overthink it. You’ll see people wearing everything. I’m in NYC if that matters.
anon
I am so jealous of your life! I feel like I (sometimes) go to a lot of concerts, but no where near once a week!
Anon
For a small music venue I’ll wear exactly what you’re saying. Black or dark gray skinny pants (my favorite are the Kohls Candie’s Zip Pocket Skinny Pants, but I think they’re discontinued) with boots to protect my toes in the crowd, an interesting fitted tee, and a jacket. For warm weather, lose the jacket.
I always wear very skinny-fit clothing to this sort of event, because close quarters brings out the pickpockets (my husband’s car key was lifted a couple of years ago). I’m hoping social distancing will help with that.
Anonymous
Have you “had your colors done” via an independent consultant, color me beautiful or one affiliated with House of Colour or another seasonal color analysis group? I’m feeling so blah and while I know some colors that work for me and have put tons of mental energy into this over the years, I have tricky coloring (extremely ghost pale with yellow undertones so just look… sallow a lot). Struggling with the idea of dropping $$$ for something I should be able to do myself. I have a major birthday coming up though… was it worth it???
Curious
I haven’t done it but want to! Same here with spending far too much time on it so far with limited success. At some point I see it like paying for the gym class… Sure, maybe I can cobble together workouts, but I do so much better I’d someone tells me what to do.
Anon
My parents had the Color Me Beautiful book when I was a kid, and I was so very obviously a Summer and those colors are so very obviously the ones that I naturally gravitate toward and look good on me that I’ve basically never thought about it since I was five years old! I don’t know if that book is still in print, but I’d check that out before spending money on a consultant. But I guess if your coloring is trickier and you enjoy this kind of thing, it could be fun to do.
anon
Just bought the kindle version of the book, I hope it works! I struggle with even figuring out what undertones I have, so I need some serious help!
anon
I haven’t, but would consider it if my season was harder to identify. As it turns out, I am pretty easily identifiable as a summer! (Which can present a problem when shopping for fall/winter clothing because so many options are either very bright or very warm.)
Anon
Yes and there are different schools of thought on it so it depends. I’m a fairly obvious summer but my hair runs auburn so for some people, that automatically puts me in an autumn group despite my pinky skin and blue eyes. The analysis is only as good as the person doing it, so read reviews carefully.
Anya
I would love to know what my colors are, any recommendations for books or other online resources?
I’m of Indian descent, red undertones, dark brown hair (last night a guy I’ve been dating said he thought it was black), dark brown eyes, medium-dark skin (my concealer or foundation usually has “honey” in the name)
Greensleeves
theconceptwardrobe.com has a lot of good explanations and analysis online
Anonymous
+1, The Concept Wardrobe made this easy.
Anonymous
OP here- I have been following a lot of “House of Colour” accounts on Instagram which is a fun place to start!
Anonymous
You sound like a warm spring or one of the autumns. I would actually check out some warm spring palettes online and see how you like them (just google “color palette warm spring”). If those colors seems uncomfortably light, look at deep autumn instead.
Anonymous
I am enjoying “House if Colour” Instagram accounts!
Anonymous
I’m going to say no, not worth it, for two reasons: you have already “put tons of mental energy into this over the years” and are “feeling so blah.” It sounds like you’ve already looked into this a LOT. And you’ve probably discovered that there really isn’t a solution that works for you in the way you’d like it to, because your coloring doesn’t fit into the dominant categories that people use for these things. The reason I’m say “nah” is because, on a major birthday, you might spend money merely to still end up feeling blah about yourself. That doesn’t sound like fun.
What about spending that money, instead, on a session with a make-up artist? Or a stylist? Someone who can help you feel less blah, but do it in a way that doesn’t involve something that sounds like it has mostly discouraged you rather than helped you.
Anon
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I can’t imagine putting “tons” of mental energy into what colours to wear. I wear what I like. Try a new hair colour or makeup instead.
Anonymous
Eh, it’s a pretty low stakes thing to occupy my mind right now – it’s non pandemic related!! (My work is also pandemic related.) I don’t wear much makeup and am not planning to start so it’s just a fun thing to think about.
Anon
I agree. And if I can feel better just by wearing colors that suit me? I’m all in.
Joggers
I also agree. Change my hair color? Spend / waste lots of time and money experimenting with new make-up? How about learning that with my winter coloring the rich blues and greens that I never bought looked amazing next to my face and now that one cashmere scarf makes me feel and look great every time I wear it. So nice to realize now why everyone asked me if I was sick if I wore mustard or olive. Well, it’s fine to like a color…but much more useful to learn which colors to save for pants/accessories. They also told me which makeup colors worked better for my coloring. Saved me a lot of $$
I thought getting colors done was so silly when we got a gift certificate for a friend. But when she invited me to come and they did my colors too, boy was I surprised.
Greensleeves
I haven’t been able to categorize myself and was feeling the same way as you, so I just signed up to do this! I went through Created Colorful, which I originally found through Instagram. It’s all virtual – you take reference pictures in the colors they request and after some back and forth, they send your results. There was no one in person in my area with good reviews and Created Colorful has a lot of great reviews, so I decided to give it a try. I’ve sent in my pictures and some follow up, and I can report back once I get my results if anyone is interested!
Bonnie Kate
I’m super interested and would love to hear your end result!
anon
Please report back! I’m very intrigued
Anonymous
Based on the few things you described, I would guess that you are a light summer and that you have been excluding that as an option because of having yellow undertones. Summer can have undertones like yellow towards olive, doesn’t have to be stereotypical pink rose kind of cool.
Look at your eyes – if you have yellow or golden flecks in your iris, then maybe spring is a better match, but I would guess that you have a uniform and muted whole color iris without the yellow.
Anonymous
OP- Oh, I have dark reddish brown hair and brown eyes and look TERRIBLE in muted colors and many cool colors so I’m pretty sure not summer! In fact it’s the only season I’m sure I’m not ?
Anon
Pretty much sounds like a deep autumn if you look terrible in muted and cool colors
Anonymous
Ahaha, yes with those additional bits of information I definitely will retract the summer suggestion! I think summer people often get it wrong, but not with your hair, no. :-D
Agree with other poster that deep autumn could be something to look at, but also clear spring and clear winter – all of those three are a little “off” and not so stereotypical within their season, and with zero muted colors.
Distinctives that break with the season – clear spring can wear black, clear winter can wear bright warm colors and deep autumn is more dramatic and dark in colors than the red/brown/orange autumns.
Anonymous
I have medium skin with yellow undertones, hazel green eyes and light ash brown hair.
Jewel tones look best on me, followed by greys and rich browns. Anything with yellow in it makes me look sallow. I can wear fall tones all right, but years that lean into mustard, taupes, or olive/drab greens are disasters for me.
Find you favorite outfit or photo and then build from what works. If you’ve got a favorite single color dress or shirt, find that color on a color wheel and identify the complementary color and the color triad of that color. Try those three colors next!
Remember to pay attention to saturation and hue. Good luck!
Bonnie Kate
If you’ve already done your colors and thought a lot about it, why don’t you spend the $$$ on some new nice makeup instead?
Anon
Is “getting your colours done” a thing in 2022?? I thought that was for old ladies.
Anon
I have pretty basic colors and did an online quiz, and I thought it was useful. If you’ve been trying to figure it out for a while and currently look kind of sallow, I would definitely spend the money for an expert.
Anonymous
There’s an old series on Anuschka Rees’ blog about finding your type – color analysis. I found it really helpful in figuring out which colors look best on me and why. She goes more into depth than just Spring, Summer, Fall and Winter. For example, she talks about how the level of contrast between your skin color and hair color affect what colors look best on you.
Anon
My 4 year old would LOVE these shoes.
AIMS
I sort of REALLY want the blue and orange pair.
Senior Attorney
Hello, I am four.
Anon
Heh me too. I would buy them but she would get so upset that she couldn’t have matching ones.
Evening Routines
what are your evening routines from like 5pm to bedtime? trying to get a better system in place for myself. thank you!
anon
I wake up 3 hours before I start work so I can read, spend some time on a hobby and workout in the morning so my evenings are free for fun things (not that those 3 aren’t fun).I have plans after work most nights a week (probably 4/5 week nights?), they range from chill/short (grabbing a drink, hanging at a friends house) to longer/more intensive (club sports game, bar trivia).
On the rare night without plans, I come home, put on comfy clothes, cook dinner, and spend my evening hanging with my roommates and watching TV. I try to head upstairs around 930 and try to be in bed by 1030. My night routine is pretty simple: clean up the kitchen (if I cooked) and bring any belongings I have downstairs up to my room with me; set a 5 min timer and tidy up/put things away in my room; spend about 5 mins getting ready for the next day (layout workout clothes and work clothes, review my calendar, pack my work bag); do my skincare/brush teeth and floss, put on PJs, meditate and then light a candle and get into bed with sleepy time tea and my book. I read a chapter or so then blow out the candle and turn on Netflix and fall asleep watching that. I used to shower at night, but now that I workout in the AM I shower then.
If I’m home and bored (I’m not a huge TV person) I’ll usually work out again, call a friend to chat, or spend extra time reading/doing a hobby. I also usually do a load of laundry or run errands on weeknights (right after work if I don’t have plans, on my way home from happy hour, etc. if I’m doing that) to clear up my weekends, but save most chores for an hour or two on Sunday. I should probably switch to chores on weeknights, since my weekends have gotten busy again.
Basically I”m a very energetic extrovert who hates spending the evenings vegging out on the couch so I fill my nights with plenty of hobbies and socializing, which is not for most people! I try to have an hour or two of calm on Sunday nights where I paint my nails, do a facemark, have a drink and watch bad TV and maybe one Friday night a month where I order takeout and watch bad TV, but that’s the max of my vegging.
Anonymous
Ymmv if no kids. 2 kids, WFH.
5-5:30: usually work while spouse cooks dinner and kids watch TV but sometimes I cook.
5:45-6:30: dinner, manage kid shenanigans (one kid eats sooooo slowwww)
6:30 dishes while spouse bathes kids OR lie on the floor while kids play (more realistic)
6:45-7:30 or 7:15- 8:15 get kids ready for bed – one is a little earlier/faster. We alternate nights.
8:15-9 exercise
9-10 dishes, make lunches, text with friends
10-11:30 flop
Pre kids, with an office litigation job:
7:00 finish work
7:00-8:00 gym
Walk home
8:30-9 cook dinner
9 eat dinner
Then dishes, flop, bed
Bonnie Kate
ooh I love designing routines. I only very loosely follow one, but good lord I like putting one down on paper.
A general day with very loose times –
I get home sometime between 4-5pm most days (in office by 7am, ending time is whenever I feel like it) –
4-5pm – workout. first thing I do when I get home. probably a peloton yoga, strength, or boxing class, 20-45 min.
5pm-6pm – make dinner and eat it, put it away, lightly clean kitchen/do dishes
6pm-7pm – shower, wash face
7pm-9pm – watch shows with husband
9pm – in bed, read, garden, asleep by 10pm
1-2 times a week I’ll not workout and use the extra time to take a bath.
Bonnie Kate
no kids. work in an office that’s 5 minutes from home.
anon
Mine will only be helpful if, like me, you would like to have too many hobbies! It will become apparent that I clearly have no children . . .
Mon: 5:00 – 5:30 let the dogs out, feed the dogs and cats, casually listen to the local news, 5:30 – 6:00 putter and switch into cycling gear, 6:00 – 7:00 indoor trainer ride, 7:00 – 7:30 shower and putter/eat dinner, 7:30 – 9:00 read/crossword/tv, 9:00 – get ready for bed to be in bed no later than 9:30
Tues: 4:00 – 4:30 dog routine, 4:30 – 5:15 drive to the barn, 5:15 – 7:00 ride horse do barn stuff, 7:00 – 7:45 – drive home, 7:45 – 8:00 shower and get ready for bed, 8:00- 9:00 read/crossword/tv, then bed (eat somewhere during this mess, usually)
Wed: same as Mon until 5:30, then either make dinner or get dinner with a friend for our standing Wed friendate, 8:45 /9:00 home or kick him out and proceed to bedtime routine
Thurs: same as Mon until 5:30, 5:30 – 8:00 putter, eat dinner, read/crossword/news/tv, 8:00 – 9:45 drive to and attend ballet class, proceed to bedtime routine upon returning home
Fri: same as Mon until 5:30, 5:30 on can be any one of hang with friends, chill on couch with dogs and tv/crossword/read, in bed no later than 10:00
Anon
WFH, two young kids. I work out in the a.m. or over lunch hour; work generally 7 – 4:30.
By 5, all kids are picked up and home. I start dinner while DH manages 18 m.o. and 7 y.o. reads or watches t.v.
5:30 – 6:15ish dinner
6:15 – 7 baths for kids on bath nights; play with kids
7 – baby to bed
7-8 play board games or read with 7 y.o.
8 – 7 y.o. to bed
8 – 8:45 dishes, clean up, shower
8:45 – 10 household mgmt while watching bad t.v. with DH (90 day fiance, anyone?) (pay bills online, trip planning, responding to mom’s many meandering emails, reserve library books from Goodreads list. I keep a ‘to do’ list during the day for me to do at night – helps me stay focused during the day.)
10 – 10:30 read / bed.
Senior Attorney
We are not really into chores during the week, other than daily things like cleaning up the kitchen and doing the dishes. Laundry and things like that are generally saved for the weekends. We used to do a lot of socializing and recreation in the evenings but COVID has really put a crimp in that. Now it’s pretty basic:
Get home, change into sweats/comfy jeans/leggings and sweatshirt or tee.
If it’s early enough and still light, take a power walk around the neighborhood.
Deal with the mail and dirty lunch and coffee containers from work, unload dishwasher if Hubby didn’t do it in the morning.
Cook dinner or keep Hubby company while he cooks. Maybe a little computer or reading time if Hubby is cooking.
Eat dinner, clean up kitchen completely including wiping down all surfaces, start dishwasher. (Generally the person who didn’t cook does the cleanup.)
TV (we love our TV — right now we are binging The Bureau, which somebody here recommended)
Maybe a dip in the hot tub
In bed by 10:30 or so
Usually read my Kindle in bed for a while
Anonymous
Single no kids, hybrid office/WFH, morning workouter.
I have no discernible evening schedule but rarely finish work before 7:30 and if I do, it is usually because I am socializing with colleagues* over drinks/dinner starting 6:30 or 7. I always feed my dogs at some point but the rest of the evening might be consumed with grocery shopping, cooking dinner, meeting up with friends, going out solo, going to bed immediately, watching a lot of TV while online scrolling and texting/emailing about work and light chores, or doing 5 hours of chores. Tonight will be many hours of chores. Last night I was in bed at 7 without dinner.
*The HORROR. So many breached boundaries! We even know each other’s spouses and kids.
Anonymous
Hahaha, routine. I wish. I mean, I have one, it’s just not good. Most days it’s:
5-8: riding (the barn is a giant time suck. The actual riding is 30-45 minutes of this)
8-9: Dinner, shower
9-10:30/11ish-work (I don’t start until 9 because I am not a morning person. 9-5 won’t get me enough billables, unfortunately)
11-12: Duolingo, read, wordle unlimited, doomscroll
12ish-bed
Nesprin
I get home at 6-7, cook for an hour, eat, then watch TV/Knit/Read until I go to bed at 10.
I’m honestly shocked by the amount of stuff you all get up to in the pm.
Anonymous
We plan meals in advance and do some prep, so we do finish cooking, toss everything into the dishwasher, and either walk or hot tub or both, then TV and bed.
Anon
5pm: Arrive home from work, grab a snack (in lieu of dinner, typically), check in with spouse and kids, feed dogs. If I’m not going to workout sometimes have a beer
5:30-6:30: workout or walk dogs while spouse cooks for kids (the adults usually don’t eat dinner–we eat bigger meals throughout the day)
6:30: clean up kitchen or walk dogs if I worked out
7:00: multitask in living room with spouse (fold laundry, watch our shows, read the news, etc.)
8:00-8:30ish: start chasing kids into showers (they are older, so these are just verbal reminders), hang out with spouse
9:00-9:30: get kids to bed, set up coffee for next morning, tidy anything remaining in kitchen, start the dishwasher
10:00: usually lights out
This year we determined we would not program the kids for evening hours on a school night. It makes the weekends busier, but I have loved having a very short to-do list after work and plenty of hours in the evening for our various tasks at home. Kids have more time to relax as well. Sometimes I’m beat and I go to bed at 9, sometimes I obsessively binge a show until 11.
anon
What would you do? I have purchased and loved *many* pairs of Lake pajamas. I bought two sets of heart print ones for me and my baby to match. When they came, they were not the normal texture/feel that I have come to expect but, most of all, they had a really strong chemical smell. Not wanting my baby to be wearing them with such a strong scent, I returned them right away within the window and in the original packaging – including the adult set because the point was for us to match! (I once got a cheap onesie from Am @ z0n with a strong chemical scent I could not get rid of even after washing twice and I wasn’t willing to try that all over again with these more expensive PJs!) I got notification that only some of the items were refunded so reached out to the customer service team to ask what happened since it was all returned in one package. They said that the women’s set had a stain on the shorts and so it was unsellable and they would send it back to me. But the thing is… I *never* wore these. Like I opened them, was disappointed in the smell and feel (since I have so many pairs I love) and put them right back in the bags to return. So either they had the stain on them when I got them but I didn’t notice (it’s a faint yellow and the print is busy) or they were stained when they were processed by their returns department. Either way, I can’t understand why I should have to keep and pay for PJs I didn’t want that have now been stained. This is so bizarre; what do I do other than keep insisting I never wore them and don’t see how I could have stained them?
Cat
Time to get your credit card involved. Dispute.
Anon
I’d dispute it with your credit card and never shop from them again.
AIMS
I agree to involve your credit card if need be, but I would first call back and let them know that this is unacceptable, not your problem and that your next step is your CC and ask if they want to reconsider. I find this usually works and is easier.
Anon
+1
Anon
Can we talk regional accents? Do you think Kamala Harris has a California accent? My friend who moved from here (CA) to TX a decade ago now says things like y’all and bless your heart but swear
I’m the one with the accent!
I hear an accent in how Amy Klobuchar talks but I don’t hear it in Kamala.
She’s acting like I’m this guy :
https://youtu.be/JDRNaAxryu8
(This is all in good fun, BTW)
Anon
For reference, I’m a native Midwesterner who’s lived in California and Massachusetts and currently back in the Midwest. I don’t think there’s a California accent. I guess “valley girl” speak in the LA area, but that’s more of a behavior than an accent, I think. I would not say Kamala has an accent. There’s definitely a Minnesota accent and Amy Klobuchar has it, although not a terribly strong one.
Anonymous
CA doesn’t really have a regional accent the way the Midwest does. Maybe excessive usage of vocal fry and some word usage/syntax things, but that’s not an accent. As a native Californian I actually don’t think Harris sounds that Californian.
Anon
Agree. I grew up in MN and have spent most of my adult life in CA. I have no idea what a CA accent is, other than Valley girl, which is definitely not where she’s from or how she speaks. The only accent I sometimes pick up on her is the very occasional word that sounds slightly Minnesotan or Canadian, which I suspect is a remnant of her time there.
CB
I’m from California but have lived in Scotland for 10 years, so everything just sounds vaguely American to me. Although everyone laughs that my accent hasn’t softened much, and gets worse (and faster) when speaking with a Northern Californian colleague. My husband jokes he can’t understand us.
Anon
My husband says I turn into a total Valley Girl when I’m with my friends. (The Moon Unit variety)
Anonymous
Sadly, this topic/ thread likely isn’t going to stay “in good fun”—too many buttons to get pushed! Problem is, we use the word accent to connote that something sounds different from what we’re used to hearing. Which is why your friend says you have an accent; to her, you do.
This kind of difference can be a merely charming/neutral/positive thing, but people also disparage accents and use them to make assumptions about the class, education, viewpoints, or intelligence of the people who are speaking. And . . . that’s where the good fun drains out.
pugsnbourbon
My family is from rural southern Ohio. When my uncle went to college in Cleveland, people thought he was from Tennessee.
Anonymous
Omg Kamala has such a strong accent
Anon
She does? Can you think of something she says that sounds different to your ears?
I used to work in NY and the older generation had accents like Trump and Guliani (to my ears) but the younger generation pretty much didn’t.
I read something once about the Brooklyn accent dying out. The most notable example is Bugs Bunny. Apparently no one sounds like that any more.
anon
I’m in Philly and have read a few really interesting articles about our accent dying out, which makes me sad.
My parents are from 2 different neighborhoods (but only a few miles apart) and have very different Philly accents; ditto with my grandparents (though they were more spread out in the city). In addition to different city accents, our suburbs have their own accents too (mostly influenced by the fact that each part of the city had its own suburb it tended to move to when folks left the city). I have very strong opinions on what is the correct local accent and strong thoughts on Mare of Eastown (decent for someone not from here, but overall was not a Delco accent – her o’s were all wrong!)
Anon
I’m OP. I used to regularly travel to Harrisburg to work with state capitol regulators. That is a unique accent and yes, it’s all in the o’s.
Anon
I’m from Nj and could always tell my friend was prof from Philly because of how she said “water”.
Anon
LOL @ 4:17 I can hear “wooder” in my head.
Anon
In my mind: where is no O sound in water
BUT: not I. Philly apparently
Anonymous
Yes honestly 85% of her words
Anonymous
From an overseas perspective, I would say that she’s very pleasant to listen to, and has a distinct way of pronouncing vowels that I associate with the west coast, e.g. when she says “mask”. Whether that’s a regional accent or a sociolect or similar I don’t know, but I don’t think she speaks what I think of as the generic-person-on-TV accent when I hear it.
It’s not as easy to pick up as a Texan or Mid-West accent when you have English as a second language, but it’s there.
Anon
I’m a language nerd and love the variations in accents. I think they’re fascinating and such a fabulous mark of history. Our beach house is in a very isolated locale – the whole county is a peninsula that’s not on the way to anywhere and the locals joke the only way you end up there is if you get lost (or in our case, find cheap real estate with the gift of the internet ha) and it has SUCH a distinct accent because of its isolation. There are only a few older locals who really have it anymore, and it’s such a joy to hear. (Though my husband has to speak to the more country locals – I genuinely cannot understand them.)
I hate that accents are disappearing as tv and internet homogenizes us all. The younger kids in our beach town don’t have the accent. Baltimore has/had a really distinct accent and I only hear it on older folks. Another time, I once heard someone speaking and I simply had to ask where they were from, and it turns out they were from a town very close to where my grandparents were from in upstate NY – their vowels, the cadence, this person spoke exactly the same way as they did. And my hometown had a distinct accent within, say, a 2 hour-ish radius, but you rarely hear it anymore because most city natives have been displaced by transplants.
Sadly I’ve lived everywhere, and I work with the public, so while I do have a southern accent, it’s mild and much toned down to be “professional.” I went to a private school and I remember the teachers correcting the speech of my fellow students to make us all sound more cultured.
Seventh Sister
I grew up near Baltimore and my (Midwestern) parents used to yell at us for saying things in the local accent, because it wasn’t “nice.” This was the 1980s, so regional accents were probably a lot stronger than they are now in the US. While I don’t really register Californians as having a specific accent (lived in LA for a long time), I think that’s because so much TV is (or was) filmed in and around the LA area so the local’s speech just sounds “standard” compared to other regions. My vaguely Southern accent gets activated when I talk to people with similar accents, but I otherwise have a pretty public-radio-sounding-accent. I love regional American accents!
Former Southerner
The lack of distinctive regional accent is itself an accent. If you are an American in the UK, they are not going to say you do not have an accent. They are going to say you sound like an American. On top of that, the US also has distinct regional accents. If you are asking if I hear a distinct regional accent in Kamala, I do not. She speaks “standard” American English and usually in our prestige dialect. However, I have noticed that like many people with a foot in different worlds, she does some code-switching depending on her audience. She is a socio-linguist’s dream given her background and the years she spent in Quebec.
There is a”Black” American accent, although not all Black people in the US use it and most do not use it all the time. I have not really heard that in her voice but I know some people who say they have (and they are not being critical in saying that). But I am a Southerner who has carefully trained most of her accent out of her voice so I might not.
Anonymous
She talks like a senator.
Anonymous
Harris has some sort of accent to me, but I’ve never been able to figure out what it is. Maybe it’s Californian and I just don’t know many Californias? Klobachar definitely has a minnesotan accent, though it’s slight–listen to her say “down,” for example.
I am from Georgia and have been told I don’t have much of an accent (someone once told me I sound like I’m from nowhere–thanks?), EXCEPT if I’m talking to my parents, or a little drunk. Then you can tell. But I think being raised on TV (think about it, most actors don’t have regional accents) and living up North for a while removed most of my accent. My parents, on the other hand–one of my friends in college told me once “your dad seems nice, but I can’t understand a word he’s saying.” Then there’s my southern friend who married a Scottish guy–pretty sure their families just pretend they know what the other side is saying and really have no idea.
Anonymous
Going to college in Georgia from a middle state really messed with my accent. I spent most of my time for four years with very Southern-sounding people who wanted to sound Southern and I am susceptible to taking on accents so it rubbed off on me. Then I left and felt compelled to lose the accent because of the horrible prejudices against Southern people that I was subjected to in my early post-college years due to the accent. And now I am back in Georgia, but not around many people with Southern accents, and people think I sound articulate and English-speaking but like I am not from the U.S. I don’t hear any of it and now I am old (and my friend group is heavily foreign) so it’s not going to get fixed.
Anonymous
girl, i’m pretty sure everyone can hear the faux english accent if they make comments about it. i love it though, do you.
Anonymous
I don’t think it is that. It is more a “where are you from?” and I am pretty sure my English friends would call me out for a faux-English accent.
Anonymous
I would say Kamala’s sister, Maya Harris, has more of a California accent than Kamala does.
Anon
I don’t think I know what she sounds like. Will have to check out some videos.
BelleRose
I’m totally not in the political field, but I am so confused by the GOP censure of Cheney and Kinsinger. Can someone explain wtf is going on here? a) what does the censure accomplish and b) has the GOP really done enough gaslighting that they think people will accept the “legitimate political discourse” line?
R
The censure sends a clear signal to politicians that its fascism or else at this point and if you’re not down you are not getting support from the party.
Anon
Lobbyist here.
So the entity doing the censuring is the Republican National Committee, which is the GOP political arm that directs where campaign funds go, decides what this year’s key agenda will be, etc. It’s important to note that it was NOT Republicans in Congress censuring their colleagues. The RNC is made up of Republican officials from every state who are also not current politicians – they’re political insiders, activists, former elected officials. Censure by itself is nothing – it really is just a resolution expressing displeasure – though a Congressional censure carries more weight because it’s from the U.S. Congress. Censure is the proverbial slap on the wrist.
I haven’t read up on it, but I assume this censure means that Kinzinger and Cheney won’t receive RNC campaign funds, but Kinzinger’s already announced his retirement, so that doesn’t matter to him. And Cheney’s getting backing from traditional Republicans.
No, they don’t expect average Americans to believe it. They expect their base to believe it, and Republicans stay in power when their base turns out at the polls, and their base turns out at the polls when the party keeps them energized with exercises like this. “Heck yeah! They’re doing something about those traitors! We gotta make sure they do more!”
Anonymous
the last paragraph of this comment makes me contemplate how democrat politicians are doing the same, but dressed in blue. all politicians are scammers and corrupt seems to be the bottom line.
Anon
You have drunk way too much of the Trump Kool-Aid if you think both parties are doing the same things.
Anom
Amen to that.
Anon
All I know is that I’ll be blaming both parties when Trump is president again.
Bonnie Kate
Yes fun sneakers! Thanks to everyone here who encouraged me to order the pink AF1 Nikes a couple weeks ago – I’m very impatiently waiting for them to arrive tomorrow. I wish hitting the “track this shipment” button made them come faster because they would’ve been here yesterday! :D
Anonymous
What would be your comp expectations as a non equity partner or counsel [17 years out of school] at a regional firm that is decidedly NOT biglaw in any way; think – 5th largest firm in a fast growing southeastern state. The work/clients are all corporate – as in they don’t really take on individuals as clients; don’t have a department doing family law or personal real estate closings; they have the same departments you’d have in biglaw – corp, litigation, RE, bankruptcy etc. just dealing with smaller corporate clients. I have no idea what the ballpark comp is for this type of firm at my level [I have 10 years of biglaw experience + 7 years gov’t and would be coming in with no book as I’d be coming from gov’t – I do have contacts that differ from those that others at the firm have]. This is where some sort of published salary ranges would help; last year I interviewed for an inhouse job and ended up pulling out as it was a sizeable company that was making me an offer less than I make in the government. Granted I’m at a good salary for fed gov’t as I’m at an agency that isn’t tied to the GS scale but if I were to go back to private sector [which I want substantively], it has to be for more money as the hours/stress/travel will increase.
Cornellian
I don’t have anything directly on point buy my vague guess would be like 250 plus bonus. Does it have an eat what you kill aspect to it, or are you more or less staff?
Anonymous
I’d say $200 to $250, but likely no bonus opportunity in a non-equity role in my experience (or at least not a substantial one – more like a $5k bonus).
Cat
whatever it is I highly doubt it’s worth the increase in stress that comes with regional firm life…. do you LIKE business development?
Anonymous
OP here – I currently make 200k. So yeah 215k – not worth it. 250k+ – worth it to me financially. In terms of liking BD – I do like client service and miss it; I can’t see myself in government forever in large part because I miss client service even though I know the downsides of clients needing things all weekend etc. In terms of BD I obviously can’t say whether I’ll be successful at it – just because you have contacts doesn’t mean it materializes into business so it’s a risk but IDK what the alternative is – never even try something I may like better than my current job?
Jz
Wouldn’t government benefits greatly outweigh the bump in salary at 250k? Firm health benefits are $$$ especially for a partner
Anon
This is a good point for OP to consider. I have to pay both sides of my health insurance.
Anon
Yeah, 50k is only 25k after taxes, OP you’d barely notice a paycheck difference and I can’t imagine a world where the stress of a firm would be worth a micro difference in compensation, let alone the benefit differential.
Anonymous
I’m a salaried partner at a large southeastern regional firm and make 225ish plus bonus (which, let’s be clear, is nowhere near biglaw bonus territory. It’s a % of profit. Mine usually ends up being 10-15k)
Anonymous
Oh, and for another data point, my husband is a partner at a smaller local firm and makes 125 but a larger bonus because of how they handle profit-sharing (50-75k). So based on our dataset of 2, I’d say 175-250k ish.
Anonymous
I am at an eat-what-you-kill firm and my comp works out about the same with the possibility of making substantially more if I am mostly serving my own clients (currently about 50%) and they pay their bills (currently about 0%).
Anonymous
I’m a partner at a “not biglaw” but fairly large Midwest firm. Our non-equity partners take home 50% of what they collect. (Non-employees, so no salary, etc.) They pay 100% of any benefits they opt-in to – example, if they want health, vision and dental it would run about $800/month for single coverage. We estimate an annual ‘draw’ so they get a monthly bank deposit and have a quarterly check-in to make sure they are on track to at least cover their draw. Most of our non-equity partners have a draw between 80-100k/year, most of them bill about 50-100 hours/month, and most of them end up making about 100-150k/year before taxes.
Ellen
This system sounded complex, so I asked the manageing partner why we didn’t reward partners who are bigger rainmakers. He said we are like a family and we cover for each other. That is why we have a seniority system where we make more money as we get more seasoned. So while I am not a high earner, I will make up for it when I get older. I think this will work for me b/c I want to work less when I get older and make more money.
Anon
I am at about your experience level (in house now) but was at a small boutique firm on the west coast a few years ago (after 10+ years in govt) and made 250k plus bonus (about 300k) total. Since I was an income partner, I didn’t have to worry about paying for benefits. Overall I enjoyed it but BD was not for me, and since there was no way I’d make equity partner without bringing in business, I knew it wasn’t a good fit for me.
Anonymous
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I’m fortunate that I can wear sneakers to work (I’m on my feet all day), and looking for a couple of fun new pairs. Anyone know how supportive this brand is? Or recaps for other fun but also supportive sneaker brands?
(For reference, I need inserts with my Converse, but can wear my Vans and Taos all day without inserts).
Anony
I have a pair of Vejas that I scored off of ThredUp and I find them insanely uncomfortable to wear. They have zero support and kind of feel like walking around on boards (very stiff). They are super cool looking but I never reach for them. They would probably be better if I took the time to break them in… I’m bummed because I thought that I would love them and I just don’t!
Anonymous
Vejas are cute but not comfortable. I wore mine with Superfeet. Then I discovered the cushiness that is P448. I should probably get rid of my Vejas because I never wear them now.
Anon
How frequently can a lawyer switch jobs before getting painted as a job hopper? I’ve been thinking of switching jobs, which surprised my friend because I’ve been in the current position less than 2 years. Previous stints have averaged 3 years. Admittedly, I get bored easier than most but my resume shows upward progression.
Cornellian
I think it depends on what job you’re applying for. I think if you were moving to another law firm or for-profit in house, that might be ok. But if you were moving to, for example, a family office, ERISA plan, or state government, that would look a bit flighty to my eyes. But, also, EVERYONE is moving jobs right now so you’d probably get a pass on this one either way.
MND
what kind of lawyer jobs are you moving between? I’d be hesitant seeing someone who has had three 1-2 year stints in a row among the same type of job (like all firms or all in-house) without some explanation as to why they are looking again. The bar for explanation is pretty low and would include geographic relocation, reorganization within the organization, significant management move or change in direction.
I wouldn’t consider a 3 year stint a red flag, but if you’ve had lots of stints of 2-3 years it may be helpful to think through why you want to move and what you think the next job will have that your current doesn’t. And it’s also OK to realize that you like new challenges and moving frequently is a good thing for you.
AIMS
I don’t think this matters much anymore. A good friend job hopped from place to place without issue (NYC firms). Some places were barely a year. She was asked about it once at a job interview and got a job offer anyway. Have a friend who works for a competitive govt agency and his complaint about all his coworkers was that they were all transients, hopping for place to place to just check boxes on their resume.
I think this is outdated “conventional wisdom”
Anonymous
Unfortunately, I think this is very much in the eye of the beholder.
I was counseled by a recruiter that my resume reflects job-hopping because in my first years of practice I (1) spent 2 years at Firm A; (2) spent 14 months at Firm B, which is a notoriously toxic workplace where I was one of the first associates and stayed longer than most; (3) returned to job A for 3 years; and then (4) followed my practice group from Firm B to Firm C where I had been for 7 years at that time, meaning I had effectively kept the same job for 13 years with a one-year break. I was flabbergasted.
Anon
Unfortunately, I think this is very much in the eye of the beholder.
I was counseled by a recruiter that my resume reflects job-hopping because in my first years of practice I (1) spent 2 years at Firm A; (2) spent 14 months at Firm B, which is a notoriously toxic workplace where I was one of the first associates and stayed longer than most; (3) returned to job A for 3 years; and then (4) followed my practice group from Firm B to Firm C where I had been for 7 years at that time, meaning I had effectively kept the same job for 13 years with a one-year break. I was flabbergasted.
Anon
Also a hiring partner – would be a red flag for me unless there was a geographic move or move from or to government. I don’t want to be an associate’s third or fourth firm in the same city. I would think they would not be committed or else that they had been asked to leave their previous forms. I would also wonder how much actual experience they have.
Anon
Like Reeboks, I fear the leather would stretch and lose any support it might have had. They certainly are cute, though.
NancyDrew
What would you wear?
I have been working remotely in sweaters and leggings for 3 years so my style is all skewed! I am now on a 5th and final interview for a new role, and will be meeting the founder of the organization for an in-person interview in NYC later this week.
They’re a nonprofit but a fancy one that relies on big name corporate investors, and photos on their site (ie, headshots) show professional wear. But the founder does a lot of media and dresses in what appears to be lots of patterned blouses. So I’m thinking a suit jacket (I bought this one: https://factory.jcrew.com/p/womens/categories/clothing/blazers/original-schoolboy-blazer/AZ565?display=standard&fit=Classic&color_name=camel&colorProductCode=AZ565), skinny black pants, black boots, and a plain or striped fancy tee. But is that too casual?? I want to be professional but cool, and also true to myself — I am not a suit person, and besides, a suit feels like overkill for this climate. I’ve also gained covid weight and a lot of my favorite outfits don’t fit well.
Help!
Anon
What kind of role are you interviewing for? I’d go more formal than you’re suggesting for an interview. Blouse at a minimum, not a tshirt or boots. I’d go suit – if you’re doing fundraising or anything higher level you need to show you can look the part.
Anonymous
+1. Wear real trousers with your jacket, a blouse, and business appropriate shoes.
Anon
The t-shirt has to go; keep the boots if they are plain and not flashy.
Anonymous
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Anon
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