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My youngest is 22, still in school, and has chosen to cut off contact with her dad. We have been divorced for over a decade but there was some really awful stuff that went down during that time and her response then was to just put her head down and plow through, without processing any of it. And now she is at a point in her life where, as she puts it, she doesn’t have the energy to pretend like nothing happened and if she brings it up to him, he will deny it and try to gaslight. So, for now her solution is to not have any contact with him. He’s not the best at maintaining relationships with his kids, so it actually took him a year to notice that she was not answering his infrequent texts. My older kids have chosen minimal, superficial contact which lets him feel like World’s Greatest Dad. I don’t 100% agree with her decision but this relationship is theirs to manage and I stay out of it. I haven’t spoken to him since we separated.
The collateral damage in this is my 85 year old former mother in law, who is also being shut out and the reasoning isn’t as easy for me to understand. She’s a judgmental old biddy who you can only have the most surface relationship with, and she bears no small responsibility for my ex-husband being the person he is, but she’s also an old woman who doesn’t understand why her youngest grandchild isn’t in touch. She actually sent me a friend request yesterday, and when I mentioned it to my now-husband he said “oh yeah, I forgot to mention it but she sent me one the other day.” I haven’t spoken to her in 12 years and she’s certainly never met my husband so I’m certain she is attempting to get in touch and make sure the kid is ok. I’m sure she is worried there is a drug problem or jail or some terrible explanation. This doesn’t sit so well with me.
I’ve asked my daughter to re-think this as far as her grandma goes, but I’ve also been reminded that the most basic agency a person can have is deciding who is in their life. The kid hasn’t had things easy, she kept it together for a long time, and now she’s processing and making decisions about who gets her energy. But I also kind of want to remind her that family is like this sometimes (as relates to Grandma, not dad) and sometimes you do a kindness for the old people just because it’s the right thing to do and not because it brings you joy.
I told her that if she doesn’t reach out to her grandma, I’m going to message grandma (certainly not friend her) and ask if she needs anything and give her the opportunity to ask if her grandchild is ok. Just curious if anyone has thoughts on this situation.
I was your daughter. Stay out of it. Do not talk to grandma or invite any inquiries about your daughter.
+100000000000
+20000000000000000
I was your daughter. However, unlike you, my mom did NOT stay out of it and punished me for cutting off contact with my dad by cutting off contact with me (don’t ask me to explain it). Reading this is super touching. From her point of view, I wouldn’t mind if you talked to the grandma (if only because you’ve done so many other things right).
Congratulations to your daughter for cutting out people who are unkind. I let go of some family members completely, and it was one of the wisest decisions I ever made. My life is filled with good people who treat me well, and I can’t wait to spend more time with them when it is safe to do so. I would volunteer with strangers at a nursing home post-pandemic before I let toxic people back in my life, even if those toxic people are older.
My recommendation is to let your daughter decide who she communicates with, and what they know about her. Do not interfere. It also seems like you are creating a whole narrative out of some social media friend requests. Plenty of people just add whoever the algorithm recommends. Just delete the requests.
The kindest thing you can do for your daughter is to let her remain firmly no-contact. Contact with grandma will invite further contact attempts from dad and will make your daughter second-guess her decision. If she stays the course, after a while she won’t think of her dad very often. She will be free.
Wait, so you want your daughter to call her grandmother so her grandmother won’t assume she’s on drugs or in jail? So she won’t embarrass you? Why do you care about this old lady’s opinion? And why are your feelings more important than your daughter’s?
Wow, I didn’t say anything like that. F*ck off.
No, that’s exactly what you said. Don’t post here if you can’t stand it when people see you for what you are.
Here is what you said:
“I’m sure she is worried there is a drug problem or jail or some terrible explanation. This doesn’t sit so well with me.”
Thank you for the opportunity to clarify my imprecise language.
“The fact that an 85 year old woman is worried that something terrible may be wrong with her grandchild, because of the grandchild’s decision to cut contact with her father, doesn’t sit as well with me as does the original decision. I wonder if it is unfair that this old woman is being caused some distress because of another situation that she has no control over.”
For the record, I understood you the first time, PNW. Sorry you got this nasty comment.
Oh come on PNW. That’s completely uncalled for.
It’s really not. People post interesting, deep life issues here, and there’s always some dumb commenter who wants to find fault. And their comments are always so far out of left field, they’re not insightful or even interesting.
And a lot of people here are looking for validation, not advice, then get upset when folks don’t validate what they already want to do.
But that’s not at all what was happening here so…thanks for proving my point Anon at 4:09
Wow, that’s not how I read PNWs comment AT ALL. I totally read it as she doesn’t want the ex-MIL to be stressed worrying about her grandchild.
Are your other children in touch with their grandmother? Could they relay that their sister is fine to her rather than you?
I didn’t read it that way either. Maybe some are identifying with the daughter so closely that they aren’t able to view it more objectively?
I cut out my brother about 20 years ago. It was the right decision. I had no regrets whosoever at the time. But I won’t lie, it stings now that I’m older and can appreciate the impact on other relationships better.
I think there is a balance between keeping out folks who are toxic and keeping out relationships that disappointment you/aren’t fun but where it keeps someone else from feeling tremendous pain (perhaps the grandmother in this case is in the group). There is a difference between keeping crazy away (self-care) and demanding every relationship be about meeting your needs (self-ish).
In this situation, avoiding grandma appears to be about keeping the crazy away and not at all about insisting that every relationship meet the daughter’s own needs.
Please do not be nasty to one another. We are all trying to help each other here in the hive. I will not choose sides here, and neither should any of us be judgemeantal of one another. We are living through COVID raging in our midst, so this could explain the animousity. Please let’s try and get along and let’s try to releive the tension any way we can during this pandemic. That does NOT include bashing each other for our responses to a real life issue the OP has with her family. Otherwise we are no better then the people that invaded the Capital on January 6 which I saw on TV. That was terrible. FOOEY on those people!
This is exactly the type of comment and language policing that makes people think twice about asking for advice. This comments section regularly has people who are in emotional and stressful situations seeking advice on how to handle them. Zeroing in on word choice in one sentence and forcing that person into a position to defend herself rather than looking at the situation as a whole to understand the concern and provide advice is not helpful.
And on the other hand, you can’t expect strangers on the internet to know all of your back story and you can’t get mad at them when they go off the words you’ve given them.
Yeah, but you can read it with an eye that’s not geared toward finding flaws where none exist. It was reaching and rude.
Some of us have been in the daughter’s position and know how incredibly toxic it is for a mother to give her daughter an ultimatum like “if you don’t reach out to your grandmother then I will.”
I am in complete agreement on the perspective and the overall advice about how the daughter needs to be able have her own agency to make her own decisions and at age 22, her mother dos not need to be involved. I am talking about reading into this that PNW was just worried about herself and how own embarrassment not the daughter.
I agree with your daughter’s decisions, and I think you sound like you’re in denial.
I was your daughter and I’m now estranged from the father and you.
I think you’re taking a good approach. It’s a tough line to walk, and I think a gentle mention that, “Honey, I know you’re struggling with dad, but I think Grandma really misses you. If you feel comfortable after thinking it over, would you reach out to her now and then? She’s an old lady and family’s not always perfect.”
Have you ever had to go no contact with family? Your advice sounds like it’s coming from someone who fundamentally doesn’t understand.
Not that poster, but people are tricky and some things you can just slow-roll to infinity. Honestly, it is a really useful life skill, giving a crumb away here and there to pave a smooth path.
Smooth things out for whom though? OP? Grandma is fine; she hasn’t reached out for 12 years.
I wouldn’t reach out to an ex-DIL necessarily, but it’s an indirect reach to grandkid, which seems normal. Not sure I like a world where no one wants to throw a bone to an 85-year old grandma.
Grandma didn’t even actually ask about her though. It’s just a pile of assumptions. Let grandma reach out to granddaughter if she wants to, and let granddaughter make her own decisions. Mindreading and hinting and assumptions all make difficult family situations harder.
Grandma has not reached out to PNW in 12 years. It certainly sounds as if she has been in touch with her granddaughter much more recently.
I would not engage with grandma. If Dad is in contact with the other two kids, surely he would know if the third was in jail. Grandma can limit her nosiness to that avenue.
This is the most practical answer. If grandma just wants to know whether your daughter is ok, she can confirm it in this way and you have no role. If you wouldn’t have any contact with your ex-MIL otherwise, don’t initiate it now.
It’s grandma, not some random neighbor, so I don’t get the “nosey” label. Old people sometimes just have some things where they are are fuzzy — who is mad at who for what can be one of those, and then you miss your granddaughter b/c she is your granddaughter. Old people on FB may be even more lost-lonely-confused, especially in a pandemic where we are all estranged, some involuntarily and some more than others.
I think it’s best to be mad at the bad guy and make peace with the rest. I don’t think that grandma is a bad just lonely and reaching out as best as she can.
That’s a very generous read on grandma. It may be true, but OP also said that she contributed to Dad’s “being who he is.” At worst, she could be a supporter of abusive behavior, and getting in touch solely to pressure the daughter to get back in touch with Dad. That would be pretty standard enabling-mom behavior on her part….
Also, let’s please remember we are getting everything through PNW’s filter. She may be spot on, or she may be less accurate than she’s making it out to be. My own mother gaslighted me about my dad, something I didn’t realize until I was in my thirties. So take PNW’s depiction of these events with a BIG grain of salt.
I hear you, I really do, but your daughter is 22, not 12. I think she has ample brains, agency and life experience to make this decision, even if you don’t agree with it. So I would respect it. And that means not indulging Grandma’s curiosity. If you were my mom, and you did this, I would absolutely accuse you of protecting your ex (ex!) MIL’s feelings at the expense of my boundaries.
Yes, that’s a fair point. Thanks.
+1 million to your last sentence. I would feel so betrayed by my mother if she did this. Please let your daughter make her own choices.
If your daughter is intentionally shutting out grandma, I think that is her choice to make. In my family, growing up, there was a concept that relationships with grandparents, aunts, cousins, etc. only flowed through a parent. There was never really a direct communication between me or my sister and any extended family, even once we left the house, until I was maybe 25. My mother was shocked to learn that I had called.my grandparents myself just a few times before that and even later when one of my cousins came to visit me in my late 20s. As a result, I lost contact with my father’s family when I lost contact with him. That was a huge mistake that was eventually rectified but not before his mother died. I wish now that I had known her as an adult and known her through the eyes of her family and not just through my mother’s eyes. I realize that I should have figured this out on my own at some point, long before I did, but it was a very strong message in my house. If you think your daughter doesn’t understand she can have an independent relationship with her grandmother, you might want to talk to her about that. That is different, though, from her fearing that grandma will just be a conduit for her father.
This.
I agree that this is something to stay out of. If she thinks your daughter has a drug problem, who cares? If your other kids are not contact, cant they update grandma?
I would have either you or your daughter write a physical short note to grandma with a quick life update, signing it “love you lots.” And be done with it. No return address needed but you could provide one if she’s willing to receive a letter back. Doing the communication online invites back-and-forth.
You would tell the daughter in this situation to write her grandma an insincere card? I don’t think that’s a good idea at all.
Having been no-contact with a parent for more than two decades, I would advise keeping the boundaries firm. Little exceptions such as a letter invite further attempts at contact. I am also skeptical that the grandmother is reaching out to the mother and stepfather on her own initiative. She doesn’t even know the stepfather.
Except my mom just got on FB and is really just a person who randomly clicks on “people you might know” some days. And granny is decades older than my mom.
In that case, grandma is just randomly clicking and not really trying to hunt down the granddaughter.
Your daughter is only 22 and already setting boundaries. I’m really proud of her. She is going to make some mistakes along the way – I know I have. I really want to encourage you to just leave the grandma discussion alone for a bit. Your daughter sounds very mature. She may think about what you said about grandma and open the conversation again, or reach out to her herself. And if not, that is also her decision.
Stop it! Just stop! Your daughter is an adult, she gets to make this choice, and you need to stop meddling, certainly not share with grandma, don’t accept the friend request, and stop bugging your daughter about this!
Also, i really hope your daughter gets herself to therapy (no shame in that game from me–I’m in it right now and find it really helpful!). Sounds like she could use some outside support.
She has been for awhile now and she says it’s been very helpful. Helped her grades, too :)
My nieces and nephews are 18 and technically adults. They don’t make good decisions necessarily. Especially in their effed up birth family. Some kids throw out all of Dad’s side, but the better move is to realize that time is fleeting and not all Olds are toxic. And even in some families, we don’t have the same relationships with everyone. Grifting Aunt Kim? You don’t need to invite her over and let her play with your credit cards. Uncle Tim the Wise? You can trust him to tell you if B-school is a bad idea and know he won’t blab to your idiot stepmom who will scream that you just show up when you wan tuition paid.
I’d urge mom to tell kid: grandma is friending me, which I may just keep pending for a while, but what do you think about just sending her a little note in the mail to check in since it has been a while; you don’t have to give away anything secret — a store-bought card would be fine.
If I were the 22 year old daughter and my mom nagged me to out of the blue send my estranged grandma, who had not contacted me in over a decade, a physical card in the mail, I would be so mad. That is not the daughter’s burden at all. Plus OP has said she’s already asked the daughter to do something about this. If she keeps asking it’s not going to go well for her.
Idk why you’d assume a 22 year old is an idiot
Yeah, by the time I was 22 I was basically parenting my own parents.
Stop pressuring your kid or her father won’t be the only parent she cuts out of her life.
I understand the urge, but as someone who has gone no contact after an abusive childhood, I would not interfere. If grandma wants to ask your youngest’s siblings, maybe they’ll be interested.
I think you need to be your daughter’s ally here, and let your ex fend for his family. I don’t know your situation, but it’s possible that your ex is using his mom as a tool for his own purposes, as well.
I hadn’t thought of that, it was so surprising to see her pop up I didn’t think that it might be at someone else’s urging. Thanks for the perspective.
I really doubt that ex-MIL is actively seeking you out as a way to get to your daughter. Either ex-H is putting her up to it or she’s just clicking on “people you may know.” Either way, I would just ignore the request.
This post resonates with me a lot. I have a niece in her mid-20’s that is getting married this year. My brother, her biological father, failed her in many ways. She was raised by her mother and stepfather. As her “other” side of the family, we never had a close relationship with her as a child. But I reconnected with her as adult and have forged my own relationship with her. My parents, her grandparents, are not included in the wedding and my father asked me to step in and ask my niece to include them. They have not reached out to her in 19 years! I find my parents behavior disgusting. I’m sorry they are hurt but it’s their own doing. I would never consider asking my niece to include them in her wedding.
Long story short, let your daughter find her own way with her grandma. It’s her choice and it deserves to be respected. No one says it’s forever. But if it is, it is.
Thank you for standing up for your niece, even to your own parents.
I’ve had a fraught relationship with my grandparents because they are judgmental old biddies as well. 3/4 are still alive and I lost the 4th one this spring while I was 36 weeks pregnant and obviously there’s a pandemic going on.
I never expected to feel so much remorse for not only not being able to say goodbye and attend the funeral, but also for all the years I lost with that grandmother because I couldn’t accept her for who she was just like she couldn’t accept me for who I am.
After that I have tried to be better about calling my grandparents periodically and sending photos of their great grandson.
It’s hard though. I still have a lot of resentment for things that have been said and done over the years. I approach it with guarded optimism.
It’s incredibly difficult to try to mend those relationships after years of built up baggage, and I think your daughter is old enough to decide who is in her life. But you also get to gently guide her and make suggestions as a parent.
This. So much this.
You should stay out of it. Keep supporting you daughter in her right to choose her own boundaries, don’t do something that erodes her trust in you.
And one thing to consider. Your daughter has probably thought very hard about the Grandma issue already. In a global pandemic where old people has been at increased risk for the last year, there is no way your daughter has not already considered that: 1) Grandma may catch covid 2) Grandma may be at increased risk of dying from covid. 3) Grandma may die during this pandemic.
Even so, your daughter has made an informed choice not to have Grandma in her life in any form. Why should she change her mind over Grandma contacting you? Why would that be the “right thing to do”?
Supporting your daughters choice and agency is the right thing to do.
My reply comes from the place of being estranged from my father, and by association, his entire side of the family. No contact for about 11 years, starting from around the age of your daughter. If things were simple, I would like to see her again before she dies, because she was always very kind -to me-. But things are not simple – seeing my grandmother would be like opening the door to my father, in that I’m sure he would hear about the meeting, find ways to interject himself, learn details about me from the meeting. That or I would have to withhold all information about myself, which would make the meeting unsatisfying. Unfortunately, my father, through his actions, made his entire side of the family inaccessible to me because potential interactions are just fraught with risk. Sometimes the only way to protect yourself from a toxic parent is to flood the moat around the castle, if you will. Best wishes to your daughter – hope she finds strength and fills the void her father created with something positive.
This is a good perspective, thank you.
“But I also kind of want to remind her that family is like this sometimes (as relates to Grandma, not dad) and sometimes you do a kindness for the old people just because it’s the right thing to do and not because it brings you joy.”
So, different people have different opinions about what the “right” thing to do is. There is not an objective right thing to do in a situation like this.
My parents both profoundly failed me and it fundamentally changed my idea of what family is and what exactly I owe them. Just because someone is old or a family member doesn’t mean they deserve anything in particular. I have cut out my elderly father, who is in poor health, because of how he treated me for many years. When people have spent their life treating family members like garbage, I find it really difficult to have compassion when they have to face the consequences of their own behavior. Act like a judgmental old biddy, get treated like one. If she wanted a good healthy relationship with your daughter, she could have acted like it any time during the past 22 years. You need to back off unless you want to get cut out too. It’s possible your ex MIL will drop dead and your daughter will regret it, and it’s unfortunate that you can’t protect your daughter from that regret or disappointment. Or it’s possible that she’ll die and your daughter will feel a quiet sense of relief or nothing at all. But either way, she’s an adult, and you need to respect her boundaries.
Wow, you really waded into the lion’s den then. Sorry that happened to you. I commented once about my teen son still being my “baby” (it was a throwaway remark) and got some hostile comments about how I was ruining him for his future partner. It was kind of gross to think of these 20-30s women thinking about a 13 year old as somehow their property, but aside from that, it had nothing to do with what I was posting about.
Now for the real advice – let your daughter decide who gets to be in her life and who doesn’t. Don’t update other people about what’s going on with her. That’s her decision. And don’t assume that just because someone is old even 85 years old, that they are not a monster and deserve more consideration than someone who is younger. I would not accept her friend request, I would not feel sorry for her, and I would stay out of it. You owe your daughter your loyalty here. You owe ex-MIL exactly nothing.
Also I would like to remind anyone currently getting divorced from a POS that this is an example of what we say a lot around here – your kids will eventually figure out who the bad guy is, as OP’s daughter did with her father. I haven’t been through it myself, but my sister is there now and it’s so hard.
Soooooooo you agree with all of us?
Yes, overall, I agree with almost everything except being a total a-hole to OP.
People were not! There are 66 comments one was a smidge rude
I appreciate your last sentence up there. Thanks.
I once asked for advice on this board anonymously for a tricky family situation about distant relatives. The responses were incredibly mean and made me feel like a dreadful person for trying to reach out to someone. It must be nice to assume the worst of complete strangers all the time and do everything right in your own life.
Speaking from someone watching their partner process and detach from an emotionally abusive childhood as an adult: Stay out of this. Support your daughter processing her childhood; if she is not in therapy, normalize it and offer to help her find a therapist if she is interested and help pay for it if you are able and she can’t find someone good covered by insurance. Assume that there is stuff that you don’t know about her relationship with and feelings about her dad and her grandma. She may change these boundaries over time but that’s for her to decide, not you. And please re-examine your belief that sometimes families are just like this and your daughter should get over her boundary and be nice to an old person — is that really the lesson you want to teach her?
This may be a shot in the dark, but anyone have a recommendation for macarons in the greater Hartford area of CT? Want to send some to my best friend for V-day.
Not CT, but Laduree deliveres (either on goldbelly or thru their own s*te).
Avert is a French restaurant in West Hartford that might have them. Avert’s coffee shop style sister Doro Marketplace also has them and you can likely get delivery on their websites through an Uber Eats like app. I hear that Taste by Spellbound and Elmwood Pastry Shop have them but I haven’t tried them. Unfortunately, the cute little French bakery in town closed a few years ago and it’s left a giant hole in the market. Good luck!
A slip dress is an actual dress, meant to be worn out of the house. This is not a slip dress. It is a nightgown.
The designer’s website has an item called a slip, but this one is called a slip dress. Is someone going to wear this outside?!
It’s the title of this post that calls it a “slip dress.” The body of the post calls it “lingerie” and a “chemise for night,” which means it is a nightgown and not a dress. I think it’s an error in the headline. Although some people would have worn this as a dress back in the 1990s.
The post is using the actual name of the dress, from the designer’s actual website.
It’s very Cher Horowiz
I def wore stuff like this as”tunic” over flared hip huggers with chunky Steve Madden sandals in like 2001.
Oh god. With a wide woven metallic belt and jeans which could have required a bikini wax.
But I went with platform (or kitten heel! I had both!) flip flops.
Shrug sweater if it was cold.
OMG yes. I had several sort of…crochet shrugs?
I used to knit shrugs for myself and friends – I shudder now. They looked terrible on everyone. But we all loved them at the time!
To be fair, this is the brand’s naming fault, not the blog’s (they always use the product name in the header). It’s called – correctly – a chemise in the description.
Agreed, though.
Also I now have “Who says??” “Calvin Klein…” in my head :)
bah ha ha ha ha! I’d forgotten about that but perfect reference here.
I thought of the episode of Friends where Rachel has to wear a slinky nightie out to dinner with her bf’s parents. Or SJP’s “naked dress” from SATC.
Yes, the writer of this post knows that, she picked it “for night”
Agreed. Anonymous commenting leads to people on their worst behavior around here.
Wow, thank god the commenters are here to tell me this otherwise I would have never been able to figure it out on my own.
I live in the SEUS now, but used to take the PATH train to Christopher Street in the Dinkins era. New city is in Renaming Things mode (in a thoughtful way, not a San Francisco way). I cannot say how many times I see “Stonewall” though and my first next thought word is always “riot” and not “Jackson.”
Same!
Now there’s a compromise–just change half the name!
Real Q: when are you supposed to wear bodysuits like this? https://noellewolf.com/collections/bodysuits
They’re gorgeous but seem like they’d get in the way for gardening times and not be supportive enough to be a bralette alternative (plus, you’d have to get naked to pee)
Gardening, if you’re into lots and lots of foreplay.
I mean, part of the fun is taking it off.
But they also have snaps at the cr*tch. I might wear one under a low-cut or backless sweater on a date night. I also wear jumpsuits all the times so I’m used to being nude in bathrooms.
Those are gorgeous but not something I would wear in real life (and TBH not in my fantasy life either)! My PJs are mostly Old Navy flannel pants and thermal LS tees with an LL Bean fleece robe on top.
I think most body suits have the nappy bottoms. Not sure if these do but that’s a requirement for me.
As a perky B+, this would be plenty of support. But I’ve never really done fancy lingerie.
A few years ago women wore lacy bodysuits like that with jeans and a blazer in my city. It works if you have small or fake boobs, which are very common here.
I have one I wear with a jumpsuit that’s slightly to open for comfort at the side boob area. I do wear a bra underneath it, though (necessary when quite a bit futher in the alphabet than B), and the body suit covers the bra as well.
You can always pull aside to pee. Like you would a swimsuit.
I don’t get the question–these are obviously lingerie for gardening.
I am having this almost escapist urge to shop now. It’s like if I could clothe myself into a leave-the-house-have-a-job-and-do-it-well life, it would happen. Instead, it’s struggle of distractions while proctoring zoom school-tech needs-lunch-dinner-homework while trying to pretend BigLaw gets what I’m going through.
Clothes though. They are giving me hope now, almost sustaining me.
[Clothes are comfy SF Bay Therapist clothes, like Eileen Fisher but with a bit more grit and weight; no typical East Coast workwear; also some very pretty dresses that are in no way workwear but just make me happy.]
Oof right there with you. I have a job interview Thursday (yay!) and I may have ordered way too many clothes from Thredup yesterday in anticipation. No, the clothes aren’t for the interview; the clothes are for the job. Yes, it’s WFH. What do you mean I don’t need new clothes to WFH?
Love this! Of course you need new clothes!
I’m having a similar urge, maybe because I’m stuck in a winter hellscape – all I want to do is get some new, pretty outfits for spring. I actually do need new clothes since I’m six months pregnant but I hate buying maternity wear since it seems like such a waste for something I’ll only wear for a few months. Meanwhile, I’m sad-scrolling through all my favorite retailers just ogling the goods.
BIG same (minus the pregnancy; congratulations!). I ordered shorts last week … I do need new shorts but I don’t exactly need them this minute.
I gave birth a year ago and haven’t been back to the office yet. Baby weight has not entirely come off. So here’s the dilemma: we won’t be back at the office “for a while,” so do I wait to buy clothes then?
Plus side of waiting: maybe my old clothes will fit by then. Maybe I will always be partially work from home and can make my few new and older looser items work for a long time. It just feels foolish to buy lovely skirts and blouses when my company literally will not allow me to set foot inside the building.
Downside of waiting: work clothes are so freakin cheap right now. Shouldn’t I be raiding every single sale right now, rather than buying things for twice the price six months from now?
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2021/03/ultra-fast-fashion-is-eating-the-world/617794/
So funny, but I was pretend shopping at Amour Vert, so pretty slow fashion. But ironic: if only I shop more (but for the right things this time, in my current size), I will be finally, FINALLY done with shopping (and happy with what I have).
This is what I hate: the B- items, the maybe-going-to-fit-if-I-ever-go-back-to-the-gym things, the life I used to had things. I need a rental capsule wardrobe at all times, because I keep getting recast in the sort of life I am living and only have clothes from my past lives and some there were only aspirational (faux fur jacket that is warm, but is an open jacket, so not great for dog walking and also has no pockets but looks smashing with a fancy party dress in the winter).
The wardobe is dead. Long live the wardrobe!
My husband wanted to buy himself something the other day and said, “hey we have that $300 refund just sitting in paypal, I can use that”… um, the refund was in like, September? I’ve spent that several times over since then on makeup and skincare, and I’m going nowhere. I guess I just want to look good on zoom.
any recommendations for 3/4 sleeve washable tops to wear under business casual/casual black blazers? I don’t need to go into an office right now but I want to feel a little sharp and put together once in a while.
Hmm, I have a couple knit tops from Target that fit the bill, but it doesn’t look like they’re carrying any right now.
There’s this top, which might not work under a blazer but is quite pretty: https://www.target.com/p/women-s-3-4-sleeve-voile-top-a-new-day/-/A-81455746?preselect=81249840#lnk=sametab
Has everyone seen the zoom with the lawyer who couldn’t turn the ‘cat’ filter off? Worth checking out if you need a giggle. https://abovethelaw.com/2021/02/im-not-a-cat-the-best-zoom-court-mishap-yet/
It’s purrrfection
Oh man, my boss is going to weep tears of mirth. Thanks.
I am dying. This is great, thank you for sharing.
My favorite response on twitter is that it’s suspicious he’s so adamant that he’s not a cat! Sounds like something a cat pretending to be a lawyer would say . . .
Before Zoom, on the internet nobody knew you were a dog.
“I’m willing to go forward, Your Honor…”
I know! And the words were coming out of the kitten’s mouth!
OP, thanks so much for sharing, this is making everyone in my office crack up.
Comedy gold, man.
Can you even imagine going forward and having to keep a straight face as a cat made the argument?! I have tears rolling down just considering it. Thanks OP for sharing, this will keep me laughing for days!
Thank you for this <3
So great! Just what the world needs today!
“I’m here live. I’m not a cat.”
Peak zoom. I’m dying laughing.
The Reddit comments sections is gold.
https://www.reddit.com/r/youseeingthisshit/comments/lgamp0/a_lawyer_using_zoom_had_to_let_a_judge_know_that/